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Root AT&T Moto X on 4.4.2?

I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?

vinuneuro said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
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unless an exploit comes out in the future (but i think everybody is pessimistic about this), the locked versions can't downgrade and can't root 4.4.2.
so you need either an unlocked version, or a locked version pre-4.4.2

And no....don't downgrade. You could easily brick your phone.

Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........

virtuewill said:
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
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Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol

kj2112 said:
Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.

Wait....what exact one did you buy????

kj2112 said:
Wait....what exact one did you buy????
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Moto X for AT&T
Memory - 32 GB
Back - Woven Black
Front - black
Accent - Metallic Black
Estimated Delivery May 5, 2014
$99 for 2 year contract. **** I could've just bought a used dev moto from ebay

virtuewill said:
There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.

kj2112 said:
Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.

virtuewill said:
Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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The Moto x definitely doesn't need to be rooted, but you may regret it later if you can't.
Good luck with whatever you do.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.
I wasn't planning on rooting this phone either, but then I came across Gravity Box. Sell the phone new and get an unlocked one.

virtuewill said:
Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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No one is really in the market for a moto x unless you sell it for dirt cheap. You don't really need to root this device it's great without but even better with root. You can disable the camera shutter sound from the camera menu. Es file explorer is a great alternative? But if you want return it and get the T-Mobile version its unlocked. This phone has been really great.
MOTO X

Why are all pessimistic that manage to get root on a closed bootloader version from AT & T?
Why do these companies do not sell at least an opportunity to get open bootloader? What do they lose?
I miss perekllyuchatelya regimes in 2G, 3G, and other other joys ...

I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?

DocMCSE said:
I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
You can pay a small fee and get your AT&T X unlocked to use on other GSM carriers....AT&T also might provide you with the code if you meet certain criteria. Bootloader unlock is another story. AT&T forbids Motorola from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones. Currently the ONLY possibility for unlocking the bootloader on an AT&T X is through the China Middleman.
Apologizes if any (or all) of this is redundant.

samwathegreat said:
Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
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Thanks, I pretty much figured in this day and age that the SIM could be unlocked or I'd have bought the unlocked one to start with. What bothers me most is I do not use/abuse root on any of the devices I own and am only interested in doing so on my X to run the Titanium Backup app I purchased to run on my older phone. I guess I knew back then the app needed root to run but since that used to never be an issue due to the collective experience I have at my fingertips here at XDA-Developers.com. it never dawned on my that a day would come where root would be taken away from me never to be returned.

Thinking of switching to Republic Wirelss -- advice?

i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!

d0g said:
i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!
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1. Not sure about Kit Kat, Jellybean could be rooted
2. No, well you can but you will loose the ability to call and text
3. Personally I am happy with the service
4. It does now
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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.

kj2112 said:
You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.
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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition

krsmit0 said:
republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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I know, it would have to be bought elsewhere.
Otherwise, good chance RW 4.4.2 phones will never be rooted.
Unless you luck out and can get a code from the Chinese seller.

krsmit0 said:
republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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The phone can be unlocked if you BUY the unlock code. Mine personally is unlocked from the first go around.
To answer your questions:
1) If you order the phone and receive it running 4.2.2, then yes, you can root the phone, then safestrap and upgrade to 4.4.2 using the guide in the General section. If you receive the phone running 4.4.2 then your only hope is to unlock your bootloader via the China middleman.
2)There are no custom ROMs that support the custom software that RW bakes into their ROM to make their services work. If your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash all you want, just won't work as a cellphone.
3)I love the Moto X and RW service. Sprint is not always the best, but I get coverage most everywhere I travel, plus I get WiFi in most everywhere I go.
4)For now, new phones bought directly from RW should still come running 4.2.2 until their stock runs out. Don't know what a new phone from Motomaker would come with. Their KK ROM is generally debloated aside from all of Googles apps and HPs Printer plugin.

Thanks for the info ...
Does anyone know ...
1. if I buy a Moto X straight from motomaker, or used on craigslist ... can I flash it with the Republic ROM?
2. If I buy a Republic moto ... can I later flash it to use with a Simple Mobile SIM card?
thanks

You won't be flashing anything that requires a custom recovery if you get either with 4.4.2 installed, cause you won't have root. Or an unlocked bootloader. Unless you get lucky and the unlock codes are still available for 45 dollars and your phone is in his list.
That's what I was trying to say previously.

OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?

d0g said:
OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?
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You can't unlock motomakers either tho.
Unless you're talking about getting the dev edition.

Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?

d0g said:
Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?
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Any nexus 5 can be rooted. Just unlock bootloader and you're off.

That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...

d0g said:
That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...
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You may need to confirm with a google search, but yes.
There's only one north american model of the n5, and it works on most any carrier, except Verizon apparently.
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I would google "nexus 5 [carrier name]" to see if out works on the specific carrier you want.

I've been planning on the Moto X from Republic Wireless. It sounds like from Moto Maker they are coming with 4.4.2, so I can only hope the guy selling codes is still doing so and can unlock mine, otherwise wait and pray they find a way to unlock 4.4.2 on RW..
If not, I hope I can live with a generally stock phone.. It does seem like the Moto X is pretty good all around as it is, so maybe it won't be so bad :fingers-crossed:

I have used RW for about 2 or 3 months and I am planning to switch to something like T-mobile for various reasons. all the reasons that annoy me enough to switch are somewhat small stuff but that's just me.
the reasons are: no emoji support, no 3rd party texting app supported fully (texting works mms doesn't), slower than the rest software updates (we got our 4.4.2 update, if I'm not mistaken, last), and my biggest annoyance with them is not allowing me to unlock my phone (but I eventually did it anyways).
I also feel like they don't listen to the community as much as they should but they sure as hell listen to it more than a big carrier.
anyways that' just my opinion, I might add a few things to this list if I think of them.

Any Canadian Moto X 2014 Users

Was really considering the phone, but Telus sells the 16GB one. And I am not sure how they will cripple Moto's fast updates. Any Canadian owners, leave your thoughts. I am better off going with the Pure Version?

The only thing telus has done with their moto x is the branding in the status bar and a shortcut to the mytelus account Web app
I don't expect them to take long for other updates.

Mine didn't even come with the Telus MyAccount app at all? It seems like there's actually nothing here (locked phone aside)

The "My Telus" app is in the play store. There really isn't anything on the phone that should delay the update. Part of telus' marketing for this phone has been something along these lines: Pure Style, pure performance with the fastest updates. Im expecting to get the update at the same time as the pure edition or maybe after a few days of network testing.
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You can actually remove the TELUS branding in status bar form network settings if you want.

Telus
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.

Gage_Hero said:
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.
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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?

oxxshadow said:
Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.

Gage_Hero said:
If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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ah ok thanks! I am thinking of getting the Pure, but I forgot us Canucks cannot buy it

I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.

snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.

oxxshadow said:
I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.
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Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.

aznturtle100 said:
Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.
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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?

oxxshadow said:
You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?
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I bought the phone from telus then unlocked it. I cost me about 690$ after tax (quebec tax).

Its a good choice
Gage_Hero said:
If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.

Does anyone know when is the end of the Telus exclusivity period?

snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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Yes it do unlocked. and in cheap way. i got mine unlocked from http://phoneunlockingshop.ca

torawnto said:
I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.
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how did you do it? i cant get any methods to work

Any Canadians Get a Moto Maker Moto X?

After hearing about the 140 dollar off black Friday sale, I am really considering the phone. The only issue is Moto does not ship to Canada, and I am not sure if they accept Canadian credit cards. Anyone in Canada ever manage to get a Pure Edition Moto X?

oxxshadow said:
After hearing about the 140 dollar off black Friday sale, I am really considering the phone. The only issue is Moto does not ship to Canada, and I am not sure if they accept Canadian credit cards. Anyone in Canada ever manage to get a Pure Edition Moto X?
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i got it when the preorder started.... but i have american credit cards.. had it shipped to my bro's place and he brought it over next time he came to town.. shame they don't have the moto maker in canada

I'm hoping to get in on the Moto Maker deal on Monday (I have relatives in the US, so I'm not so worried about shipping). The question I have is, are there any concerns about hooking it up to the Bell network? From what I'm seeing, I should get the "Pure Edition" and the bands look like they'd match up, but I'm hoping someone can verify that yes this will work before I drop $450 on a new phone

Locri said:
I'm hoping to get in on the Moto Maker deal on Monday (I have relatives in the US, so I'm not so worried about shipping). The question I have is, are there any concerns about hooking it up to the Bell network? From what I'm seeing, I should get the "Pure Edition" and the bands look like they'd match up, but I'm hoping someone can verify that yes this will work before I drop $450 on a new phone
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Yes, it will work great with Bell - go for it!

Locri said:
I'm hoping to get in on the Moto Maker deal on Monday (I have relatives in the US, so I'm not so worried about shipping). The question I have is, are there any concerns about hooking it up to the Bell network? From what I'm seeing, I should get the "Pure Edition" and the bands look like they'd match up, but I'm hoping someone can verify that yes this will work before I drop $450 on a new phone
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nice, but do you have an american credit card?

I might have to have my relatives help me out on that front, but as long as I can get the deal when the site is actually up, that shouldn't be a problem.
And thanks Steve-x for answering the bands question
Definitely a better plan than the Nexus 5 I was originally going to go for!

I bought a used Telus XT-1097 the other day, if not for that I was wanting the Pure edition as well as it is clearly the best model to buy. End of the day buying one locally that was like new for a fair price was just way easier then trying to get a US prepaid Visa. I didn't need to but I sim unlocked it for fun, it was less then 3 bucks for the code.
Will likely bootloader unlock and root after I've given it a really good test/workout.

Steve-x said:
I bought a used Telus XT-1097 the other day, if not for that I was wanting the Pure edition as well as it is clearly the best model to buy. End of the day buying one locally that was like new for a fair price was just way easier then trying to get a US prepaid Visa. I didn't need to but I sim unlocked it for fun, it was less then 3 bucks for the code.
Will likely bootloader unlock and root after I've given it a really good test/workout.
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I am about to jump the gun and purchase the cyber monday Moto X. Would you know if it works on bell or telus here in canada ?

oxxshadow said:
I am about to jump the gun and purchase the cyber monday Moto X. Would you know if it works on bell or telus here in canada ?
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The "pure" xt1095 version will work perfect with either.

Steve-x said:
I bought a used Telus XT-1097 the other day, if not for that I was wanting the Pure edition as well as it is clearly the best model to buy. End of the day buying one locally that was like new for a fair price was just way easier then trying to get a US prepaid Visa. I didn't need to but I sim unlocked it for fun, it was less then 3 bucks for the code.
Will likely bootloader unlock and root after I've given it a really good test/workout.
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You might want to wait until you get teh update before rooting and unlock boot loader.... seems I read in a few threads you have to flash back to a stock image to get the update....... unless of course your planning on flashing the XT1095 image.. but I'd research that first too...

Steve-x said:
I bought a used Telus XT-1097 the other day, if not for that I was wanting the Pure edition as well as it is clearly the best model to buy. End of the day buying one locally that was like new for a fair price was just way easier then trying to get a US prepaid Visa. I didn't need to but I sim unlocked it for fun, it was less then 3 bucks for the code.
Will likely bootloader unlock and root after I've given it a really good test/workout.
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Hi @Steve-x,
Can I ask where you bought the sum unlock code from? I checked cellunlocker.net and they quoted me $15?!
Cheers!
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Hi @Steve-x,
Can I ask where you bought the sum unlock code from? I checked cellunlocker.net and they quoted me $15?!
Cheers!
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PM'd you the link!
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You might want to wait until you get teh update before rooting and unlock boot loader.... seems I read in a few threads you have to flash back to a stock image to get the update....... unless of course your planning on flashing the XT1095 image.. but I'd research that first too...
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Yeah, I have been waiting so far. It doesn't look too bad though. With 4.4.4 the unroot option in SuperSU should handle things just fine, then flash stock recovery back. The only two things I really want are ad blocking and to enable the green light to indicate when the phone is charging. Might also do a custom boot animation, again easy to undo.

I am considering the amazon version of this phone on verizon.

Is there anything I should know? Anyone have any thoughts? I am coming from the s5.
It would be nice to have a phone on verizon with official lineage os support, but there are limited options.
My questions before I purchase.
Is there xposed support for whatever android version is current on this phone?
What kind of nonsense do I need to go through to get the unlocked amazon version working on verizon?
What kind of roms are favored on this phone?
After some research, I am learning that the amazon version can't be bootloader unlocked, but the one direct from moto can be. Is this correct?

Amazon version can't be rooted or bootloader unlocked.

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Amazon version can't be rooted or bootloader unlocked.
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Cool, is there a retailer with a good return policy I can buy it from? I am sure it would be a pain to return it to motorola if I buy from them and don't like it.

johnwaynegacy said:
Cool, is there a retailer with a good return policy I can buy it from? I am sure it would be a pain to return it to motorola if I buy from them and don't like it.
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not sure about that buddy. Best buy sells it, Moto on ebay sells it, Newegg sells it.

johnwaynegacy said:
Cool, is there a retailer with a good return policy I can buy it from? I am sure it would be a pain to return it to motorola if I buy from them and don't like it.
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https://swappa.com/buy/moto-x4-unlocked
Most good sellers allow returns within a certain time period (and as long as you don't damage it). Check the listing description or message the seller. I got mine from here last year mint condition about $100 below Motorola retail.

Get the Android One version via Project Fi
I also came from a S5 and am thoroughly enjoying this phone. No restrictions on unlocking the bootloader (it is a setting you can enable/disable). Android One version is very bare bones. Battery life is great so I don't really miss the replaceable battery.
Project Fi is 1/2 the price that AT&T was (not including the rebates that had my bill at $40 for a few months) and it will get even cheaper when our two phones are paid off. Bonus is that you can block callers from leaving voicemails OR texting you via Project Fi's blocked caller list - this is something that I don't think AT&T or Verizon do.