Possible to use ROMs/kernels/recoveries from 128 model on 512 one? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I don't have the Note9 nor do I plan to buy it (will get the Note10 instead) but I'm just curious: can ROMs, kernels, recoveries and mods made for the 128GB ROM, 6GB RAM version be used with no issues on the 512GB ROM, 8GB RAM version? From what I know the hardware is the same, except the RAM and the storage chips so there should be no problems? I'm asking 'cuz it'll be the same deal with the Note10 from what it seems.

Shouldnt make any difference as the firmware is the same

force70 said:
Shouldnt make any difference as the firmware is the same
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Mlm

koragg97 said:
I don't have the Note9 nor do I plan to buy it (will get the Note10 instead) but I'm just curious: can ROMs, kernels, recoveries and mods made for the 128GB ROM, 6GB RAM version be used with no issues on the 512GB ROM, 8GB RAM version? From what I know the hardware is the same, except the RAM and the storage chips so there should be no problems? I'm asking 'cuz it'll be the same deal with the Note10 from what it seems.
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Yes it should be working

Cool, now that's left is to get that $$$ for the 512 model If not, 128 + 256 SD ain't bad too

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Galaxy Note8 Storage Options - 256GB

Do we know when the 128GB or if Samsung would grace the rest of the world; the 256GB option? Im surprised that no outlet has records for the 128GB or is it coming after launch since I only see 64GB versions available for preorder 'globally'.
I've been trying to find a 128gb version as well.... But no luck.
So right now im holding out ordering and waiting to see if the 128gb is releasing soon some where in the world.
North America never gets anything but the lower option - 64gb. Which is enough for now especially adding in the 256gb micro SD. That being said, I personally would love to have 128gb option and would pay $100 more for the extra storage. Just like I would also pay $100 for a BL unlocked (Dev version) of the Note 8. Don't think they have offered a Dev version of the Note since the Note 4, of which I bought the Dev version of that phone.
The versions with more storage, more ram, etc are usually very rare and only release in the asian markets. Not sure why they do that as there would be buyers elsewhere in the world. Head scratching.
Yeah Im in the USA however I couldnt care less where the device is coming from.. I preordered a 64x from clove.. but like you wanted the 128 at least (which is in my s6e...) so im taken aback how the internal storage options are still paltry. Yes the card.. but its not UFS2.1 speed so i dunno what gives.
sidenote, the note 8 has a ufs card reader which is up to 3x faster than usdxc.. slight mitigation.. if you can find cards.
I doubt a 128 much less a 256 version will appear—it's a classic Samsung tune, with every model since Note 2 they've been promising a “Luxury” of whatever version of the same model, always with double the storage.
I've waited for a couple of those before—they've never materialized…
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shadym1lkman said:
sidenote, the note 8 has a ufs card reader which is up to 3x faster than usdxc.. slight mitigation.. if you can find cards.
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I am sure if they exist they would be very expensive
not a peep about then since last summer either, so it's surprising to find that they've included the reader.. some expectation then of release. but.. bixby, so who really knows.
teegunn said:
North America never gets anything but the lower option - 64gb. Which is enough for now especially adding in the 256gb micro SD. That being said, I personally would love to have 128gb option and would pay $100 more for the extra storage. Just like I would also pay $100 for a BL unlocked (Dev version) of the Note 8. Don't think they have offered a Dev version of the Note since the Note 4, of which I bought the Dev version of that phone.
The versions with more storage, more ram, etc are usually very rare and only release in the asian markets. Not sure why they do that as there would be buyers elsewhere in the world. Head scratching.
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Just buy exynos if you want an unlocked bootloader .
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Only in korea.
Better buy SD Card a fast one that has fast reading speed sandiak 200 gb or samsung evo 128 gb.
With 200 gb sd card (180 gb actual space) + 64 gb storage (52 gb actual space) =
232 GB Of total storage.
Which is just as much as 256 gb samsung phone.
Cause 256 gb samsung phones have 235 storage due to software.
Cool Person said:
Only in North korea.
Better buy SD Card a fast one that has fast reading speed sandiak 200 gb or samsung evo 128 gb.
With 200 gb sd card + 64 gb storage =
232 GB Of total storage.
Which is just as much as 256 gb samsung phone.
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Lexar 1800x 128gb is the fastest ive ever seen by a country mile..
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force70 said:
Lexar 1800x 128gb is the fastest ive ever seen by a country mile..
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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I heard bad things about lexar despite its read and write speed being really high. I heard it gets corrupted easily for some customers no thing solid thought...
But who knows..
I still have the evo 256gb that I got free with the note 7. Works like a champ. I also tried to find this ufs card but no luck.
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Cool Person said:
I heard bad things about lexar despite its read and write speed being really high. I heard it gets corrupted easily for some customers no thing solid thought...
But who knows..
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Ive had mine for a year and zero issues
You can get it here
http://www.ebayshopkorea.com/main/view?itemID=332346076771
$1370, that's a little steep, $440 more than standard version.
force70 said:
Ive had mine for a year and zero issues
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I am buying 256 gb one then hope it doesnot run out.
Its price is really low and its fast sd card.
Apparently a 128gb version is expected to be launched in India. But i haven't been able to confirm that....
Tho a lot of sites selling phones with india as target audience is listing the 128gb version
In mexico the major carrier telcel only offers the 128 gb option

6GB vs. 8GB Performance?

As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
nizmoz said:
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
djinn415 said:
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
Virgo_Guy said:
For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?

512GB vs 128 GB real life comparison

As the title states does anyone have both versions and can say it's justifiable to pay the extra 300? I don't car for the space but the extra 2 gigs of RAM could be nice. Please advise.
nique0201 said:
As the title states does anyone have both versions and can say it's justifiable to pay the extra 300? I don't car for the space but the extra 2 gigs of RAM could be nice. Please advise.
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Are you going to be using more than 24 apps simultaneously? Because the Note8 could hold about that many in memory with 6GB of RAM.
Are you going to keep it for 2 years or more? If so, I suggest the 8GB for future-proofing. If not, 6GB makes more sense.
Just my two cents.
Since I heard this could be the last Note, I went with the 512/8. I may keep it a long time if they stop making the Note line. I use the stylus everyday at my job and I don't want to give that up anytime soon.
i got 512/8 gb model just in case this is the last note ever
I went with the 512gb because I can... No other reason. I will ditch it when the Note 10 comes out or the F.
The best use of the RAM would be for Dex, which I don't use. 128GB plus my 256GB SD card = more storage than I will ever come close to using. I could have easily afforded the 512, but I don't need a terabyte phone and I never came close to filling my Note 8 so it was a no brainer to me.
It depend on your need: heavy multitasking is your priority, for working and 300$ not too much with you then go 512GB
got the 512 blue version, just because i wanted to treat myself, and some futureproofing too
I think one important point people are missing is that the 512GB version allows you to use dual SIMs without worrying about running out of storage. My big problem with the Note 8 was that I could either put in two SIMs and live with the 64GB internal storage limitation, or give up on using two SIM cards and plug in a memory card instead. I ended up doing the latter. But with the 512GB Note 9, you don't have to compromise.
Maybe in the US, consumers are used to the idea of using only one SIM, but here in India dual SIMs are a common sight. And some phone brands offer two SIM slots PLUS a memory slot. Samsung, however, has opted for that rather limiting "hybrid SIM slot".
Got the 512/8 for future proofing and in the event that it is the last Note.
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I think one important point people are missing is that the 512GB version allows you to use dual SIMs without worrying about running out of storage. My big problem with the Note 8 was that I could either put in two SIMs and live with the 64GB internal storage limitation, or give up on using two SIM cards and plug in a memory card instead. I ended up doing the latter. But with the 512GB Note 9, you don't have to compromise.
Maybe in the US, consumers are used to the idea of using only one SIM, but here in India dual SIMs are a common sight. And some phone brands offer two SIM slots PLUS a memory slot. Samsung, however, has opted for that rather limiting "hybrid SIM slot".
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There is a simple workaround for your problem just check YouTube or xda....
calinormy said:
There is a simple workaround for your problem just check YouTube or xda....
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If you're speaking of modding you SD Card to work around the hybrid/SIM dilemma,Samsung recently pushed an update to the S9/S9+ that prevents that from working.
My guess this is in effect for the Note 9 out of the box.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/dual-sim-card-sd-card-problem-t3809073
I didn't know that, my apologies
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I didn't know that, my apologies
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No apologies necessary.
It wasn't exactly common knowledge, unless one followed the subject on a regular basis, especially if one didn't own an S9.
I myself just found out days ago, assuming it'd work, since I used one of those slim SIM adapters on my dual SIM Honor View 10.
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Does anyone know how much storage is left over on the 128GB version? You know, out of the box.
roaduardo said:
Does anyone know how much storage is left over on the 128GB version? You know, out of the box.
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I'm willing to bet the same apps come preinstalled on the 512 so either could answer the question and you could just apply the math to the other one.
I got the 128 because wife wouldn't let me.
I got my Note 9 on pre-order.
The promotion Samsung ran here in Oz was if you pre-ordered the Note 9 you got the 512gb for the price of the 128gb...
Pretty much a no-brainer for me...
ultramag69 said:
I got my Note 9 on pre-order.
The promotion Samsung ran here in Oz was if you pre-ordered the Note 9 you got the 512gb for the price of the 128gb...
Pretty much a no-brainer for me...
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No wonder there's a shortage!
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No wonder there's a shortage!
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Oz has the Exynos processor, in the US its the Snadragon...
Shouldn't affect stock over there..
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Oz has the Exynos processor, in the US its the Snadragon...
Shouldn't affect stock over there..
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Oh, so only the Snapdragon is backordered? I wasn't aware. Interesting!

P30 Pro 6GB vs 8GB

Anyone has experience in performance differences between 6GB and 8GB model?
By quick glancing it looks like only difference is amount of memory or is there something else? Device will be used for photo and social apps only. No gaming of any kind.
Thanks
Same otherwise. For your use, probably wouldn't notice any difference.
The 128gb version also has 8gb ram, not only 256gb
xAD3r1ty said:
The 128gb version also has 8gb ram, not only 256gb
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Some 128GB models only have 6GB RAM. All 256/512GB models have 8GB RAM.
jacobtf said:
Some 128GB models only have 6GB RAM. All 256/512GB models have 8GB RAM.
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Ok didn't know, mine has 8
Didn't know they made 8gb / 128gb variants. As far as it's listed here, there's only 6/128 , 8/256 & 8/512
As for the difference, honestly from 6- 8 there will be no noticeable difference during regular usage. It's not like Emui allows all the apps to keep running in the background. Power management is quite aggresive and probably will need to remove powergenie to fully utilize it.
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Didn't know they made 8gb / 128gb variants. As far as it's listed here, there's only 6/128 , 8/256 & 8/512
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I have a UK device. VOG-L09, 8GB RAM and 128GB storage.

Question Any difference between S8 Ultra 12GB version and the 16GB version?

Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
I doubt if there is any difference in performance at all. I have the 512 GB version because I like to keep 400 GB of local FLAC format music on my devices, and I don't always want to fool with a MicroSD card. Does any single Android game really use more than 12GB of RAM? I think it simply comes down to the size of apps and how many you will be installing, which will reasonably translate to needing much more RAM for more multitasking if you use a lot of apps at the same time.
issue5854 said:
Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
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You won't notice any difference.
Not even a single game (native or emulation) uses that amount of RAM.
A few of the most demanding games (direct PC ports) Grid Autosport or Alien Isolation barely use 3-4GB on Average.
Even if you multitask, A LOT, 12Gb will cover you good.
Btw, I got the 8Gb version, and I do heavy stuff on it, still running smooth, no issues with apps being closed in the background, etc...
Just a fair warning, S8 TAB series lineup has a really bad cooling solution, so thermal throttling is heavy, just in case if you planned doing some "heavy" gaming.
thanks @roirraW "edor" ehT & @ekin_strops for this feedback
I found a way and ordered the 16GB version, so I'll be using it, and see how it goes.

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