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As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
nizmoz said:
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
djinn415 said:
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
Virgo_Guy said:
For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?
I have the Samsung note 9 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?
It's because your phone is running an operating system that consumes RAM and Samsung bundles in a bunch of bloatware that also consumes RAM. I can confirm that the 6GB models do have around 3GB free usually.
Hello guys, please tell which of this two versions you've got and why.
Does it mather to pay about +-50 more to get the 128GB version instead of 64GB, if just the storage size changes?
dkionline said:
Hello guys, please tell which of this two versions you've got and why.
Does it mather to pay about +-50 more to get the 128GB version instead of 64GB, if just the storage size changes?
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Well sadly no expandable storage which sucks, so get 128gb if you can. Personally I have 64gb because thats the only version available at Amazon.
I depends on your usage, how much space do you use on your current phone?
I had less than 20gb left on my 64gb Mi A2, and now, i have 73 gb left on my 128gb Mi 9, if i had the 64gb version, i would have only 9gb left. You also need to think about your space for 2 years from now, and also for the resell value.
I bought the 128gb and I don't know why. 64GB would be enough.
Buying the 64GB here. Even with Netflix downloads, a few GB games and tons of photos., I’m hoovering at 20 GB free space after a year and a half. Google Photos saves a lot of space and unlimeted cloud storage in a decent enough quality.
Gokh said:
I depends on your usage, how much space do you use on your current phone?
I had less than 20gb left on my 64gb Mi A2, and now, i have 73 gb left on my 128gb Mi 9, if i had the 64gb version, i would have only 9gb left. You also need to think about your space for 2 years from now, and also for the resell value.
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Running 32GB internal + 64GB external, but most is on external SD btw. I have some OTG C to use too.
128g here! the way i look at it rather have too much than not enough haha
I have 6GB/128GB because the Mi 9 has no external storage
I have the Mi 9 because Belsimpel (dutch shop) only has the 128GB version in blue.
I wanted the 128gb version but it was out of my budget (was way overpriced too). So i went with the 64gb and to be honest i'm gonna miss my 128gb i had with my redmi note 4 as external storage ... but oh well at least i can sell it and get some money back out of it. c:
I have 6/64 and for me it is ok.
I don't need many space in mobile phone, just some gb for mp3 to listen in can via bluetooth.
If better 64 o 128 gb depend of your own use of mobile phone.
bought the 128gb version myself as the price i got on it was quite cheap but 64 one would have been just fine too (as i had a 32gb s7 edge previously with 32gb sdcard)
256GB, the more the merrier
Do note that the storage speed differs quite a bit between the two versions. The 128GB one has faster sequential reads (almost 800MB/s, compared to 620-690 the 64GB one gets) while the 64GB one has almost twice as fast seq write speeds (about 390MB/s compared to 180-ish the 128GB one gets). The other parameters are usually in line, they also tend to differ between ROM versions on the global dev I've been running until now.
My current phone is the LG V10 so I went with the 8/128. I don't like buying phones so I wanted to make sure this one lasts as long as possible.
Noticed that no-one is mentioning how much space you do actually get after turning the phone for the first time. I have see somewhere that 128g version has 117g free. Is this true?
phnikola said:
Noticed that no-one is mentioning how much space you do actually get after turning the phone for the first time. I have see somewhere that 128g version has 117g free. Is this true?
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Yup. I just roughly calculated it and I got 116,88gb. Don't remember the exact value.
Try get 128. But only if you use your camera often (specially video). I bought 64gb and now only my gallery take 15GB. 4min video from some event takes 1, 2GB. So let's think before.
I got the 64gb because the 128gb was too expensive when I ordered it. I use Google Photos so no storage space used for photos on my phone and it's free. Thanks whoever posted the RAM speed differences. I was unaware. I wonder if the 256gb has faster speeds?
Just before I purchased the phone, I changed my mind and went for 64gb version.
My previous phone had 64gb storage and 64gb SD card, and I was using around 100gb of the total.
On the way to the shop I had a little cleaning, and checked the files on my SD card and it turned out almost all is useless and I just keep it on my phone (I had 2 year old TWRP backups, many custom ROMs and mods that I don't need and use etc)
Same apps and similar amount of downloads (on Netflix, Spotify, Photos etc) and I have 30gb free on my 64gb Mi 9. So, I don't think 128gb is necessary for a regular user.
Now, I can use the 50 euros I saved, in buying a 20W wireless charger and a power-bank.
Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
I doubt if there is any difference in performance at all. I have the 512 GB version because I like to keep 400 GB of local FLAC format music on my devices, and I don't always want to fool with a MicroSD card. Does any single Android game really use more than 12GB of RAM? I think it simply comes down to the size of apps and how many you will be installing, which will reasonably translate to needing much more RAM for more multitasking if you use a lot of apps at the same time.
issue5854 said:
Hi, I'm looking to buy a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, but I've seen there are 3 versions of it:
* 128GB Memory with 8GB of RAM
* 256GB Memory with 12GB of RAM
* 512GB Memory with 16GB of RAM
I can easily find the 12GB version, but for the 16GB version there are some difficulties to acquire it. So, I was wondering if there is huge difference between the two versions in performance. If it's not a huge gap of difference, then I would buy the 12GB version.
Does anyone have any experience with these two devices? Any suggestions?
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You won't notice any difference.
Not even a single game (native or emulation) uses that amount of RAM.
A few of the most demanding games (direct PC ports) Grid Autosport or Alien Isolation barely use 3-4GB on Average.
Even if you multitask, A LOT, 12Gb will cover you good.
Btw, I got the 8Gb version, and I do heavy stuff on it, still running smooth, no issues with apps being closed in the background, etc...
Just a fair warning, S8 TAB series lineup has a really bad cooling solution, so thermal throttling is heavy, just in case if you planned doing some "heavy" gaming.
thanks @roirraW "edor" ehT & @ekin_strops for this feedback
I found a way and ordered the 16GB version, so I'll be using it, and see how it goes.
Hello
I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
thecrater said:
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I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
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I'd be careful about making assumptions about what you consider legal. It is true that many companies toe the line when it comes to false advertising.
In this case, Samsung is using some of the storage as RAM; they're doing this because volatile RAM is fairly expensive and power hungry, whereas NVRAM is cheaper and does not require power to maintain its state. It's essentially the same thing as a paging file in Windows. There's no scam, it's just a marketing gimmick, albeit a technically inaccurate one.
On my SM-X808U, it is called RAM Plus and it is user adjustable between 2 GB and 8. It does not affect the amount of installed memory which is 8GB.
Where did you see 4+4? It's 8+4. Just disable the memory plus, it's easily doable with one ui 5.
Download aida64 before you say it's scam. Since that app registers after how much RAM is installed. For me it says 16GB LPDDR5. Then you have RAM plus to extend ram even more, by using storage.
Mine is a s8 ultra