Pixel 3, good news for the MI 8 scene? - Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers

Having the same processor as us (845), aren't that great news for the MI 8 scene?
Will that ease developing ROMs like Pixel2ROM or porting the camera?
I haven't found which camera sensor does the Pixel 3 include, but it uses laser to focus, so I guess it is different from ours.

Not sure if I am talking out my ass but I am pretty sure we could at least port some processing technique over to the mi 8 ???

It's great because Pixel3 and Mi8 seems to share a lot in common. I'm not sure but the specs of the sensor of Pixel3 are the same of the Mi8, so it could be an IMX363 (12.2Mp, dual pixel, 1.4μm pixel size, f/1.8 aperture, check by yourself it's the same!).
Also same proc (S845), so yes great news !

Bad news! mi8 look overrated with this current software

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Need 240fps slow-mo video shooting camera for Xiaomi Mi 5

Hi everyone,
All of us know that Xiaomi Mi5 came with powerful Snapdragon 820 chipset. Also Mi5 equipped with 16mp camera with Sony IMX 298 sensor. But its a great matter of sorrow that Mi5 can't shoot 240fps slow motion video in 720p even [email protected] though it has one of the most powerful hardware combination in the market!
Snapdragon 820 does support [email protected] slow-mo shooting but Mi5 doesn't. Mi5 can only record upto 120fps in 720p resolution. On the other hand 'ZTE Axon 7' also came with Snapdragon 820 and ZTE took full advantage of it. Axon 7 can record "[email protected]","[email protected]/60fps",[email protected] even "[email protected]". But poor Mi5 can record "[email protected]", "[email protected]" & "[email protected]".
Isn't it Xiaomi's poor software optimization? They are giving 2/3 years old video shooting mode on a top notch device which has a great hardware of 2017. Even nowadays a phone with poor chipset can record 1080p videos @30fps. Isn't it a great shame for Xiaomi & all Mi5 users comparing other Snapdragon 820 phones from OnePlus, Samsung, Google Pixel, ZTE etc? Sadly me also in the list.
SO I AM REQUESTING A 240FPS VIDEO SHOOTING CAMERA FOR MI5 LIKE 'CAMERA X' OF NEXUS 5X.
Is it possible to port/modify ZTE Axon 7's camera/kernel for Mi5? Or Google Pixel's camera/kernel? Or building a new one according to them for Mi5?
Remember that Snapdragon 820 does support those shooting modes by default. Just need a modified/ported camera app or kernel for Xiaomi Mi5.
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Remember that Snapdragon 820 does support those shooting modes by default. Just need a modified/ported camera app or kernel for Xiaomi Mi5.[/I]
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Think it's a lot more complicated than that. The new Sony Xpera XZs can record up to 720p @ 960fps with a SD820 as it has a large cache size on the camera sensor itself.
I think it has to do around having a proper camera HAL capable of such recordings combined with a proper camera framework that is fast enough to store and process the captured frames.
Without proper source code it would be impossible. We barely just got working video mode in AOSP ROMs for instance. If the feature is added upstream in some other Xiaomi device (say, the Mi Mix 2) it would be easy to backport it to the Mi5.

Camera 2 Api for Cancro

It has been years already since this device is a top one and we all know it has a very good sensor on it's camera. But none of the developers has tried to involve into activating Camera 2 Api for it. ( Cancro on Snapdragon 800 )
My question is - what is needed to do so and how difficult is it? I used a ported Google Camera on Redmi 4X and the images where amazing! HDR+ is a performant thing for high end cameras. Why not activating it on Cancro as well? There are a lot of users with this device on hand.

9T pro Vs 8 pro

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Martin213 said:
Hi guys. I need an advise on wich phone to choose Mi 9T pro or Redmi note 8 pro. I'm not a heavy gamer. For me most important is camera,battery and community support (yes i know about 8 Pro Helio soc). Watched many videos in YouTube and still can't decide which device to choose. Seems both have a good camera's and decent battery life. Help me to choose ?
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My biggest influences was that I didn't want a notch or punch hole and wanted to ensure a decent level of custom ROM support.
It sounds like MTK are looking to be a bit more dev friendly, but personally I would want to see that happen first before considering an MTK device.
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Martin213 said:
What about camera between these two? I prefer better camera over notch/punch hole (i don't like those too) but community support Is most important for a long term usage...
Maybe i have to wait a bit longer and see what will happen with 8 Pro and development.
Thx
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The jury is out, with regards the camera. DXOmark didn't think it was anything special. There is a limit to how many pixels you can cram in such a tiny space and I reckon the Samsung ISOCELL chip had pushed things too far. It will be relying, too much, on post processing to remove the noise. Keeping around the 48MP range of the Sony and of their earlier ISOCELL sensor (so 12MP effective for most shots), with the larger sensor size could have given them a sweet spot.

Camera quality between K20 Pro and OP 7 Pro

I'm planning to buy a new phone with better custom ROM support, but confused between these two - K20 Pro and OnePlus 7 Pro. The price of both phones are at different extends.
So if the K20 Pro has better or comparable quality in the camera section against OP 7 Pro I would definitely go for K20 Pro and can save money for others. Please share your thoughts on this.
OP 7 pro has better camera, but K20 pro camera isn't not bad at all for day to day normal shots taking, if you're a camera guy then it's OP > K20
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The only real reason to get OP 7 Pro over K20 is for OIS. Makes a real difference during low light and while shooting video.
Wide-angle camera is also a little better and has manual focus. During day time, you won't get much difference cause both have same main sensor. GCam fixes most of the color inconsistencies for both phones.
If you plan on shooting at night time, I highly suggest you go for OnePlus. Even the 7T has OIS so that's a good middle ground [and has 2x zoom instead of 3x].
You shouldn't believe anything you read in the tech press about OnePlus phones--especially what you read on XDA.
OnePlus fired all of the programmers who created Oxygen after OnePlus Marshmallow and moved all coding to the Hydrogen team in China to save money.
Hydrogen was supposedly the Chinese ROM for OnePlus phones--but since OnePlus doesn't actually sell phones in China they were programming a ROM nobody used.
Since Oxygen Nougat coding on OnePlus phones has been completely inept--a fact that is widely known among developers and software engineers but not discussed on XDA.
The last OnePlus phone developers actually used was the OP3T--which was the last OnePlus phone released before the Oxygen programmers were fired.
All development for OnePlus phones is artificially sustained by OnePlus who gives free phones to developers since they would never spend their own money on OnePlus devices.
Since developers don't actually use OnePlus phones as their daily driver ROMs and kernels for OnePlus phones are compiled. These ROMs always have bugs--any build of any custom ROM for a OnePlus phone always has bugs even if it's supposedly stable.
Since OnePlus ROMs are compiled by developers who don't use the phones daily themselves multiple ROMs will often have the exact same bugs at the same time. Someone will post code to fix the bug on GitHub and if the code is approved all of the devs for the various ROMs will incorporate the same code into their own ROMs.
Usually developers of OnePlus custom ROMs don't know there are bugs in their "stable" ROMs until users report them and these bugs are sometimes serious enough to affect the basic functionality of the phone.
I personally used "stable" OnePlus custom ROMs that wouldn't boot up beyond the splash screen, where the ability to make or receive calls was broken, where Bluetooth, WiFi or GPS was broken, where opening the settings or trying to make a call would completely crash the UI--you get the idea--and this was all on ROMs that were labeled as stable.
Because the firmware on OnePlus phones is ineptly coded it's impossible to take decent pictures without using the ported Google Camera App--a $200 phone from Samsung or Xiaomi takes better pictures than a $700 OnePlus phone using the native OnePlus Camera app.
OnePlus phones are overpriced and ineptly coded--phones from Xiaomi and Honor are a much better value.
Don't read too much into the above post.
As far as hardware is concerned, there is not much difference between the 2, with the exception of OIS being added to the OP phone. Both have the same Sony sensor as the main module, but OP have slightly better secondary modules.
Software wise Xiaomi seem to be ahead of OP, in terms of computational photography. As I see it, Google and Huawei are way ahead, with Samsung third and probably Xiaomi 4th when it comes to computational photography.
So OP edge the camera hardware, but Xiaomi edge the camera software.
I also in confusion about these two phones.
Finally Op cancelled only for Headphone jack.
Better check both phones in gsmarena camera tool and check yourself
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Better check both phones in gsmarena camera tool and check yourself
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Already checked, viewed videos and read many articles. But I want to hear from real people besides reviews, that's why I'm asking.
- are the images great with the photos taken with GCam?
- does the EIS work with all three cameras? or with any camera?
- if the K20 Pro is compared to OnePlus 6T in camera how do you rate them?
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Already checked, viewed videos and read many articles. But I want to hear from real people besides reviews, that's why I'm asking.
- are the images great with the photos taken with GCam?
- does the EIS work with all three cameras? or with any camera?
- if the K20 Pro is compared to OnePlus 6T in camera how do you rate them?
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- GCam makes colors match up closely. Night mode is minorly better on the OP, but for a casual user it's not incredibly noticeable. Astrophotography is just as good as on any other phone. Main cameras are the same on both phones (48MP Sony), while wide angle is minorly better on the OP (imo, not enough of a quality difference to justify price difference)
- EIS works with main camera on both phones in GCam, OP has OIS on main camera as well. Neither phone can take wide angle video in gcam. OP can't take wide angle video in stock, K20 Pro can.
- K20 Pro is very significantly better than 6T. It matches with the OP 7 Pro much better.
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- GCam makes colors match up closely. Night mode is minorly better on the OP, but for a casual user it's not incredibly noticeable. Astrophotography is just as good as on any other phone. Main cameras are the same on both phones (48MP Sony), while wide angle is minorly better on the OP (imo, not enough of a quality difference to justify price difference)
- EIS works with main camera on both phones in GCam, OP has OIS on main camera as well. Neither phone can take wide angle video in gcam. OP can't take wide angle video in stock, K20 Pro can.
- K20 Pro is very significantly better than 6T. It matches with the OP 7 Pro much better.
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Thank you so much for the details mate. But unfortunately I'll be buying a pre-owned OnePlus 7T tomorrow. A deal is almost confirmed. I found a couple of things of 7T better for me than K20 Pro. The motorized pop-up camera is one I don't like in K20 Pro, and that's why I'm not even picking 7 Pro, which I can get in the same range. Also I love the 90Hzv display.
These things are too personal and I won't say that K20 Pro is not a good one. It's a great device and I should have brought earlier once but I didn't have money that time.
Anyways thanks again for the detailed information.
EDIT: Just dropped the deal because of unreliability.
I just use GCam and it's miles better than the stock op7

OPPO Find X5 Series - What is your first impression?

OPPO posted the first preview images of the Find X5 series on their socials. What is your first impression?
My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
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MariSilicon X is OPPO's self-developed imaging NPU + there's a cooperation with Hasselblad.. core feature will be photography I guess, but Hasselblad has its background in lenses. They showed this moving lenses at the INNO day, that's why I think photography will be the main thing, not videography.
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The only con is the loss of the Micro lens from the X3 Pro, which was, in my opinion, one of its coolest features. I'm also very curious about the Mediated 9000 performances and definitely the MariSiliconX processing.
Concerning the design, nothing very exciting so far, but the white version is the one that's catching my eyes.
I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
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My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
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Same for me, the partnership is what first blew my mind. I can't find comparison photos yet though.
Ceramic back in white is *chef's kiss*
thank you for sharing this information.
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I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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Depending on the specs you base the "competition" on. I think the only thing they have that is similar is their OS - both based on Android 12. Visually, Find X5 Pro is better, though it is subjective.
What were you comparing the devices on?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
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Don't forget the MariSilicon X NPU.
Unimpressed, to be honest. Bought the Find X5 and the display and camera are both less vibrant than my Fund X2 Neo. It also has terrible viewing angles. The screen has a greenish hue when angled slightoy. Edge lighting doesn’t work. As for the HDR on video playback, it’s barely noticeable. Really disappointed with it, to get honest.

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