As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
nizmoz said:
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
djinn415 said:
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
Virgo_Guy said:
For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?
Anyone has experience in performance differences between 6GB and 8GB model?
By quick glancing it looks like only difference is amount of memory or is there something else? Device will be used for photo and social apps only. No gaming of any kind.
Thanks
Same otherwise. For your use, probably wouldn't notice any difference.
The 128gb version also has 8gb ram, not only 256gb
xAD3r1ty said:
The 128gb version also has 8gb ram, not only 256gb
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Some 128GB models only have 6GB RAM. All 256/512GB models have 8GB RAM.
jacobtf said:
Some 128GB models only have 6GB RAM. All 256/512GB models have 8GB RAM.
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Ok didn't know, mine has 8
Didn't know they made 8gb / 128gb variants. As far as it's listed here, there's only 6/128 , 8/256 & 8/512
As for the difference, honestly from 6- 8 there will be no noticeable difference during regular usage. It's not like Emui allows all the apps to keep running in the background. Power management is quite aggresive and probably will need to remove powergenie to fully utilize it.
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Didn't know they made 8gb / 128gb variants. As far as it's listed here, there's only 6/128 , 8/256 & 8/512
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I have a UK device. VOG-L09, 8GB RAM and 128GB storage.
I have read many topics about comparisons 8gb to 12gb e.g. oneplus 8 pro etc. It turned out that 8gb is perfectly fine if you are not using 15 applications at once. Do you think that for the SD 888 and three powerful cameras it will still be sufficient?
The 6gb on my s9+ was more than enough for anything 2 weeks ago.
So realistically 8gb will also be more than enough. But if the price difference between 8 amd 12 isn't big, just go for the 12gb so that u can fullfill the placebo effect of a faster phone
A few weeks ago I was still using the Pixel4a with its 6 Gigs of RAM and the so called "weakling" SD 730G chipset. It was enough for me...
8 GB is more than enough IMO. Anything more than 8 GB RAM on a phone, is a gimmick! For the casual user of course. Although not really sure what you'd have to be doing on your damn phone in order to fully utilize like 12GB of RAM hahaha.
8GB is more than enough. If you are a social butterfly and you use fb, instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, tiktok in parallel it will only consume less than 6GB. If you play any game it will still be less than 7GB
The newer ram is about 20% more efficient. No such thing as too much.
My Note 10+ is running on 12 gb of the older generation ram with good battery life.
That said you can see what my current ram usage is right now with 7 gb free. With ram intensive apps that can change. That Android doesn't have to off load much or anything means less cpu cycles wasted and a snappier response.
Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
I doubt if there is any difference in performance at all. I have the 512 GB version because I like to keep 400 GB of local FLAC format music on my devices, and I don't always want to fool with a MicroSD card. Does any single Android game really use more than 12GB of RAM? I think it simply comes down to the size of apps and how many you will be installing, which will reasonably translate to needing much more RAM for more multitasking if you use a lot of apps at the same time.
issue5854 said:
Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
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You won't notice any difference.
Not even a single game (native or emulation) uses that amount of RAM.
A few of the most demanding games (direct PC ports) Grid Autosport or Alien Isolation barely use 3-4GB on Average.
Even if you multitask, A LOT, 12Gb will cover you good.
Btw, I got the 8Gb version, and I do heavy stuff on it, still running smooth, no issues with apps being closed in the background, etc...
Just a fair warning, S8 TAB series lineup has a really bad cooling solution, so thermal throttling is heavy, just in case if you planned doing some "heavy" gaming.
thanks @roirraW "edor" ehT & @ekin_strops for this feedback
I found a way and ordered the 16GB version, so I'll be using it, and see how it goes.
Hello
I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
thecrater said:
Hello
I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
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I'd be careful about making assumptions about what you consider legal. It is true that many companies toe the line when it comes to false advertising.
In this case, Samsung is using some of the storage as RAM; they're doing this because volatile RAM is fairly expensive and power hungry, whereas NVRAM is cheaper and does not require power to maintain its state. It's essentially the same thing as a paging file in Windows. There's no scam, it's just a marketing gimmick, albeit a technically inaccurate one.
On my SM-X808U, it is called RAM Plus and it is user adjustable between 2 GB and 8. It does not affect the amount of installed memory which is 8GB.
Where did you see 4+4? It's 8+4. Just disable the memory plus, it's easily doable with one ui 5.
Download aida64 before you say it's scam. Since that app registers after how much RAM is installed. For me it says 16GB LPDDR5. Then you have RAM plus to extend ram even more, by using storage.
Mine is a s8 ultra