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Make non-motorola charger work?

So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!

On a regular basis I successfully charge my D4 using both a charger from a Samsung Reality feature phone and from a B&N Nook Simple Touch, in addition to the one that came with it. I've also used a variety of car chargers.
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Actually, so far I have only one charger that had any trouble charging the phone (it was a $3 charger with 2 USB ports), but the $3 charger with ONE USB port works fine, as does the Nook Color charger, Blackberry charger, and Samsung charger I have tried it with, as well as both my old car charger and Lenovo's always-on charging port on their laptops.

JKingDev said:
So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!
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Not sure how it knows one way or the other. I've successfully used a few LG chargers to charge my D4. The only really hickup I've ran into is the usb cables from those lg chargers won't sync data to the phones when plugged into a computer, they'll still charge off the usb port but won't read as a usb connection to the computer.

Heh, captcha is trynply.
Every charger I've used, including an old charger for an EN-V, kindle, supplied, and various other phone chargers works just fine with this phone. Probably have a bad charger, guy.

Thanks for the replies. I guess I was wrong. My modded car charger works just fine. I guess its just time to retire the old charger that I have been using. I think it might be my old nexus one charger.

A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris

RueTheDayTrebek said:
A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris
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It does in fact charge via USB port. In fact, it has a 'charge only' mode. Depending on how much juice your port puts out, and what you are doing with the phone, it will charge slowly/not at all, though.

from my experiences, the droid 4 will not accept lg microusb cables, the charging bricks work tho. i use a blackberry microusb on mine along with a Logitech and the stock moto ones. 1.2 amps is a bit high but not crazy sounding. personally, I charge at 1 amp.

Charge wont work on computer USB

Ok so my TF701 will charge just fine while connected to the wall charger, but it wont charge at all while connected to a computer. The instruction manual says it will and the general population of users agrees. However when I plug it into my computer the tablet still shows as discharging.
Yes the USB ports work fine. Tried in 4 different computers, nothing.
Anyone have any idea what is wrong?

Thats done on purpose by Asus. It's been like that since the first Transformer Pad

Tab actually requires 12 to 15v to charge - hence the proprietary charger and connector . A usb port only provides 5V.
It will actually trickle charge over USB but it is extremely sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. If you use the tab whilst connected to USB it will discharge faster than it can charge.

The stock charger is actually only 5v, it's a USB standard. However the charger produces something like 40watts as opposed to standard USB chargers of 10-20watts.

[Q] Does you phone charge directly from your car USB port?

By "directly" I mean using regular USB data cable (most likely USB->Micro USB) and NOT special charge only cable that has data pin shortened to draw higher current.
The reason for this post is that I found that my new phone (Moto X) doesn't charge when connected directly via regular data USB cable even though charging indicator is on. When idle it still loses several %/ hour, when running Google maps - much more.
After Googling I found that if the phone is connected as USB media device it draws less power from USB and it may not be sufficient to charge phones with high capacity batteries. Workarounds include using charge-only USB cables that have data pins shorted, cigarette lighter chargers or AC charger if your car is equipped with AC socket (mine is, but what a pain to have to use it for this!).
Here is my situation on '11 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 430N (2 USB ports, Android phones are recognized as media device on both):
Old phone (Droid Incredible, 1300 mAh battery) charged fine when idle via regular data cable even though it was in media player mode. I haven't really used it when running Google Maps much so can't comment on that.
New phone (Moto X, 2200 mAh battery) doesn't charge via regular data cable (even though indicator shows phone charging). When idle it still loses several %/ hour, when running Google maps - much more. I tried 500 mA cigarette lighter charger and it charges it fine in idle, haven't tried while running Google Maps yet.

The USB power in my truck is provided by one of these:
http://daqstuff.com/400116_5volt_switching_power_supply.htm
The only mod I made was to short pins 2 and 3 on the USB ports, which is required for full current charging with a Nexus 7. Dunno if the Moto X is the same, but it charges just fine when plugged into it.

My Moto X does not charge from the USB port in my Acura. I use a USB adapter in the cigarette lighter if I need to charge it.
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The USB power in my truck is provided by one of these:
http://daqstuff.com/400116_5volt_switching_power_supply.htm
The only mod I made was to short pins 2 and 3 on the USB ports, which is required for full current charging with a Nexus 7. Dunno if the Moto X is the same, but it charges just fine when plugged into it.
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Wow 2 amps. At home my iPhone is good for something! Its 2 amp wort charges the x fast!

Yes all phones charge in my Hyundai but very slowly since its only a regular USB port not a charging port. I use a Griffin dual USB charger instead.
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Moto X does not charge in my Honda or Volkswagen via car's USB port. All my previous phones including nexus 5 did. For Moto X I have to use car charger.
From my Moto X, in your face!

My wife's X does not charge via her aftermarket stereo in her Subaru. I have not tried it in my F-150 though.

Standard USB ports in a PC supply 5V and 550mA which is not enough to charge current smart phones. If you are using apps, 550mA is not enough to maintain the charge level (i..e if you have 90% charge, plug into a standard USB port, and use Google Maps or stream a movie from the internet, your battery's charge will slowly drain. Not as fast as when unplugged, but it will drain).
The X ships with a 1150A adapter. I've used 850mA to slowly charge the phone.
I've not metered the voltage and current coming out of my car's USB port.
I use a dual port USB charger that outputs 2.1A per port. (its either Griffin or Kensington)

I stumbled across this issue when I tried to charge my X in the car. I have an old nokia car charger (had nice thick writes and curly cord) that I cut the plug off and soldered a micro usb plug and a resistor between pin 5 and ground for activating car mode on my SGS2 (i9100). I plugged in the X, nothing. I did some research and found that shorting D+ and D- puts it into AC fast charge mode. Charges fine with the screen on. Luckily the old nokia charger has enough grunt to cope.
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Yep
Interesting. Mine does charge via the USB cable on my aftermarket head unit, but it is fairly slow. All I care is that it doesn't drain the battery at all for 4 hours car trips while streaming music and running Google Maps with the screen on the entire time.

mine slowly/medium charges with MyLog and CarHome Ultra or Nav.
I have a magnet and SkipDot in my car dock to auto unlock and trigger car mode which launches CarHome Ultra. I use Llama to further trigger and enable bluetooth and gps as well as disable WiFi. bluetooth connecting to my JVC head unit triggers My Log and automatically logs journeys for tax. Llama cleans up and turns of gps/bt which causes MyLog to finish too.
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USB-C Rapid Charging w/ AA?

I've been searching around, and haven't really found an answer to this. I'm in the process of purchasing a car that has OEM AA, but unfortunately only one USB port, which apparently provides less than 1A of output. There is a 12V outlet in close proximity to the USB port. Are there any solutions out there for using AA while also providing higher amperage charging? Was thinking about trying a small hub/adapter (similar to what you would attach to a USB-C Macbook) but I wasn't sure if that would pass-through power as well. Using a stock Pixel 2.

Probably its not easy to achieve, but usually this is not a problem, you can still buy a different charger for rapid charging which works via the 12v outlet, and when its full or nearly full switch to the AA port, since even if its lower than 1A it will be enough to charge the phone ( or better: to not let it discharge) since the display is off during AA session

I use a USB Y Cable (https://www.startech.com/Cables/USB...xternal-Hard-Drive-USB-A-to-mini-B~USB2HABMY3) with a USB Mini to USB-C adapter.
I don't get the "Charging Rapidly" notification on the lock screen, but it does charge noticeably faster than before.

Super charge and cable not genuine

Hello. I tried charger qc 3.0 but doesn't work at speed fast... I tried the genuine charger with a tested cable hi speed 3.0 and doesn't work at speed... Can anyone suggest a charger and a cable tested working lower yhan 10 dollars shipped??? Its incredible this price difference with qc that i bought both 3 dollars

Use original cable and charger ro charge at high speed... Other cables or chargers don't work and can even damage your phone..
(for example my umi fast charger usb C..
charges at 5+9+12volts)

With a cheap price always comes cheap quality.
QC 3/4 are not built for the Mate 10 series, they are built for QC compatible devices, while it will still charge the phone, probably at slightly increased speeds - you won't get the full power out of it as, its not meant to be used on a Fast charge phone (Fast charge / SuperCharge whatever Huawei call it)

Let me share something which I've found out recently. If you use a QC charger for eg. Xiaomi Type C Mi Power bank Pro which support QC 3.0 charging, my Mate 10 will display "Fast Charging" which is definitely faster than normal "Charging". If you use the Huawei Supercharge AP09S Power bank, it will charge at the max rate "Super Charging"

Huawei Supercharge is a dedicated technology just like qualcomm quickcharge. For it to work you need the dedicated hardware.
Most important: Huawei Supercharge phone and Huawei Supercharge power brick. Since supercharge features up to 5A current you will need a type c cable that supports 5A. Then you are good to go.
The Huawei phone of course supports standard USB protocols like 5V2A etc. But that's not fast.
Older Huawei/honor phones support Huawei quickcharge (what they used before supercharge) which is 9V2A. I think the mate 10 supports that too.
From my experience though the phone displays "charging" when connected to PC via USB. "Quickcharge" when connected to normal wall charger. "Supercharge" when connected to supercharge wallcharger (or supercharge car charger or supercharge Powerbank) via 5A (ampere) USB cable.