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Xperia T/Tx/V official android 4.3 First Impression

I made this post to let everyone share his impression about the long waited android 4.3 To our beloved phones T/TX/V
share your thoughts =)
and Gratz lets w8 for our last hope the Kitkat =D
Update
after flashing the usa FTF i just used my mobile for 10mins and seriously i got a new mobile now! nicely done by Sony
Smooth and Graphic is eye blessing just gotta w8 till get rooted and get the smaller navigation bar cuz this one is kinda too big
i love the call animation too It`s a new phone now =) Gratz to everyone
Tx Owner

First we won't get kitkat and in March our 18 months are over and Sony has yet made it to get itself out of having to give us kitkat...
Now 4.3. I don't know I expected more. SP got the gloves mode for example and I don't know whether it is just the Vodafone version why aren't we getting an update center?
The cam looks good but lacks of functionality, for example the tap to focus and make picture is gone and the auto mode being chosen every time I open the app is not really optimal.
The lockscreen is a bit rudimentary but we all knew that before yes we got widgets but honestly what do they offer if I have to watch out not opening Walkman or when swiping left and right. Better optional app buttons and to have them on the lower screen half.
Then the Docomo status bar better than what we had before but definitely many steps behind other uis in that case.
Worst for me is that the buttons for navigation are almost third of the screen... Would it kill Sony to make that customizable?
My main parts I'm not yet updating and waiting for the modders to do their best

My Impression
It snappy ,looks nice ram usages is poor I don't know about battery life yet , sound quality seems to be enhanced :louder ,deeper bass, higher treble all round improvement P.S. for those who don't know first start up will be a tad laggy

Rep
It feels much faster than 4.1.2. I love the lockscreen and the design

pieceofphil said:
First we won't get kitkat and in March our 18 months are over and Sony has yet made it to get itself out of having to give us kitkat...
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No buddy asked you about KitKat :-S
Sent from Shane's Xperia T LT30a

What about TX? When receive 4.3?
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pieceofphil said:
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The cam looks good but lacks of functionality, for example the tap to focus and make picture is gone and the auto mode being chosen every time I open the app is not really optimal.
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... and that for a company like Sony. Imagine that.
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My main parts I'm not yet updating and waiting for the modders to do their best
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Yep, and that for a completely stripped down version, with no auto-background update of Google Services, and other unneeded items.

Torres77an said:
No buddy asked you about KitKat :-S
Tinup93 said:
share your thoughts =)
and Gratz lets w8 for our last hope the Kitkat =D
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I took the share your thoughts part as invitation to share my thoughts on both subjects mentioned.
And I advise you to just let people have their opinion and if I needed to release my frustration over that subject respect that too. Otherwise get out of the internet as you'll get offended every second website you visit.
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Your not the first one to complain about it I just want to hear about the update not about the one we're most likely not going to get that's a hole other thread.
Sent from Shane's Xperia T LT30a

Maybe no update centre is a hint that we will not get updated to kit kat?

Stamina mode and camera
- Stamina mode looks like its 2 versions back. It lacks of customization which is in SP and Z series. Besides the (inaccurate) timer there is nothing new. That mode was previously in 4.1.2 just now it looks better.
- Camera - first impression is that it makes better pictures in low light conditions but I cant find settings in menu for resolution and quality - itll be nice if someone tell me where it is.

pieceofphil said:
SP got the gloves mode
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SP always had glove mode...
pieceofphil said:
the tap to focus and make picture is gone and the auto mode being chosen every time I open the app is not really optimal.
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I didn't know about this. I rely on tap to focus (as someone who knows absolutely nothing about taking a good picture)
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The lockscreen is a bit rudimentary but we all knew that before
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I passionately hate the current Xperia lock screen. While I like using other lockscreens, sometimes the default lock screen over-rides it anyway, I think when memory is low. I know I can use a pin, pattern, etc, but I want to be able to look at my phone for a very few short seconds without all the fiddling. Worst Xperia lock screen yet. Even the X10 lock screen was better.
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Then the Docomo status bar better than what we had before but definitely many steps behind other uis in that case.
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I'm glad this is present, my partner's SP has had it since updating to 4.1 and I've always been a little envious

Bit disappointed Walkman doesn't have music unlimited built in. It's the one thing I was waiting for
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LegibleEel said:
Bit disappointed Walkman doesn't have music unlimited built in. It's the one thing I was waiting for
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It doesn't?? Now that surprises me, considering the new walkman app is included in the feature list, and the new walkman app (at least for the SP) does have built in music unlimited :-/

kingstonxl said:
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- Camera - first impression is that it makes better pictures in low light conditions but I cant find settings in menu for resolution and quality - itll be nice if someone tell me where it is.
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You're most likely in Super auto mode... Got to switch to manual mode first and then enter the settings
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Torres77an said:
Your not the first one to complain about it I just want to hear about the update not about the one we're most likely not going to get that's a hole other thread.
Sent from Shane's Xperia T LT30a
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There's something called over reading. Learn it, really will help you.
BTW I'm getting confused you're not the post maker why you think you can tell me what to write and what not to write?

pieceofphil said:
You're most likely in Super auto mode... Got to switch to manual mode first and then enter the settings?
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Thanks! haven't noticed that

to me it seems a bit laggy compared to the .278 leaked version

i see a few bugs
First of all, what happened to the stock browser. is it android policy to pass to chrome in 4.3? I dont know about you, bt i dont feel any butter maybe the firmware still needs to get the hang of the device, vut for the moment it feels a bit laggy. Most important: What the hell happened to the volume bar?! i press the volume keys and ony a small grey rectengle appears, no indicator of volume level, i can hear the beeps increassing volume but i dont see it, and if you are in an app like RR3 it doesnt work! anybody had the same problem?

shyrsio said:
First of all, what happened to the stock browser. is it android policy to pass to chrome in 4.3? I dont know about you, bt i dont feel any butter maybe the firmware still needs to get the hang of the device, vut for the moment it feels a bit laggy. Most important: What the hell happened to the volume bar?! i press the volume keys and ony a small grey rectengle appears, no indicator of volume level, i can hear the beeps increassing volume but i dont see it, and if you are in an app like RR3 it doesnt work! anybody had the same problem?
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For me volume bar is shown correctly
Sent from my LT30p using xda app-developers app

Update: Just restarted phone, now volume bar seems to be working ok

Is anyone else having issue with the camera focusing ?

It seems it will not focus properly. sometimes it does and i can take a really good picture. but most of the time all it takes is blurry pics. has anyone else had this issue and no of anything to fix it ?

Did you take the protective film off the lens?
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mine does the same thing, and i don't know what to do.. i hope it's a software issue and samsung can fix it.

Go to settings and check what type of metering you have it set to? Is it centered Matrix?
I've always just kept it on matrix as I found it to work the best for general shooting...

Less than 10 of us have reported this issue in the tmo forum. I was hoping it was a software issue too but we're all running the same software. Exchange it.

Had this exact problem and exchanged mine. New one is perfect.

Do you guys use video stabilization on the camera settings?

Glad I'm not alone with focusing problems...
Here is my topic : Note 4 camera won't lock focus + blurry edges on pictures with far focus
Best regards,
Chris.

particle1 said:
It seems it will not focus properly. sometimes it does and i can take a really good picture. but most of the time all it takes is blurry pics. has anyone else had this issue and no of anything to fix it ?
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Is your camera MODE on Selective Focus?

Did anyone find a fix for this? My wife's 2 week old note 4 has started doing this. It doesn't do it all the time and it happens with the Samsung camera and the Google camera. Yesterday I got it to fix itself by zooming but today that didn't help.

mntgoat said:
Did anyone find a fix for this? My wife's 2 week old note 4 has started doing this. It doesn't do it all the time and it happens with the Samsung camera and the Google camera. Yesterday I got it to fix itself by zooming but today that didn't help.
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Phone is defective.
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Haven't had problem with camera. Read this thread. Fires up camera. Now I experiencing slow mo focusing.
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Soft reboot solves it.

A soft reboot definitely solves this, had this experience with the previous Note series as well. Either the phone is overheating or the camera app is running in the background and the user forgot to force close the app especially if the camera was overextensively recently used; remember this is a phone camera, not professional grade SLR.
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Haven't had problem with camera. Read this thread. Fires up camera. Now I experiencing slow mo focusing.
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Soft reboot solves it.
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winlinmac001 said:
A soft reboot definitely solves this, had this experience with the previous Note series as well. Either the phone is overheating or the camera app is running in the background and the user forgot to force close the app especially if the camera was overextensively recently used; remember this is a phone camera, not professional grade SLR.
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Nope. My phone has come nowhere near overheating. Fired up the camera on the whim of this thread. Closing camera from and force stopping in application manager did not do anything to resolve the issue. Tried some a couple other things. No dice. Soft reboot. Fixed. It's a bad random bug. Thanks touchwiz.

Overheating is one of many causes; others can also be the camera app running the background, especially for too long. A soft reboot is the only solution, but this occurred to me on other Note models as well; hey, its another samsung thing, argh.
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Nope. My phone has come nowhere near overheating. Fired up the camera on the whim of this thread. Closing camera from and force stopping in application manager did not do anything to resolve the issue. Tried some a couple other things. No dice. Soft reboot. Fixed. It's a bad random bug. Thanks touchwiz.
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My phone is less then 2 weeks old and this is happening. I went to the tmobile shop I bought It from and they reset it and told me if it happened again to call tmobile for a replacement. They weren't trying to replace it. Tmobile is sending me a replacement exchange. Hopefully this one works better cause my wife's is fine. Tired of coming upon issues like this when purchasing phones that cost this much. Worst part is I argued over the phone with tmobile to send me a new phone, they wanted to send me a refurbished phone. They said it will be a new phone, hopefully it is otherwise I'm returning all of them.
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Donot update lolipop...

My friend got update to lolipop 5.0.1 he ruined his phone battery life..total screen on time 3 hours just
my 4.4.4 kitkat give me this battery life almost 6 hours withour powersaving mode
here is proof

I'm getting 6hr or more with average use on Lollipop 5.0.1

Lots of people who updated, have a little bit less battery runtime with lollipop then with kitkat. I think using "ruined" is a lil over the top. It's a bug in Lollipop (no need to prove your statement) and is on the Nexus and HTC devices too. Still getting easily a full day on a single charge

I can't wait for the update. I'm getting 3 hours SOT with 4.4.4

@Lyrah battery life seems good lol...that is almost the same I am getting.

Over all poorer battery life with lollipop but still not to the extend of "ruined my phone". It is still a good update.
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Iyrah said:
My friend got update to lolipop 5.0.1 he ruined his phone battery life..total screen on time 3 hours just
my 4.4.4 kitkat give me this battery life almost 6 hours withour powersaving mode
here is proof
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There are always sissies that want to complain. Nothing wrong with lollipop. And don't compare it with kitkat that is using a custom kernel probably

I don t think 2 hours SOT down on non root phone is acceptable update.

kapybarus said:
I don t think 2 hours SOT down on non root phone is acceptable update.
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It's his personal bug. Samsung never said to him, flash with odin. So don't complain if he is using a unofficially tool. If you do use odin, always wipe your phone or life with it.

Yeah, lollipop destroyed my battery life too, down to 3 hours SOT if I'm lucky, before it was 4:30-5ish hours

Question is: Have you done a factory reset or not? If not, you can complain all day long.

So battery usage for person A compared to person B in an uncontrolled unscientific test....and it "ruined his phone" ?
OK.....

As usual many unhelpful comments. Try turning off wifi when not required. I have the problem and it's much improved by manually turning it off. There appears to be a bug randomly affecting users. Mine was actually fine for the first 3 or 4 days then one day it died really quickly. Wifi was the culprit.

This is what I get with LP. Much worst than KK. I have done full wipe after update N910c

People get an update they've been anxiously waiting for and as a result play with their phone more. Then they complain the battery life is "ruined".
If you're rooted you need to do a couple of things.
Give the new ROM a day to "settle down". This is also for you so that you fall back into normal usage habits.
Then charge your phone to full. Wipe battery stats. Discharge all the way to empty then charge to full again.
You'll get a lot more battery life if you do that each time a new ROM is flashed.
Lastly, calm down. Put down the sky-is-falling megaphone.
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I'd also like to add. I can't help but laugh when I see the screen shots as "proof" when the app usage list shows Facebook, or a game, or some other third party app as the culprit. Oh But it's samsungs lollipop updates fault Yeah?

Sublation said:
People get an update they've been anxiously waiting for and as a result play with their phone more. Then they complain the battery life is "ruined".
If you're rooted you need to do a couple of things.
Give the new ROM a day to "settle down". This is also for you so that you fall back into normal usage habits.
Then charge your phone to full. Wipe battery stats. Discharge all the way to empty then charge to full again.
You'll get a lot more battery life if you do that each time a new ROM is flashed.
Lastly, calm down. Put down the sky-is-falling megaphone.
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I'd also like to add. I can't help but laugh when I see the screen shots as "proof" when the app usage list shows Facebook, or a game, or some other third party app as the culprit. Oh But it's samsungs lollipop updates fault Yeah?
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You're a joke and as old as your advices are. I'm not rooted. I use FB for 5 minutes and it stays connected as all apps that use Internet.
They stay connected even if you use them for 1 minute.
Also even if I didn't wanted to have FB it comes preinstalled.
I'm no child and my use pattern is the same as KK.
Stop being an smartie and if you have no real solution to a problem don't comment. Unless it hurts your loved one, Samsung, which no one said was it's fault.
It's just the buggy 5.0.1.

Whatever you say bro. I told you how to fix it. Sure it's old advice but no one seems to do it. And it's a sound practice that has solved nearly every battery life issue I've had with any phone.
And i wasn't speaking to you specifically, just commenting on a general pattern I see with battery complaints. But I see now your screenshot shows Facebook as the top app. So maybe you thought I was talking to you alone. I replied before I even got to the last page.
But funny, you only used it for five minutes and it's the top app. Hmm...so sort of makes my point stronger about a 3rd party app sucking down battery life eh? More reason to root and dump the bloatware.
And sure, your usage behavior remained firmly rooted in stone with a brand new update. whatever you say.
And my love for Samsung? Please I've got iPhones, htc, motorola.... It's the same overblown complaining in every manufacturer's forum.
Take a chill pill.

mariosraptor said:
This is what I get with LP. Much worst than KK. I have done full wipe after update N910c
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If you have not done this please do it, Go to settings-wifi-Advanced-Always allow scanning, uncheck if its checked & report back, this is for you & OP both.

Sublation said:
Whatever you say bro. I told you how to fix it. Sure it's old advice but no one seems to do it. And it's a sound practice that has solved nearly every battery life issue I've had with any phone.
And i wasn't speaking to you specifically, just commenting on a general pattern I see with battery complaints. But I see now your screenshot shows Facebook as the top app. So maybe you thought I was talking to you alone. I replied before I even got to the last page.
But funny, you only used it for five minutes and it's the top app. Hmm...so sort of makes my point stronger about a 3rd party app sucking down battery life eh? More reason to root and dump the bloatware.
And sure, your usage behavior remained firmly rooted in stone with a brand new update. whatever you say.
And my love for Samsung? Please I've got iPhones, htc, motorola.... It's the same overblown complaining in every manufacturer's forum.
Take a chill pill.
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I'm chilled. I don't want to root just to get rid of bloat that shouldn't had been there in the first place.
And my usage has remained rooted in stones as you say indeed. It's just an update which should had never been pushed with so many bugs.
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If you have not done this please do it, Go to settings-wifi-Advanced-Always allow scanning, uncheck if its checked & report back, this is for you & OP both.
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Thanks man. Just unchecked it and I'll let you know. This sound much more reasonable to be sucking down battery life.

with lollipop I have one houre more SOT (7 hours, 6 with KitKat) and I am very happy with the update!

new update

Just received an update through OTA, haven't done the update yet, has anyone got this, Sony has forced people to do the update, as you can't hide it or disable it, it will just stay in the status bar and as notification.

I updated but have no idea what was delivered. Firmware version remained the same.
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kms108 said:
Just received an update through OTA, haven't done the update yet, has anyone got this, Sony has forced people to do the update, as you can't hide it or disable it, it will just stay in the status bar and as notification.
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That would be the first time one is forced to update/upgrade. Usually you can select something like "Always", "Only when connected to WiFi" or "Never". Isn't that no more the case with the Xperia X series? Hope it is...

yeh, I found out you can prevent the upgrade, but you have to do it before a upgrade pops up in the upgrade section.

Yes i update my phone today via flashtools
Download firmware ftf from flashtools xperifirm 5.0
After updating
Better camera less noise in low light
And now camera lunch is fasterthan before
Now phone in general is better than before and contacts problem is gone
I think sony update contacts app
Till now no overheat
Can'ttest battery life cz i bought it yesterday and tday i update to latest version
Thank you

karrouma said:
Yes i update my phone today via flashtools
Download firmware ftf from flashtools xperifirm 5.0
After updating
Better camera less noise in low light
And now camera lunch is fasterthan before
Now phone in general is better than before and contacts problem is gone
I think sony update contacts app
Till now no overheat
Can'ttest battery life cz i bought it yesterday and tday i update to latest version
Thank you
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I got no overheat, thank god.
The bionz is too aggressive, too much noise on pictures.
Stamina mode is a joke compared to before. It just slows the phone down.
Battery life seems OK, and it charges fast if gone dry
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karrouma said:
Yes i update my phone today via flashtools
Download firmware ftf from flashtools xperifirm 5.0
After updating
Better camera less noise in low light
And now camera lunch is fasterthan before
Now phone in general is better than before and contacts problem is gone
I think sony update contacts app
Till now no overheat
Can'ttest battery life cz i bought it yesterday and tday i update to latest version
Thank you
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hey karrouma,
Do you need to be rooted to use Flashtools?
I show that my phone is up-to-date, but I still have the Contacts app issue (I don't care anymore cuz I use Contacts + app, but still). I've been having an issue I hope is gone now where phone randomly restarts on its own. I cleared all the preferences (or cache?) at once and restarted. So far it's good (knock on wood), but I wonder if doing what you did would help? But if it requires root forget it. lol
Also, on your box, on the side.......... what country/language codes do you see? Mine said ZH, EN which I guess was China and English for US/UK (or maybe England?? lol). HK would be Hong Kong, so still China. TW would be Taiwan. I've been told the Taiwan int'l version doesn't have the Contacts app issue.
Please let me know.

No root , u canuse flashboot safely if u know how to install your phone driver
Tw phone the dual with 64gb
Nice phone and nice size in pocket

karrouma said:
No root , u canuse flashboot safely if u know how to install your phone driver
Tw phone the dual with 64gb
Nice phone and nice size in pocket
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Ok. Wait it's called Flashboot or Flashtools??
Not sure. I've rooted and unlocked bootloaders before, but I don't know the exact procedure for what you're talking about. Are there instructions somewhere online? Where did you go to get the FTF file? Is THIS it?
Ok you got the Taiwanese version. Cool. Mine's Hong Kong. I don't think the TW version ever had the stock Contacts app issue though.
Yeah I LOVE my XP!!

HK version just received 238 update OTA
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HK version just received 238 update OTA
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What update is this, I have 3 updates which includes supports, music, and whats new, but haven't updated yet.
I just see the system update now, have you updated yet, do you know what is new or fixes.
thanks

kms108 said:
What update is this, I have 3 updates which includes supports, music, and whats new, but haven't updated yet.
I just see the system update now, have you updated yet, do you know what is new or fixes.
thanks
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I didn't copy the changelog, it was brief. I believe update is 36mb. A couple regions were released with this firmware so it was only a matter of time.
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augie7107 said:
HK version just received 238 update OTA
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Just a few minutes after seeing your post I got it too. lol
After it was done it said that I just got an update, but I didn't see an "update log summary" telling me what had been update. Any clue??

23mpix superior auto.
Overheating issues and next time please write firmware number in topic header.
I wrote about this firmware long ago

HellRoot said:
23mpix superior auto.
Overheating issues and next time please write firmware number in topic header.
I wrote about this firmware long ago
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Apparently this thread was referring to a previous f/w and not the current one, also I can't find a thread that was posted before this.

HellRoot,
Ok so it dealt with overheating issues (I haven't had that happen as of yet) and the camera. So what, it made the 23 MP in Superior Auto mode better somehow??
Cool. I didn't see it. Thanks!
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kms,
Wait, so the f/w we got yest WASN'T the one HellRoot described??
Ok, so what DID it have then??

RockStar2005 said:
HellRoot,
Ok so it dealt with overheating issues (I haven't had that happen as of yet) and the camera. So what, it made the 23 MP in Superior Auto mode better somehow??
Cool. I didn't see it. Thanks!
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kms,
Wait, so the f/w we got yest WASN'T the one HellRoot described??
Ok, so what DID it have then??
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This was my second update, this current one available in the past few days, apparently I haven't updated it yet so I can't comment on it.

kms,
Ok. If you find out what the latest one has to offer, please post about it here. I hate that Sony isn't doing this already.
Thanks.

RockStar2005 said:
kms,
Ok. If you find out what the latest one has to offer, please post about it here. I hate that Sony isn't doing this already.
Thanks.
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Stamina mode has been ruined and instead of my regular 54hrs at 100% battery, I now get 27hrs with the. 238.
Battery to me is everything, thats why i was very happy with my Sony Xperia x performance.
But not anymore.
Also i just checked, my batt was at 70% i tried turning off stamina mode to see how much the change would be, ONE HOUR difference with stamina mode on!
ONE!
VERY ANNOYED!
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Is there a way to revert to back my system update?
Also, I posted on sony forums about it.
Posted in software section, for some stupid reason it was moved to xperia x section as a reply to a topic about 8hr battery.
I clearly stated it was xperia x performance and the system update 35.0.a.1.238. Yet when I went to check it was gone and move.

XxKYNGxX said:
Stamina mode has been ruined and instead of my regular 54hrs at 100% battery, I now get 27hrs with the. 238.
Battery to me is everything, thats why i was very happy with my Sony Xperia x performance.
But not anymore.
Also i just checked, my batt was at 70% i tried turning off stamina mode to see how much the change would be, ONE HOUR difference with stamina mode on!
ONE!
VERY ANNOYED!
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"Regular 54 hrs"? The XP just came out a month ago. What do you mean regular?
I tried leaving SM on overnight last week for about 7 hours, and the battery STILL goes down, but only 4%. It's not like the SM on the Z3, which was better but also to me quite buggy. Without SM overnight my battery went down 7%. I only activate SM when I'm gonna be out for more than a few hours, or else it's not worth it.
Note: Make sure if you use the "Visual Voicemail" app that after enabling then disabling SM that you go back into the VV app and re-enable it. Or else calls that go to VM will only show up on Notification Pane (VV notif won't show up) and you'll have to re-enable it later anyways, so might as well just remember to do it after disabling SM. Other than that it works pretty well, just not AS great as on my old Z3. But at least it's not buggy, and by buggy I mean super annoying MMS and random battery drain issues. MMS messages wouldn't always come in and randomly the battery level would free fall, and I'd have to FACTORY RESET the phone to make it ok. I'm so glad Sony finally fixed it, just wish it didn't lose any battery power overnight. Oh well.

Need help understanding Nokia 7 plus

Hi friends,
I just bought Nokia 7 plus yesterday and it's completely unknown to me, as of now. My last device was Xiaomi Mi A1 and I used it like hell. Used the device for custom ROM development. So, I knew everything about that device. But I need you help to understand the device a bit more. Can you guys let me know some cool stuffs that are hidden (if any) or some tricks to make the device more attracted. And I have a few questions. If someone could take a few moments and answer them, I would appreciate.
1. Is it worth switching to Andoid P beta or is Oreo more stable?
2. Is it necessary to get a screen protector or tempered glass or can the Gorilla glass resist scratch from dust particles or sand?
3. Does the ambient display consume more battery on Nokia 7 plus? On Mi A1, it used to drain a huge amount of battery.
4. I find the headpgone jack is a lit bit tight. It takes some force to plug and unplug a headphone. Can the force damage the headphone port?
5. Since unlocking bootloader is bot possible (without paying), I can't root and cant get Viper4android or Dolby Atmos. Is there anyway I can improve the music listening experience. I mainly use Spotify and Wynk music to listen to music.
6. Is there any way I can use Gcam on Nokia 7 plus. I saw people vould use Gcam on Nokia. But it doesn't work for me and keeps crashing (Im on latest July update).
7. Should I kill background apps manually to free up RAM (I used to use Greenify on Mi A1)? Or does Nokia 7 plus handle RAM management automatically and how good it is?
Thank you in advance for taking your time to read the post.

Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Hi friends,
I just bought Nokia 7 plus yesterday and it's completely unknown to me, as of now. My last device was Xiaomi Mi A1 and I used it like hell. Used the device for custom ROM development. So, I knew everything about that device. But I need you help to understand the device a bit more. Can you guys let me know some cool stuffs that are hidden (if any) or some tricks to make the device more attracted. And I have a few questions. If someone could take a few moments and answer them, I would appreciate.
1. Is it worth switching to Andoid P beta or is Oreo more stable?
2. Is it necessary to get a screen protector or tempered glass or can the Gorilla glass resist scratch from dust particles or sand?
3. Does the ambient display consume more battery on Nokia 7 plus? On Mi A1, it used to drain a huge amount of battery.
4. I find the headpgone jack is a lit bit tight. It takes some force to plug and unplug a headphone. Can the force damage the headphone port?
5. Since unlocking bootloader is bot possible (without paying), I can't root and cant get Viper4android or Dolby Atmos. Is there anyway I can improve the music listening experience. I mainly use Spotify and Wynk music to listen to music.
6. Is there any way I can use Gcam on Nokia 7 plus. I saw people vould use Gcam on Nokia. But it doesn't work for me and keeps crashing (Im on latest July update).
7. Should I kill background apps manually to free up RAM (I used to use Greenify on Mi A1)? Or does Nokia 7 plus handle RAM management automatically and how good it is?
Thank you in advance for taking your time to read the post.
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Greetings! Welcome among us! I also switched from Mi A1 and I didn't regret it at all (instead of the lack of bootloader unlocking). I'll try to answer to all of your questions with my best knowledge.
1. I have been using Android P developer preview for 2 months now and I have to say, it's very stable. Yesterday I got a new patch (V3.150), and I couldn't even tell that it's not a stable version. Perfect for daily driver. (Not all Android P features implemented yet though).
2. I'm not fond of screen protectors, but since my Redmi Note 4X fell down to face and shattered I've been always using 2.5/3D screen protectors from ebay. These types of screen protectors are the least disturbing since they aren't visible at all. (for example: LINK).
3. In Android P there is an option for always-on ambient display. That feature eats a LOT of battery. Other than that, you won't realize any battery draining.
4. It really shouldn't. Nowadays ports are supported from the inside of the phone with a strong slab-like stuff (don't know the name, sorry ). Tight is better than loose. My friend has a galaxy S6 and its jack is so loose sometimes the earplug falls out. Also, it will loosen a little bit after a while.
5. YES! Definitely. I use Equalizer FX Pro (it's worth its price!), which is reeeally great. Works with all music players (including spotify, of course). If you don't want to spend money on it immeiately, you can try the free version. Note: You'll have to disable stock Equalizer.
6. Yes, this site has all the GCam ports and many of them works. (LINK). Right now I'm using GoogleCamera-Pixel3Mod-Arnova8G2-V3_Aux-4.02.apk, which works on Android P as well, but actually if you update to P, you might see some improvements on the stock camera too.
7. RAM is meant to be filled, so it doesn't matter if your free RAM is 2.00GB or 3.00GB. Unless you run out of RAM, there is nothing to worry about. Suggestion: stay away from Instagram if it's possible. I've got plenty of apps on my phone, but Instagram eats by far the most RAM and battery. Even though I open the app once a day. Sometimes it drains 10% of my battery by only running in the background.
I hope I answered all your questions.

coda00 said:
Greetings! Welcome among us! I also switched from Mi A1 and I didn't regret it at all (instead of the lack of bootloader unlocking). I'll try to answer to all of your questions with my best knowledge.
1. I have been using Android P developer preview for 2 months now and I have to say, it's very stable. Yesterday I got a new patch (V3.150), and I couldn't even tell that it's not a stable version. Perfect for daily driver. (Not all Android P features implemented yet though).
2. I'm not fond of screen protectors, but since my Redmi Note 4X fell down to face and shattered I've been always using 2.5/3D screen protectors from ebay. These types of screen protectors are the least disturbing since they aren't visible at all. (for example: LINK).
3. In Android P there is an option for always-on ambient display. That feature eats a LOT of battery. Other than that, you won't realize any battery draining.
4. It really shouldn't. Nowadays ports are supported from the inside of the phone with a strong slab-like stuff (don't know the name, sorry ). Tight is better than loose. My friend has a galaxy S6 and its jack is so loose sometimes the earplug falls out. Also, it will loosen a little bit after a while.
5. YES! Definitely. I use Equalizer FX Pro (it's worth its price!), which is reeeally great. Works with all music players (including spotify, of course). If you don't want to spend money on it immeiately, you can try the free version. Note: You'll have to disable stock Equalizer.
6. Yes, this site has all the GCam ports and many of them works. (LINK). Right now I'm using GoogleCamera-Pixel3Mod-Arnova8G2-V3_Aux-4.02.apk, which works on Android P as well, but actually if you update to P, you might see some improvements on the stock camera too.
7. RAM is meant to be filled, so it doesn't matter if your free RAM is 2.00GB or 3.00GB. Unless you run out of RAM, there is nothing to worry about. Suggestion: stay away from Instagram if it's possible. I've got plenty of apps on my phone, but Instagram eats by far the most RAM and battery. Even though I open the app once a day. Sometimes it drains 10% of my battery by only running in the background.
I hope I answered all your questions.
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Thanks buddy. You have answered all my questions quite well. Just one question. Should I enroll for Android P beta program and wait for the OTA update? Or it is better to sideload anf flash the beta rom through ADB? Im not in a hurry anyway.

Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Thanks buddy. You have answered all my questions quite well. Just one question. Should I enroll for Android P beta program and wait for the OTA update? Or it is better to sideload anf flash the beta rom through ADB? Im not in a hurry anyway.
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I opted my girlfriends phone in the OTA developer programme and she got the update 10 mins after, so if the OTA programme is not full, you should also get the update in such a short time. If you won't get it in about an hour, just download the sideload.

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coda00 said:
I opted my girlfriends phone in the OTA developer programme and she got the update 10 mins after, so if the OTA programme is not full, you should also get the update in such a short time. If you won't get it in about an hour, just download the sideload.
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And my warranty won't get void if I sideload, right??

Rowdyy Ronnie said:
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And my warranty won't get void if I sideload, right??
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Defenitely not. It is also discussed on Nokia forum. But anyway, if you sideload back the oreo package, nobody can tell what you did

coda00 said:
Defenitely not. It is also discussed on Nokia forum. But anyway, if you sideload back the oreo package, nobody can tell what you did
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Cool.

can you explain procedure for coming back to 8.1 ? and when do that does ota updates work to get latest official update (july)?
thanks

coda00 said:
Greetings! Welcome among us! I also switched from Mi A1 and I didn't regret it at all (instead of the lack of bootloader unlocking). I'll try to answer to all of your questions with my best knowledge.
1. I have been using Android P developer preview for 2 months now and I have to say, it's very stable. Yesterday I got a new patch (V3.150), and I couldn't even tell that it's not a stable version. Perfect for daily driver. (Not all Android P features implemented yet though).
2. I'm not fond of screen protectors, but since my Redmi Note 4X fell down to face and shattered I've been always using 2.5/3D screen protectors from ebay. These types of screen protectors are the least disturbing since they aren't visible at all. (for example: LINK).
3. In Android P there is an option for always-on ambient display. That feature eats a LOT of battery. Other than that, you won't realize any battery draining.
4. It really shouldn't. Nowadays ports are supported from the inside of the phone with a strong slab-like stuff (don't know the name, sorry ). Tight is better than loose. My friend has a galaxy S6 and its jack is so loose sometimes the earplug falls out. Also, it will loosen a little bit after a while.
5. YES! Definitely. I use Equalizer FX Pro (it's worth its price!), which is reeeally great. Works with all music players (including spotify, of course). If you don't want to spend money on it immeiately, you can try the free version. Note: You'll have to disable stock Equalizer.
6. Yes, this site has all the GCam ports and many of them works. (LINK). Right now I'm using GoogleCamera-Pixel3Mod-Arnova8G2-V3_Aux-4.02.apk, which works on Android P as well, but actually if you update to P, you might see some improvements on the stock camera too.
7. RAM is meant to be filled, so it doesn't matter if your free RAM is 2.00GB or 3.00GB. Unless you run out of RAM, there is nothing to worry about. Suggestion: stay away from Instagram if it's possible. I've got plenty of apps on my phone, but Instagram eats by far the most RAM and battery. Even though I open the app once a day. Sometimes it drains 10% of my battery by only running in the background.
I hope I answered all your questions.
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Hi,
i ordered the screen protector you mentioned at Point 2. I hope it fits better than my current one. Also with black edges but has this ugly marks and a slight rainbow effect.

digitall1982 said:
can you explain procedure for coming back to 8.1 ? and when do that does ota updates work to get latest official update (july)?
thanks
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Hi! Of course. You'll have to download the following zip: https://android.googleapis.com/pack.../29a06b8105e817828fb3403265a92489a7b681a0.zip
Download the required platform-tools, because you'll have to use adb. You'll also have to enter recovery mode (turn off the device, then turn on while holding down volume up button). Wipe the phone. Connect the device to your pc, enter sideload mode, open the command line, navigate to the zip file and then type in: "adb sideload <zip file name>". That should do it. If something is unclear, search for "nokia 7 plus oreo roll back" on google, and watch a video on youtube about it.
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magiQx said:
Hi,
i ordered the screen protector you mentioned at Point 2. I hope it fits better than my current one. Also with black edges but has this ugly marks and a slight rainbow effect.
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The reason for the "rainbow effect" is usually because the alcohol from the cleaning cloth is stuck under the glass panel. You have to clean the screen very thoroughly with the dry cloth after the wet one.

magiQx said:
Hi,
i ordered the screen protector you mentioned at Point 2. I hope it fits better than my current one. Also with black edges but has this ugly marks and a slight rainbow effect.
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The reason for the "rainbow effect" is usually because the alcohol from the cleaning cloth is stuck under the glass panel. You have to clean the screen very thoroughly with the dry cloth after the wet one.

coda00 said:
The reason for the "rainbow effect" is usually because the alcohol from the cleaning cloth is stuck under the glass panel. You have to clean the screen very thoroughly with the dry cloth after the wet one.
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Thanks for the tip. But there was no alcohol left on the screen. I wiped it dry and rubbed it good with separate clothes after i degreased it with alcohol. This happened with 2 different screen protectors from 2 different companies. Both were this type with black margins. Befor that i had one fully transparent screen protector but the airbubbles on the side of the screen because of the gap bothered me. With that i had no issues like that "rainbow effect"

coda00 said:
Hi! Of course. You'll have to download the following zip: https://android.googleapis.com/pack.../29a06b8105e817828fb3403265a92489a7b681a0.zip
Download the required platform-tools, because you'll have to use adb. You'll also have to enter recovery mode (turn off the device, then turn on while holding down volume up button). Wipe the phone. Connect the device to your pc, enter sideload mode, open the command line, navigate to the zip file and then type in: "adb sideload <zip file name>". That should do it. If something is unclear, search for "nokia 7 plus oreo roll back" on google, and watch a video on youtube about it.
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thanks, but i found out much easier way, just requst ota downgrade like for update, no pc needed
but for now i'll stick to latest beta because is faster and more fluid, and no problems