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[Q] moto x camera controls for brightness and contrast

I need to be able to control the contrast and brightness of the images I take with the moto x camera. Sharpness would also be handy. The lack of controls on the built-in camera app is pretty appalling, very crude compared to the 3 year old HTC Incredible I have been using with it's native app. What has surprised me is that none of the apps I have downloaded to try will allow control of both contrast and brightness either, not to mention sharpness. Can someone enlighten as to why this is? Is normal access to the lower level sensor data not available for some reason? I don't get it. I am knowledgeable about digital image processing, but not that much about the needed android access to the sensor and the specifics for the moto x. Even the apps that advertised these adjustments for android phones did not offer controls for these functions on the moto X. If I have missed the obvious fix, I apologize and please point me in the right direction.
Thanks -

This could be the next moto cam.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427015

aviwdoowks said:
This could be the next moto cam.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427015
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I like the moto x camera the way it is picture quality and recording could be a little better but I don't want that lenovo crap.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda premium

Couldn't get Lenovo camera app to work. Downloaded the apk and tried installing both from adb window, and directly on my phone, and also downloaded the zip file and used my recovery to install that. IN all cases, "Unfortunately, Lenovo SNAPit and SEEit has stopped." is the result.
As far as the native app goes, I use my phone to take pictures of blackboards and white boards all the time, and need to be able to adjust the bias and gain of the sensor basically, commonly called brightness and contrast. The lenovo app doesn't seem to work on Moto X. Any other recommendations? Or has anyone else successfully used it on the moto x?

I've been successful in controlling "brightness" simply by manually controlling the focus and exposure.

nhizzat said:
I've been successful in controlling "brightness" simply by manually controlling the focus and exposure.
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yes, it works reasonably for that, but on a blackboard that has chalk over a previously erased board, without great lighting, it really helps to have contrast control as well. It's not that hard to do, and between brightness and contrast controls it's pretty easy to get a good exposure. I'm really surprised there is nothing out there to do that, and it makes me think that there is something about the moto x that underlying it all. Thus my post. That would explain why those controls on apps that advertise them are missing when loaded onto the moto x.

Mine too!! I only last used it on 422 a week ago!!
Sorry. Great cam.

dmm108 said:
yes, it works reasonably for that, but on a blackboard that has chalk over a previously erased board, without great lighting, it really helps to have contrast control as well. It's not that hard to do, and between brightness and contrast controls it's pretty easy to get a good exposure. I'm really surprised there is nothing out there to do that, and it makes me think that there is something about the moto x that underlying it all. Thus my post. That would explain why those controls on apps that advertise them are missing when loaded onto the moto x.
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Brightness/Contrast are adjusted after the shot, not before. This is easily done with any photo editor app.
What you're looking for is exposure compensation & ISO settings.....both of which are available on all of the 3rd party cameras I've downloaded. I like the Moto Camera because of the twist-to-launch gesture....but the camera is severely lacking in options. I keep the app Focal on my phone as well when I need to compose a specific shot.....but if I really wanna tinker I'll just forget crappy cell-phone cameras & pull out the DSLR.

Arak-Nafein said:
Brightness/Contrast are adjusted after the shot, not before. This is easily done with any photo editor app.
What you're looking for is exposure compensation & ISO settings.....both of which are available on all of the 3rd party cameras I've downloaded. I like the Moto Camera because of the twist-to-launch gesture....but the camera is severely lacking in options. I keep the app Focal on my phone as well when I need to compose a specific shot.....but if I really wanna tinker I'll just forget crappy cell-phone cameras & pull out the DSLR.
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Actually I'm trying to avoid the extra step of post processing the photos in my computer. My old HTC Incredible had controls for brightness, contrast, and sharpening, and it was handy to just set it for the lighting conditions and be done. Doesn't seem like that much to ask for, since it was part of the default controls years ago. Simple image processing transformations and look-up table manipulation.

dmm108 said:
Actually I'm trying to avoid the extra step of post processing the photos in my computer. My old HTC Incredible had controls for brightness, contrast, and sharpening, and it was handy to just set it for the lighting conditions and be done. Doesn't seem like that much to ask for, since it was part of the default controls years ago. Simple image processing transformations and look-up table manipulation.
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Well, that was probably some HTC software that gave you those settings. BTW most gallery apps have the ability to do minor editing like adjusting brightness & contrast.
What I'm trying to tell you is that you're looking for the wrong words. Look for ISO & exposure compensation instead. Contrast isn't simply "adjusted" in a camera....it depends on your lighting & exposure....so any "contrast" setting you were adjusting on the HTC was basically a filter. Same for "brightness".
If you want to make your photo brighter, set your ISO higher or up your exposure compensation....both settings easily adjusted on 3rd party camera apps. I can't say that I've ever used a camera app with "brightness" and "contrast" settings before taking a picture. Those are always adjusted after-the-fact.

^^^ this

Arak-Nafein said:
Well, that was probably some HTC software that gave you those settings. BTW most gallery apps have the ability to do minor editing like adjusting brightness & contrast.
What I'm trying to tell you is that you're looking for the wrong words. Look for ISO & exposure compensation instead. Contrast isn't simply "adjusted" in a camera....it depends on your lighting & exposure....so any "contrast" setting you were adjusting on the HTC was basically a filter. Same for "brightness".
If you want to make your photo brighter, set your ISO higher or up your exposure compensation....both settings easily adjusted on 3rd party camera apps. I can't say that I've ever used a camera app with "brightness" and "contrast" settings before taking a picture. Those are always adjusted after-the-fact.
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"They are always adjusted afterwards" specifically because you never had a camera where that adjustment was possible before taking the picture, and you never had the need for it. So of course they were always adjusted afterwards.
I'm not using the wrong words. I simply want my camera app to give me control over contrast, and sharpness if possible. I never said I couldn't control brightness, and I understand what ISO and exposure controls do. I am a computer engineer with many years of experience in digital imaging. I know of what I speak, but more to the point, I know of what I want. If you can point me to an app that does that, great. Otherwise we can just agree to disagree about what you and I think I need. . If you can give me insight on a low level as to moto x's access to sensor data that might explain why camera apps that have this functionality on other platforms don't on the moto x, which would inform me writing my own controls, that would be even better.

dmm108 said:
"They are always adjusted afterwards" specifically because you never had a camera where that adjustment was possible before taking the picture, and you never had the need for it. So of course they were always adjusted afterwards.
I'm not using the wrong words. I simply want my camera app to give me control over contrast, and sharpness if possible. I never said I couldn't control brightness, and I understand what ISO and exposure controls do. I am a computer engineer with many years of experience in digital imaging. I know of what I speak, but more to the point, I know of what I want. If you can point me to an app that does that, great. Otherwise we can just agree to disagree about what you and I think I need. . If you can give me insight on a low level as to moto x's access to sensor data that might explain why camera apps that have this functionality on other platforms don't on the moto x, which would inform me writing my own controls, that would be even better.
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I came off as condescending, my apologies.
I dunno man, the only thing I can think of even close to what you're talking about is maybe Paper camera? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.papercamera
I know it's silly, but you mentioned chalkboards & perhaps one of the silly filters will allow you to capture what you need? There's a brightness & contrast slider, it's all realtime adjustments.
Beyond that, I do not know. Good luck on your search! If you find something let us know because I'm interested to see how this pans out!

Arak-Nafein said:
I came off as condescending, my apologies.
I dunno man, the only thing I can think of even close to what you're talking about is maybe Paper camera? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.papercamera
I know it's silly, but you mentioned chalkboards & perhaps one of the silly filters will allow you to capture what you need? There's a brightness & contrast slider, it's all realtime adjustments.
Beyond that, I do not know. Good luck on your search! If you find something let us know because I'm interested to see how this pans out!
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no apology needed, I appreciate the exchange - and if I find something pertinent, either an app, or some information about moto x specific barrier I'll pass it on.

dmm108 said:
no apology needed, I appreciate the exchange - and if I find something pertinent, either an app, or some information about moto x specific barrier I'll pass it on.
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Are you using ART? I am and the fv-5 is not compatible.

aviwdoowks said:
Are you using ART? I am and the fv-5 is not compatible.
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FV-5 did have contrast, brightness and sharpness control on one screen, but initially I had much trouble with it on the Moto-X. Basically I could not find a way to get solid confirmation of how many pictures I actually took. Sometimes I'd think I took several to find out I had one or two, and sometimes I had multiples. I did email the deveoper. I downloaded it again after your post, and it seems to be working as designed now. I wish the contrast/sharpness menu was not so buried in the menu tree and that I could choose it to be one of the on screen icons.
I'm not familiar with ART, so maybe you could explain that to me.

dmm108 said:
FV-5 did have contrast, brightness and sharpness control on one screen, but initially I had much trouble with it on the Moto-X. Basically I could not find a way to get solid confirmation of how many pictures I actually took. Sometimes I'd think I took several to find out I had one or two, and sometimes I had multiples. I did email the deveoper. I downloaded it again after your post, and it seems to be working as designed now. I wish the contrast/sharpness menu was not so buried in the menu tree and that I could choose it to be one of the on screen icons.
I'm not familiar with ART, so maybe you could explain that to me.
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I just posted about it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51782126#post51782126
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589530
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So you must be on dalvik.

aviwdoowks said:
I just posted about it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51782126#post51782126
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589530
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So you must be on dalvik.
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I have been, so I just turned on ART, and I'll let you know after a while the effects, but I'll switch over to your above thread so we can maintain the topic of this one.

[Android 5.0+] Bacon Camera

​Finally it's here! I'm so exited to open this thread
As I promised, I've worked very hard to give you the best camera experience, now it's ready (almost xD)
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Today I present you Bacon Camera, the first camera app optimized for the OnePlus One!
It includes all features of my previous project with many other additions, bug fixes and a brand new UI for manual controls!
And it's on Google PlayStore too!
Bacon Camera now officially support LG G3 running Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Standard version
DEMO version​
First Camera app with almost full manual controls for OnePlus One and LG G3 (running stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow)
With Bacon Camera you will be able to see how powerful is your camera module, optimized with all possible features! (Without Lollipop Camera2 APIs, of course)
Manual Controls supported for OnePlus One are:
- Full Manual Focus
- Full Manual White Balance
- Full Manual Exposure Compensation
- Semi-Manual ISO speed
- Full Manual Exposure Time (up to 64sec!)
- Bayer RAW and DNG support
Manual Controls supported for LG G3 (>= Android 6.0 Marshmallow) are:
- Full Manual Focus
- Full Manual Exposure Compensation
- Semi-Manual ISO speed
- Bayer RAW and DNG support
*** (Only LG G3) Support for Laser Focus and DSLR Advanced Features: UbiFocus, ChromaFlash, OptiZoom ***
*** (OnePlus One) Support to ClearImage and 50Mpx shot. ***
A new exlusive algorithm tells you the distance between the camera and manual-focused objects.
Many other improvements and tweeks makes this app unique and perfect in any conditions!
Bacon Camera is designed for stock OnePlus One firmware (CyanogenOS 12.1), however people with custom ROMs can use it too but sometimes with some limitation (according to the driver inside your ROM), and LG G3 running stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
Since this app is still in beta state there are still some know bugs
- Sometimes the app can crash or freeze (in any case clear camera from recent apps).
- RAW format and slow shutter speed (> 2sec) causes a freeze. Reboot the phone -Camera Driver issue, only manufacturer can fix this-
- Flash needs "Zero Shutter Lag" always to be ON (Only OnePlus One)
- Video in HSR works only with a CAF based ROM (not the stock one)
For any question/bug report, or if you want to have a support to other divices, please refer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/themes-apps/camera-bacon-camera-t3253278
Enjoy
Open Source Licenses:
https://github.com/sultanxda/android_packages_apps_SnapdragonCamera/
https://github.com/troop/FreeDcam
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If you are on stock CyanogenOS 12.1 you can still use my patched media_profile.xml to have a better video quality and replace the original file in "/system/etc/" folder (do a backup first).
As I wrote in the description, this app is designed for OPO with Cyanogen OS 12.1, but it will works also on stock CM or CM based on CAF (with some limitation: shutter speed up to 2sec, and no ClearImage, HD or SuperMacro)
That's all guys, hope you enjoy it! And of course leave a good PlayStore review
Before you ask: Yes the app itself is not free.. but consider this as a small support to an 18-years old student that want just follow his dreams :fingers-crossed:
When I will find the time I will make two different versions, anyway are just few Euro so, Really Thank you for Understanding
All features (manual focus included) not require any modded/patched HAL, just stock one.
As always don't forget to report bugs and/or what you want to be implemented, I will do my best to continue to improve this experience
Current To-Do-List is:
- Triaxial Leveling
- Photosphere (harder than imagined)​
OPO - CM13 Nightlies High Res image fix
According to new Cyanogen's decisions 50/32/24mpx image interpolation will not be available on stock CM13 Nightlies, I've prepared a temporary fix for this while waiting official CyanogenOS 13 for the OnePlus One:
- Flash HIGH_RES_TEMP_FIX_CM13.zip via recovery
- Reboot, and enjoy
No need to do a backup because if something goes wrong or you simply want revert this just flash the same ZIP.

fgnm said:
Finally it's here! I'm so exited to open this thread
As I promised, I've worked very hard to give you the best camera experience, now it's ready (almost xD)
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Can't wait to try on OxygenOS.
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Play Store says the app is incompatible with my device.

pbergonzi said:
Can't wait to try on OxygenOS.
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Play Store says the app is incompatible with my device.
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Ops, first app on play store, my bad
Oxygen OS for OPO is based on android 5.0.2, I'm uploading new version with a smaller minSdk (current is 5.1), sorry.
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Just pushed a new small update.. Please wait while google refresh new spec

so sad that i'm in china and i cant fetch google server in my country
good work and wish you good luck~

fgnm said:
Finally it's here! I'm so exited to open this thread
As I promised, I've worked very hard to give you the best camera experience, now it's ready (almost xD)
Today I present you Bacon Camera, the first camera app optimized for the OnePlus One!
It includes all features of my previous project with many other additions, bug fixes and a brand new UI for manual controls!
And it's on Google PlayStore too, get it now!
If you are on stock CyanogenOS 12.1 you can still use my patched media_profile.xml to have a better video quality and replace the original file in "/system/etc/" folder (do a backup first).
As I wrote in the description, this app is designed for OPO with Cyanogen OS 12.1, but it will works also on stock CM or CM based on CAF (with some limitation: shutter speed up to 2sec, and no ClearImage, HD or SuperMacro)
That's all guys, hope you enjoy it! And of course leave a good PlayStore review
Before you ask: Yes the app itself is not free.. but consider this as a small support to an 18-years old student that want just follow his dreams :fingers-crossed:
When I will find the time I will make two different versions, anyway are just few Euro so, Really Thank you for Understanding
All features (manual focus included) not require any modded/patched HAL, just stock one.
As always don't forget to report bugs and/or what you want to be implemented, I will do my best to continue to improve this experience
Current To-Do-List is:
- Triaxial Leveling
- Tap to Shot
- Photosphere (harder than imagined)​
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Great to see, but XDA has a rule about paid apps.. You really need to look into the rules to keep this thread open..

Setting.Out said:
Great to see, but XDA has a rule about paid apps.. You really need to look into the rules to keep this thread open..
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Again my bad, apologize me. I should post this thread in "Paid Software Announcement and Discussion " right?
Sorry again, please can some moderators change it to correct section, or I've to close this and open a new one?

What are the main differences between your app and camera fv5? I have paid for camera fv5 and would like to know the features which are better in this app.
Sent from Bacon (Oneplus One)

fgnm said:
Ops, first app on play store, my bad
Oxygen OS for OPO is based on android 5.0.2, I'm uploading new version with a smaller minSdk (current is 5.1), sorry.
EDIT:
Just pushed a new small update.. Please wait while google refresh new spec
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Got it--thanks!
Not only was I the first post after the OP, but I was probably the first purchaser!

Nice to see another camera for our OPO
Just bought it and while making a little test, found a few bugs , I'll have more time tomorrow to test it outdoors and give more feedback then.
bug1: Preview a pic, zoom in and press back. Can only see half of the UI (can't take a screenshot for some reason), the other half is black. It's like the UI moved to the right.
bug2: I have automatic upload to my pc. and some pictures were uploaded in landscape. I took them in portrait while the OPO was on a dock. Don't know what I did, so I'll try to reproduce it tomorrow
bug3: RAW enabled and no dng file after taking a shot, or I can't find it
Can't find super macro as mentioned in description.
Volume keys (blue bar) do exactly what? just curious.
Loved the manual focus and slow shutter didn't worked for me.
Nice work so far
I'm on Resurrection Remix rom btw.

Has it got api 2??
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alijoregon said:
Has it got api 2??
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Have the courtesy to read the original post.

paulissimo said:
Nice to see another camera for our OPO
Just bought it and while making a little test, found a few bugs , I'll have more time tomorrow to test it outdoors and give more feedback then.
bug1: Preview a pic, zoom in and press back. Can only see half of the UI (can't take a screenshot for some reason), the other half is black. It's like the UI moved to the right.
bug2: I have automatic upload to my pc. and some pictures were uploaded in landscape. I took them in portrait while the OPO was on a dock. Don't know what I did, so I'll try to reproduce it tomorrow
bug3: RAW enabled and no dng file after taking a shot, or I can't find it
Can't find super macro as mentioned in description.
Volume keys (blue bar) do exactly what? just curious.
Loved the manual focus and slow shutter didn't worked for me.
Nice work so far
I'm on Resurrection Remix rom btw.
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Thanks for your report
First one is a bug, for the second one I've never had this kind of issue I'll wait other impression. The third is not a bug simply you have to set RAW format manually so set picture format to any Bayer and then switch "save DNG raw", BTW I've just realized that maybe this is not the perfect name for this function because this is the conversion from .raw file into a .dng (.raw files are real raw with Qualcomm encoding). technically you can manually convert Bayer in whatever you want.
Super macro is activated by default when you use the zoom
It's strange that slow shutter doesn't work.. Are you sure that your ROM is based on a CM build?
I personally tested all functions with stock COS and base CM 12.1
Abhinav_Rakesh said:
What are the main differences between your app and camera fv5? I have paid for camera fv5 and would like to know the features which are better in this app.
Sent from Bacon (Oneplus One)
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Camera FV5 is a great app too but it lacks in full manual controls.. The only one supported is manual shutter speed, instead with this camera you can control all manual settings a side for ISO speed that is locked in the HAL driver

pbergonzi said:
Have the courtesy to read the original post.
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Sorry... I read more and less the post... I will buy it! Thanks for your work
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fgnm said:
Thanks for your report
First one is a bug, for the second one I've never had this kind of issue I'll wait other impression. The third is not a bug simply you have to set RAW format manually so set picture format to any Bayer and then switch "save DNG raw", BTW I've just realized that maybe this is not the perfect name for this function because this is the conversion from .raw file into a .dng (.raw files are real raw with Qualcomm encoding). technically you can manually convert Bayer in whatever you want.
Super macro is activated by default when you use the zoom
It's strange that slow shutter doesn't work.. Are you sure that your ROM is based on a CM build?
I personally tested all functions with stock COS and base CM 12.1
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When I change to Bayer, I get this message "Raw picture format is not supported in zls mode, change to jpeg"
Oh, just found it, needs Zero Shutter Lag disabled to work.
Noticed that it saves 2 files, a .raw (16.71MB) and .dng (24.76MB). Why save 2 big files? Dng would be enough for me
Is it possible to save a jpeg too? So we can have a preview of the photo. I'm only able to open the dng file on Lightroom in my pc. The Lightroom app version won't open it.
Thought there was an option for super macro, like clear image and HD, forgot the zoom ^^
I'll test slow shutter better when I have a chance.
My roms xda link

First app I ever bought! Make it count, and good work!
EDIT: bug found (i'm using sultanxda's 5.1.1 CAF ROM) changing the shutter speed does nothing, even setting to auto does nothing, it always take the photo with the highest shutter speed making the photo almost pitch black

Just pushed a new update to solve the bug reported by @paulissimo with some other improvements especially for slow shutter speed, It will be available in a few hours.
@tigobrata CAF ROMs has always some problems with slow shutter speed because it's limited only up to 2sec, if you are on CAF is better to use "accurate shutter speed" by pressing the "ms" button under Exposure time slider
P.S.
I'm really fighting to keep this app online.. First Google, then yesterday a cracker tried to brake my Google Play dev account.. 30sec more and I would have lost everything.. Someone from Yemen.. I've his phone number now

fgnm said:
Just pushed a new update to solve the bug reported by @paulissimo with some other improvements especially for slow shutter speed, It will be available in a few hours.
@tigobrata CAF ROMs has always some problems with slow shutter speed because it's limited only up to 2sec, if you are on CAF is better to use "accurate shutter speed" by pressing the "ms" button under Exposure time slider
P.S.
I'm really fighting to keep this app online.. First Google, then yesterday a cracker tried to brake my Google Play dev account.. 30sec more and I would have lost everything.. Someone from Yemen.. I've his phone number now
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Just updated it t v0.2.
No UI bug now.
Slowshutter is working fine here, I'll try it again later at night.
Did you changed anything about Raw/Dng? There's an option to convert Raw to Dng, which is nice, but I suggest deleting the. raw file if this option is enabled.
Another sugestion, if possible, is to create a jpeg along with the raw/dng. We could preview it and delet it in case the picture is bad (out of focus or something). As it is we can't see the picture and have to wait till I get home to see it on my PC.
Also latest version of snapseed suports raw editing but only works if you have a jpeg file too.
I'll keep you posted if anything comes up, keep up the good work. :good:
Damn hackers, probably a lazy kid who as nothing else better to do.

paulissimo said:
Just updated it t v0.2.
No UI bug now.
Slowshutter is working fine here, I'll try it again later at night.
Did you changed anything about Raw/Dng? There's an option to convert Raw to Dng, which is nice, but I suggest deleting the. raw file if this option is enabled.
Another sugestion, if possible, is to create a jpeg along with the raw/dng. We could preview it and delet it in case the picture is bad (out of focus or something). As it is we can't see the picture and have to wait till I get home to see it on my PC.
Also latest version of snapseed suports raw editing but only works if you have a jpeg file too.
I'll keep you posted if anything comes up, keep up the good work. :good:
Damn hackers, probably a lazy kid who as nothing else better to do.
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Yes it's possible to have a jpeg with DNG but it's a bit harder, I haven't done yet because there is still something strange in RAW capturing.. For example if you shot a picture in any Bayer format without enable DNG conversion and with Zero Shutter Lag to ON the .raw generated is around 6MB and can be viewed in gallery and tuned in Lightroom for mobile, instead if you shot without zero shutter lag with some Bayer you will have a .raw that cannot be viewed even on PC, but has to be converted in DNG , also the result is different but I can't say which is better
Anyway I noticed that Bayer + Zero Shutter Lag + Clear Image/High Resolution works!
Tell me what do you think

fgnm said:
Yes it's possible to have a jpeg with DNG but it's a bit harder, I haven't done yet because there is still something strange in RAW capturing.. For example if you shot a picture in any Bayer format without enable DNG conversion and with Zero Shutter Lag to ON the .raw generated is around 6MB and can be viewed in gallery and tuned in Lightroom for mobile, instead if you shot without zero shutter lag with some Bayer you will have a .raw that cannot be viewed even on PC, but has to be converted in DNG , also the result is different but I can't say which is better
Anyway I noticed that Bayer + Zero Shutter Lag + Clear Image/High Resolution works!
Tell me what do you think
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Still hope that you can add the jpeg in a near future.
A 25MB DNG should be better then a 6MB RAW, but I haven't tried opening the 6MB one to compare. I'll try your sugestion.
Another sugestion: an option to restore all values to default. After messing around with the app, I can't remember all the default values

Trial version is enough for me, I hope you'll support it as the main versione. Thank you so much for your work!
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Making long exposure photos at daylight

Hi guys,
on my trip to Ireland I missed a nice feature of my old Huawei P10 where I can set a mode for long exposure photography at daylight to make water look smooth (for example). Huawei made an extra mode for this including light burst and other nice features.
On the S10 I'm missing such a thing.
With the pro mode I can set the exposure time but the photos are getting way to bright.
Does someone know how to make such long exposure pictures with the S10?
Greetings,
Jannomag

@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.

AHE_XDA said:
@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.
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As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.

Jannomag said:
As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.
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I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM

AHE_XDA said:
I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM
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On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.

Jannomag said:
On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.
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Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need

pchetan2 said:
Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need
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I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work

Jannomag said:
I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work
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Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.

redsmith said:
Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.
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With f2.4 it's even e bit brighter. Also with RAW it's too bright to get back every part of the image. Some parts are completely white.
It's sad that there's no different app or that Samsung doesn't support those nice features. I used them often on my holiday trips. Also the light trail feature is quiet nice because sometimes the picture gets also too bright when shooting in cities with near street lamps.
nvm...I have to deal with it, it's sad for a 800€ phone but everything else is good.

You have to use ND filter to achieve the long exposure shot during daylight.

You're literally asking for something that doesn't work without an ND filter.
The whole point of LONG EXPOSURE is literally in the name.
You can't get "long exposure" without exposing the sensor to more and more light the longer the shutter is open.
Whatever huawei was doing isn't real long exposure during daylight because that is impossible without an ND filter over the lens.

The p20 uses software to average multiple expdures so you could so it in bright daylight. It worked really well and wish I had something similar on my s20

Fully stable Google Camera Mod version 6.2.x

Guys, I have wasted a lot of time finding the perfect camera to bring out the juice of redmi 5.
And now, I have came up with this.
Note:[important]
This camera mod is supported only in Pixel Experience pie normal edition's latest version with the stock pe pie kernel.
##read the full op before download.
As usual, the mod credit goes to (Arnova). i just found the trick, that's all. He created the files,not me.
(THESE ARE FOR PE RUNNING ANDROID PIE 9.0 ONLY. ANY OTHER VERSION WILL CAUSE PARSE ERROR ON INSTALLATION.)
Steps:
1.download the "install this first" (size around 30 mb) file. install and open it. give permissions and then exit.
2.Then download the "after configuration,install .."file.(size around 142 mb.)
then install it.
results:
1.the front camera works like charm.
u guys don't have to keep hdr+ off anymore.
hdr+, hdr+ enhanced, raw, portrait,night sight... everything works on front camera.
2.Back camera has some lag,,but gets normal if shooting in good lighting conditions. again, all the functions work.
slow motion shows and works, but the videos get very bad resolution.try installation of open camera to shoot the hell out of rosy.
It has google AWB implementation. highlight balance is just great. will provide photo samples below.
How it happened?:
i don't know.
Ask the devs how can a custom apk can be updated?
the first file was v5.2.x
the second file was 6.2.x and optimized for razer phone 2.
these both got merged and final size takes 142 mb of system memory. App takes time to launch.
important(2):
settings(must) to reduce lag:
1.turn off the auto focus data showing up on screen.
2.revert every function to google defaults.
3.follow screenshots.
Reply if u guys need to know anything more..
Nice to help u all.
https://mega.nz/#F!frAy2CCD!DTa31p1NsGUzJcNzn4iOyw

2 night sight samples.
1 daylight sample.

screenshots of suggested settings.

Thank you OP! Can confirm that Night Sight works perfectly; I have been getting 1/6s exposures with the app. However the same autofocus issue still remains.

Can i install for cusrom evolution X?? Answer please

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2 night sight samples.
1 daylight sample.
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Can you please update the link? It's not working.. and I need gcam for my pixel experience

Of course.
Sorry bro, i was busy in my exams

https://mega.nz/folder/frAy2CCD#DTa31p1NsGUzJcNzn4iOyw.

I can't install "after configuration,install.apk"

Looks like link is expired. Did you have a backup at your phone or somewhere else?

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persist.camera.switch.aux=unknown

What is purpose of this prop? It appeared after android 10 update. I could not find any information about it but I cannot use second rear camera with any third party apps. I tried changing camera.aux.packagelist, vendor.camera.aux.packagelist, persist.vendor.camera.expose.aux, I also added persist.camera.expose.aux but apps still can't detect second rear camera. Does anyone know values of prop in the title?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: persist.vendor.camera.switch.aux=unknown

If you want to use the second cam on the rear you need different things:
1. A gcam that can switch between cams like the latest The_Dise version here: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-the_dise/#apk1549
2. You also need the Magisk module to enable the auxiliary buttons. You can download this from within The_Dise's gcam or from here directly: https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/dmgcaux_v1.zip
3. You need a ROM that can handle it. It didn't work on stock for me, but on Pixel Experience it works.
All and all it was not worth the trouble in my opinion, but I just wanted to test it. I think it has more purpose for the higher end phones with more different cams on their back.