Wanted to start up a thread where users can share their experience with the underscreen fingerprint scanner as well as faceunlock.
I registered both thumbs and right index finger. It seems like the scanner will only read the finger correctly if the finger is placed in the same orientation as it was during the initial registration. This is a bummer.
Seems like the faceunlock unlocks the phone even before the fingerprint scanner tries to read the print.
The faceunlock is not that secure. I would go out and say it is not secure at all. My brother came to check my new phone and it unlocks the phone based on his face. I think it's only because we both have beards.
Anyway, bit disappointed, with they just stick with regular fingerprint reader on the back.
The underscreen fingerprint scanner is a tech that is not really ready for primetime. I hope this does not hinder the sales of the phone.
I am using a T-Mobile variant on 9.0.
Hi there,
So, my theory is that the finger print sensor is NOT optimized for Oxygen OS. there is a huge lag obviously compared to any previous Oneplus Phones. that being said, there are a couple of factors that can contribute:
Screen is dirty
Finger is dirty.
Try registering your fingerprint in Paypal or Cash or any of Google Pay or your banking app or any of the other programs that require a fingerprint sensor. Since it was already registered and (hopefully only) stored on the phone, these apps all registered my finger lightning (sorry apply pun) quick. NOT as fast as previous fingerprint sensors on the back, but MUCH faster, at least to me, as trying to unlock it on the screen once it's sleeping. Yes, and by the way, the sensor is NOT always on.
For instance, you have to either turn the screen on, or have the tap to unlock screen or raise to unlock screen on in order to have the sensor unlock your fingerprint.
There's also quite a few bugs i've found. To me, and I've owned every Oneplus since the 2, the T mobile version doesn't feel that optimized in terms of OxygenOS. I don't have an unlocked 6T to compare, but there's a few things that the T Mobile version doesn't include, that was announced at the presentation, since as the nice portrait mode of the camera. I am hoping that it gets updated soon, otherwise i'll just completely buy this out and sell it and pick up a RED 6 or 6T again.
Suffice to say, i'm a little disappointed. Great advertising though with EVERY tech site that this was the future, although the future is not as quick as what's going on now.
Face unlock is VERY quick, but not that secure. I agree.
If it wasn't for the larger battery and the T Mobile trade in, I would have gone back to the Oneplus 6, however, I can't find RED in 128/8.
I have multiple fingers registered and they all work fine and fast. Increasingly fast in fact ... So fast that it made me wonder if the phone was actually locked in the first place by using unregistered fingers. Works fine and fast no matter what orientation my finger is on the sensor.
I've been reading so many posts complaining about the in-display fingerprint sensor ... Saying it's slow. Glitchy. Inconsistent. I have not seen any hint of that on my new OP6T.
It seems to function as good as or better than my OP3T's dedicated sensor.
I was having issues as well so deleted all my prints and redid them this time by not pressing so hard on the screen. Now it works 10x better
I have an unlocked version and I think, in my case, it has worked better then the sensor on the back. My fingers are the nastiest , dirtiest(stained with oil and dirt) and it does better then what the back sensor ever did . It may be a touch slower but does a half second really matter ?
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Same here, works perfectly for me, I have 4 fingerprints registered, both thumbs and indexes. They all got increasingly faster with time.
My friend came over yesterday with his pixel 3xl, was worried the in screen reader would be mediocre, but he was so impressed with the performance, decided to sell his phone and order the 6t, guess he couldn't live with that notch lol
You don't even need to add multiple prints. When setting up your print, just scan in at different angles with every press. I used the same strategy with the old external scanner so my fingerprint could be picked up at odd angles, and it applies to this as well. There is no difference between this under display reader and the old external one, in terms of speed.
I came from Samsung Note8 and the sensor on the 6T is much faster than the Note 8.
Not sure what kind of weird crap ya'll are having to do to get your prints working in different angles... I simply registered mine as normal. I can do them from upside down, sideways... It doesn't matter.
I don't understand why so many seem to be having issues with this. It's by far faster and more reliable than the capacitive scanner on my old OP2. One interesting thing I've noticed is that if there is a slight delay, it's the OS not the scanner. Sometimes I'll remove my finger before the screen unlocks but the screen still unlocks, it just takes a few extra microseconds. The scan time is less than a second and it seems to work in various finger positions.
Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.
I have no issues with mine, I can unlock it from any angle on all my registered fingers. I'd recommend deleting your fingerprints and reregistering.
Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to do it.
The scanner is working fine for me.
I found that for my left thumb, training it in the way I place my finger when I pick up the phone made it fast and flawless.
Too everyone who states its laggy or slow, especially compared to previous ONEPLUS devices, remember this, the in-display fingerprint sensor is optical meaning it scans an IMAGE of your finger as reference. Hardware fingerprint sensors map a 3d layer of your finger which makes them faster and more responsive because they do not have to rely on light or image capture. I can say without a doubt tho, the oneplus 6t has the fastest optical fingerprint sensor compared to other manufacturer, including the mate 20 pro. This has also been proven in a couple youtube comparisons. Optical will never be perfect because it relies on light, pressure and image scanning. I have used the fingerprint sensor and face unlock and I am quite impressed with both, no issues at all for me. Yes they are both less secure but if people are that worried about security, stick with a PIN instead. I am by no means bickering at people, just want to relay useful information to provide a valid arguement in OnePlus' favor as they have truly optimized their unlock methods compared to others who use the SAME technology.
borijess said:
Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to it.
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I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.
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Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.
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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.
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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:
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I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.
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When I registered mine, I do the same thing I do to all my phones and I actually turn my finger in multiple directions and that seemed to work for me. I can scan it side ways and up and it works, atleast for me it did.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:
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If you do that then it may not recognized you when your shades are off. What you could try is start recodring your face with your shades on, then as it goes, take them off and see if that works
Wonder if some phones are "defective"? Mine is pretty fast.
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Thats my only deal breaker.
That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
Not a deal breaker for me, but I am certainly disappointed. I was hoping for a fingerprint sensor for lastpass, and to make 2-factor authentication simpler.
The fingerprint sensors on Android phones are kind of junk right now (compared to the one on the iPhone. Every once in awhile Apple does something amazing!), so I'd rather wait until there's actually a good one, but still... I was hoping.
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I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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I'm not sure how Samsung stores your prints, but I know that the iPhone doesn't actually store any type of usable image. From apple.com- "Touch ID doesn't store any images of your fingerprint. It stores only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. It isn't possible for your actual fingerprint image to be reverse-engineered from this mathematical representation." The data is also encrypted and stored locally in a secured place on the A7 chip. Someone would actually need physical access to your phone to even attempt to get the data and even if they somehow managed to pull it off, it is still encrypted and still not an actual image. So even if Apple is wrong and it is possible to reverse-engineer your prints, it would be a colossal undertaking to end up with a usable print and you would have to be someone real important for someone else to be willing to go to those lengths to do it. That said, and please don't take this the wrong way, I think your fears might be slightly irrational, at least as it applies to fingerprint scanners in general.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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I'm not saying it can't be reverse-engineered, but the time and resources needed to do it would far exceed the value of the print. And even so, with the fact that the would be hacker would need to be in physical possession of the device to do it- wouldn't it make more sense to just lift the prints the old fashioned way off the phone itself?
who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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And face unlock running in background.
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
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I think I gotta correct you on the reliable part, I use it daily and its just as reliable as the iphone's but I rather stay away from comparisons. Maybe I just have good prints :0. All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
As for the locked down part, I'm not sure what you mean but Tmobiles is already rooted and unlocked. They got some roms and kernels already I believe. Touchwiz isnt my favorite but has improved a bit, and I cant stand plain vanilla just bores me after a while. Then again to each his own and thats why android rocks
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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Me personally am not wearing a watch, let alone a smart watch lol.
Your Google password can be reverse engineered and cracked a million times easier than a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. Think of the fingerprint as a 10000 character long completely random password and you'll have some idea of how hard it will be to exploit.
TouchID is the best thing ever. Samsung's fingerprint scanner also works well. Biometric security should be on every phone, its much more secure and reliable, not to mention easier to use.
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All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
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Uh, yea....
Gonna leave it at that.
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Hi all. Just thought I'd let you know about a flaw I've found with the finger print reader.
I was showing my phone to one of my friends earlier today, naturally he was attempting to unlock the display with the finger print reader and he did just that! With his own finger print! Now his finger hasn't been registered on the device and he managed to unlock the device first time. I was a bit taken back to asked him to try again, it failed a few times then worked again. I've no idea how this would happen, if it's a software bug or a hardware issue. Either way it doesn't fill me with confidence in regards to device security.
Has anyone else experienced this bug?
Get a video of you deleting all the fingerprints and then adding your own, followed by your colleague unlocking it.
Post on YouTube and send the link to AndroidPolice etc, along with Huawei on Twitter. Either they’ll pay you a fortune to take it down, or fix it quickly. Don’t forget to get the ad money from the video.
Question.
Does your Mate have FNot acelock enabked and if so is it possible you were within range of the scanner whilst your (other) mate was trying to unlock with his finger?
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Question.
Does your Mate have FNot acelock enabked and if so is it possible you were within range of the scanner whilst your (other) mate was trying to unlock with his finger?
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Face unlock is disabled, I'm only using the finger printscanner currently
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Get a video of you deleting all the fingerprints and then adding your own, followed by your colleague unlocking it.
Post on YouTube and send the link to AndroidPolice etc, along with Huawei on Twitter. Either they’ll pay you a fortune to take it down, or fix it quickly. Don’t forget to get the ad money from the video.
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Not a terrible idea! Will get him to try again tomorrow when I see him
It's a bug, 122 fixes it. But yes anyone can replicate it . Try with your thumbs.register one, then use the other
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It's a bug, 122 fixes it. But yes anyone can replicate it . Try with your thumbs.register one, then use the other
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That would have to be a big flaw in either that software or scanner. That's insane how that worked and they have nowhere near the same fingerprint
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Not a terrible idea! Will get him to try again tomorrow when I see him
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He suggested and excellent idea, send it to phonearena and gsmarena as well, you might actually make money from this and I hope huawei actually fixes it
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Face unlock is disabled, I'm only using the finger printscanner currently
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It was worth checking
Hi, LYA-L09 from EE (UK) firmware 108. It looks like I'm the lucky one - can't replicate this issue. Got 3 fingers registered including one thumb and unable to unlock the mob using any thumb but already registered.
Mine only unlocks with the wrong finger if face unlock is also set up and my face is in view of the scanner.
Yep, many of my other pinkies unlocks my phone
I only setup my right thumb, yet I can unlock with my left index finger.
Fingerprint scanners on phones doesn't check the whole fingerprint pattern, but just bits of it, sections.
This allows the scan to be fast, to work with cut fingers, misplaced fingers or with fingers positioned differently than when the print was registered. And although a in-display fingerprint scanners works totally differently than a capacitive one, this way of recognizing only part of a fingerprint is the rule in both cases.
That's also why Apple suggested that FaceID would be actually more secure than touchid.
Now here is from my speculation bits:
Huawei is very well known for it's blazing fast fingerprint scanners, with a capacitive scanner they found a balance between secure enough (not many cases of people unlocking other people's phones) and fast enough (the logic here is simple, scan for more sections = more secure and slower scanning [and also scanning more susceptible to error] and scan for less sections = less secure, faster and less error rate).
In display fingerprint scanners are by default slower, it might be that Huawei tempered this balance of security and speed a bit to make it faster, resulting in the scanners comparing less sections of a fingerprint, thus making it less secure.
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Fingerprint scanners on phones doesn't check the whole fingerprint pattern, but just bits of it, sections.
This allows the scan to be fast, to work with cut fingers, misplaced fingers or with fingers positioned differently than when the print was registered. And although a in-display fingerprint scanners works totally differently than a capacitive one, this way of recognizing only part of a fingerprint is the rule in both cases.
That's also why Apple suggested that FaceID would be actually more secure than touchid.
Now here is from my speculation bits:
Huawei is very well known for it's blazing fast fingerprint scanners, with a capacitive scanner they found a balance between secure enough (not many cases of people unlocking other people's phones) and fast enough (the logic here is simple, scan for more sections = more secure and slower scanning [and also scanning more susceptible to error] and scan for less sections = less secure, faster and less error rate).
In display fingerprint scanners are by default slower, it might be that Huawei tempered this balance of security and speed a bit to make it faster, resulting in the scanners comparing less sections of a fingerprint, thus making it less secure.
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I do agree with this and I think that is the reason why the friend was able to unlock with his.
Mine only unlocks with the correct finger. This is nonsense thread. You guys simply have face unlock and the camera is seeing your face.
Fingerprints are much more secure than face, and it WILL NOT unlock the phone with part of a print or the wrong finger. Stop lying.
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Luinwethion said:
Fingerprint scanners on phones doesn't check the whole fingerprint pattern, but just bits of it, sections.
This allows the scan to be fast, to work with cut fingers, misplaced fingers or with fingers positioned differently than when the print was registered. And although a in-display fingerprint scanners works totally differently than a capacitive one, this way of recognizing only part of a fingerprint is the rule in both cases.
That's also why Apple suggested that FaceID would be actually more secure than touchid.
Now here is from my speculation bits:
Huawei is very well known for it's blazing fast fingerprint scanners, with a capacitive scanner they found a balance between secure enough (not many cases of people unlocking other people's phones) and fast enough (the logic here is simple, scan for more sections = more secure and slower scanning [and also scanning more susceptible to error] and scan for less sections = less secure, faster and less error rate).
In display fingerprint scanners are by default slower, it might be that Huawei tempered this balance of security and speed a bit to make it faster, resulting in the scanners comparing less sections of a fingerprint, thus making it less secure.
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Nonsense. You are spreading false crap spread by Apple to justify their bull. doesn't happen period.
Lol what a big reaction but everyone has their own opinion. The other poster was just speculating about the possibility. Don't get so worked up over it.
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Mine only unlocks with the correct finger. This is nonsense thread. You guys simply have face unlock and the camera is seeing your face.
Fingerprints are much more secure than face, and it WILL NOT unlock the phone with part of a print or the wrong finger. Stop lying.
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Nonsense. You are spreading false crap spread by Apple to justify their bull. doesn't happen period.
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Quite true, I noticed that an incorrect finger unlocked the phone but then I did a little bit of fiddling around, I have found that even at times my face has been detected at some levels where I have not had the camera pointing directly at my face. Covering the camera up and testing with other fingerprints simply wouldn't unlock the phone.
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Mine only unlocks with the correct finger. This is nonsense thread. You guys simply have face unlock and the camera is seeing your face.
Fingerprints are much more secure than face, and it WILL NOT unlock the phone with part of a print or the wrong finger. Stop lying.
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Nonsense. You are spreading false crap spread by Apple to justify their bull. doesn't happen period.
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Go read how fingerprint scanners works and the different levels of security that can be implemented.
There is a reason a phone recognize your print much faster than a scanner at a airport, at an airport the whole print is required for a match, a phone will take samples, this is not a theory, it's a fact. The more samples you need the longer it will take for the phone to unlock and the higher the error rate is.
My theory, and I stated clear that it's a theory because I've no base to support it other than my own logic, is that Huawei might have decreased the amount of samples the scanner have to check in order to unlock the phone.
PS: try at least to act like an adult.
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Go read how fingerprint scanners works and the different levels of security that can be implemented.
There is a reason a phone recognize your print much faster than a scanner at a airport, at an airport the whole print is required for a match, a phone will take samples, this is not a theory, it's a fact. The more samples you need the longer it will take for the phone to unlock and the higher the error rate is.
My theory, and I stated clear that it's a theory because I've no base to support it other than my own logic, is that Huawei might have decreased the amount of samples the scanner have to check in order to unlock the phone.
PS: try at least to act like an adult.
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I saw the same bug few days ago. I had Face unlock and my finger print on and my son wanted to play with my phone and bam.. his face unlocked my phone. Thought its just a glitch and then my wife's face unlocked it. Then they tried their finger prints and everything worked. Have to say I was very embaraased spending so much on this phone and basic things failed. However I tried to reproduce the problem afterwards but it worked fine that time. haven't checked afterwards. Shame on Huawei
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I have a S20 FE 4G (SM-G780F/ds). I had lots of issues with touchscreen and some of them were fixed after updating to android 11. How ever, I seem to have a problem with Multi-touch. I'm blind and have to use a screen reader, Which brings the need to use gestures with more than 4 fingers. When I place more than 4 fingers on the screen it goes crazy, doing everything but what it's supposed to. I installed a Multi-touch testing app and found out that the phone can't recognize all my fingers correctly. Is this something common? I mean, my old phones used to recognize more than8 simultaneous touches at once correctly. Would it be fixed If I were to take my phone to warranty and change it with a new one?
Have you received second android 11 update (January security fixes)? For me this update fixed touch issues, which I could reproduce by swiping two fingers up and down very fast. Also just tested 4 finger pinch to zoom and it is just fine. I hope this update resolves your issues.
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Have you received second android 11 update (January security fixes)? For me this update fixed touch issues, which I could reproduce by swiping two fingers up and down very fast. Also just tested 4 finger pinch to zoom and it is just fine. I hope this update resolves your issues.
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thanks for your reply; my security patch level shows January first 2021. Is this what you meant, or there's a newer update?
one more thing, could you please try with a multi-touch testing app as well?
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thanks for your reply; my security patch level shows January first 2021. Is this what you meant, or there's a newer update?
one more thing, could you please try with a multi-touch testing app as well?
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Yes, the January 1st. I tested that with some testing app. I should note that even before that my issues were not very big, only sometimes the keyboard registered additional key presses and I do not play games.
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Yes, the January 1st. I tested that with some testing app. I should note that even before that my issues were not very big, only sometimes the keyboard registered additional key presses and I do not play games.
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mine is not that bad either, except for the situation I explained before. In fact, I have no problems what so ever when using less than 4 fingers. GuessI'll be taking it to warranty service then.
I just tried multitouch tester app on my SM-G781U(US Tmobile) running latest available OTA updates and I was able to get all 10 fingers to register. However, if I moved my fingers closer together as soon as circle around one finger moved close to where my other finger was, it went a bit crazy, but I'm not sure if it's because of how this app works(circles around my fingers are pretty large) or if this phone's digitizer is still bad.
But, as a comparison I tried the same app on my LG V30 and it behaved much better. I was able to get fingers and circles much closer together, to the point where fingers were touching each other.
I recorded a short clip of both phones:
S20FE touch test:
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https://imgur.com/a/VfiDwda
It definitely looks like S20FE doesn't work as well as V30
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I just tried multitouch tester app on my SM-G781U(US Tmobile) running latest available OTA updates and I was able to get all 10 fingers to register. However, if I moved my fingers closer together as soon as circle around one finger moved close to where my other finger was, it went a bit crazy, but I'm not sure if it's because of how this app works(circles around my fingers are pretty large) or if this phone's digitizer is still bad.
But, as a comparison I tried the same app on my LG V30 and it behaved much better. I was able to get fingers and circles much closer together, to the point where fingers were touching each other.
I recorded a short clip of both phones:
S20FE touch test:
https://imgur.com/a/AxL5M5z
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It definitely looks like S20FE doesn't work as well as V30
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Hi. Thanks a lot for all tests and videos. I tested the same on my Nokia 8 and had no problems what so ever. Took my phone to warranty service and they didn't accept this as hardware issue; so no changing the device and getting a new one for me. They said It'll be fixed with updates but I hardly doubt it as Not many people are having this problem as far as I know. I'm not even sure if getting a fresh unit will solve this. I'd really appreciate any advice.
When I land my multiple fingers that are close together on display, I see ghost touches on Touch Screen Test app. Even with two fingers. It gets worse with more fingers. Samsung has already issued multiple firmware updates, which have fixed some touchscreen issues. This may be good enough for regular users but not for users who need precision touch screen experiences. I am not sure if future firmware updates can fix all the issues or Samsung is willing to do so. I doubt warranty repair can fix it unless Samsung has updated S20 FE's hardware. I would return the phone if possible and get other model. If your return window is closed, you can trade in your S20 FE for S21. The trade in program is still available in the US, and by paying $250 extra you can get a S21. I urge you to make sure S21's touch screen doesn't have the issues before going this route.
Ya, unless there's a newer revision of the hardware, I doubt getting it warranty-replaced will improve the situation. And I doubt Samsung will be putting a lot of development effort into fixing this problem. They and all the media turned their attention to the next shiny S21 but all the existing users get screwed with the inferior product.
Maybe they'll release another fix with oneui3.1 update, but by now I doubt it.
So after spending the afternoon looking over my pixel 7 and setting it up I thought I would share a few thoughts.
I have had a number of larger phones over the years so the pixel 7 is smaller than what I am used to, I wanted a smaller size though as I had had enough of my "larger" phone.
I bought the Obsidian black version and all I will say is it is a massive fingerprint magnet, also it is one slippery bugger! More so than any other phone I have had, so a case for it is a priority.
There are a few of what I would call glitches, when turning the phone on from sleep the bottom third of the screen seems very faded before normalising, is that by design? I don't know.
Also talking of the screen it seems very dull, even at full brightness.
When putting the phone to sleep and then placing it on my wireless Google charger it wakes the phone back up the show the charging details and also the time date - The time date though are not how I had it set up, they are miss aligned - is there a setting to turn this off that I have missed somewhere? (I'm not talking about the always on display - I have that turned off)
Also the charging animations... wtf! Horrible! is there a way to turn that mess off?
So what are your first thoughts/initial impressions of your Pixel 7?
Anything little bugs/glitches that annoy you?
Anything you wish you could change?
Please share your thoughts below.
Good review! Kudos
I'm in wait and watch mode on the 7, since I had early issues with the 6 Pro...
Cheers
Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
galaxys said:
Good review! Kudos
I'm in wait and watch mode on the 7, since I had early issues with the 6 Pro...
Cheers
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I had issues with the 6pro as well, bought it direct from Google the day after release.
Had multiple issues with it and Google said they thought I had a defective unit and to send it back to them and they would replace it.
However no replacement showed up and they then just refunded me.
After that little fiasco I went and bought a S21+ which is the phone I was using until today.
Maddinx said:
Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
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That's not so good
Overall I am happy with it, no major issues.
1. Face unlock seems slightly worse than the Oneplus 7T from 2019. Maybe I am mistaken as it has been a while since I used the Oneplus.
2. My screen protector doesn't make contact on the left top edge, I tried applying two. Not sure if it's the protector or phone screen. It is perfectly centered.
3. For some reason it can take a second or two to load after clicking the settings app shortcut in the quick settings menu.
4. Have had some reproducible touch sensitivity issues. Again, not sure if protector or phone but I did enable screen protector mode. Didn't have this issue with the P6.
5. Once again I have to manually force high refresh rate for Snapchat and some other apps.
6. Not sure if this is the case with the Pixel 6, but Snapchat is taking a picture of the viewfinder. Looks absolutely horrible in low light without the Gcam processing.
7. The unlock animation does not look high refresh rate.
It almost feels like I am dropping more frames navigating the UI than my Pixel 6. Although I did follow the optimization guide for the Pixel 6, so I have to do the same on the 7 and see if there is a change. This is something I feel like will probably be improved via updates, it is release day after all.
Also what do you mean by charging animations?
This phone genuinely feels like a Pixel 6 with face unlock (which should have been added to P6 via software update).
Also please share Geekbench 5 scores, I got 1010 Single-core, 2771 Multi-core. Was kinda hoping it would be higher considering the "leaked" multi-core was 4000.
Got a 75mb update and Geekbench is now 1048/3237 which is more in line with what I expected.
Jonnyswboy said:
Also what do you mean by charging animations?
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If my phone screen is turned off and I then place it on the google pixel charge stand the screen wakes and does some kind of animation, then shows the clock and charge status for a few seconds before turning off again.
I would love to be able to turn all of those animations off, they are horrible.
Mine is perfect. No issues whatsoever.
I came from a Pixel 3. The Pixel 7 is definitely heavier!
marinierb said:
Mine is perfect. No issues whatsoever.
I came from a Pixel 3. The Pixel 7 is definitely heavier!
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Try turning it on
I'm coming from a Pixel 3 XL, and I was expecting a nice upgrade, but wow, I feel like I went from a 1992 Ford pickup to a 2023 Honda Civic Type R. What a difference. From the build quality to the overall feel. It is just such a premium experience. I set it up about three hours ago, and have been playing with it for about the last two hours. This thing is perfect. And for about 1/2 the cost of my Pixel 3 XL at launch. I can see myself keeping this for the five years of security updates easy. Even if the battery starts losing charge I know I can get it replaced like I did my 3 XL, so no worries for the next five years. At least five years. Maybe more.
Maddinx said:
Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
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Mine did the same thing for the first 15 minutes or so. Rebooting helped, but it still disconnected twice. After it download all my apps (in between disconnects, so it took a long time), and I finished setting it up, the Wi-Fi has been steady strong. I guess it was new growin pains. it's been running flawlessly the past three hours.
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Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
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Good start for me so far
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I had the same issue. It wouldn't reconnect after either. Forgetting the wifi network and adding it back fixed the issue.
I bought it yesterday. I hooked up to my LG V60 and synced up everything. Really painless setup. Been steady using it. I love all the photo feature Google packs in the Pixel 7. I have had no disconnections of wifi or anything like that. Calls are clear. Really love the phone. I hate using it without a case and screen protector. But have that coming after the weekend. Got the Spigen rugged case from Amazon. My only gripe so far is the face unlock. It's a bit wonky. But the finger sensor works great.
ern88 said:
I bought it yesterday. I hooked up to my LG V60 and synced up everything. Really painless setup. Been steady using it. I love all the photo feature Google packs in the Pixel 7. I have had no disconnections of wifi or anything like that. Calls are clear. Really love the phone. I hate using it without a case and screen protector. But have that coming after the weekend. Got the Spigen rugged case from Amazon. My only gripe so far is the face unlock. It's a bit wonky. But the finger sensor works great.
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Try to redo the Face Unlock. Hold it arms length, and in a bright light area. I did that the second time, and now even when I'm sitting at a desk, and the phone is laying on top, if I double tap the screen, the Face Unlock can see me, and it unlocks instantly.
EDIT - Oh, and the calls are excellent. My first three were crystal clear. Way better than my 3 XL. I'd say better than landlines.
Phone is very fast coming from a Pixel 3. I do have to say this thing is **** huge and brick heavy. The fingerprint reader is horrible compared to a dedicated rear reader. Camera seems pretty nice, that unblur gimmick isn't production ready.
I absolutely love the screen. Feels heavy, but I don't mind it as it feels solid and I think is built well. I miss the back/feel of the pixel 2, which I don't know if people even liked that lol. My fingerprint basically never works though haha maybe I'm just registering it poorly. Came from OnePlus 8T, really missed the AOSP feel.
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I came from oneplus 8t and im in love with this pixel 7, android stock its really more beautiful than these chineses software(s) like oos12.
Face unlock is working as expected, working good except when im in a dark room with low light
My only issue for now is fingerprint scanner, it's working about 1 time on 10 i don't understand why but there's an high chance that's screen protector fault, since i did not even try without it. After the unboxing of the phone, the first thing i did was put screen protector on it then unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Except for FP Scanner, this device is amazing IMO, super fluid animation and transitions from activities. I bought it because i was tired of big screen device and for my needs the dimenions of the display are perfect.
Of course, compared to the oneplus 8t that have an amoled display, colors are better and more brilliant (on op8t) but i don't dislike OLED of the P7, maybe more safier for my eye rests
And i won't speak about comparisons of the FP scanner of these device since the one of op8t is working ALWAYS, never miss a try
My next thing to do is to try FP without any screen protector and if it's working well, to buy a new screen protector maybe better than the one i have installed
EDIT: another important thing: since is my first time with non-snapdragon device, i've noticed that this tensor G2 is working really good, always cool even with wifi-data-gps-bluetooth are on in a connected session with android auto on my car. Oneplus 8t heats up during same sessions but not the pixel 7
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I absolutely love the screen. Feels heavy, but I don't mind it as it feels solid and I think is built well. I miss the back/feel of the pixel 2, which I don't know if people even liked that lol. My fingerprint basically never works though haha maybe I'm just registering it poorly. Came from OnePlus 8T, really missed the AOSP feel.
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The screen is so good. When I first started using it I though it was a good upgrade from my 3 XL, but now after a couple days of using it, I played with the 3 XL, and wow, what a difference. If feels so light and flimsy, and the screen is so dull compared to the 7. And yes the 7 is very heavy compared to the 3 series, but it add that premium feel because of it (IMO). The entire 7's build is quality. I look at my 3 now, and it seems like a Fisher Price toy.
EDIT - Redo your fingerprints. Take your time and read what it asks. I see a lot of setups on YouTube, and they complain about the fingerprint reader, and when I watch them set it up they just spam their finger each time. It asks for a certain angle on some. Like first press normal, then the tip, then the left side, then the right side. I think a lot of people don't read what's asked each press, and then it doesn't work well for them.
The first couple of days coming from a pixel 4a ,,P7 is heavier but in a good way ,, feels premium, and so far I could not be happier ,everything is better than the 4a, sound is louder and crisper, screen more vibrant and faster scrolling, voice quality on calls are amazing, call reception has been excellent even on low bars, Have not noticed any lag with this chipset but then again Iam not a heavy user, Iam sure I will find more things better but so far 100 percent like it.
I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.
SonnyKrockett said:
I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.
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about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...
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about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...
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I agree. I initially wanted to get the OnePlus 10t, but the manager said that the few ppl that actually bought the device, didn't have a good experience. But he didn't say why. Thought it was odd he said that because at first he said he didn't want to sway my opinion from the P7 vs the OP, lol.