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So is it confirmed that the nexus 6 doesnt have a fingerprint scanner?

Thats my only deal breaker.

That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.

I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.

Not a deal breaker for me, but I am certainly disappointed. I was hoping for a fingerprint sensor for lastpass, and to make 2-factor authentication simpler.
The fingerprint sensors on Android phones are kind of junk right now (compared to the one on the iPhone. Every once in awhile Apple does something amazing!), so I'd rather wait until there's actually a good one, but still... I was hoping.

Pilz said:
I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.

_MetalHead_ said:
Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.

_MetalHead_ said:
That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4

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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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I'm not sure how Samsung stores your prints, but I know that the iPhone doesn't actually store any type of usable image. From apple.com- "Touch ID doesn't store any images of your fingerprint. It stores only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. It isn't possible for your actual fingerprint image to be reverse-engineered from this mathematical representation." The data is also encrypted and stored locally in a secured place on the A7 chip. Someone would actually need physical access to your phone to even attempt to get the data and even if they somehow managed to pull it off, it is still encrypted and still not an actual image. So even if Apple is wrong and it is possible to reverse-engineer your prints, it would be a colossal undertaking to end up with a usable print and you would have to be someone real important for someone else to be willing to go to those lengths to do it. That said, and please don't take this the wrong way, I think your fears might be slightly irrational, at least as it applies to fingerprint scanners in general.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.

Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening

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Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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I'm not saying it can't be reverse-engineered, but the time and resources needed to do it would far exceed the value of the print. And even so, with the fact that the would be hacker would need to be in physical possession of the device to do it- wouldn't it make more sense to just lift the prints the old fashioned way off the phone itself?

who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!

2swizzle said:
who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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And face unlock running in background.
G3

Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
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I think I gotta correct you on the reliable part, I use it daily and its just as reliable as the iphone's but I rather stay away from comparisons. Maybe I just have good prints :0. All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
As for the locked down part, I'm not sure what you mean but Tmobiles is already rooted and unlocked. They got some roms and kernels already I believe. Touchwiz isnt my favorite but has improved a bit, and I cant stand plain vanilla just bores me after a while. Then again to each his own and thats why android rocks

2swizzle said:
who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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Me personally am not wearing a watch, let alone a smart watch lol.

Your Google password can be reverse engineered and cracked a million times easier than a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. Think of the fingerprint as a 10000 character long completely random password and you'll have some idea of how hard it will be to exploit.
TouchID is the best thing ever. Samsung's fingerprint scanner also works well. Biometric security should be on every phone, its much more secure and reliable, not to mention easier to use.

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All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
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Uh, yea....
Gonna leave it at that.
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Is it possible to add oneplus 5t Face unlock feature on Oneplus 3t

Is it possible...???
if Yes...so..plz...devs....add this...feature to oneplus 3t...also....

This is just like the old fashioned Google face unlock like used way back, and abandoned due to it's apparent security flaw when people just took a photo of the persons face and used that 2D image to unlock someone's phone as this phone, as well as the 5t doesn't have the laser scanner hardware like the IPhone X. Nothing really impressive and quite insecure.

pitrus- said:
This is just like the old fashioned Google face unlock like used way back, and abandoned due to it's apparent security flaw when people just took a photo of the persons face and used that 2D image to unlock someone's phone as this phone, as well as the 5t doesn't have the laser scanner hardware like the IPhone X. Nothing really impressive and quite insecure.
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I'd like you to know that while op3t still has a face unlock feature but like you said it isnt secure
Yet it is fast and apparently the op5t face unlock is a secure one and according to just one youtuber
He couldn't fool it with a photo or even a video
I've yet to see more testing of the feature
But if its all software and somewhat secure
It's speedy unlock would be a very nice addition to op3t

[email protected]@rjnj said:
... according to just one youtuber ...
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The fact that just one yt-er says it's secure and can't be fooled is reason enough to stay away from this type of device lock.

Incanity said:
The fact that just one yt-er says it's secure and can't be fooled is reason enough to stay away from this type of device lock.
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that was because i have not seen many videos testing it
but i did see a couple more coming to the same conclusion
i have yet to see any one contradicting this conclusion

Fingerprint sensor

Wanted to start up a thread where users can share their experience with the underscreen fingerprint scanner as well as faceunlock.
I registered both thumbs and right index finger. It seems like the scanner will only read the finger correctly if the finger is placed in the same orientation as it was during the initial registration. This is a bummer.
Seems like the faceunlock unlocks the phone even before the fingerprint scanner tries to read the print.
The faceunlock is not that secure. I would go out and say it is not secure at all. My brother came to check my new phone and it unlocks the phone based on his face. I think it's only because we both have beards.
Anyway, bit disappointed, with they just stick with regular fingerprint reader on the back.
The underscreen fingerprint scanner is a tech that is not really ready for primetime. I hope this does not hinder the sales of the phone.
I am using a T-Mobile variant on 9.0.

Hi there,
So, my theory is that the finger print sensor is NOT optimized for Oxygen OS. there is a huge lag obviously compared to any previous Oneplus Phones. that being said, there are a couple of factors that can contribute:
Screen is dirty
Finger is dirty.
Try registering your fingerprint in Paypal or Cash or any of Google Pay or your banking app or any of the other programs that require a fingerprint sensor. Since it was already registered and (hopefully only) stored on the phone, these apps all registered my finger lightning (sorry apply pun) quick. NOT as fast as previous fingerprint sensors on the back, but MUCH faster, at least to me, as trying to unlock it on the screen once it's sleeping. Yes, and by the way, the sensor is NOT always on.
For instance, you have to either turn the screen on, or have the tap to unlock screen or raise to unlock screen on in order to have the sensor unlock your fingerprint.
There's also quite a few bugs i've found. To me, and I've owned every Oneplus since the 2, the T mobile version doesn't feel that optimized in terms of OxygenOS. I don't have an unlocked 6T to compare, but there's a few things that the T Mobile version doesn't include, that was announced at the presentation, since as the nice portrait mode of the camera. I am hoping that it gets updated soon, otherwise i'll just completely buy this out and sell it and pick up a RED 6 or 6T again.
Suffice to say, i'm a little disappointed. Great advertising though with EVERY tech site that this was the future, although the future is not as quick as what's going on now.
Face unlock is VERY quick, but not that secure. I agree.
If it wasn't for the larger battery and the T Mobile trade in, I would have gone back to the Oneplus 6, however, I can't find RED in 128/8.

I have multiple fingers registered and they all work fine and fast. Increasingly fast in fact ... So fast that it made me wonder if the phone was actually locked in the first place by using unregistered fingers. Works fine and fast no matter what orientation my finger is on the sensor.
I've been reading so many posts complaining about the in-display fingerprint sensor ... Saying it's slow. Glitchy. Inconsistent. I have not seen any hint of that on my new OP6T.
It seems to function as good as or better than my OP3T's dedicated sensor.

I was having issues as well so deleted all my prints and redid them this time by not pressing so hard on the screen. Now it works 10x better

I have an unlocked version and I think, in my case, it has worked better then the sensor on the back. My fingers are the nastiest , dirtiest(stained with oil and dirt) and it does better then what the back sensor ever did . It may be a touch slower but does a half second really matter ?
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Same here, works perfectly for me, I have 4 fingerprints registered, both thumbs and indexes. They all got increasingly faster with time.
My friend came over yesterday with his pixel 3xl, was worried the in screen reader would be mediocre, but he was so impressed with the performance, decided to sell his phone and order the 6t, guess he couldn't live with that notch lol

You don't even need to add multiple prints. When setting up your print, just scan in at different angles with every press. I used the same strategy with the old external scanner so my fingerprint could be picked up at odd angles, and it applies to this as well. There is no difference between this under display reader and the old external one, in terms of speed.

I came from Samsung Note8 and the sensor on the 6T is much faster than the Note 8.

Not sure what kind of weird crap ya'll are having to do to get your prints working in different angles... I simply registered mine as normal. I can do them from upside down, sideways... It doesn't matter.

I don't understand why so many seem to be having issues with this. It's by far faster and more reliable than the capacitive scanner on my old OP2. One interesting thing I've noticed is that if there is a slight delay, it's the OS not the scanner. Sometimes I'll remove my finger before the screen unlocks but the screen still unlocks, it just takes a few extra microseconds. The scan time is less than a second and it seems to work in various finger positions.

Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.

I have no issues with mine, I can unlock it from any angle on all my registered fingers. I'd recommend deleting your fingerprints and reregistering.

Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to do it.

The scanner is working fine for me.
I found that for my left thumb, training it in the way I place my finger when I pick up the phone made it fast and flawless.

Too everyone who states its laggy or slow, especially compared to previous ONEPLUS devices, remember this, the in-display fingerprint sensor is optical meaning it scans an IMAGE of your finger as reference. Hardware fingerprint sensors map a 3d layer of your finger which makes them faster and more responsive because they do not have to rely on light or image capture. I can say without a doubt tho, the oneplus 6t has the fastest optical fingerprint sensor compared to other manufacturer, including the mate 20 pro. This has also been proven in a couple youtube comparisons. Optical will never be perfect because it relies on light, pressure and image scanning. I have used the fingerprint sensor and face unlock and I am quite impressed with both, no issues at all for me. Yes they are both less secure but if people are that worried about security, stick with a PIN instead. I am by no means bickering at people, just want to relay useful information to provide a valid arguement in OnePlus' favor as they have truly optimized their unlock methods compared to others who use the SAME technology.

borijess said:
Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to it.
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I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.

Nosferatu. said:
Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.
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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.

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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:

Krunk_Kracker said:
I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.
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When I registered mine, I do the same thing I do to all my phones and I actually turn my finger in multiple directions and that seemed to work for me. I can scan it side ways and up and it works, atleast for me it did.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:
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If you do that then it may not recognized you when your shades are off. What you could try is start recodring your face with your shades on, then as it goes, take them off and see if that works

Wonder if some phones are "defective"? Mine is pretty fast.

Can Motion Sense (Soli) Be Force Enabled?

Clearly and this time, there are limitations as per launching the device to certain countries like India and Japan on wait. Project SOLI requires a certain 60ish frequency in order to work. My question is can this be force enabled to countries that don't support it? I am planning to purchase it from US but my country is not on the list that supports it so apparently it'll become useless brick when I plan to use it here.

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Clearly and this time, there are limitations as per launching the device to certain countries like India and Japan on wait. Project SOLI requires a certain 60ish frequency in order to work. My question is can this be force enabled to countries that don't support it? I am planning to purchase it from US but my country is not on the list that supports it so apparently it'll become useless brick when I plan to use it here.
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If I read correctly, no. Because it checks to see what carrier you are on and if you were not on the whitelist, then it won't work. I was actually talking to somebody from India the other day about that and I mentioned that. You could have one imported, but I don't believe it will work

Thanks mate. That's just sad. I was really looking forward on having this one. Bad move Google, really bad.

How I understand it is, it's not really Google's fault. India just won't allow the technology there. Hell, Google had to get permission from the FCC to test it, here. It is a radar after all, which is what I keep trying to tell people when they keep trying to compare it to the LG's air gestures or any other phone that had air gestures. This is a completely new animal. I feel your pain though. similar to how people felt about OnePlus only releasing the 7T in the states and not the T pro version. Not that I would have bought either, but it's a similar instance

I wouldn't write off the phone completely; some smart guys may figure out a way to bypass the checks. I'm in no way saying this will happen but somewhat similar feats have been accomplished before.

This is true as well

Any idea if FaceUnlock requires the Soli radar chip to function or would it work with MotionSense disabled?
Also, could someone please throw some light on cons of getting the phone from USA and using it in India? (Apart from the warranty and power adapter pins).?
1. Would / could it be geo blocked totally ??
2. Would FaceUnlock work without Soli?
3. Would it support Indian carrier frequencies ??
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Thanks in advance

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Any idea if FaceUnlock requires the Soli radar chip to function or would it work with MotionSense disabled?
Also, could someone please throw some light on cons of getting the phone from USA and using it in India? (Apart from the warranty and power adapter pins).?
1. Would / could it be geo blocked totally ??
2. Would FaceUnlock work without Soli?
3. Would it support Indian carrier frequencies ??
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Thanks in advance
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it's my understanding that face unlock is independent of soli. But at times it uses soli to make unlocking a little bit faster and easier, if that makes any sense. Face unlock is just a couple of IR sensors, the flood illuminator and the dot projector, that has nothing to do with soli radar, which currently is banned from India. So here's an example of it working. You lock it, then bring it to your face and double tap the screen and it will unlock. But you will not be able to use the soli side of the features that allow it to virtually unlock in a more fluid motion. Soli detects your hand approaching the device and activates the screen, then the face unlock kicks in. Without soli, you would have to manually wake the device first. So, IMO, it would not be worth importing a pixel to India, unless you were absolutely positive that you could unlock the soli feature. As far as it supporting Indian frequencies. That's basically a shot in the dark, since nobody in India has the device right now to test it. Or at least we haven't heard of anybody

All true but I'm not certain that there isn't other ways the phone may be woke because we know soli can be wholly disabled and it seems unlikely that the next step would be the physical power button. As an example it may be possible that the accelerometer will also wake up the phone, DTTW, etc. Certainly were I planning on importing it I'd want to know that because I agree that it would really ruin the ownership experience to have to hit the button to wake it up every time.

This is true, I forgot about raise to wake

ZeroKool76 said:
it's my understanding that face unlock is independent of soli. But at times it uses soli to make unlocking a little bit faster and easier, if that makes any sense. Face unlock is just a couple of IR sensors, the flood illuminator and the dot projector, that has nothing to do with soli radar, which currently is banned from India. So here's an example of it working. You lock it, then bring it to your face and double tap the screen and it will unlock. But you will not be able to use the soli side of the features that allow it to virtually unlock in a more fluid motion. Soli detects your hand approaching the device and activates the screen, then the face unlock kicks in. Without soli, you would have to manually wake the device first. So, IMO, it would not be worth importing a pixel to India, unless you were absolutely positive that you could unlock the soli feature. As far as it supporting Indian frequencies. That's basically a shot in the dark, since nobody in India has the device right now to test it. Or at least we haven't heard of anybody
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Yes, so without Soli, it would be 'just like any other Face Unlock(read: FaceID, as Google tried to emphasize)', there shouldn't be issues with the carrier frequencies too but who know if they (can/could) Geo-block it? I also understand that the e-Sim wouldn't be enabled for Indian carriers either.
Looks like Google just doesn't want the phone to be used by anyone in India.
or, let's hope they launch a Pixel4a without Soli in India.

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Yes, so without Soli, it would be 'just like any other Face Unlock(read: FaceID, as Google tried to emphasize)', there shouldn't be issues with the carrier frequencies too but who know if they (can/could) Geo-block it? I also understand that the e-Sim wouldn't be enabled for Indian carriers either.
Looks like Google just doesn't want the phone to be used by anyone in India.
or, let's hope they launch a Pixel4a without Soli in India.
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As I stated in another thread, I don't believe that it was Google's decision, but rather, India's. India wont allow the soli tech because of the frequencies it uses. At least that's my understanding. In America, they had to get permission from the FCC just to test it. But that still doesn't detract from the face unlock feature which is still the first of it's kind on an android device. I am looking forward to unlocking in the dark, rather than being blinded by an in screen fingerprint sensor

To be honest Soli itself doesn't have a big use case right now, it's actually a little surprising to me how little it's utilized when it could do so much more. I wouldn't buy this phone because of it as it is and the lack of it does little to change the phone in my mind. That is based on my own use however and others may find the current features more valuable. Longer term I expect more to be added to it and those possibilities are more what I'm interested in that what it does now. An example: Why isn't it possible to be washing the dishes, get a call I want to take, and make a motion with my wet dish washing hands to take the call and send it to speakerphone? There are many similar things I can think of right off the bat and some of them or even all of them may come to pass if they allow us to start making our own gestures and assign them to functions. That's the Soli I'm interested in, the one that doesn't exist yet.

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To be honest Soli itself doesn't have a big use case right now, it's actually a little surprising to me how little it's utilized when it could do so much more. I wouldn't buy this phone because of it as it is and the lack of it does little to change the phone in my mind. That is based on my own use however and others may find the current features more valuable. Longer term I expect more to be added to it and those possibilities are more what I'm interested in that what it does now. An example: Why isn't it possible to be washing the dishes, get a call I want to take, and make a motion with my wet dish washing hands to take the call and send it to speakerphone? There are many similar things I can think of right off the bat and some of them or even all of them may come to pass if they allow us to start making our own gestures and assign them to functions. That's the Soli I'm interested in, the one that doesn't exist yet.
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I agree, it's certainly underwhelming at this point. But the tech is there, just need Google to stick the landing with upcoming software updates, implementing new features, including your scenario.

Forcing it in unsupported countries is very likely possible to do based on my analysis of the leaked Motion Sense APKs. However, I won't share what I know about it because you'll be broadcasting on unlicensed radio waves in your country. I'm sure someone else will figure out how it's done in no time, though.

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Forcing it in unsupported countries is very likely possible to do based on my analysis of the leaked Motion Sense APKs. However, I won't share what I know about it because you'll be broadcasting on unlicensed radio waves in your country. I'm sure someone else will figure out how it's done in no time, though.
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Please let us know if you figured out if its at least possible on your unit! Is it a deal breaker though if it wouldn't work ? do you find yourself relying on it much or is it necessary and finally do the phone's other merits outweigh the lack of motion sense as i am considering pre-ordering it but really ambivalent
thanks

I've imported Pixel 4 XL to use in Indonesia and really really disappointed that I can't utilise this technology. Waiting for someone to create a utility, kernel, or anything, to force enable soli chip..

Allesa said:
I've imported Pixel 4 XL to use in Indonesia and really really disappointed that I can't utilise this technology. Waiting for someone to create a utility, kernel, or anything, to force enable soli chip..
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What are you exactly disappointed? I am not so sure to the grave of annoyance but if face unlock works with waking up the phone, I'd be happy with that. The wave gestures sure is fun but for practical use and the frequency of using it is close to none in most situations. Thanks. I am considering the phone so if you could please share your experience with the phone with its limitation atm, or anything that I should be aware, that would be of great help and appreciated.

Allesa said:
I've imported Pixel 4 XL to use in Indonesia and really really disappointed that I can't utilise this technology. Waiting for someone to create a utility, kernel, or anything, to force enable soli chip..
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Are all the features relating to Soli disabled? Or just the music gestures?

It can be enabled with root by setting a property in the device, see the mods forum.

Question Extremely torn.

I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.

SonnyKrockett said:
I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.
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about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...

AJ205 said:
about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...
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I agree. I initially wanted to get the OnePlus 10t, but the manager said that the few ppl that actually bought the device, didn't have a good experience. But he didn't say why. Thought it was odd he said that because at first he said he didn't want to sway my opinion from the P7 vs the OP, lol.