I did FM kenel and apply to overclock done.
So i used to take a long time about 30min i cannot reduce 300MB on ram.
How about your device.
Fannally i had used my ram by fast reboot app.
I too have same problem...
Why do you want to have free ram? It is there to use, so let the os use the ram...
I've noticed a lot of people has no clue on what RAM is or does. We can't expect that everyone knows how everything works, but that's why we have books and the internet. Read.
How RAM Works<---
Which better in sd memory cards
Kingstone 32gb class 10 OR
G- Skill 32gb class 10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
Ok Thank u very much but actually the link helped me in knowing that class 4 may be better than 10 in some cases but it did not help in the comparison between g-skill and kingstone .. also i want the sd card to do the trick of increasing ram by rooting .. because the performance of the ram is terrible due to installing a lot of app;ications and games
ok can we add in the comparison SanDisk 32GB Micro SD Ultra Mode
so the will be what should i buy ?!!!!
1- SanDisk 32GB Micro SD Ultra Mode
2- Kingston 32gb class 10
3- G-skill 32gb class 10
No answer till know ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
arrivals18 said:
ok can we add in the comparison SanDisk 32GB Micro SD Ultra Mode
so the will be what should i buy ?!!!!
1- SanDisk 32GB Micro SD Ultra Mode
2- Kingston 32gb class 10
3- G-skill 32gb class 10
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I'd got for kingston if you want stability, sandisk is kinda good with speeds, don't know about G-skill
arrivals18 said:
also i want the sd card to do the trick of increasing ram by rooting .. because the performance of the ram is terrible due to installing a lot of app;ications and games
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BUT if i were you, I wouldn't use my sdcard to increase my memory.1 GB is enough, actually more than enough.You may be wanting more memory due to stock ROM using too much RAM, but android is designed to use lots of RAM.For example, android will cache the apps you use oftenly in your RAM so that they'll launch faster and you will same some battery if you launch them often in short amount of time.
For the RAM performance, I think we've got ddr2 1066 (not sure), which is fast enough as its even faster than my PC's (ddr2 800).IF you haven't cleaned your ROM by removing bloatwares (most of the apps with LGE name in it are bloatwares), your phone will lag and yes, your RAM will slow down.After I removed all the bloatwares, I freed around 150 - 200 mb RAM and my phone became smoother.So you should try this before you kill your sd card for a little bit of more RAM.
NEVER use sd card to increase your RAM, It will kill it easly and your phone won't be fast at all.RAM is a lot of faster than a class 10 sd card, your phone could only use your SD card to store inactive **** inside that SD card and even then your phone will be sluggish, especially when your freeing up some RAM.This can be done by launching a game, android would push inactive apps, caches into your SD card, thus making your RAM do more work while transfering data over to sd card and slow down launch time.That could also slow down games which require a lot of RAM speed.Ironman 3 for example, you keep switching between environments which requires textures to be replaced inside your RAM, in that kind of case you'd experience lots of lags.In brightest situation, your phone won't lag as much but you won't get any performance improvements either (perhaps a little until you launch apps) and your BATTERY will deplete like hell.
Your sd card won't last for long no matter what you purchase, all flash memories have a limited write-read cycles, and using it as a RAM would do a lot of r/w cycles, thus resulting in very short lifespan.Google dead sd cards caused by that RAM expanding method, you'll find a lot of dead sd card complaints.
Source : I used such method to increase my old phone's little ram (290 mb).Which resulted in an even slower phone, with lots of lagspikes and slower UI.
ottomanhero said:
I'd got for kingston if you want stability, sandisk is kinda good with speeds, don't know about G-skill
BUT if i were you, I wouldn't use my sdcard to increase my memory.1 GB is enough, actually more than enough.You may be wanting more memory due to stock ROM using too much RAM, but android is designed to use lots of RAM.For example, android will cache the apps you use oftenly in your RAM so that they'll launch faster and you will same some battery if you launch them often in short amount of time.
For the RAM performance, I think we've got ddr2 1066 (not sure), which is fast enough as its even faster than my PC's (ddr2 800).IF you haven't cleaned your ROM by removing bloatwares (most of the apps with LGE name in it are bloatwares), your phone will lag and yes, your RAM will slow down.After I removed all the bloatwares, I freed around 150 - 200 mb RAM and my phone became smoother.So you should try this before you kill your sd card for a little bit of more RAM.
NEVER use sd card to increase your RAM, It will kill it easly and your phone won't be fast at all.RAM is a lot of faster than a class 10 sd card, your phone could only use your SD card to store inactive **** inside that SD card and even then your phone will be sluggish, especially when your freeing up some RAM.This can be done by launching a game, android would push inactive apps, caches into your SD card, thus making your RAM do more work while transfering data over to sd card and slow down launch time.That could also slow down games which require a lot of RAM speed.Ironman 3 for example, you keep switching between environments which requires textures to be replaced inside your RAM, in that kind of case you'd experience lots of lags.In brightest situation, your phone won't lag as much but you won't get any performance improvements either (perhaps a little until you launch apps) and your BATTERY will deplete like hell.
Your sd card won't last for long no matter what you purchase, all flash memories have a limited write-read cycles, and using it as a RAM would do a lot of r/w cycles, thus resulting in very short lifespan.Google dead sd cards caused by that RAM expanding method, you'll find a lot of dead sd card complaints.
Source : I used such method to increase my old phone's little ram (290 mb).Which resulted in an even slower phone, with lots of lagspikes and slower UI.
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That is . Using sd as a ram will not speed my phone also it will consume battery " this is the biggest problem " so tell me how to speed up my phone , minimize freeze as i have more than 40 apps and The Dark Knight rises , Need for Speed and this games can not be played well and a have from 150 to 200 mb of ram free only !!!!!!!!!!! i don't know why . also i usually kill all apps that still worked and this don't do anything
arrivals18 said:
That is . Using sd as a ram will not speed my phone also it will consume battery " this is the biggest problem " so tell me how to speed up my phone , minimize freeze as i have more than 40 apps and The Dark Knight rises , Need for Speed and this games can not be played well and a have from 150 to 200 mb of ram free only !!!!!!!!!!! i don't know why . also i usually kill all apps that still worked and this don't do anything
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150-200MB free is more than enough. Android runs on a *Nix base - it is designed to use all the memory it can and will free up memory as needed. "Free memory is wasted memory". Lagging is due to the GPU, CPU speeds etc - lots of people have problems with playing games on this device.
SimonTS said:
150-200MB free is more than enough. Android runs on a *Nix base - it is designed to use all the memory it can and will free up memory as needed. "Free memory is wasted memory". Lagging is due to the GPU, CPU speeds etc - lots of people have problems with playing games on this device.
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Not only games but also opening simple apps such as chrome !!!!!!!
arrivals18 said:
Not only games but also opening simple apps such as chrome !!!!!!!
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How empty is your internal SD card? Ever tried V6 supercharger script? What kernel are you using (I'd recommend eternityproject kernel)?
Your cpu shouldn't have any difficulties loading chrome, don't think its related to RAM, perhaps your having I/O lags.
arrivals18 said:
That is . Using sd as a ram will not speed my phone also it will consume battery " this is the biggest problem " so tell me how to speed up my phone , minimize freeze as i have more than 40 apps and The Dark Knight rises , Need for Speed and this games can not be played well and a have from 150 to 200 mb of ram free only !!!!!!!!!!! i don't know why . also i usually kill all apps that still worked and this don't do anything
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I currently have NFS, the dark knight rises, real racing 3 and dungeon hunter 4, a few more apps that consume 100 - 200 mb internal memory and around 20 more small games.I'm experiencing no lags in any games except the dark knight rises (thanks to gameloft...) and dungeon hunter doesn't lag in normal visual settings.
I'm using eternity project kernel and V6 supercharger script to manage my RAM.
NEVER use a task killer in this device, Use an autoruns manager (such as gemini app manager) to stop apps from runing in background, consuming RAM & cpu.That helped me smoothen my phone when I had lags back in the day.
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No answer till know ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Le Kingston because they produce the highest quality SD cards. I never had any problems with any Kingston product, be it a USB flash drive or microSD.
The class 1-10 also matters, get a high class kingston microSD card.
I disabled alot of bloatware and always close applications but i need a substantial ram usage and wanted to know if this was normal.
Phone isnt slow or anything, but i thought this looked like it was using more then i expected
check screen below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5tklwz262ln772/Screenshot_2014-04-24-21-54-53.png
genelise said:
I disabled alot of bloatware and always close applications but i need a substantial ram usage and wanted to know if this was normal.
Phone isnt slow or anything, but i thought this looked like it was using more then i expected
check screen below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5tklwz262ln772/Screenshot_2014-04-24-21-54-53.png
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That is normal. Lower RAM usage means increased lag. Higher RAM usage means reduced lag. Disabling apps ("bloatware" or otherwise) has almost no impact on RAM usage.
When RAM usage is high, that means the OS is doing it's job and teeing up all the apps you are likely to run next. If those apps were not ready to go and waiting in RAM, they would need to be loaded into RAM first, which causes lag.
GeorgeP said:
That is normal. Lower RAM usage means increased lag. Higher RAM usage means reduced lag. Disabling apps ("bloatware" or otherwise) has almost no impact on RAM usage.
When RAM usage is high, that means the OS is doing it's job and teeing up all the apps you are likely to run next. If those apps were not ready to go and waiting in RAM, they would need to be loaded into RAM first, which causes lag.
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thanks for the information. The phone is defiantly not slow and didnt think it was a major issue unless it affected performance.
s5 is great
Since the P20 does have 6 GB of memory the usage never seems to exceed ~51%.
Is there a threshold?
Also boost app, after intense use, sometimes crashes and restarts.
So I suspect the real memory usage to be restricted to save battery?
Achilles Etimone said:
Since the P20 does have 6 GB of memory the usage never seems to exceed ~51%.
Is there a threshold?
Also boost app, after intense use, sometimes crashes and restarts.
So I suspect the real memory usage to be restricted to save battery?
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RAM uses power whether it stores a 1 or a 0 so it's always active. Ram usage won't affect battery life. The os just manages the ram to keep sufficient available for running foreground apps etc and closes or minimises background ones as needed. I've seen mine go as low as 2gb available.
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Hello guys,
I would like to ask you, what is your average ram usage? because the lowest I could go for is 5GB after using memory guardian to close all apps and average usage is 6-6.5 GB. Highest is 7.4 GB
I find the average so high, because I was using same apps on my previous A70 phone and only 4-5 gb was used.
Is that normal?
Are you guys using any third-party app to clean your ram automatically?
A70 has only 6GB of RAM. You were using 80-90% of it (4-5GB).
S21U has 12/16 GB of RAM and you're using 50-60% of it (6-8 GB), even for the "lower" RAM variant.
That's very good brother. If the remaining 4 GB RAM is lying unused, or if you had more, like 8 GB free, how would that benefit your user experience? One of the reasons to buy flagships like this is the large RAM. But that would be pointless if it were never even used, right?
Apps kept in RAM can be woken up and ready to instantly with less energy expenditure. Those that get unloaded from the RAM, are also eventually loaded back - but that is from the internal UFS 3.1 storage, which is slower than LPDDR5 RAM, and wastes much more energy (battery) for a full app start instead of resuming from suspended state in RAM.
I stopped using RAM clearing apps or even OEM cleaning services few years ago. Android manages RAM very well on the newer versions, and I haven't seen any advantage of clearing apps or RAM as an end user. It only helps if you have a rogue app that runs in the background constantly. Usually, the battery health monotoring built in Android will alert yourlself to it and you can choose to put it to deep sleep or disable or uninstall the offending app. But short of bad apps, most other services don't need manual motitoring and constant user maintenance.
When free RAM falls below what the phone needs, it will kill the last/least pioritised task and re-claim it for use. As a user, you shouldn't have to bother with managing it manually.
Yup, as @enigmaamit said, don't worry and stop bothering with ram cleaning apps. I also used to try and clean my RAM back in the day but that was only necessary on the 2GB and maybe 4GB RAM phones. Since the 6GB RAM phones, cleaning apps have been useless.
The reason your a70 was using less is because it had less and the system had to decide how much to fill and how much to leave free to maximize performance.
Carry on and worry not.
On android, free ram is wasted ram. Remember this and stop using useless "memory cleaning" apps. All they do is slow your phone down and kill your battery life. Same with clearing app cache. Only do it if you have a problem with the respective app.