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manual focus?

Are there any apps, hacks or mods that would enable manual focusing for our Note 3?
This morning I wanted to take some video from inside my office building of the inclement weather outside, unfortunately the phone kept focusing on the raindrops on the windoe instead of the target subject matter through the window.
Touch focus did the same things. A manual focus option would've taken care of that situation.

Namuna said:
Are there any apps, hacks or mods that would enable manual focusing for our Note 3?
This morning I wanted to take some video from inside my office building of the inclement weather outside, unfortunately the phone kept focusing on the raindrops on the windoe instead of the target subject matter through the window.
Touch focus did the same things. A manual focus option would've taken care of that situation.
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Did you or anyone else find an app for this? A manual focus option could definitely be useful at times

I am also looking for a focus override. The viewer shows that it can focus a clear photo but then goes out of focus. I've tried about 6 camera apps (Google, Lenovo SnapIt etc), and none of them solve the problem.
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Namuna said:
Are there any apps, hacks or mods that would enable manual focusing for our Note 3?
This morning I wanted to take some video from inside my office building of the inclement weather outside, unfortunately the phone kept focusing on the raindrops on the windoe instead of the target subject matter through the window.
Touch focus did the same things. A manual focus option would've taken care of that situation.
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wudien said:
I am also looking for a focus override. The viewer shows that it can focus a clear photo but then goes out of focus. I've tried about 6 camera apps (Google, Lenovo SnapIt etc), and none of them solve the problem.
Sent from my SM-N900A using XDA Free mobile app
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"Yours could be a hardware issue" they say, however, this issue was created by an inflexible system, autofocus stops us from playing with different planes...
There's no need to be a professional photographer to be aware of the restrictions that imposes an autofocus. I'd love to shift manually the focus however I like.
What's missing is someone who would have the knowledge and the interest of doing it.

For video, you just touch a few seconds the subject you want to keep in focus (while recording) and it will remain in focus, regardless of your camera's x/y movement, until you touch another area.
(a small "AF" symbol should appear on screen, which you should touch if you want to go auto focus again)

[Q] RAW photos in Z3 with Android 5.0

It's really good to hear the Z3 models will get Android 5.0 sometime in the beginning of next year. As you might have read, Android 5.0 supports RAW image capture (in the API).
What I'm trying to figure out is if the Z3 will be able to utilize the RAW image capture functionality in the new Android.
I have written an "app" that prints all the possible camera settings to screen, and unfortunately there is no setting mentioning RAW. The only valid picture setting is 'jpeg'.
Maybe this will change in a future version? Or will A5 take RAW regardless of the capabilities in the camera settings?
Thanks!

Very inyereting . can't wait to see how this unveils

This article should answer the question: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3

Doesn't this effectively mean that Lollipop (and new camera apps, utilizing Lollipops camera API) will solve most of the issues caused by unlocking the bootloader?
If third-party apps can access RAW from the camera, quality on par with, or even beyond, the stock camera-app on locked phones should be able to achieve.
I mean, degraded camera performance seems to be the most discussed problem with loosing the DRM keys. I for one wouldn't mind loosing Miracast and Sony services.

Yes and no. Third party software could do better in theory, but the sensor output still stays the same. Software can't perform miracles. And Sony's software already is quite advanced (whatever causes automatic mode to fail so badly is beyond me).

radicans said:
What I'm trying to figure out is if the Z3 will be able to utilize the RAW image capture functionality in the new Android.
I have written an "app" that prints all the possible camera settings to screen, and unfortunately there is no setting mentioning RAW. The only valid picture setting is 'jpeg'.
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RAW isn't a sensor setting, it is a data encoding. The only "mandatory" difference between shooting "RAW" and "JPEG" in Android L is the binary format of the data you get back. RAW makes it possible to return *lots* of information about what's coming off the sensor, but it doesn't mandate it. For example, if Sony's proprietary software is using the white channel in the Exmor RS to get low-light performance (and no one knows for sure if it is), there's no guarantee they'll choose to include that in the RAW file. They could discard the W data (since only Sony's software really understands what to do with it) and give you back just the RGB.
Now, the ability to get back uncompressed (or losslessly compressed) data means 3rd party image post processing can do a better job with less artifacts. And the ability to request burst captures opens up the possibility of temporal noise reduction techniques. But we're probably a year or more away from having stable apps doing really interesting things with the new APIs.
Bottom line, if you must have root and camera quality is really important to you, do not buy a Z3C just on the "hope" that Android L will provide an adequate work-around.

Iruwen said:
This article should answer the question: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3
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Thanks for the informative article!
I have a slightly better image (!) of what is going on with the new API now. Although, it still leaves me uncertain about the RAW mode in the Z3. Quoting from the article:
"in effect it’s now possible to control shutter speed, ISO, focus, flash, white balance manually, along with options to control exposure level bias, exposure metering algorithms, and also select the capture format. This means that the images can be output as JPEG, YUV, RAW/DNG, or any other format that is supported."
Seeing as there is nothing in the current camera preferences indicating that RAW capture is allowed/supported, I guess we just have to wait and see.
Assuming though we will get RAW support, there will be quite some development work to get a decent noise free image, in phone, just working straight from the Bayer pattern! But if that is the only way to circumvent the sony processing algorithms, then so be it!

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RAW isn't a sensor setting, it is a data encoding. The only "mandatory" difference between shooting "RAW" and "JPEG" in Android L is the binary format of the data you get back. RAW makes it possible to return *lots* of information about what's coming off the sensor, but it doesn't mandate it. For example, if Sony's proprietary software is using the white channel in the Exmor RS to get low-light performance (and no one knows for sure if it is), there's no guarantee they'll choose to include that in the RAW file. They could discard the W data (since only Sony's software really understands what to do with it) and give you back just the RGB.
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Thanks for the info, although I do know what RAW is What I was trying to point out is that there is nothing in the current camera parameters (in the API) indicating that we are allowed to ask for a RAW image, when taking a photo. So even if Android 5 supports RAW requests, I think the sony camera driver may still refuse to deliver one to us.
But what confuses me is that in Android 4 Camera API, you are also allowed to ask for a RAW image (not meaning you are guaranteed to get one), so in this respect I don't know what the difference is to Android 5.

radicans said:
But what confuses me is that in Android 4 Camera API, you are also allowed to ask for a RAW image (not meaning you are guaranteed to get one), so in this respect I don't know what the difference is to Android 5.
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You can get a raw image with m8 or G2 or any other devices that permits it See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753946
As for further manual controls all are avialable except raw on the hybrid samsung zoom devices. There was no need for L there i don't know why vendors do not implement it more with their current flagship models.

shooting in raw gives severe vignetting ?

i send a raw dng to lightroom and only the very center part of the image is properly exposed ?

I saw this in several other examples of 40mp shots. Seems inevitable with that many pixels in such a small sensor, likely can be remedied to a reasonable extent in Lightroom or similar. I don't know what people are expecting from 40mp shots here, it's obvious they'll be significantly compromised?

Raw is raw, so no preprocessing to remove the vignetting has been done. Create a lens profile in your favourite Raw converter or wait untill someone else did that job.
The raw benefits are there to reap, THANKS Huawei.
Ender

This was shot in 10mp mode (or is raw always 40mp ?)
I've locate other raws on the net that has the same effect.
at http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/huawei_p20_pro_review/sample_images/
It's not only that everything becomes darker at the edges, there is also a blue/green color cast.
This would make shooting in raw a real nightmare ?

enderffx said:
Raw is raw, so no preprocessing to remove the vignetting has been done. Create a lens profile in your favourite Raw converter or wait untill someone else did that job.
The raw benefits are there to reap, THANKS Huawei.
Ender
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Ok thanks for the reply , i understand that raw is supposed to be unprocessed sensor data , but i never considered that the exposure changes from center to edge of lense would be that bad.
I still hope that it has something to do with the multiple lenses , and maybe the data from one of the lenses is not properly processed in raw.
I had some similar trouble with the super ccd Fujifilm S3 Pro.

Hi,
no, itj just vignetting, something existing even on $10k lenses, just not as obvious.
Its all good & perfect, if you cannot create a lens profile for yourself, try Automatic or wait until someone in-the-know did so.
Ender

Vignetting is strong, but the biggest problem is the severe green tint around the centre and the purple tint in the middle of the image, it takes additional steps to fix this. Fixing vignetting is pretty easy, however, you will just increase the noise.
The problem is the small lens. You have to cover bigger sensor and you need bigger elements for that. Also, the lens is of pretty bad quality, quite soft, especially when you are not looking in the centre of the image.

I hope people understand what it actually mean to shoot in RAW :silly:

otonieru said:
I hope people understand what it actually mean to shoot in RAW :silly:
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Yes i know what raw file's are.
And you can only spot these lens imperfections using the raw file , since they are corrected away in the the processed jpg files.
Hence the title of the topic.
The P20 pro is the first time i'm peeking at raw files on such a tiny sensor/lens device. My other lenses are a bit more uniform across the image, so that surprised me a bit.
Makes me appreciate the auto jpg's on this phone a bit more, they already do a lot of work.
So far i am really in love with the night shot and silky water modes.

bk227865 said:
Yes i know what raw file's are.
And you can only spot these lens imperfections using the raw file , since they are corrected away in the the processed jpg files.
Hence the title of the topic.
The P20 pro is the first time i'm peeking at raw files on such a tiny sensor/lens device. My other lenses are a bit more uniform across the image, so that surprised me a bit.
Makes me appreciate the auto jpg's on this phone a bit more, they already do a lot of work.
So far i am really in love with the night shot and silky water modes.
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If we are into technical specification, its due to the larger sensor used in P20 Pro, its harder to provide even light/brightness when sensor size used is larger. Corner will have less brightness and sharpness.
Its like trying to cover a square piece of paper area using a bottom of our drinking glass. It will always left corner area uncovered.
This is also happening to most of Full Frame DSLR and Mirrorless professional camera.
We need a bigger (much bigger) honestly to technically fix this flaw. But that will come in cost of portability. And even by then, we still need to think about the light trajectory, because if there are to many light fall outside if sensor area, that would also cost us the image quality
Thats why company choose to use software solution to overcome this. And that what we see in 10MP mode, where the result already processed by the imaging engine. Removing vignette and adding sharpness. Aside from color toning of course.
For me, 40MP and RAW mode is to be used when i know that i gonna use the image professionally and gonna need to tweak it myself later using lightroom or photoshop. (Or even snapseed if am on high mobility)

otonieru said:
For me, 40MP and RAW mode is to be used when i know that i gonna use the image professionally and gonna need to tweak it myself later using lightroom or photoshop. (Or even snapseed if am on high mobility)
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I read something about a quad bayer sensor beeing used.
Is there any benifit in shooting at 10MP in relation to dynamic range ?
I other words is there more going on then just averaging pixels when 10MP mode is used ?
Like documented in the the sony IMX294CJK sensor ?
It uses a Quad Bayer structure, and outputs data binned in 2 × 2 pixel units in normal mode. In HDR mode, integration can be divided into long-time integration and short-time integration for each 2 pixels in the Quad array. In this case there is no time difference between long-time integration and short-time integration, which realizes HDR with little blending offset when imaging moving subjects "

Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home

vincent2167 said:
Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home
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Can u then please share with me that lens profile ? I am unable to get it right on my p20 Pro

I don't have the phone yet, but sure I will do it afterwards (hopefully by the end of the month).

I received the phone today and using my previous methodology of profile creation, I don't get satisfying results. I guess I will stick with JPEG for the moment, hoping that Huawei will fix the dng profile like LG did with the G4.

Dont worry OP, your phone is not faulty ..
Even though SONY Xperias dont support RAW, thay are a little like this too.. at the 19 or 23mpx setting... you do get a certain amount of barrel distortion towards the edges of the image.. It may be that Huawei look at this and try to do something, but it is normal at 40mpx.
One of the things I do to help this in my Street/Candid Photography with my Canon.. is try to keep your subject in the centre and as big as you can.. what goes on at the edges of your image is often just waste anyway.. also Use Tap to focus (Tap on your subject on the screen), by doing this, you set the cameras light metre to Centre Weighted, therefore setting optimal light settings, which prevents your subject being "blown out" or poorly lit in the image.. With Tiny camera sensors try to drop your horizon, so you avoid placing your subject against a bright sky or background, unless your using "Fill in" flash on the main area..
Dont forget, this phone is less than 6 weeks old and other than the NOKIA 1020, this type of Imaging sensor hasnt been done before, so Huawei/Leica might tweak the camera sensor with updates if the barrelling is that bad.. but until then.. stick with jpg if you can..
Hope that helps

Make your own correction profile in your processing software.
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vincent2167 said:
Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home
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I finally managed to create a profile that provides satisfactory results. You can download it here.
The instructions are the same than the ones provided in this post. The only difference is that under "Image Correction Options", I set up the Luminance value to 1 and Chroma value to 1.

vincent2167 said:
I finally managed to create a profile that provides satisfactory results. You can download it here.
The instructions are the same than the ones provided in this post. The only difference is that under "Image Correction Options", I set up the Luminance value to 1 and Chroma value to 1.
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Thank you so much, this works wonderfully!!! :good: The RAW files look great now and are so much easier to edit in Lightroom! That color cast was truly a nightmare!!!
Is there such a tool for Android? Or do we have to wait if Huawei will somehow correct their RAW with an update?

This is a GREAT topic!
Learned a lot.

[ROOT] Manual Video mode and other features on Oreo

Hello everybody,
I've been looking at the /system/etc/camera_config.xml file, and I noticed that there are so many features that the LG camera app supports, but some of them are disabled even if they work on our G5. So I made a flashable zip to enable these features:
Manual Video mode: works very well, but doesn't support 21:9 aspect ratio (also broken in Fulmics 5.5 G6 camera port)
Graphy (applies settings from existing photos to yours): working perfectly, you just need to install Graphy from the Play Store to access to many more photos.
Adjust Exposure in Automatic mode with a slider: working
Add signature: not working on my phone, may be worth to try on some other phones
ZSL (zero shutter lag) on Manual mode: working, but if you set exposure or shutter to AUTO, the camera shows a value of "0" for both ISO and shutter. It's just an UI bug, the photos are taken as expected.Removed, as it has too many drawbacks.
If you don't have TWRP, just extract the camera_config.xml file and place it in /system/etc/ and be sure to set permissions correctly.
If the options are not available after flashing the zip, clear the data of the camera app.
By the way, looking inside the Smali code of the camera app, it seems thate there is a [email protected] mode, but I have no clue on how to enable it to test if our camera supports such a high frame rate.

Lowering exposure on automatic would be useful. I always though on stock it was set too high with the wide angle exposure being perfect.
How exactly does that work? Will a slider button appear where there was none before? And do you think it can be done for Nougat?
EDIT: I'd like to manually edit the file myself, what do you have to change just to get the automatic mode exposure slider?

Thanks mate for your great finding.. I manually edit my LG V20 camera config according to yours and it's working as it should.
Those exposure slider should be a handy to me.. and graphy? idk what that is but i will try to explore those someday..
thanks again..
EDIT -
there is no need to reboot if change those config line, simply just clear the camera data and voila ! this should be time saving..
anyway, i'm going to spread your finding on LG V20 forums.. keep on the good works !

@tremalnaik
wow this is awesome, it is LG V30+ features for the Graphy things. Could you please find out how to get Cine Video Effect working as well?
@daniLaLaLaLaLa
Just found this thread, thanks to you.
Am I able to use this mod using Nougat on LGV20?
Please advise.
Thank you.

karkand said:
@tremalnaik
wow this is awesome, it is LG V30+ features for the Graphy things. Could you please find out how to get Cine Video Effect working as well?
@daniLaLaLaLaLa
Just found this thread, thanks to you.
Am I able to use this mod using Nougat on LGV20?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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I guess it won't work on Nougat due to different camera apps.

ezzony said:
Lowering exposure on automatic would be useful. I always though on stock it was set too high with the wide angle exposure being perfect.
How exactly does that work? Will a slider button appear where there was none before? And do you think it can be done for Nougat?
EDIT: I'd like to manually edit the file myself, what do you have to change just to get the automatic mode exposure slider?
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To lower the exposure just tap on the screen on the area you want to focus, then a slider with two suns will appear next to the shutter button. That's the slider for the exposure.
If you want to add that feature yourself, open the /system/etc/camera_config.xml file with a text editor (TotalCommander, Root Explorer, etc...) and look for AE_focus_supported string and replace "false" with "true".
If you want to do it on Nougat you can try, if you already find AE_focus_supported string in camera_config.xml, it will likely work.
karkand said:
@tremalnaik
wow this is awesome, it is LG V30+ features for the Graphy things. Could you please find out how to get Cine Video Effect working as well?
@daniLaLaLaLaLa
Just found this thread, thanks to you.
Am I able to use this mod using Nougat on LGV20?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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I'll try to find out a way to use Cine Video Effect, there are some other modes, like mode_cinema and mode_disney_camera that are built in the camera code, but they make the camera app crash when selecting mode. There's also mode_food, that is shown correctly in the mode selection menu, but then crashes. Maybe some complementary files are missing from G5. I'll try to debug and see if it's just a matter of adding some files or if we need to edit the code.
If you want to use my file on V20 Nougat you can try, but make a backup of camera_config.xml, because different versions of camera app might not recognize some strings and crash. If you don't succeed, try editing your file, it's quite simple, you just have to replace some "false" with "true" and check if all works as expected.
EDIT: tried mode_cinema: the interface works perfectly, but it doesn't do anything You have the tutorial, the interactive zoom and the LUTs, but none of them works out of the box. As @xpirt explains here, Cinema Mode depends on the V30 camera sensor, and cannot be ported to G5 (and of course to G5, having the same sensor, at least on the primary camera).
Also Grid Photo (there are 4 modes) is buggy, because it takes stretched photos, with wrong aspect ratio and weird glitches. In this case doesn't seem to be a bug related to the hardware, but to the software.

@tremalnaik, ya that worked but it's ae_supported I think you meant not ae_focus. Anyway the setting was not available on my Nougat fone, I guess it could be made to work some way. I think I have the G6 camera app on my nougat g5 fone now I can't remember. Maybe it could be made to work by porting the G5 Oreo camera app over.
Incidentally what I don't like about the main rear camera is that it has a slighly orangy/yellow-y hue at times. The G4 camera was better. I wonder if there is any way to adjust it or is it basically the camera hardware.

For the AE Focus you might try adding this lines to your camera_config.xml
Code:
<item name="AE_focus_supported">
true
</item>
and see if your camera app makes use of this setting.
For the color I really don't know, there's so much code in that app to explore... If the color is too orange, you may want to switch to manual mode and set the white balance to something cooler. The problem would be if the color was too green or too purple (magenta), it wouldn't be possible to correct it using white balance, you woud need to edit the RAW file (or the JPG, with worst results).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwmsIySoHg2FamhOaEQ1T1o0Wkk
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use this apk instead of playstore.after that active it in setting of camera.perhaps you may restart phone after install the apk.that's all

While I was testing the H-ROM G7, I noticed a bug in the camera that made me realize that Zero Shutter Lag and Manual mode are not compatible. If you have flashed the configuration with ZLS active in manual mode, please replace it flashing the other zip file.
Enabling ZLS has 2 huge drawbacks: not being able to save DNG raw files and having less control over shutter speed (especially not being able to take long exposures).
As I'm currently using H-ROM, I can't test if on stock Oreo this bug is there, but I'm pretty sure it is.

After playing around with smali code of the camera app, it seems to be possible to make manual video work without root (and the G7 camera app)

@jc9896 mind sharing your work?

Black_Eyes said:
@jc9896 mind sharing your work?
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Extract the zip, install the app but dont open, and then copy the CamMod folder into the root of the internal storage.
I modified the app to search the CamMod folder for the relevant xml files.
Not a developer, no idea how to fix bugs and crashes.
Download here : https://mega.nz/#!ORIUBY6D!QzzC6m1BBYp-9LQB9kYIW9b2TFYyf7AqiO26T46sgos

Frank
Merci

tremalnaik said:
Hello everybody,
I've been looking at the /system/etc/camera_config.xml file, and I noticed that there are so many features that the LG camera app supports, but some of them are disabled even if they work on our G5. So I made a flashable zip to enable these features:
Manual Video mode: works very well, but doesn't support 21:9 aspect ratio (also broken in Fulmics 5.5 G6 camera port)
Graphy (applies settings from existing photos to yours): working perfectly, you just need to install Graphy from the Play Store to access to many more photos.
Adjust Exposure in Automatic mode with a slider: working
Add signature: not working on my phone, may be worth to try on some other phones
ZSL (zero shutter lag) on Manual mode: working, but if you set exposure or shutter to AUTO, the camera shows a value of "0" for both ISO and shutter. It's just an UI bug, the photos are taken as expected.Removed, as it has too many drawbacks.
If you don't have TWRP, just extract the camera_config.xml file and place it in /system/etc/ and be sure to set permissions correctly.
If the options are not available after flashing the zip, clear the data of the camera app.
By the way, looking inside the Smali code of the camera app, it seems thate there is a [email protected] mode, but I have no clue on how to enable it to test if our camera supports such a high frame rate.
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Greetings!
I have a question. Is it possible in any way to install this apk on LG G5 running Nougat 7.0. When I try to install the app, It says "error parsing the package". This is probbably due to incompatibility with Nougat. I know there is a minimum SDK version set inside the apk files (AndroidManifest.xml) so would it be possible to tweak some settings? The software of the camera app on Oreo is messed up, producing noisy images so I wouldn't like to sacrifice that.

ToTheSpace2 said:
Greetings!
I have a question. Is it possible in any way to install this apk on LG G5 running Nougat 7.0. When I try to install the app, It says "error parsing the package". This is probbably due to incompatibility with Nougat. I know there is a minimum SDK version set inside the apk files (AndroidManifest.xml) so would it be possible to tweak some settings? The software of the camera app on Oreo is messed up, producing noisy images so I wouldn't like to sacrifice that.
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For noisy images and general picture quality, I recommend Google Camera 6.1 on Oreo. (5.x on Nougat) Makes a huge difference in image quality.
You can find a good version by searching up google camera ports on xda, such as cstark's and Arnova's versions work well.
As for the stock cam, I tried with no success to port manual video over. There has been attempts iirc but it seems that manual video encoding is broken on Nougat. That issue is resolved on Oreo.

jc9896 said:
For noisy images and general picture quality, I recommend Google Camera 6.1 on Oreo. (5.x on Nougat) Makes a huge difference in image quality.
You can find a good version by searching up google camera ports on xda, such as cstark's and Arnova's versions work well.
As for the stock cam, I tried with no success to port manual video over. There has been attempts iirc but it seems that manual video encoding is broken on Nougat. That issue is resolved on Oreo.
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Thank you for the reply!
Do you mind checking out a thread I made about LG G5 noise problem on Oreo (link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/long-exposure-images-lg-g5-oreo-noisier-t3956693)
I don't know if that's the general problem or is it just me, maybe you know something more about it? The manual video for Oreo is amazing but this image noise bug bothers me.

ToTheSpace2 said:
Thank you for the reply!
Do you mind checking out a thread I made about LG G5 noise problem on Oreo (link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/long-exposure-images-lg-g5-oreo-noisier-t3956693)
I don't know if that's the general problem or is it just me, maybe you know something more about it? The manual video for Oreo is amazing but this image noise bug bothers me.
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There is noise on mine. Seems to be about the same as Nougat (can't really tell from my pics), but as I use GCam nowadays its not as much of a problem. Night sight on Oreo (GCam 6.1) does a lot to improve night shots and noise.

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Extract the zip, install the app but dont open, and then copy the CamMod folder into the root of the internal storage.
I modified the app to search the CamMod folder for the relevant xml files.
Not a developer, no idea how to fix bugs and crashes.
Download here : https://mega.nz/#!ORIUBY6D!QzzC6m1BBYp-9LQB9kYIW9b2TFYyf7AqiO26T46sgos
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I have tested your port for several days on my LG G5 (Oreo stock) and I am very grateful for your work. I know that some functions do not work but the most important ones for me such as manual video and manual photo modes work quite well. The LG Camera app 7.0 with your modifications is infinitely better than the one included in the stock rom.
Before, I had tried several video recording apps with manual controls from the Play Store but they used to have small jumps in the recordings. It seems that only LG apps record well in 4K with stock rom.

Works as described. Thank you for these tweaks. ???

Making long exposure photos at daylight

Hi guys,
on my trip to Ireland I missed a nice feature of my old Huawei P10 where I can set a mode for long exposure photography at daylight to make water look smooth (for example). Huawei made an extra mode for this including light burst and other nice features.
On the S10 I'm missing such a thing.
With the pro mode I can set the exposure time but the photos are getting way to bright.
Does someone know how to make such long exposure pictures with the S10?
Greetings,
Jannomag

@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.

AHE_XDA said:
@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.
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As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.

Jannomag said:
As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.
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I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM

AHE_XDA said:
I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM
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On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.

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On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.
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Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need

pchetan2 said:
Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need
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I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work

Jannomag said:
I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work
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Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.

redsmith said:
Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.
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With f2.4 it's even e bit brighter. Also with RAW it's too bright to get back every part of the image. Some parts are completely white.
It's sad that there's no different app or that Samsung doesn't support those nice features. I used them often on my holiday trips. Also the light trail feature is quiet nice because sometimes the picture gets also too bright when shooting in cities with near street lamps.
nvm...I have to deal with it, it's sad for a 800€ phone but everything else is good.

You have to use ND filter to achieve the long exposure shot during daylight.

You're literally asking for something that doesn't work without an ND filter.
The whole point of LONG EXPOSURE is literally in the name.
You can't get "long exposure" without exposing the sensor to more and more light the longer the shutter is open.
Whatever huawei was doing isn't real long exposure during daylight because that is impossible without an ND filter over the lens.

The p20 uses software to average multiple expdures so you could so it in bright daylight. It worked really well and wish I had something similar on my s20