I've seen this problem all over the internet for quite a few years on many different models of phones and Android. I have it happening on both my 6P and Note 9, figured I'd post here since it's the newer device.
It's mainly happening with Greenify and App Volume Control Pro. I already did all the fixes I've found online, such as making sure the apps are not being optimized by battery optimization settings, and whitelisting them in any where else that might be causing them to be disabled. The only thing I've not done is lock the apps in the recent apps viewer from being closed when you tap close all because it shouldn't matter anyways, I don't leave them open (truthfully I rarely open the actual apps anyways). They don't need to be left open to do their things, that's what persistent notifications are for, to make sure they keep running in the background. Now that I notice though, Greenify does not have a persistent notification on the Note for some reason. I checked all settings, it's not blocked or hidden anywhere. IDK. And AVCP doesn't have one on either device, don't think it ever has for as long as I've been using it. Can only lock apps in the recent list on the Note anyways afaik. (But this issue isn't happening to anything else under accessibility access settings)
I don't use programs like CCleaner or anything, the only thing similar I have on the devices is Samsung's Device Maintenance app, but that obviously is only on the Note so I don't see how it's the cause since it's happening in the 6P as well.
Both phones are running Oreo 8.1. The only thing not stock is that I have elementalx and TWRP installed on the 6P, otherwise it's the stock ROM and whatnot, no root.
This problem happens what I will say is randomly, because it can happen after rebooting the phone or after waking it up. Whether that seems to be 10 minutes or 10 hours doesn't seem to matter. Checking my accessibility has just become habit. The way I first found this was happening was because AVCP makes a toast message when I open an app that I have it set to change the volume for, like a game. The messages were not popping up so I looked into things a bit more when it kept happening.
Anyone have any suggestions other than what's been said in the past?
Same Problem, my device : Vivo Nex S 8/128gb Android Oreo 8.1 no stock rom it has Funtouch OS and no solution for the Bug/Issue.
I don´t know what keeps accessibility resetting several times a day. very annoying!
The knowledge in your article is very useful, thank you
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Last night I was at home and noticed my wifi wasn't on, so I used the quick settings in the shade to toggle it. After a few seconds, wifi connected, and some unknown app took focus and closed repeatedly. After a few moments, it stopped and all was well.
I thought it was strange, so I turned wifi back off and the same thing happened. I rebooted, tried again, and got the same result. I was trying to think of a way to see what was happening, so I tried using the Screen Record function in Gravity Box, which didn't help much, because it happens so fast, and no info is displayed, just a black window that goes away quickly.
I then turned on the CPU usage in Developer Options to see if anything consistently came to the top when toggling. I saw a few apps each time Plume (Twitter), and Maildroid (email) were two of them. Both of these apps behave differently on wifi and 3G/4G (push vs. pull), so thought -maybe- it could be something with that. I uninstalled both of those, rebooted and tried again, getting the same result.
I recorded the screen when this was happening with the CPU usage displayed, and was wondering if anyone has any ideas? I don't really want to uninstall and reinstall EVERY app on my phone, so I was hoping someone may have seen this before or see something I'm missing when watching it happen.
Video: https://copy.com/8L6VTsqcdbUjVTz
Thanks for any input anyone can offer!
Do you check virus from your phone ?
I am also having this, seems to be due to 4.4.2 OTA, which I continue to delay as I am rooted.
Mine doens't only happen with wifi change, but also just randomly when using hangouts, keyboard stays out but hangouts min -> maxes quickly. I have tried freezing the update apps but it apparently didn't do anything as I was still asked to update earlier.
Only hangouts? I have that app disabled.in the app settings.
I can't say for sure that being on 4.4.2 fixed it, but I am on 4.4.2 now and it is not happening anymore.
I unlocked my bootloader and did the 4.4.2 SBF, unlocked and rooted. I installed probably 99% of the same apps (only ditched 1-2 that I never used anymore) and I am not having the flashing issue anymore.
Hard to tell for certain if the pending OTA was the cause, but it may have been.
I seem to have been bitten by whatever it is that's causing Note 8s to freeze. In my case, it seems to freeze when idle - case closed, always-on display showing a clock. Sometimes the digital clock - just stopped; the last time, the analog clock with the second hand ticking, but an otherwise unresponsive phone.
It seems like this is happening to other people, in a variety of other applications - and the only advice anybody is giving is to see what happens in safe mode, then uninstall applications one-by-one. All of which seems rather time-consuming, and counter-intuitive -- if a single App is freezing the system, that suggests on o/s or hardware issue -- the o/s should be isolating the rest of the system from app misbehavior.
Which leads me to wonder how one might track down what's actually going on. If this were one of our servers, I'd crank up logging and look at crash logs. But... those options don't seem to be available without rooting the phone. (Why does Google insist on making syslogs unreadable by normal users - that puts a big crimp in the ability to do any kind of real trouble diagnosis.)
Any suggestions on how to do crash analysis? Any tools that someone can recommend?
Any insight on the matter?
I have not had this problem, so I would not know how to tackle all down to pinpoint the exact culprit, but I would start by controling what apps I dont want to run in background, in maintenance>battery>always sleeping, I put all the apps I dont need to be in always running state, I would also try to unistall or freeze apps I installed just before the problem began, if you have bk disabler this is a rather easy process, as you can batch-disable/enable apps, in the end it is a trial-error exercise
You can use logcat extreme, Catlog or somthing similiar from playstore. But you need some knowless to see wat happend and root. Perhaps you can pull the log file without root to your computer with ADB.
Sounds like impending motherboard failure. My wife's S7 Edge started doing the same thing then one day it just wouldn't start up at all.
Common thing for Samsung phones unfortunately .... and if you're out of warranty they won't repair without a charge.
Yesterday a toast I guess you would call it because it's not the normal gray color started showing up quite frequently on my phone. I haven't made any changes or installed new apps recently with the exception of about 8 malware scanners. I installed one at a time scanned then uninstalled. I'm at a loss for what could be causing this and how to fix it. I tried resetting the app preferences regarding draw over other apps but the problem persists. I Googled it with no results so I put it in quotes for a more specific search and it turned up absolutely zero. It troubles me to ever have in there but even more so that it's one I haven't seen before. I included a screenshot because sometimes it pops up multiple times in a row back to back so it was easy to capture. I'm hoping somebody has at least saw this before. I'm on Android 7.1.1 unrooted unlocked Note 8. Any help or ideas is appreciated.
Nobody has even seen this before? I turned off every single thing on the draw over other apps section of settings including system apps and it still keeps popping up.
Try booting in safe mode to see if it still happens
Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decide for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.
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Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decides for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.
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Thank you for this.
I've been feeling stupid having all these issues of pass getting killed in the background.
For me proper working phone is more important than battery life. I can easily get one whole day 6AM-11PM with around 30% battery left.
I would be ok if the apps won't get killed and I have say, 10% battery left at the end of the day.
I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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I want to say you're right but it's not only OnePlus that has too aggressive background killing. Google put optimization into Android a couple of years ago and they can't seem to hit a perfect medium between both. I'm sick of switching apps and then going back into an app a couple of minutes later to just have to start at the top of the feed again. It's annoying and it's happened with my 6t, Moto z, Droid turbo, lg g4, and my Galaxy s6 when they were all in their "prime". I think it boils down to Google ultimately
Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.
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Yes, I am. But the screen dims. It doesn't turn off but it dims. For in car navigation that is clearly undesired.
I wonder whether rooting would give me back the control I need through some third party modification...
Aridon said:
Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.
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But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
Whats solitions.
İ open accebility settings for any app and closed automatical..
Whyy
I'm sorry for my bad english
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But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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You find solitions ?
I'm sorry for my bad english
gorman42 said:
But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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What most of the times work for for me is open the app, then go to recent app management, click on the 3 dots in the upper right corner above the app and choose lock.
And thanks for the tip of this app, because of company policy "stay awake" was disabled on my device and this app overrides it (Earlier I tried 2 or 3 similar apps but they didn't work, this one does).
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You really shouldn't have to modify your phone to, by chance, fix what OnePlus did (same could be said about other OEMs too, but that's besides the point right now). OnePlus needs to fix this issue, which has been an ongoing thing in their ROMs for over two years.
It's a shame that it takes a few app devs getting bad reviews on their apps to come up with a website pointing out the offenders of aggressive app management, with OnePlus being number 2 on the list for this issue to pick up traction, despite numerous users reporting about it on their forum and via in-app feedback for so long.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: Compared to OxygenOS on the 3T, OxygenOS nowadays has become so nice to use on the 6T that I don't have a need to root anymore. It's just this issue that really hampers it.
I fell in love with OnePlus when I bought my very first OnePlus phone, the OnePlus 3T. I've since then owned the OnePlus 5T and 6T. Unfortunately I've been disappointed with both because of this specific issue. If they don't resolve this issue within the lifetime of my 6T I feel obligated to start looking for something other than a OnePlus phone next Such a shame, as I love everything else about OnePlus and OxygenOS.
While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.
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While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.
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Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.
wilpang said:
Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.
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Yeah, I tried before writing here.
It happens when you disable Adaptive Battery. If Adaptive Battery is enabled, those settings are active.
I have the same issues with several apps (Tasker, Gravity Screen, Whatsapo (Web)...). The apps was running perfectly on my old lg g4 but on the OPO 6T they gets killed too often. Also disabled adaptive Battery and set those apps to dont optimize. But this doesnt helps....
In previous OOS on the 5T there was an setting for background apps count in developer options, this is sadly gone on our 6T. Is there a way to use this option also when removed from dev options?
(maybe editing some files).
Thx
Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A6013 mit Tapatalk
Yes this is very unfortunate.. sometimes I even miss calls and they straight to voicemail
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Yes, it is a problem for me. Never had a phone with such aggressive battery management. It even periodically kills my wifi for no reason.
There are 3 settings under Settings > Battery:
1. Battery Saver
2. Battery optimization
3. Adaptive Battery
I have been able to get a somewhat 'normal' experience after turning all 3 options off for Whatsapp, Tasker, etc... For some programs, it seems that it needs to be started, and left running without closing the program in 'Recentd's..
I am rooted and use Greenify to close programs that I want killed when in the background..
@gorman42
Why do you need this staying-alive app?
Google Maps and Waze already make the device's screen stay awake while navigating...
Hey All.
I have always used AOD as a night clock whilst its charging vertically.
But with this phone the AOD always goes off after about an hour.
Which sort of defeats the point of the feature really.
the setting is set to ALLDAY aswell.
is this a fault or is this how it is with phone.
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Hey All.
I have always used AOD as a night clock whilst its charging vertically.
But with this phone the AOD always goes off after about an hour.
Which sort of defeats the point of the feature really.
the setting is set to ALLDAY aswell.
is this a fault or is this how it is with phone.
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chinese version?
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chinese version?
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nah uk
Possibly power management of some type shutting it down?
I use to think always on AOD was a darling... now I only use tap on.
Lol, I sort of like how yours behaves; it waits for you to go to sleep.
blackhawk said:
Possibly power management of some type shutting it down?
I use to think always on AOD was a darling... now I only use tap on.
Lol, I sort of like how yours behaves; it waits for you to go to sleep.
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pretty sure i have looked at most settings that could possibly effect this.
maybe its just the way it is.
it kinda bugs me at night when i wake up disorientated not knowing the time.
always something i have been used to with previous phones.
stuatrb04 said:
pretty sure i have looked at most settings that could possibly effect this.
maybe its just the way it is.
it kinda bugs me at night when i wake up disorientated not knowing the time.
always something i have been used to with previous phones.
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I hear you. Best to ignore the phone and sleep.
Always being "connected" detrimental to your wellbeing. Quiet time is very underrated.
Lots of power management settings scattered throughout the phone, usually.
Check to see if global power management is running first: Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active. It can't be disabled here though.
Check each apk being used for AOD. Make sure they have needed permissions and that battery saving isn't checked.
Disable any power management including Android, 3rd party, carrier or manufacturer ones.
Try in Safe mode.
Clear system cache and AOD data.
Make sure screen lock isn't interfering with AOD.
With a factory reset even if it works the issue will likely reoccur. Exception is if a 3rd party app altered user hidden settings, this can and does occasionally happen with poorly written apps. Sometimes only after you uninstall them
Play with it, find the root cause... fun isn't it?
blackhawk said:
I hear you. Best to ignore the phone and sleep.
Always being "connected" detrimental to your wellbeing. Quiet time is very underrated.
Lots of power management settings scattered throughout the phone, usually.
Check to see if global power management is running first: Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active. It can't be disabled here though.
Check each apk being used for AOD. Make sure they have needed permissions and that battery saving isn't checked.
Disable any power management including Android, 3rd party, carrier or manufacturer ones.
Try in Safe mode.
Clear system cache and AOD data.
Make sure screen lock isn't interfering with AOD.
With a factory reset even if it works the issue will likely reoccur. Exception is if a 3rd party app altered user hidden settings, this can and does occasionally happen with poorly written apps. Sometimes only after you uninstall them
Play with it, find the root cause... fun isn't it?
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ah some things there that i havent tried.
will play around and report back.
yea the joys of android!!!
stuatrb04 said:
ah some things there that i havent tried.
will play around and report back.
yea the joys of android!!!
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Feels good when you track it down.
I've tracked (and caused, oops) a few bizarre ones down
Stock Androids are generally very robust platforms.
Lately I have had a Oneplus 9, Oneplus 9 Pro and a Oneplus 10 Pro. In all of them, from Android version 12 (it also happens in 13), what is said here happens (AOD turns off at night even if it is programmed so that it is always active).
From what I see here, either it is a bug that has been introduced since the Oneplus and Oppo software were unified, or it is a crap that Google has put in Android since version 12 that there is no way to fix Because I've been trying things for a long time and reading in forums and websites and no solution to this problem is found anywhere.
For those of us who use our mobile phones as a nightstand clock, it is a great disappointment.
dtvenom said:
Lately I have had a Oneplus 9, Oneplus 9 Pro and a Oneplus 10 Pro. In all of them, from Android version 12 (it also happens in 13), what is said here happens (AOD turns off at night even if it is programmed so that it is always active).
From what I see here, either it is a bug that has been introduced since the Oneplus and Oppo software were unified, or it is a crap that Google has put in Android since version 12 that there is no way to fix Because I've been trying things for a long time and reading in forums and websites and no solution to this problem is found anywhere.
For those of us who use our mobile phones as a nightstand clock, it is a great disappointment.
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Welcome to XDA.
Tap on works fine for me and uses less battery. Constantly looking at the time when you should be sleeping is counterproductive and a bad habit to get into. For me the novelty wore off after about a year as I find it now annoying.
It's the same on OnePlus 8T, Oxygen OS 13. At least after midnight, maybe earlier, the screen turns black with AOD always on after roughly 25-30 minutes if non use. Double tap or more activates it again.
It's broken for people who is working nights and/or is awake and active after midnight.
There's gotta be a setting fixing this through root or adb shell.