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I am using a galaxy Camera with Lapse it pro (since it doesn't come with any time lapse features) and regardless of any of the settings it still takes 2 seconds per picture (trying to get to 1/2 or 1 second). I know the camera will take 20 pictures in about 3 or 4 seconds using continuous shoot mode . Any ideas on how to speed it up, I'm trying to get to shoot a project during it's creation.
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That is odd, I just downloaded it. changed the settings as low as I could, still, every 100 milsec. I think the main camera uses the ram to do the rapid shot, where as this program dont. will have to see if a file modification can make it work faster.
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I felt bad when tried at showroom, it took a little bit of time to save picture. But when I bought it and be installed latest 5.1.1, the time to take and save a picture is less than 1 second.
I think camera app start-up is reasonable but the shutter lag is unacceptable. I once photographed a seagull standing on a bridge and it was still standing when I pressed the shutter but the sensor captured it flying away...
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Not good. App takes too long to start, can't take quick bursts of photos and the images take too long to save. It's a real shame.
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I agree. Really not good at all, especially since many other phones on the market take photos in the blink of an eye.
Long time Sony fan. App launch and shutter lag pathetic. Sometimes it takes 3 - 5 seconds to actually take the picture!
It's really bad with Flash ON/Auto, much quicker if you switch it off.
Since Marshmallow it's a little bit better, but it's still way slower than the Galaxy S6/S7. Even my old Galaxy Note 3 was faster. I expected better from that phone in the camera department, and I don't blame the sensor... I think the app is the culprit. Compared to Samsung, LG, HTC and Apple, Sony probably has the worst stock camera app
I think the only way you can minimize it is using the shutter button. Using the on-screen button will slow it down cause more lag because it autofocuses once again. The thing is the Z5 always captures the frame directly after "capture" instead of the current frame. I had an old Sony point-and-shoot from over 10 years ago and it was able to pause immediately to save the frame the moment the button was pressed.
It's even worse on third-party apps because taking a picture causes the camera to autofocus first and struggle for a considerable time before taking the picture.
It's probably poor optimization but I highly doubt Sony will fix it, even though it seems to have improved in the X/X Performance. Now they're claiming 0.6 shutter response from standby and "nearly instantaneous" normal shutter response.
apart than camera launch time, that is depending on various parameters, disable the "photo analyzer" app. The picture save time will be increased dramatically as the phone will not search for faces , etc
Timing to take picture is fast,there is no phone on the market that focusing faster than Z5.Only when you taking bigh resolution photos 23/20 mpx phone needs about second or two to save it.
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Depends on conditions. The camera is very slow at auto-focus. In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticable shutter lag. At night and/or moving target, it can be a few seconds enough that you miss whatever you were trying to video. Video seems to always take a few seconds to start recording. The camera also does not seem to support zoome of any kind. If I attempt to zoom at all, the picture quality seems to become horrible for some reason.
As for time from screen off, it seems to vary. sometimes the camera app is up in less than a second, sometimes I have to wait a second or two.
last day I worked with my friend's LG v10 fast and smooth UI and great Pictures that I never had chance to took with 23 megapixel z5!
SOC 810 IN Z5 and 808 in v10 and 23 megapixel against 16 , something wrong that Sony can't fix this ! yet.
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Depends on conditions. The camera is very slow at auto-focus. In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticable shutter lag. At night and/or moving target, it can be a few seconds enough that you miss whatever you were trying to video. Video seems to always take a few seconds to start recording. The camera also does not seem to support zoome of any kind. If I attempt to zoom at all, the picture quality seems to become horrible for some reason.
As for time from screen off, it seems to vary. sometimes the camera app is up in less than a second, sometimes I have to wait a second or two.
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Can you show a screen-recording showing there's no shutter lag? Many users here have noticed - take a picture of cars passing by and you can see it always skips a frame (I would estimate 1/20 of a second).
Xperia X boasts 0.6 second capture from startup yet they won't bring such optimizations onto the Z5. perhaps some of it is due to the hardware, but just about EVERY other high-end phone has nearly no shutter lag, even those with 20+MP sensors.
I said " In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticeable shutter lag." A car passing by isnt stationary so the auto-focus has to do some work. I don't think 1/20 of a second is noticeable to most people. I mean most movies are around 1/24 of a second and you dont notice. I think for a real camera, 1/6th of a second is about average. 1/20th might be for pre-focused.
I dont have another camera so I can't time it. I tried using a timer on my laptop and taking a photo of my screen while clicking my mouse to start the timer at the same time.
If my phone is in the right mood, using the camera button, I can get a photo off in just less than 2 seconds.
The shutter lag seemed to be about 0.3 seconds. Now if I repeatedly tapped the shutter button, it seemed to be as fast as 0.1 seconds.
So in the right conditions, I think it is pretty fast. In the wrong conditions, its horrible.
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I said " In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticeable shutter lag." A car passing by isnt stationary so the auto-focus has to do some work. I don't think 1/20 of a second is noticeable to most people. I mean most movies are around 1/24 of a second and you dont notice. I think for a real camera, 1/6th of a second is about average. 1/20th might be for pre-focused.
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I already half-pressed the shutter button so that autofocus is locked - it still captures the frame after the screen flashes. Using manual mode at 8MP with sports mode speeds things up a little bit. Some people on this forum have disabled thermal throttling and the lag is significantly reduced, but is still present. The final capture press after autofocus is determined should be virtually instantaneous regardless of conditions, as it is on iPhone, Samsung Galaxy and many other phones. While there is still some input lag (which is something like 5ms) and the autofocus also slow things down, this is what companies call "zero shutter lag" - even if it isn't 100% true it is still reasonable. Sony Xperia always skips a frame after the shutter button is pressed and that is your final image. This may seem like nothing but for action shots this is unacceptable. And it's not because the sensor is higher resolution as HTC M9+ Supreme Camera Edition has a 21MP Sony sensor that is just as fast as the iPhone 6 or Galaxy S7. So currently, the Z5 is a terrible choice for instant action shots.
It's even worse for video - it always takes me 1-2 seconds for the phone to film the first video. A second video is much faster, but videos showing the Xperia X has much faster video capture on the first go.
I remember Kit-Kat times and Sony burst mode.
Some users now what i am talking about...
Guys what is going on. Software should be faster and faster... I personally bought z5 mainly because of the promises that camera is top nodge and now i can see that is not... Period and i am sory to say that, as huge Sony fan.
Bottom line is that you can have all MP in the world, fancy smancy auto focus, addons and so on, when post-processing is bad, user experience is bad allso.
I'm also annoyed that video and camera buttons are not on the same interface, and you need to swipe. Some people prefer it because they accidentally film video instead of taking a photo, but it would be better if they gave an option, since the initial release had both on the same interface.
And I can't understand why there is no burst mode... Some claim the hardware is too slow but my friend said he had it on the Z3, and HTC M9+ Supreme Camera has it as well (I only tried briefly). I was deciding between the HTC and the Z5 and went for the Z5 because I thought the camera would be better and also because it has quick-charge and runs on a Qualcomm SoC (I was well aware of the overheating issues, but I'd rather have an SoC that is reliable with updates - the M9+ is still on Lollipop in many places!)
No matter what settings I use my camera is very slow, slow to launch and slow to take picture. I normally have to hold the phone still for a second after I press the shutter to make sure it has take the picture properly. It is not terrible but certainly not as quick as other flagships on the market.
I am going to to a master reset of the phone today to see if it helps, I shall report back!
I have taken the plunge and did a factory reset on my phone. It's too soon to tell whether it's had any effect on camera launch speed but let everyone know once I've used it for a bit longer.
Does Note 9 has a recording time limit? On which mode?
I haven't tried it myself on the store so I don't know.. I remember my S8 has a limitation on some of the mode... Hope Note 9 doesn't have one.
I am very sad/ pissed to inform you that the note 9, 512gb does have record limits.... I bought this model specifically so I can use to record videos , instead of carrying my sony ax53 around. I placed my preorder back in mid August, and it was finally delivered yesterday.
3840 x 2160, 60fps: 5 minute limit
3840 x 2160, 30fps: 10 minute limit
2560 x 1440, 30fps: no limit
1920 x 1080, 60fps: 10 minute limit
1920 x 1080, 30fps: no limit
2224 x 1080, 30fps: no limit
1440 x 1440, 30fps: no limit
1280 x 720, 30fps: no limit.
No limit really means till you fill up your storage.
I don't really want to root my phone, but may have to in hopes of getting a zero camera mod or I should just return this phone and get an iphone....... moving from a pixel 2xl, to note 9. Been using android since HTC hd2 then to Samsung s2, note4, nexus 5x, s7edge, pixel 2xl, now note9.
goolong said:
I am very sad/ pissed to inform you that the note 9, 512gb does have record limits.... I bought this model specifically so I can use to record videos , instead of carrying my sony ax53 around. I placed my preorder back in mid August, and it was finally delivered yesterday.
3840 x 2160, 60fps: 5 minute limit
3840 x 2160, 30fps: 10 minute limit
2560 x 1440, 30fps: no limit
1920 x 1080, 60fps: 10 minute limit
1920 x 1080, 30fps: no limit
2224 x 1080, 30fps: no limit
1440 x 1440, 30fps: no limit
1280 x 720, 30fps: no limit.
No limit really means till you fill up your storage.
I don't really want to root my phone, but may have to in hopes of getting a zero camera mod or I should just return this phone and get an iphone....... moving from a pixel 2xl, to note 9. Been using android since HTC hd2 then to Samsung s2, note4, nexus 5x, s7edge, pixel 2xl, now note9.
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Nope, don't root your phone just for looking zero camera mod... for note 9 it is still not available...
So the issue seems to go much deeper to the file system with a limit of 4gb file sizes. Why Samsungs own app has that limitation(boggles my mind )Maybe a custom rom with ext4 or exfat file system for where the files are stored?
Edit( most likely a limitation where the storage location where pictures and video are stored is formatted fat32 to allow windows machines to see them when plugged in to transfer videos without paying Microsoft extra licensing for exfat)
I tried using open camera and 4k 60fps is not supported at any bitrate
4k 30fps will record up 4gb, then creates a new one once the size is reached however, the transitions from one file to the next is not seamless ( about a half second gap loss) after putting the videos into an editor.
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So the issue seems to go much deeper to the file system with a limit of 4gb file sizes. Why Samsungs own app has that limitation(boggles my mind )Maybe a custom rom with ext4 or exfat file system for where the files are stored?
Edit( most likely a limitation where the storage location where pictures and video are stored is formatted fat32 to allow windows machines to see them when plugged in to transfer videos without paying Microsoft extra licensing for exfat)
I tried using open camera and 4k 60fps is not supported at any bitrate
4k 30fps will record up 4gb, then creates a new one once the size is reached however, the transitions from one file to the next is not seamless ( about a half second gap loss) after putting the videos into an editor.
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Hmm.. Personally I used a S8 for video recording, and I even record video files with 20GB+ size.. I haven't tried with my Note 9 yet, but I assume it will have the same capability (since we had an unlimited recording time on lower res and fps). So far, I think Samsung limits the recording time so the phone won't get too heated up.
So I set my camera to 2560 x 1440, and using the default camera , I let it sit and record for about 2 hours. I turned off off hevc mode to make the size bigger. The recording looked like it was going just fine until I looked at the video, and it had been automatically broken into multiple files at 4.3gb each. Gotta find a way to reformat the sdcard partition, to see if that is what is causing the limit. I've added screenshots to show.
Any new news with this tread? I am pissed off about this limits,. 1080p,60fps and this 10 minutes limit? This is bullsht! Is there any other app that can record 1080p with 60fps without time limit? I want to record my first review od earphones (i work in music shop and have unlimited access to earphones and players ) and i dont want to bring my camera with me every time when i want to record video :/ And my daughter is performing (she plays cello) and i want to have ability to record longer video than 10 minutes
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Any new news with this tread? I am pissed off about this limits,. 1080p,60fps and this 10 minutes limit? This is bullsht! Is there any other app that can record 1080p with 60fps without time limit? I want to record my first review od earphones (i work in music shop and have unlimited access to earphones and players ) and i dont want to bring my camera with me every time when i want to record video :/ And my daughter is performing (she plays cello) and i want to have ability to record longer video than 10 minutes
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Nope. It still has limitations even in Pie.
Looks like Samsung did this to ensure the phone not getting overheated.
If you really want to remove the limitations, you need to root the phone.
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Nope. It still has limitations even in Pie.
Looks like Samsung did this to ensure the phone not getting overheated.
If you really want to remove the limitations, you need to root the phone.
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I was afraid that someone might say this. Very sad news. And i am amazed by this. 4k 30fps vids without limitations but fullhd and 60 fps - 10 minutes because of overheating? That is full of cra... ehm... hi end device god damn! And so much disappointment.
DeVilio said:
I was afraid that someone might say this. Very sad news. And i am amazed by this. 4k 30fps vids without limitations but fullhd and 60 fps - 10 minutes because of overheating? That is full of cra... ehm... hi end device god damn! And so much disappointment.
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4k30fps also have 10 minutes limitation.
To be honest, I can't really blame Samsung for doing this. Even my gopro heats up at 1080p 60fps. Even though gopro doesn't have time limitation, we need to remember that gopro processor exists solely for capturing videos only. Meanwhile, on Samsung phone, there will be many task burdens the phone besides of recording as well.
For the record, I rooted my old S8 and use it to record seminars etc. The phone still heats up even though I solely use it for recording (airplane mode turned on and I don't have any games or social apps installed there). At one point, even the phone overheated when I use the 60fps mode.
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4k30fps also have 10 minutes limitation.
To be honest, I can't really blame Samsung for doing this. Even my gopro heats up at 1080p 60fps. Even though gopro doesn't have time limitation, we need to remember that gopro processor exists solely for capturing videos only. Meanwhile, on Samsung phone, there will be many task burdens the phone besides of recording as well.
For the record, I rooted my old S8 and use it to record seminars etc. The phone still heats up even though I solely use it for recording (airplane mode turned on and I don't have any games or social apps installed there). At one point, even the phone overheated when I use the 60fps mode.
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Agreed but still - so powerfull phone as Note9 should have overcome this heating problem that exist for so many years, don`t you think? And on the other hand, i have this small cheap camera for car road recording, 1080p, 60fps - all working, for many hours straight - no problem, warm - yes but no damage there. And that is 5 years old peace of cheap cam.
Maybe there is some apps that dont have time limitation and can record 1080p, 60fps? Do you know any? I`ve tried few but no success.
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Agreed but still - so powerfull phone as Note9 should have overcome this heating problem that exist for so many years, don`t you think? And on the other hand, i have this small cheap camera for car road recording, 1080p, 60fps - all working, for many hours straight - no problem, warm - yes but no damage there. And that is 5 years old peace of cheap cam.
Maybe there is some apps that dont have time limitation and can record 1080p, 60fps? Do you know any? I`ve tried few but no success.
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Hacked gcam works for me actually. I once tried to record it on 4k60 without any time limitation. But currently, since the development is stopped, I'm not really sure, even more on my Pie Note 9.
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Hacked gcam works for me actually. I once tried to record it on 4k60 without any time limitation. But currently, since the development is stopped, I'm not really sure, even more on my Pie Note 9.
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I`ve just tried modified gcam for exynos and it is not working with full hd and 60fps. I`m affraid that i will have to use my mirrorless camera for recordings or just cuts my recordings in 10 minutes pieces and using some software to join movies in one piece. Damn. So expensive phone and so much problems with it.
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I`ve just tried modified gcam for exynos and it is not working with full hd and 60fps. I`m affraid that i will have to use my mirrorless camera for recordings or just cuts my recordings in 10 minutes pieces and using some software to join movies in one piece. Damn. So expensive phone and so much problems with it.
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Hmm.. That is strange... Perhaps we're using different version of gcam? Mine was able to record 1080/60 without problem.
Also, the recordings cut in 4GBs... It's still everywhere.. To be honest, I'm quite amazed by how the industry doesn't catch up with exfat formatting that allows for more than 4GB per file.. Even in latest GoPro camera and DJI Osmo Pocket that I bought, it still have 4GB limits. My partner even have a handycam that stubbornly splits into several 4GB files.
So, yeah, for combining files, we still do have problems.
If you want to maximize the video recordings on your note 9, I suggest that you root your phone. Well, you won't have access to samsung pay or other secured apps anymre, but personally I think it is a good chaoice if you want portability and long high quality videos in a same package.
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Also, using the rooted app, you can film file without splitting. So, it will really helps if you really concern about joining files.
well, you guys talked a lot about the 4GB limitation... actually most of the modern android phones don't have the fat32-formatted internal storage, and the so-called internal storage is in fact the directory /data/media mounted on /storage/emulated as the virtual filesystem "sdcardfs", while the /data partition on samsung phones is formatted to ext4. therefore, storing a file larger than 4GB in /sdcard won't be a problem at all. (and i have a 10 GB linux chroot image on it. )
moreover, samsung has FUSE exfat support. i also have an exfat-formatted micro sd card in my phone. you can give it a try too - just format it to exfat on computer and insert to your phone, it should work properly.
btw, im using galaxy s8 and looking for the solution to the time limit too. i'd only like to record [email protected] videos for longer than 10mins, don't really care about 4k stuff. any advices would be very appreciated, even if root is required.
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btw, im using galaxy s8 and looking for the solution to the time limit too. i'd only like to record [email protected] videos for longer than 10mins, don't really care about 4k stuff. any advices would be very appreciated, even if root is required.
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for s8: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mera_mod_samsung_s8_bitrate_settings&hl=en_US
root is required. removes the time limit and you can modify bitrate settings. doesn't cut at 4 GB but might seamlessly split the file after about 18-20 GB. when you join the two files, you won't notice it was cut.
i needed something to remove the time limit as i needed to record up to 8 hours of video at a time. i came here to see if there are any alternatives to it, and i'm still searching for something similar (and better) for a year now. nothing else works and i haven't found a better alternative for a year now. this is the only thing that works as intended.
it's also available for note8, note9, s7, and s9. hope to see it on the note10 soon.
p.s. your phone will overheat in about one hour if it's a hot summer day outside. it will take some more if it's colder. i use a fan.
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for s8: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mera_mod_samsung_s8_bitrate_settings&hl=en_US
root is required. removes the time limit and you can modify bitrate settings. doesn't cut at 4 GB but might seamlessly split the file after about 18-20 GB. when you join the two files, you won't notice it was cut.
i needed something to remove the time limit as i needed to record up to 8 hours of video at a time. i came here to see if there are any alternatives to it, and i'm still searching for something similar (and better) for a year now. nothing else works and i haven't found a better alternative for a year now. this is the only thing that works as intended.
it's also available for note8, note9, s7, and s9. hope to see it on the note10 soon.
p.s. your phone will overheat in about one hour if it's a hot summer day outside. it will take some more if it's colder. i use a fan.
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this sounds good. i've had a look at the description and watched the video, it seems that the actual magic is in the generated module zip file. why not just open it and see what's modified, and how the modified files differ from the original ones, in case you'd like to get rid of the app or do some further modifications? i've discovered that the /system/cameradata/camera-feature.xml file contains some interesting configurations, thought i haven't tried that app yet since im not sure what it'll actually do or if it's undo-able. and if you don't mind, can you attach your module file please?
Hi,
I'm trying new super slow mo features but i cani record only 3 sec videos... 1 sec before slowmo(normal Speed), 1 sec of slowmo (6sec dilatated) and anoter 1 sec after slowmo (normal speed).
Where is the multi super slow motion?
How can i record a video of only 3 seconds?!?
Is my fault or is very unusable?
anyone with this issue?
That is the duration, no more
Same here.
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I try it and its impossible to shoot the action. Very bad implementation... hope upgrade soon
Yes, it seems the ported feature only allows short video. They shouldn't have implemented anything, this is useless
note8 super slow
I also have problem as i got the new update.while every thing is fine with camera only super slow motion has problem. Whenever i tap the record button immediately recording get stopped and it save 1 sec video at gallery that is playable and super slow.i tried cleaning data cash for camera app also factory reset.but problem is same as before.
It's due to Samsung I think. The thing is you can shoot only a short time at 960 fps and that's all.
Samsung limits it voluntary.
I think you guys are misunderstanding this a little, there's a new camera mode called Super Slow Motion, which films very high framerate for a very short time. We still have the normal slow motion mode, which as far as I can tell is still dropping frames, way to go Samsung.
Time to sell up and change brand again...
Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?
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Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?
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4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.
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4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.
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Yup. Need to limit it. Otherwise your phone will overheat.
For clearer list of limits:
4K @ 60 = 5 minutes
4K @ 30 = 10 minutes
FHD @ 60 = 10 minutes
Super slow motion has limit of 0.4 seconds per snippet, and, at most 20 such clips per recorded video (depends on the settings). (Although at least the Samsung/ca-site still thinks its 0.2 seconds.)
The funny thing is, while FHD @ 60fps has 10 minutes limit, the slow motion mode (FHD @ 240fps) has no limit (at least no limit shown on the display like for the three limited modes), and that mode would have the highest input pixel rate of all the modes. Yet no overheating / time limit with it? Go figure
Can one immediately continue with another 5 or 10 minute clip, giving no time for cooling down? I have not tried, but I haven't read about any limits on immediate restart, either. Also, if overheating is the reason, then ambient temperature should reduce all those limits (unless they are already based on the worst case, which would sound quite a stupid design decision, because the worst case can be quite a bit nastier (say, 35C-40C) than a typical situation (~20-25C). So yeah, I don't quite buy that overheating yet.
However, whatever the reason, the limits are those. If they are too short, a real video camera might be the solution.
Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.
I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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In 4K and/or 60fps?
As you know Samsung plays it safe now with overheating and battery issues. So you can't blame them for being cautious.
angvil said:
Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.
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I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.
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Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]60fps? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.
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Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
For the "which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]".. Since that Phazonclash' message is old (probably pre-Pie), and I am still on the old version, I think I can say this much (but NOTE: I have Exynos, Snapdragon versions had restrictions, like no 60fps):
Filmic Pro seems to allow recording at 4K 60fps, and after downloading the test snippet to PC, VLC claims H264 MPEG4 ACV1, 3840x2160, 60.005110fps, and about 200Mbit/s bitrate. So at least Filmic Pro could do it on Exynos with pre-Pie firmware. (Of course the encoding and quality/bitrates can be adjusted, but I just did a quick test with whatever other settings.)
Due to some bugs/things (mainly due to external mic activation quirk), I contacted Filmic recently, and they suggested that I'd stay with this earlier firmware, even though the external mic issue seems to have gotten fixed with/in Pie - they still have some other issues when running on Pie. And I'll indeed be delaying my update until Samsung can get its Pie version properly developed and past this real beta-testing period. So, I can't test if that Filmic Pro [email protected] situation would have changed to worse. And naturally, can't say anything for the Snapdragon variants.
See also: https://filmicpro.helpscoutdocs.com/article/41-samsung-s9-and-s9-filmic-pro-v6-compatibility-guide
That one reveals some of the things hampering the 3rd party apps. Some additional bits here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/using-s9-plus-filmic-pro-zhiyun-smooth-t3847010
Even with those restrictions, I wouldn't call the phone "useless" for video recording (in general); quite the great movies have been done with systems far less capable than even the restricted Snapdragon variants. But the lack of fixed exposure etc. sure limits a lot, even more than the lack of 60fps.
6thtry said:
Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
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I know about it, but when I can't set fixed exposure and iso it's like not being about to record at all for me, because auto mode for video is absolutely dreadful in literally every situation.
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions (it was just greyed out). So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).
rascal0pl said:
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions. So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).
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Yeah, trial version would be better, but the test app is still better than having no demo/test/trial at all (like with many other paid apps).
Note that the "patched" version could have been made from an earlier version, still having a repertoire of issues with S9/S9+/Note 9, and if not patched by oneself from original version, who knows what other changes have been made. I'd say it is quite unjustified to claim a software "scummy scam" on the basis of testing an unofficial version. Especially in a situation where Samsung's firmware is already known to be more than a bit messed up (not supporting this or that, some things behaving differently than expected, etc.).
I'm not saying that the current official version wouldn't have any issues, on the contrary, it even crashes at times for me (I think related to external mic stuff, but, could also be a fault in the firmware).
However, I can say that it certainly is not a "scummy scam". I did buy it, after reading plenty about it, and have since used it a bit, e.g. recording few presentations. Seems to work quite well in general. Though I dislike some of its UI design, somewhat inconvenient for certain things. And its user manual still doesn't even seem to know about Android (thus settings are listed and explained as for iPhone only).
That it has problems with Note 9 (S9/S9+) with Pie (and also some issues before Pie) seems to be caused mostly (but not only) by Samsung restricting things deliberately and providing broken camera APIs for third parties to use.
But I also think Filmic should tell more openly about issues on these phones if using Pie at the time being, instead of only mentioning "Samsung S9 and Note9: better compatibility with Android Pie.". Which, while true (better than before does not mean that it is not without serious issues), seems to be quite misleading compared to the full current state of things (and they know about that).
All in all, those who have already updated to Pie might be SOL (for the time being, at least), but mostly due to Samsung having buried its head in its own ***. It is already known what the hardware can/could do (and might be able to do even more than what is already known), and if the APIs and firmware worked correctly and without deliberate restrictions, there would be plenty of apps utilizing it all, making Samsung's own camera app look like a poor exercise.