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[Q] Disappointed with headphone audio output. any fixes?

I know this is the dev section but posting this on the i9000 board will just allow it to get lost and ignored.
I got this phone to replace my old deteriorating samsung d500. i was quite excited to use this as my main music player since i lost my old ipod.
dont get me wrong.the phone is great. but audio volume and quality is really lacking. i thought it was my imagination at first (since i lost my ipod i couldnt compare) but then i tried out my friends iphone 3g (same headphones of course) and iphone audio quality clearly trumps the galaxy sl's.
I tried using an app for users on GB 2.3.4 called "volume +". it does the job of increasing the volume beyond the phones natural limits, but by exceeding the phones max volume by even just a bit causes the music to be distorted no matter what settings i use.only the phones default setting sounds clear (relatively speaking) I listen to flac,not mp3.
Are i9003 owners screwed on this aspect of our phone? I love android and i love this phone, and i dont think spending over 500usd on an iphone with limited functionality albeit great sounding audio is worth it.
I read volume + is an app that renders the audio on a software level while voodoo sound does so on a hardware level (though it relies on certain kernels which are obviously not available on this phone atm)
Also, voodoo sound from what i know will only be effective with a good sound chip (wolfson) found on the original sgs. does anyone know if the sl uses the same chip?
If this phone is really limited this aspect, can anyone recommend an android unit which has excellent headphone output (comparable to apples devices or even better hopefully)?
thanks for your time reading this post

Actually, The sound quality is superb. It is not good on the Stock FW, the FW when you buy the phone. But after the Gingerbread update of XXKPH and the Froyo update of XXKB3, The sound is a charm! WHich FW are you on?

Have u try poweramp?
this got a equalizers
so u can adjust volume,bass,treble and etc
or try the following link fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
Hope this will helpful

mingfai said:
Have u try poweramp?
this got a equalizers
so u can adjust volume,bass,treble and etc
or try the following link fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
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im currently on XXKPE.
Ive tried Poweramp and its not really something that equalizers can fix imo. The output just doesnt have enough drive in it. but ill check that link you posted
edit: after trying out what was suggested in the link, ive noticed a slight improvement in volume and bass. thank you!

Buy another headphones.
I purchased Rs 100 headphone just to listen to my phone, and I am quite happy with my sound output with that it has great Bass .but it has no mic.
Accessories headphones sucks.
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manrock111 said:
Buy another headphones.
I purchased Rs 100 headphone just to listen to my phone, and I am quite happy with my sound output with that it has great Bass .but it has no mic.
Accessories headphones sucks.
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I wouldnt complain about sound quality while using stock headphones.
I use Koss portapros which sound exellent on my laptop and ipod.
thanks anyway.

the phones sound is indeed below par and there is nothing we can do about it.on the other hand it is comparable to the iphone 3gs sound quality so cant complain at all.after all very few phones can compete with dedicated mp3 players.if you want sound quality try going for the phones with wolfson dacs

jit_devil2 said:
the phones sound is indeed below par and there is nothing we can do about it.on the other hand it is comparable to the iphone 3gs sound quality so cant complain at all.after all very few phones can compete with dedicated mp3 players.if you want sound quality try going for the phones with wolfson dacs
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I'll definitely keep that in mind when making my next purchase

sicmofo said:
I'll definitely keep that in mind when making my next purchase
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Ask misledz about sound... he might help...also invest in a good pair of headphones or earphones...
Do some research on brands... try sennheiser or Bose....
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Yeap, I got most of my music advice from spacebar, And he mentioned that never rely on an app's built in equalizer it's horrible! Get the "Equaliser" app from the market, and adjust the settings to +2db on the first bar and +1db on the 5th bar. That will boost your music needs and also it combines well with poweramp/Miui player.

Misledz said:
Yeap, I got most of my music advice from spacebar, And he mentioned that never rely on an app's built in equalizer it's horrible! Get the "Equaliser" app from the market, and adjust the settings to +2db on the first bar and +1db on the 5th bar. That will boost your music needs and also it combines well with poweramp/Miui player.
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To be honest i recall the post where you mentioned the equaliser app but I merely shrugged it off as one of those eqs that come with every music player out there.
Now let me tell you how WRONG I was to think that. This app really does the job. other EQs just distort the sound, but this one allows for awesome tweaking/customization. I'm quite happy now listening to music on this phone.
Maraming salamat kapatid (Thank you)

thanks for the tips guys . coming from nokia (5800) , i9003's sound quality was unacceptable to me . with this app its somewhat usable now. although it still lacks the loudness imo

Well loudness can be modified with a volume+ app, that isn't the best I'm aware but it does the job to raise the volume to a certain amount. Equaliser is a free app, But in some term's your custom preset doesn't get saved in the free version, oh well, there are alternatives to the paid anyways.
So far so good, I've noticed that PowerAMP has really good volume output, when combined with Equaliser, it really brings out the perfection that is really intended to be heard. Raw beauty. But in order to get the best of your settings, *If you use PowerAMP, you should disable any pre-existing equalizer settings or boosts, etc, they just lower the volume to a point where the deaf can hear*
As for the Equaliser setting's, Some might be wondering how to you enable the sliders in the EQ app, *Put the widget on your homescreen to make it easier to access, plus it's got a sexy layout*, Press the power button on the top right in EQ app and enable the tick mark's hence giving you the option to expand your listening experience.
Bass Boost - 15%~50% the choice is upto you, there isn't any real distortion and the quality is still superb. I'm a fan of dubstep/electronic music so I tend to love it when heavy bass drops in.
Visualizer - Not more than 5%-7%, I don't usually enable this because it tends to make the audio seem a bit faded off. It's only effective when you own a 7.1 Stereo highclass headset.
Reverb - Usually keep this disabled, But the Plate effect is a nice way to focus on the audio aswell as keep track of the bass.
@sicmofo Your welcome part ! Anytime bro.

Misledz very clearly explained ....
It seems to be pretty no0b proof ATM!
any ideas or equalizer presets for getting a half decent surround sound or 3d sound effect for heavy metal or instrumental rock tracks... when using the bundled earphones? And instead of poweramp does miui player integrate well with eq app...?
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Lordrdx666 said:
Misledz very clearly explained ....
It seems to be pretty no0b proof ATM!
any ideas or equalizer presets for getting a half decent surround sound or 3d sound effect for heavy metal or instrumental rock tracks... when using the bundled earphones? And instead of poweramp does miui player integrate well with eq app...?
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Yeap It works with most supposed player's except for Fede's Ubermusic, That's a bit glitchy and needs a major rework That player tends to start music on it's own D:. Bro the settings I mentioned should be good enough for general listening experience It boosts background while making the vocals audible

Just my feedback but I noticed that the stock music player imo has overall better sound quality and volume compared to poweramp (I'm not a fan of the early 90's-ish stereo ui either). Proplayer has a beautiful ui and good sound but it sucks the battery like there's no tomorrow. Miui player's ui reminds me too much of my old ipod (apple hater)
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if we are talking about music player here then
TTpod is just awesome, it has its own decoders-- just try it
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with equalizer its a fantastic combo.

sicmofo said:
Just my feedback but I noticed that the stock music player imo has overall better sound quality and volume compared to poweramp (I'm not a fan of the early 90's-ish stereo ui either). Proplayer has a beautiful ui and good sound but it sucks the battery like there's no tomorrow. Miui player's ui reminds me too much of my old ipod (apple hater)
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Apple hater? You truly are my child! SON!! --Err well, on another note, MIUI has a nice shake feature that I really enjoy, I can't take out the phone in the jeepney due to security/anti-theft measures but the fact that I need to shake my leg just to change the music isn't so bad ---Although that might seem like I have parkinson's to some people ;-;

manrock111 said:
if we are talking about music player here then
TTpod is just awesome, it has its own decoders-- just try it
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with equalizer its a fantastic combo.
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I've tried this out and I have to say its quite good. Props to the chinese devs. UI is attractive yet easy to navigate. The whole setup reminds me of a karaoke machine lol.
It also has the shake function that Misledz mentioned from Miui. This would be my music app of choice BUT...no flac support. BAAAAAWWWWWWW
@Misledz
I understand your plight for I too bear the same burdens. What I do however is carry this around:
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I havent had the (dis)pleasure of using it but I believe having one around your neck during one of those late commutes in a jeepney acts as a deterrent already (granted everyone knows what it is)
Haha dont worry mine isnt as flashy as the picture above which is just for reference I hold onto mine like a priest clutching onto a rosary on a crashing plane
I HAVE prepared meals with it though. Very handy

Try Volume+ v1.73
f.
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Beats Audio for all android devices

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Guys check the Beats Audio MOD (Gingerbread) at XDA.
Beats Audio for CM9, AKOP, MIUI -> Here (not tested)
Was using DSP Manager, now I switched to beats audio. high performance improvement in my Atrix.
NOTE :- Remove the DSP Manager via Titanium (or similar app) to avoid conflict !!
All credits to the dev RockoDev (2.3) and ...Awesome... (4.0)

but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.

nicks90 said:
but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.
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It need not be a pointless app. You need to adjust the curve carefully that no distortion occurs. The DSP gave me noises in its default config. adjusted so many times, but couldn't make it clear. Anyways the beats is giving me perfect sound combination now. As you know beats is being promoted by/included in most HTC phones, its worthy testing.

Looks great! I'm about to try.

njarun said:
Guys check the Beats Audio MOD (Gingerbread) at XDA.
Beats Audio for CM9, AKOP, MIUI -> Here (not tested)
Was using DSP Manager, now I switched to beats audio. high performance improvement in my Atrix.
NOTE :- Remove the DSP Manager via Titanium (or similar app) to avoid conflict !!
All credits to the dev RockoDev (2.3) and ...Awesome... (4.0)
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I am on jokersax CM9 0.8.1 and I uninstalled DSP Manager via titanium backup as recommended prior to flashing the AwesomeBEATS.zip.
AwesomeBEATS constantly FCs while trying to access it through Apollo and well as Google Play Music. Music playback stopped working. Not working with this ROM.

I been included that as an alternative option to DSP manager in the aroma installer for my rom,. beats is great but its meant to be used with headphones and you can tell the difference when its enabled once it senses the jack input..
but this mod is old already, why post a repost?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/beats-audio-now-available-on-any-gingerbread-rom/

I think Beats is HORRIBLE. Obviously, there's no 'right' way for music to sound. The only thing that would be close to 'right' is if you were using exactly the same device, amp and monitors as were used to master the music in the first place (and even then there's probably variation in different copies of the same equipment) But personally, I like to hear the vocals in my music, rather than just a muddy bassy din and some ear piercing treble. Everybody has their own opinion on these things
Seems a shame to spoil the Atrix's good quality amplification with this tripe though Count yourself lucky you don't have a One X. It has the most terrible headphone output quality of any device I've owned in a long time, and that includes £10 MP3 players.

nicks90 said:
but beats audio is a pointless app. its just a preset equaliser that emphasises bass and high treble in a simple S curve through the range.
you can get this exact same effect with dsp or poweramp etc. dont waste your time.
in fact most record producers scream at your average Joe for messing with equalisers and would prefer everyone to keep it flat/neutral.
Many producers reference classical music for a good reason when they calibrate recording studios: all the instruments tend to sing in perfect harmony. They all have a clearly defined space within the mix, and if you move away from flat, you will remove certain aspects of the orchestra.
Leave it alone.
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He is right. I'm a mastering engineer, and I can tell you that eq is only for correcting mistakes; either in the recording/mixing process, or in the reproduction system. You use eq to return the signal to flat. However, unless you know what's wrong with the sound you are probably just making things even worse.
On the other hand, if you like how it sounds, don't let snobs like us dissuade you!
I only hope that you'd try getting used to even response speakers and/or headphones (if such a thing exists). You'll thank us when you realize all parts of the audio spectrum are equally important.
And thank you to the OP for this, even if it is controversial. =)
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=JKT= said:
He is right. I'm a mastering engineer, and I can tell you that eq is only for correcting mistakes; either in the recording/mixing process, or in the reproduction system. You use eq to return the signal to flat. However, unless you know what's wrong with the sound you are probably just making things even worse.
On the other hand, if you like how it sounds, don't let snobs like us dissuade you!
I only hope that you'd try getting used to even response speakers and/or headphones (if such a thing exists). You'll thank us when you realize all parts of the audio spectrum are equally important.
And thank you to the OP for this, even if it is controversial. =)
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I don't always click the thanks button, but when I do it's for informative posts like yours. :good:
Audio equalizers are for broadcast stations and recording studios, you're just undoing what they've already done by using your own EQ to mess with the frequencies. It's not a bad thing to do considering everyone has a different impression of what sounds "good". I tend to enjoy my music at slightly higher bass frequencies than flat when using a good subwoofer.
But yeah, equalizers are used to correct mistakes or unwanted audio frequencies which can be produced by recording equipment and to make certain frequencies more prominent (think, if you have a bunch of low pitch instruments and a high pitch singer, you can bring out those higher pitches with equalization).
Keeping your EQ flat means it stays at the recorded and already equalized levels the artists wanted it at.
But like I said, everyone has different opinions.
My only issue with this post, if I was being nitpicky, is that it's in the wrong forum section! I'd suggest having a mod move it Atrix 4G Themes & Apps section, unless we're defining any "Development" thread something you need to install via nandroid, in which case people may start packaging up their own apk bundles and posting them here as rom extensions.

aint that the truth... i agree 100% with the above statement... i feel the same way about that XLoud hack & Bravia Engine Hack... I've done tons of research and testing on my own phone using the libs and codes and strings and door knobs with dental floss and floor lint under my neighbor's car tire during the summer. lol, what I mean is that these hacks are floating around without any real concrete proof to their advantages or benefits whatsoever, yet I still see people add them into roms like it's that extra golden nugget that will extended life expectancy by 25+ years and people still request them because they swear how good the hack\tweak is that they would really wish to have it included in the rom.
The beats audio, if anything, i feel like just raises the mids & highs almost like a guesstimated pre-configured value meant to be like a one size fits all kind of thing.
Personally, I prefer having the option of doing my own corrections through the equalizer whether it's for the worse or better. In the end it's how it good it sounds to the listeners ear and different people hear sounds sometimes far different than others. So what someone might say is perfect, someone else could hear a brain aneurysm building from the noise pollution. But atleast with equalizers like the one with DSP for example, it's nice to be able to adjust and play with the frequencies instead the levels being preconfigured.
I would love to see the comparison of this with the "XLoud" hack to see which one is doing what it'said to be doing and which one is really just a "hack".

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Oh wow... I knew there's a reason it's called an "equalizer"!
Yeah, believe it or not, I always wondered why is it called that... Stupid me, never bothered to google though... But at least now I know.

Nice
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i got this app with custom rom, It doesnt do anything... I mean, anything.
I use note 2, i have Klipsch earphones, so they arent cheap and low quality earphones but Beats app does not do anything.
also I tried this app with Bose Quiet Comfort 15 and still nothing!
Bose 15's got much much better sound quality than beats but app is still useless.
IF i really need to chance EQ, Neutron and Power AMP does the job done.
You can really make your music better or worst with Neutron (Neutron EQ is much detailed) and PowerAmp but Beats does not do anything.
I wish custom roms do not include beats at all...

try it on mt25i

Sound quality

How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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anonymousss said:
How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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They don't. In my experience HTC made great ones, esp. the One X has got awesome sound even without DSP.

anonymousss said:
How to know which smartphone gives the best sound output experience one can ever have?
I have so many reviews about a lot of smartphones but I never read something about sound quality.
Do all smart phones share the same soundcard or sth
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http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
Denna finns i Note II (och SIII tro jag).
Rekommenderade lurar: http://www.ljudmakarn.se/view.asp?art_id=201&menu=1
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http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
Denna finns i Note II (och SIII tro jag).
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Forum rules: PLEASE write English. Most guys here don't get any Swedish (I guess). So pls write English.
Thank you

All HTC's suck. The One XL is alright, with mods
Best is
Nexus S
Galaxy S (original)
Galaxy S 3
Nexus 10
Anything with a tegra 3 is generally rubbish with sound, as they have a crappy DAC. Anything with a Wolfson DAC is good GENERALLY
But Snapdragons are getting better

markj338 said:
All HTC's suck. The One XL is alright, with mods
Best is
Nexus S
Galaxy S (original)
Galaxy S 3
Nexus 10
Anything with a tegra 3 is generally rubbish with sound, as they have a crappy DAC. Anything with a Wolfson DAC is good GENERALLY
But Snapdragons are getting better
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I really liked the sound of the One X. Galaxy devices have to have some mods to make it sound ok. Once I got my Nexus the sound was awful until I rooted it and flashed some mods. Now it's awesome. Same with every device I ever used or got my hands on. Without mods it's like trying to drive a car with the handbreak on.

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I really liked the sound of the One X. Galaxy devices have to have some mods to make it sound ok. Once I got my Nexus the sound was awful until I rooted it and flashed some mods. Now it's awesome. Same with every device I ever used or got my hands on. Without mods it's like trying to drive a car with the handbreak on.
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Yeah lol
I was going to try porting ALSA libs to our device (qualcomm sound enhancement project thing) but I have no idea where to start

Guys correct me if I am wrong :d
So you are saying that u can improve the sound that comes out of your earphones attached to our device??
And all that by flashing some mod ??
If so, the plz tell me which mod would u recommend
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markj338 said:
Yeah lol
I was going to try porting ALSA libs to our device (qualcomm sound enhancement project thing) but I have no idea where to start
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And I don't even get any of the words you just said hahah no, srsly, have no clue what to do to port the stuff. But would be awesome to see
anonymousss said:
Guys correct me if I am wrong :d
So you are saying that u can improve the sound that comes out of your earphones attached to our device??
And all that by flashing some mod ??
If so, the plz tell me which mod would u recommend
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Oh, of course you can! I would have died without any DSP-Manager is a MUST-have. The rest differs from which type of phone you have and so on. I use ACID sound engine. It's a mix of a few great sound mods and together with AwesomeBeats it just rocks But it doesn't work on any device. Great on my GNex but e.g. doesn't work on my dad's DHD. But try DSP-Manager, you won't regret it.

I am on cm 7 and I think I got DSP manager can u guide me or should I play around myself??
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anonymousss said:
I am on cm 7 and I think I got DSP manager can u guide me or should I play around myself??
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Never tried anything on CM7, but I can show you my setup. Bass is really, really high here. That's because my good earphones broke and I have to use the cheap, crappy Samsung ones, that came with my phone. Have to turn the bass up as hell to even hear it. But here you go:
Dynamic Range Compression: OFF
Bass Boost/Beats Boost: EXTREME (I would keep that, no matter which earphones you have - Of course just if you like bass - I do)
Loudness Compensation: Try out from STRONG to STRONGEST (dependend on earphones)
Virtual Room Effect: OFF
My soundcurve is now really disorted because of my cheap earphones but it was always the best for me to do sth in a "u" shape.It can be a very weird "u" like here but it was always the best for me. I'm not an expert though, just telling you my personal experiences.
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I'll try it and tell u what I think
But why is the bass So high ?because of crappy earphones?? O don't get it
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I want to get the latest DSP manager.
Can I get it on cm7 ??
and did u flash awesome beats mod??
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Latest DSP-Manager doesn't work on CM7. U need ICS or JB for that. AwesomeBeats is just working on AOSP ROMs. No Sense, no Touchwhiz. And yeah, I'm running AwesomeBeats in combination with ACID sound engine.
The bass is so high because I have very crappy earphones and I have to push the bass up that much to get sth of a normal sound. With better headphones I would do half of the shown or even less. Just try out what's best for you. Usually it's this "u" shape but it's dependent on which earphones you use and what their permormance is.

Earphone soundcurve has generally a "n" shape because they're optimised for middle frequencies.very high and very low ones are weaker. A good sound should be more or less flat so that you can hear what the studio wanted the music to sound like. Using a "u" shape equalizer compensate the n shape of the earphone. Then as said before some very cheap earphones lack of bass frequencies, particularly the small ones. However the tendency for today's headphones is more to have too much bass. You'll have to edit your curve depending on your headphones and also depending on your tastes and music style. You probably won't put so much bass to listen to jazz as to listen to dubstep.
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pec0ra said:
Earphone soundcurve has generally a "n" shape because they're optimised for middle frequencies.very high and very low ones are weaker. A good sound should be more or less flat so that you can hear what the studio wanted the music to sound like. Using a "u" shape equalizer compensate the n shape of the earphone. Then as said before some very cheap earphones lack of bass frequencies, particularly the small ones. However the tendency for today's headphones is more to have too much bass. You'll have to edit your curve depending on your headphones and also depending on your tastes and music style. You probably won't put so much bass to listen to jazz as to listen to dubstep.
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It's just really dependend on your earphones. If I had set an "n" shape for my old good earphones it would have sounded very weird. I guess every pair handles the sound in an other way so you really gotta try what's the best.

WILLI120 said:
It's just really dependend on your earphones. If I had set an "n" shape for my old good earphones it would have sounded very weird. I guess every pair handles the sound in an other way so you really gotta try what's the best.
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The n shape I talked about is the one of the sound coming out of the earphones. You wanna compensate it with an equalizer in u. But again it depend a lot on your phones
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pec0ra said:
The n shape I talked about is the one of the sound coming out of the earphones. You wanna compensate it with an equalizer in u. But again it depend a lot on your phones
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Ah, now I get it You're right. That should be the reason why a u shape is usually the best. On my 2nd broken pair (Sony) I have to push the mids a bit more than the highs. So again, dependend on earphones. On my beats I had to push the highs a lot and the bass just a little. And with my crappy Samsung pair it's like in my post before. Sound is still not that good, though. Just barely can hear any traces of a bass guitar:/

WILLI120 said:
Forum rules: PLEASE write English. Most guys here don't get any Swedish (I guess). So pls write English.
Thank you
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Sorry. I blame it on all the forum jumping I do. I didn't even realise lol

Dmwitz said:
Sorry. I blame it on all the forum jumping I do. I didn't even realise lol
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Sh*t happens;D No big deal
So, I got some sweet new earphones (new urBeats), so I just wanna share my new setup:
Dynamic Range Compression: Slight
Bass/Beats Boost: Moderate
Loudness Compensation: Strong
Still experimental but I'm getting close to it...

[MOD][APP][HOW-TO][Headsets] Guide to get a really good sound from Xperia T (&TX&V)

[MOD][APP][HOW-TO][Headsets] Guide to get a really good sound from Xperia T (&TX&V)
The audio listening experience is somewhat subjective and I do not claim to give the universal thruth here, just guidelines that could help you to get a better sound from your device.
Since I bought my Xperia T (about 1 year ago), I have constantly been trying to improve the sound that I get from my device and presently I can say that I'm rather happy. I've tested tons of mods, apps, headsets and it's not so easy to do the good choice...
1. The player
I've been using poweramp for a while. This is a good player but since the JB update I could no longer use it because of frequent scratching noises. Moreover, I find that the sound of poweramp is too artificially dynamic.
Actually, only the Sony stock walkman player is good for me, i.e. bug-free. I don't use the lastest versions of Walkman for JB 4.2 ported to JB 4.1.2 that you can find in this forum section because of various issues (few scratching, volume jumps).
So, let's go for the stock player
2. Sound enhancement (equalizer, effects...)
The stock Sony sound enhancement (musicFX) is rather bad to my taste. It has a huge lack of clarity and spoils the bass.
The first thing to do is to flash PureXAudioLITE of @ZeroInfinity. This mod is system wide and should be compatible with any equalizers or sound enhancements. Then, you will notice a gain of clarity, better bass and treeble.
Secondly, let's change of equalizer (the "Clearbass" bass booster of Sony is a disaster). The best to my taste is Equalizer from playstore. It's a very good 5-bands equalizer + bass booster (+ virtualization) fully compliant with Walkman.
Take the time to tune fine Equalizer, it's difficult for non-audiophiles, but it's worth the effort. Regarding the bass booster, it might be not work the very first time you activate it : so stop the music, close the walkman and start it up again. Keep your ears open to hear its effect, it act on very low frequencies (20-50 Hz). The virtualizer effect is interesting, it can give relief to the sound.
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If you like Equalizer, you may buy its unlock key (1.49 €) and then you will be abble to save your different EQ settings and even to save them as home-screen shorcuts :good:
The sound is now much clearer, isn't it ?
Moreover, it will stay active when you watch videos!!
3. The headset
The stock Sony headset is not that bad. But from Sony you can get much better for relatively cheap : MH1C. It is fully compliant with latest Xperia devices, it has an extremely wide banwidth, with perhaps a little lack of bass, but this can easily compansated adjusting the bass booster.
Regarding "on ear" headphones, I've bought the Phillips Fidelio M1. It is not cheap but sounds extremely fine and I think it is the only Hifi headphone having a low impedance of 16 ohms (same as the stock headset, if you chose a headphone with a too high impedance you won't be abble to adjust the volume up to descent levels...).
That's done. I hope it will help...

Nothing about "Honami" in my thread. Yet interesting

Good description!) Is PureX compatible with our devices? I have TX.

canon1995 said:
Good description!) Is PureX compatible with our devices? I have TX.
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Thanks
PureXAudioLITE, yes it is universal.

nreuge said:
Thanks
PureXAudioLITE, yes it is universal.
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Thank you. You know I cant find perfect mod for me. I cant hear BIG difference between stock and mods. I also tried AC!D mod. Yes, the sound is maybe better, but... I actually use my smartphone with Sony-MDR XB600 and I always coming back to the stock enhacements

canon1995 said:
Thank you. You know I cant find perfect mod for me. I cant hear BIG difference between stock and mods. I also tried AC!D mod. Yes, the sound is maybe better, but... I actually use my smartphone with Sony-MDR XB600 and I always coming back to the stock enhacements
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Yes, most mods promise so much but actually do nothing good.
Flash PureXAudioLite, it will be for sure a little better.
Then, try Equalizer and take your time to test it, maybe will it be to your taste... (and test the virtualizer effect, it can give relief to the sound).

i will try on my T, thanks bro

ANYONE TRIED THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342308
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akashpillai said:
ANYONE TRIED THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342308
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Yes, I've tried it. Did not feel any improvement...
Will retry it once more time to be sure.
Thanks.

just use viper4android there is no better

sickside said:
just use viper4android there is no better
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just give your comment to this mod instead of something else.. this is not really helping anybody.
or atleast give arguments with your comment..
question to TS:
i flashed the mod and it seems to be working because EQ scale is changed and i can hear some difference.
one thing though, in the installation video of the mod you can see that there are two new options in sony walkman EQ presets. but i don't have them, maybe that's normal with the universal lite version but just checking.

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Maybe no better to your taste, good for you! Personnaly, I find it sounds really too artificial with tons of options that change the sound but not necessarily in a better way. Moreover, it causes scratching noises on my device and drains battery very quickly.
Pollie81 said:
just give your comment to this mod instead of something else.. this is not really helping anybody.
or atleast give arguments with your comment..
question to TS:
i flashed the mod and it seems to be working because EQ scale is changed and i can hear some difference.
one thing though, in the installation video of the mod you can see that there are two new options in sony walkman EQ presets. but i don't have them, maybe that's normal with the universal lite version but just checking.
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Yes, no option with the lite version, it just changes audio libs. It changes EQ scale (more bass and treeble) and I've noticed a improvement of sound clarity.

nreuge said:
Maybe no better to your taste, good for you! Personnaly, I find it sounds really too artificial with tons of options that change the sound but not necessarily in a better way. Moreover, it causes scratching noises on my device and drains battery very quickly.
Yes, no option with the lite version, it just changes audio libs. It changes EQ scale (more bass and treeble) and I've noticed a improvement of sound clarity.
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Ok, cool. Then it works 100%.
The sound indeed really improves!
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sickside said:
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Viper is best man. ;D
But I'm using Viper xHiFi... Restores quality of music files and sounds simply great!
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WhiteNeo said:
Viper is best man. ;D
But I'm using Viper xHiFi... Restores quality of music files and sounds simply great!
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Does not sound great at all for me, why ?? As I said "the audio listening experience is somewhat subjective" (1st sentence of my thread). So, your opinion is welcome, but please do not say "It's the best".
From an objective point of view, Viper4Android is essentially a convoler. It's for sure a great technology to produce audio effects. But if your goal is to be as close as possible to the original sound of all your music files, I'm not sure that's the best tool.
Anyway, I don't believe in an universal tool to restore quality of degraded audio files, what is lost is lost. Be aware that in a 128 kbps mp3, the loss is actually very tiny.

nreuge said:
Does not sound great at all for me, why ?? As I said "the audio listening experience is somewhat subjective" (1st sentence of my thread). So, your opinion is welcome, but please do not say "It's the best".
From an objective point of view, Viper4Android is essentially a convoler. It's for sure a great technology to produce audio effects. But if your goal is to be as close as possible to the original sound of all your music files, I'm not sure that's the best tool.
Anyway, I don't believe in an universal tool to restore quality of degraded audio files, what is lost is lost. Be aware that in a 128 kbps mp3, the loss is actually very tiny.
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Well said. :good:

nreuge said:
Does not sound great at all for me, why ?? As I said "the audio listening experience is somewhat subjective" (1st sentence of my thread). So, your opinion is welcome, but please do not say "It's the best".
From an objective point of view, Viper4Android is essentially a convoler. It's for sure a great technology to produce audio effects. But if your goal is to be as close as possible to the original sound of all your music files, I'm not sure that's the best tool.
Anyway, I don't believe in an universal tool to restore quality of degraded audio files, what is lost is lost. Be aware that in a 128 kbps mp3, the loss is actually very tiny.
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Hey.. Viper4Android doesn't equal Viper4Android.. There are differences!
There is the FX version (with convoler and all that stuff), which really sounds extremely unnatural.. And there is xHiFi.. Developed with the purpose to restore low contour and high clarity. And enabling it makes indeed a noticeable difference in clarity... Which is in my opinion natural. (in my~ opinion. ^^)
But you're right, audio listening experience is indeed subjective.
I have heard.. That there are even people out there that are happy without an equalizer! :cyclops:

WhiteNeo said:
I have heard.. That there are even people out there that are happy without an equalizer! :cyclops:
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Yes
That beeing said, a sound enhancement with just 2 buttons (bass and treeble) would be useful for audio noobs. Tuning properly an equalizer is not so easy.

nreuge said:
Yes
That beeing said, a sound enhancement with just 2 buttons (bass and treeble) would be useful for audio noobs. Tuning properly an equalizer is not so easy.
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Right. However, if you think Viper only has two buttons you're.. Pretty wrong. ^^
Anyways, want to give me some tips about effective audio tuning with an equalizer ?
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WhiteNeo said:
Right. However, if you think Viper only has two buttons you're.. Pretty wrong. ^^
Anyways, want to give me some tips about effective audio tuning with an equalizer ?
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No no, I do know that Viper has an equalizer (although not very ergonomic ). I was just thinking that Sony could provide treeble and bass buttons as an alternative of the equalizer for audio noobs.
Regarding tuning an equalizer, I just tuning it listening to some of my favourite audio files that cover the full frequency range. Then, I trust my ears. It can last several days for me to tune it fine.

LG Quad DAC Tips, Tricks, Etc...

Howdy All,
For those who have had a LG V device in the past you'all know what's coming - how do we trick the quad DAC into high impedance mode (HIM) or AUX mode?
For those who don't know here's a little background. The previous LG V series phones have had a very nice DAC and AMP setup which can almost meet the standards of audiophile quality. The thing was that in the later phones (V20 and V30 AFAIR) the software was designed to "smart switch" which mode the AMP was in. HIM and AUX mode settings had the loudest volumes and was corresponding to the headphone impedance value. The normal setting had the lowest volume designed for low impedance IEMs. Note that the AMP setting doesn't really have a bearing on sound QUALITY, just sound VOLUME. I'm guessing but the reasoning for this is to prevent blown IEMs and blown eardrums. I'm going to find the link for the old V30 quad DAC thread and some stuff tried and what worked in order to activate AUX mode and/or HIM. BTW having ROOT on the phone allows for adjusting this setting as needed, which is why I went with the unlocked version this time around. My pair of MrSpeakers Aeon Flows have low impedance but need power in order to drive properly and the AMP in the V series phones would only trigger normal impedance mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/modes-quad-dac-t3690567
So that brings us to the V40. Does it have a quad DAC? Yes it does. Does it have a smart switching AMP? So far my indications are yes it does. Do the old tricks from the V30 days work on the V40? I don't think that they do. I have multiple extension cables, which I use for triggering the AUX mode as well as an impedance adapter (50ohms I think). The old methods of using the extension cable, the adapter, and both don't seem to have an effect on the AMP setting. My Sony MDR-1As are much louder than my Aeon Flows...bummer for me.
UPDATE - Upon further testing with the help of this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptrio.hi_fi_status I was able to trigger the AUX AMP mode and it kicked up the volume on my Sony's quite a bit! Unfortunately when I triggered HIM the volume of the sound did not change from the normal mode. Basically what I did was take a 2ft 3.5mm cable extension (male on one side female on the other) and plug it in WITHOUT THE HEADPHONE CABLE ATTACHED. Once the HIFI status app displayed AUX mode I then plugged in my HPs and BOOM, here comes the volume!
Anyways if you have anything to add or have any questions feel free to hit us up. When root is available I'll also make updates to this thread if need be.
Have a good one :highfive:

Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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Fabio0716 said:
Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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If you have your volume go up to 75 and it doesn't blow out your ears then it is due to the AMP being in normal mode.

I just say one thing:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!

nyttliv7 said:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
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Have you tried the mobile version of foobar2000? As it's the preferred app for FLAC files and such on the PC, I imagine the mobile version is quite good as well. I wonder how it compares to Neutron Player. I definitely will give both a shot and compare.
On the note of music players, despite making fun of it (it's quite easy to do) and being certain it would fail, I recently converted to Tidal. The quality is really astounding, and the music library is almost as complete as Spotify/etc. Additionally, some albums are available as "masters" that are actually encoded with MQA!

Your right about Tidal. It sounds awesome. The price difference isn't worth it though.

Treesap! I'm comparing those players right now! I'm listening to metal (Tesseract), jazz (Yellowjackets), all flac, and so far I like both foobar2000 and Neutron. The built in player is not satisfying me yet, except for mp3 (I See Stars - Treehouse). Does anyone know if it's necessary to disable the built in effects to make other players work independently? That's what I did with v20. Just remember how different expectations and taste we all have in regards to music/sound
And maybe I should add that I'm just a regular user (with high demand on sound quality), who can't afford too fancy earbuds or extras right now. Any advice regarding good quality sound (budget price) earbuds would be very appreciated

Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/

nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/

Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?

wwyjoe said:
Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
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Well I'm sure there's some tech guys here who can give us the correct details, but for me the answer is yes! After tuning it up for my ears, the Poweramp does it in a perfect way. If I play mp3 or flac it's giving me perfect sound all over, compared to the lg app were I had to tune it up for individual files.

have any of you engaged the DAC for streaming, for Google music in particular?
there was mention by some last year that one DAC player and an add-on app could do that for Google music. i just don't keep much on my phone and streaming is my way, so I'm still looking at taking advantage where i can. I'm running V4A on a rooted V30 now and looking at the V40's development.

nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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Poweramp improving and improving
(Poweramp-v3-build-805-uni)

I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's

nyttliv7 said:
So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.

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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Hope the following can help, and also, please correct me anyone, if my way of thinking here is some way wrong or misleading.
A assume you've already taken part of the Poweramp forum?! It's the only way to get the hi-res add-ons. And you obviously have to log in to be able to download.
I'm not 100% sure about how poweramp and the built in eq interacts, but after fiddling for a bit, it seams like what I'm sharing here works best when it comes to volume and sound. Have in mind our individual reference of sound and of course, what kind of earphones/buds you have (this is based on flac files).
You can see I've put replay gain on max in Poweramp settings. You can easily change RG in the eq later to fit individual album.
If anyone else have suggestions, please don't be shy
https://forum.powerampapp.com/files/file/37-poweramp-v3-build-807-uniapk/

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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Here's the rest:

ps3hacker3 said:
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
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I put details in the first post. Maybe you missed it?
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Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.

mtmdatlanta said:
Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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I had the V30+ what's "MQA"?