Help me get this beauty, that's all thanks:laugh:
No seriously, this trumps the Mix 3 by a mile. I'm in Denmark, and there are some Honor phones sold here, but would it be any trouble getting the China version? And what's everyone's bet on whether or not they'll do an international version?
Ok bye you all rock
X2. Looks like US LTE bands are almost all there. Good enough for me on At&t
On gearbest right now. Haven't looked too much into it. I'll probably wait until the facial scanner version releases in a month or two. Deciding between this and OP6T
Odds on this one getting a Global ROM/release? I can't wait much longer....
Also, if I import this one, is it possible to add or sideload the Google framework and play store? Thanks
Available at https://tradingshenzhen.com as of a few hours ago.
@emilrune according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWRYJ0E3rY you should be able to install them manually.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a GDPR compliant EU version anytime soon. (not unless they remove Yoyo totally from the EU specific version). Outside EU? No idea. The phone did make an appearance on the global version of Honor's webpage recently. (https://www.hihonor.com/global/products/smartphone/honormagic2/)
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Available at https://tradingshenzhen.com as of a few hours ago.
@emilrune according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWRYJ0E3rY you should be able to install them manually.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a GDPR compliant EU version anytime soon. (not unless they remove Yoyo totally from the EU specific version). Outside EU? No idea. The phone did make an appearance on the global version of Honor's webpage recently. (https://www.hihonor.com/global/products/smartphone/honormagic2/)
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Intriguing (or perhaps just a website goof on their behalf) re. the Magic 2 turning up on the global site. Thanks for the heads-up @Cerian. I am getting closer and closer to just say eff it and order the China version. I got a nagging feeling that this phone will never see release outside of China... But Google Framework is paramount to my devices, I have my stuff all tied up in the Google ecosystem.
Hopefully there will be a more global focused version. For T-Mobile USA, it is missing band 66, which is fairly common. Band 71 would be nice to have as well on something this modern. No band 28/29 for most Canadian 700MHz LTE either for the Bell/Telus network.
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Odds on this one getting a Global ROM/release? I can't wait much longer....
Also, if I import this one, is it possible to add or sideload the Google framework and play store? Thanks
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No need to sideload. I was surprised to find that Google services and Play store are preloaded on the Honor Magic 2 on the Chinese ROM!
I think it's related to which region you select when you setup the phone so if you choose anything but China region you see the Play Store app and Google Services are working.
The Chinese ROM has some preloaded Chinese apps, all of them can be removed. Huawei also preloaded their apps and services on the phone, some can be removed, others can be disabled and there are few that you can't touch (Wallet, AppsGallery - Huawei store, HiVoice), but eventually you get a very clean phone with Google Services working out of the box so to be honest it's really (almost) clean Global ROM out of the box.
The only thing I had to setup (except of removing the unnecessary apps) is the battery exceptions which were disabled for Google services by default for some reason (I experienced some delays in push messages, now it is better).
By the way, the Chinese ROM is also has 50-60 languages supported while a typical China ROM has Chinese and English only.
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No need to sideload. I was surprised to find that Google services and Play store are preloaded on the Honor Magic 2 on the Chinese ROM!
I think it's related to which region you select when you setup the phone so if you choose anything but China region you see the Play Store app and Google Services are working.
The Chinese ROM has some preloaded Chinese apps, all of them can be removed. Huawei also preloaded their apps and services on the phone, some can be removed, others can be disabled and there are few that you can't touch (Wallet, AppsGallery - Huawei store, HiVoice), but eventually you get a very clean phone with Google Services working out of the box so to be honest it's really (almost) clean Global ROM out of the box.
The only thing I had to setup (except of removing the unnecessary apps) is the battery exceptions which were disabled for Google services by default for some reason (I experienced some delays in push messages, now it is better).
By the way, the Chinese ROM is also has 50-60 languages supported while a typical China ROM has Chinese and English only.
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To me it seems like a better phone than the Mi Mix 3. Is there news on a global version being released ? The only thing that's holding me back is that the bootloader can't be unlocked without paying but hopefully somebody will find a solution to that. If I could root this phone, it'd be one of the best phones released so far
I would buy the china version right now if I could, problem is for me is import taxes, as it equates OT over 1000 in my local currency I have to be a registered importer, even at $999 value it will means a $200 import fee.
I have no issues with China rom, it has English language, it supports google framework what else would I need?, and later on in the future I'm sure there will be plenty of cooked roms released for this since its such a beast phone.
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I would buy the china version right now if I could, problem is for me is import taxes, as it equates OT over 1000 in my local currency I have to be a registered importer, even at $999 value it will means a $200 import fee.
I have no issues with China rom, it has English language, it supports google framework what else would I need?, and later on in the future I'm sure there will be plenty of cooked roms released for this since its such a beast phone.
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There wont be a single custom rom for it. The bootloader ist locked and you can't unlock it (except if you pay some money) no bootloader unlock -> no custom recovery -> no custom rom or kernels....
It is really sad, it used to be my new device but not with all these restrictions..
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I would buy the china version right now if I could, problem is for me is import taxes, as it equates OT over 1000 in my local currency I have to be a registered importer, even at $999 value it will means a $200 import fee.
I have no issues with China rom, it has English language, it supports google framework what else would I need?, and later on in the future I'm sure there will be plenty of cooked roms released for this since its such a beast phone.
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Don't know where you are located, but I got mine from Wonda Mobile, arrived in the UK within 2 weeks and no import duty was charged. They seem to handle the goods through regional warehouses.
I ordered through trading shenzhen it arrived to the US in 8 days..
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Hi guys, according to GSMarena it will be available from 300 $, where can I find it for that price?
On xiaomis chinese site and can only be bought in china. Otherwise expect around 400 dollars for quite som time.
cant wait to get this available in the philippines.. nice specs ... too lovely...
Just pre-ordered my Mi5 Pro through ibougou.com cannot wait for it to arrive counting down the days.
Snicholls said:
Just pre-ordered my Mi5 Pro through ibougou.com cannot wait for it to arrive counting down the days.
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Not sure I actually believe their price. They usually do this to get people to order and then email saying it was a mistake
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Best site to purchase for india?
Any suggestion
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These may also be places to purchase:
http://shop.gizchina.com/
http://www.honorbuy.com/
http://hotmid.com/
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/311331
http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/mymobiletrade
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/342812
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1153179
Cheapest I have found: https://www.ibuygou.com/p-xiaomi-mi5-qualcomm-snapdragon-820-215ghz-4gb-ram-128gb-rom-7315.html
check this : http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_294071.html a friend of mine preordered one (not this but 128GB)
Is the IBuyGou Duty Insurance something to trust? Just wondering if you will get your money back if you have to pay VAT or duty for it... Since it'll be around 130$ for me extra if they won't pay it back.
Where can I buy the pro version in Hong Kong?
seems it's gone from aliexpress pretty much on all vendor shops. wonder what's wrong...
If you live in SEA, den it is easier to get it for sure.
I think most important is if their bands are compatible with most European countries...
Do they usually release and international version of their flagships or not really?
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I think most important is if their bands are compatible with most European countries...
Do they usually release and international version of their flagships or not really?
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The bands don't change, it just has a different variation of the ROM
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The bands don't change, it just has a different variation of the ROM
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Okok, thanks!
People who buy Chinese phones like Xiaomi, usually get the Chinese version and install Google play or they wait for the international version?
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Doesn't really matter, if you get the Chinese variant you can always flash the international version of the rom, although their unlock bootloader process is a bit cumbersome. If you want it on the Chinese ROM it's not just the matter of installing Google Play, you are missing Google Services Framework so you need to get that first.
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Doesn't really matter, if you get the Chinese variant you can always flash the international version of the rom, although their unlock bootloader process is a bit cumbersome. If you want it on the Chinese ROM it's not just the matter of installing Google Play, you are missing Google Services Framework so you need to get that first.
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What if I buy the chinese version then apply for boatload unlock, then download international official ROM with google services framework?
I've been looking around to try and find out if it's available and can be used in Canada. I found the Canadian site http://xiaomi-mi.ca/ that claims to be an official Xiaomi site but every phone on there has a 5 star rating so I find this very suspect... I'm also not clear on the whole band thing as some companies discuss them as Band 1, band 2 and so on, and some use 1700/2100 MHz and so on. According to http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5-6948.php the 1700/2100 band for LTE is covered.. I think it should work no problem if I read this all correctly.
https://tradingshenzhen.com/mi5/513-xiaomi-mi5-4gb-2-15ghz.html
It is already being sold on the online shop in my country at about $40 cheaper than oneplus 6. Should I buy it? I heard that China Rom versions cannot be unlocked any more. Is there a way to convert the China Rom to global rom anytime in the future?
Only 40$ cheaper? You just need to wait about 2 weeks, than you will get it much cheaper (in China about 360€ 64GB, 400€ for 128GB and 440€ for 256GB). Even with +50€ it must be about 100€ cheaper.
Xiaomi is not Huawei, so you can unlock bootloader. After the global version is online, you can flash it on chinese version and get also full OTA support.
The next sale starts in 5 days, with about 1 Mio. devices.
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It is already being sold on the online shop in my country at about $40 cheaper than oneplus 6. Should I buy it? I heard that China Rom versions cannot be unlocked any more. Is there a way to convert the China Rom to global rom anytime in the future?
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Don't buy it, save yourself the headaches. Just wait for it to be officially released in your country.
i saw unboxings on youtube with playstore already installed, so this cant be hard..?
You can install Google on China ROM in 1 min. but you got a lot of China stuff, bloatware and notificarion problems.
I'm sure, you will see global edition in about 2 weeks.
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i saw unboxings on youtube with playstore already installed, so this cant be hard..?
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Klanac89 said:
You can install Google on China ROM in 1 min. but you got a lot of China stuff, bloatware and notificarion problems.
I'm sure, you will see global edition in about 2 weeks.
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Don't know about other sellers but where I bought mine, TradingShenzhen, it already ships with Play Store.
Otherwise there is no issue in flashing global if needed.
is there a hardware difference like the bands supported?
I'm in China the mi8 no google service
I went to see mi8 in the xiaomi home
the hands Feel is not very good, and it is still MIUI9 system, feel strange. but mi 8SE is relatively small, feel good, but still no google service。 if any want to buy , Buying in China is easy。4+64G CH$2699 about $422.
I was planning on importing a few P30 Pro's from China to the US. Have a cousin who sells phones over there on commission and was planning to help her out.
Will there be any problems with the Chinese version in the US? I assume I can load a google play store APK. I am using T-Mobile for my provider. I think the modem and bands for T-Mobile and the P30 would work too?
Hoping there wont be many problems. Thanks!
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I was planning on importing a few P30 Pro's from China to the US. Have a cousin who sells phones over there on commission and was planning to help her out.
Will there be any problems with the Chinese version in the US? I assume I can load a google play store APK. I am using T-Mobile for my provider. I think the modem and bands for T-Mobile and the P30 would work too?
Hoping there wont be many problems. Thanks!
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You won't be able to change launcher (well you can if you install a secondary launcher and remove the stock one via adb) and also you will be missing some lte bands.
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You won't be able to change launcher (well you can if you install a secondary launcher and remove the stock one via adb) and also you will be missing some lte bands.
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I think the phone is missing band 66 and 71? Let me know if I am wrong. I know that band 71 isnt coming to my area in a long time. How do I check what band my area is using?
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I think the phone is missing band 66 and 71? Let me know if I am wrong. I know that band 71 isnt coming to my area in a long time. How do I check what band my area is using?
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Yeah 66, you can refer here.Not really sure about the area specific part.
How much is it in China? L29?
so are there no problems with the China version such as plagued the Mate 20 pro? for example, google assistant and google pay work without problems on the china p30? is there another thread? I can't seem to find one
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so are there no problems with the China version such as plagued the Mate 20 pro? for example, google assistant and google pay work without problems on the china p30? is there another thread? I can't seem to find one
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It'll be the same as there's no google support in china. Why don't you order from Malaysia or Singapore ? Its L29 global version and much cheaper. Pm me if you need some help.
JJay666 said:
It'll be the same as there's no google support in china. Why don't you order from Malaysia or Singapore ? Its L29 global version and much cheaper. Pm me if you need some help.
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Are you speaking from experience or just saying this because google play is not installed by default on phones and google is blocked in China? These were specific issues with the last phone.. google assistant and google pay problems.
With the Mate 20 pro, Huawei made it easy to install the play store (so that means services was also installed)
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Are you speaking from experience or just saying this because google play is not installed by default on phones and google is blocked in China? These were specific issues with the last phone.. google assistant and google pay problems.
With the Mate 20 pro, Huawei made it easy to install the play store (so that means services was also installed)
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Playstore isn't an issue. Framework already comes pre-installed. You just need to install the apk however most sellers already do this for you. Almost all china models comes with google framework pre-installed now. In regards of the voice assistant when you press the power button, that i'm not sure if you'll be able to set google assistant. Main issue will be the obvious chinese recovery menu and a few bloatware and the ability to not change the launcher. You can get the launcher changed by installing a secondary launcher and debloating the stock one via adb. China version won't pass safetynet too.
With Chinese Rom you will get Chinese bloatware as which can be partially deleted from the face of it, and also some no delectable apps like Huawei voice assistant and browser, and you will spot some Chinese font here and there like contacts apps bringing up Chinese yellow book contacts.
I'm looking for a version that supports North American bands and from what I understand, the 12gb/512gb one should be the only one that does.
But I also stumbled upon this listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000182288484.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.24fcc18esuf2nD
Which supposedly is 8gb/128gb with North American bands. From what I understand this version shouldn't exist? It also mentions both 2x2 MIMO and 4x4 MIMO so I have no idea which it actually has.
In the description it says: "Tips: CN version, Officail Global Firmare,Mulit Language , Support Google Play and OTA upgrade"
Are they trying to say that it's the Tencent version but with global ROM? I thought OTA upgrades currently don't work on the global ROM?
They also write: " About package and firmware: we'll open the original box to check the phone and install Multi language ROM and Google paly store. Official ROM will be prefered. if custom translation may doesn't cover all the Menus. Not support OTA Update. we may update the ROM. So the OS version may different as the sreenshots."
But I think they have this as a disclaimer on all their phone product pages, whether it applies or not.
I'm trying to determine whether the listing is legit or not and whether to place an order. Did they make a mistake/ are they lying about the bands? Or is there an actual version like this/ did they manage to do something to the Tencent version? In terms of reputation, there's nothing particularly suspicious about the seller so I wouldn't imagine they would outright lie, but it's also a pretty big mistake to make, especially since they highlight the key specs (and bands) in red.
I'm leaning towards the "don't trust" side, with this one, but what do you think?
IMO, you would be better off waiting a few more days till the global version is released. That's a China version with global software, which has been nothing but trouble for most of the people i have heard about that converted.
They already told you.
This is china tencent edition. The phone is not is not brand new, we will open the box, we will turn on you phone, we will root it and unlock the bootloader, in order to replace CN ROM with WW ROM.
So, it will be 2x2, it will lack most bands, it will lack the cover and the cooling accessory included in Ww edition, which will be launched on 30th of September.
Of course, no warranty at all from ASUS and you may have trouble with NFC payments and banking apps. Some other apps may recognise your modified rom, too.
If you are ready, acknowledging all this, you can buy it asap.
For those that have the China variant abroad, can you provide your thoughts and experiences thus far? Thought it would be nice to have a centralized thread for those considering to pick up a China variant over the Global one.
Some issues of interest...
Network Connectivity (despite missing bands)
Calls & Visual Voicemail
Issues with Google Services
App functionality
Backup and Sync of phone, apps, etc
Language limitations
MIUI Updates
Cost and Customs fee
No current issues in UK using Sky and EE. Bought from Wondamobile, no customs and currently using FedEx via Singapore and Paris.
My cloud and back up working just fine as is the mini Google apps set. Will go EU ROM once bootloader is unlocked next Thursday.
Sathelp said:
No current issues in UK using Sky and EE. Bought from Wondamobile, no customs and currently using FedEx via Singapore and Paris.
My cloud and back up working just fine as is the mini Google apps set. Will go EU ROM once bootloader is unlocked next Thursday.
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On your China ROM, is Google PAY working with UK banks?
I'm wary of ordering the China model if it doesn't work. Unlocking the bootloader and then getting Google Pay to work is much more difficult since Feb when Google changed things so I'd keep it locked.
P. S. Is wifi calling with EE working too?
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On your China ROM, is Google PAY working with UK banks?
I'm wary of ordering the China model if it doesn't work. Unlocking the bootloader and then getting Google Pay to work is much more difficult since Feb when Google changed things so I'd keep it locked.
P. S. Is wifi calling with EE working too?
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Google Pay (and banking apps) working perfectly for me with UK banks.
You have to change default wallet within the phone settings from MI Wallet to HCE wallet (takes seconds).
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Google Pay (and banking apps) working perfectly for me with UK banks.
You have to change default wallet within the phone settings from MI Wallet to HCE wallet (takes seconds).
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Oooh that's encouraging! Thanks for the info.
Two others questions then please...
1) Does Android Auto work?
2) Can you assign the Google Discover feed to the left of the homescreen?
Android auto doesn't work for me unless someone has a fix. I have random issues with opening drive links etc too. Will try eu rom Tuesday afternoon
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Oooh that's encouraging! Thanks for the info.
Two others questions then please...
1) Does Android Auto work?
2) Can you assign the Google Discover feed to the left of the homescreen?
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Android Auto - appears to work perfectly. Only installed to test and don't actually use it at all but it seems fine.
Google Discover - I haven't found a way to do that I'm afraid (I'm also a fan of it). Best workaround I've found is adding Google search widget to home screen. If you press the 'G' symbol on that, it essentially loads Google Discover.
When I plug android auto in I just get a miui USB popup not sure, can't get auto to connect to the car
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When I plug android auto in I just get a miui USB popup not sure, can't get auto to connect to the car
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Me neither flashing global on Friday!
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Google Pay (and banking apps) working perfectly for me with UK banks.
You have to change default wallet within the phone settings from MI Wallet to HCE wallet (takes seconds).
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Can report the same for using the Chinese version with philippines banks and payment services...
Everything is
YoSoyCarlosG said:
Me neither flashing global on Friday!
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What's the differences in global and eu ?
Does anyone know yet?
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For those that have the China variant abroad, can you provide your thoughts and experiences thus far? Thought it would be nice to have a centralized thread for those considering to pick up a China variant over the Global one.
Some issues of interest...
Network Connectivity (despite missing bands)
Calls & Visual Voicemail
Issues with Google Services
App functionality
Backup and Sync of phone, apps, etc
Language limitations
MIUI Updates
Cost and Customs fee
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Except for chinese bloatware and -1 screen using chinese apps, there is no difference.
Ah, you need to find a google play store apk, but that takes like 5 mins
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What's the differences in global and eu ?
Does anyone know yet?
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There are differences in the bands. Yes 4G and 5G will work but not 5G N78 that's the 3.5ghz frequency.
So don't expect blazing fast 5G speeds on CN version.
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There are differences in the bands. Yes 4G and 5G will work but not 5G N78 that's the 3.5ghz frequency.
So don't expect blazing fast 5G speeds on CN version.
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I got 250MB/s yesterday on the Chinese version
Not great by 5g standards but coverage is patchy in my city and I wasn't in direct line of sight of it....
That was sitting in a restaurant
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What's the differences in global and eu ?
Does anyone know yet?
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EU ROM is basically a community led Custom ROM with good support based on the China ROM.
Global is the ROM Xiaomi officially puts on the models of their phones they launch internationally. It uses google messages, dialer, etc by default.
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I got 250MB/s yesterday on the Chinese version
Not great by 5g standards but coverage is patchy in my city and I wasn't in direct line of sight of it....
That was sitting in a restaurant
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Actually it was a response on @linnil that the devices ARE different...in regards of bands.
For me one of the reasons to order Global Version.
As I said 5G and 4G wil work but not on all frequencies.
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There are differences in the bands. Yes 4G and 5G will work but not 5G N78 that's the 3.5ghz frequency.
So don't expect blazing fast 5G speeds on CN version.
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I live in a country that uses n78 exclusively
I have seen screenshots posted of 500-700mb
Although I got about half that
On kimovil.com it says the 5g 4g 3g and 2g bands are the same but that could be erroneous
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Actually it was a response on @linnil that the devices ARE different...in regards of bands.
For me one of the reasons to order Global Version.
As I said 5G and 4G wil work but not on all frequencies.
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Different people have different needs. 250mb vs 700mb per second doesn't worth extra few hundred bucks imho. But are more than good enough. But it is just me.
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Different people have different needs. 250mb vs 700mb per second doesn't worth extra few hundred bucks imho. But are more than good enough. But it is just me.
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What extra bucks?? On AliExpress Global cost the same as CN version.
However Trading shenzhen lowered the prices now. But not when I ordered.
But my point was you claimed they are the exact the same.... Some users may be disappointed afterwards.