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[Q] Xperia T niggles list...

Hi all,
I've had my T for a week now after upgrading from an iPhone4. Originally I was eyeing up the 5 and the S3 then I spotted this little underdog that I hadn't even heard anything about. After scouting around for reviews it grew on me and after seeing it in the flesh I was sold and managed to get the last one in the Vodafone store.
I've never had an Android phone before, so I was a bit wary, but so far it is pretty much everything I expected it to be and I am really happy with it...
But I have spotted a few niggles and I'm wondering if other users have had noticed similar issues?
1) Auto brightness seems to jump around randomly at time and makes the phone look like either a. it's struggling to cope with what it's handling or b. it hasn't been implemented right and for some reason jumps between levels instead of smoothly raising or lowering the brightness. This doesn't happen all the time, mostly on the net, but I've also seen it while navigating the OS.
2) The camera is really slow to take any decent images. Quick launch boots to the camera pretty quickly but then it sits there trying to focus for the next few seconds and makes the quick launch seems pointless as it hangs fo so long after it has launched. Also any movement seems to blur the images pretty easily. Took pics of my 3 year old and my wife while we were bowling and even their arms moving as they walked back blurred!? The rest of the pic was great but it's not like they were running past the camera or anything.
3) When using Chrome does anyone else have it duplicate the last letter of every word you type? Alll off myy wordss weree lookingg likee thiss wheneverr II typedd anythingg. This wasn't happening anywhere else on the phone and after downloading FireFox I've got a decent browser, but I'm intrigued as to whether or not it was something I was doing?
4) Whenever I copy a video across I am only able to play 2-3 minutes of it even though it says that the file size is correct. All of my videos are .avi and whenever I try to copy them the phone my PC asks if I want to convert the files so that they are compatible with the phone. When I click yes my PC takes 45 min's-1hr to convert it and the file appears on my phone as a few hundred Mb but next to it the time dislpays 2-3 minutes duration. When you play it it cuts out at the 3 minute point. Is anyone else suffering this?
5) The storage capacity of the handset is only showing up as 10.8 Gb of which 1.08 is reserved space. Aren't these handsets meant to have 16Gb? Those figures are shown through the PC Companion and the settings tab on the phone.
So is anyone else experiencing the same niggles as above?
I still love the phone and I'm more than happy keeping it. I know some of the issues are down to my education but others definitely aren't and they'll end just being qwerks of the phone. If there's any way to resolve them then I'd be greatful to hear your solutions.
Cheers,
Stu.

Macflurry said:
5) The storage capacity of the handset is only showing up as 10.8 Gb of which 1.08 is reserved space. Aren't these handsets meant to have 16Gb? Those figures are shown through the PC Companion and the settings tab on the phone.
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That's 10.8GB for the data/storage partition. They left 2GB for app storage only. 13GB total after formatting + OS seems about right.

I have the duplicate letter/word, think it's a chrome thing.
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But I prefer it to my galaxys3
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I thought id ask this here..
Does anyone notice when playing back recorded videos on the device, there is a weird knocking / grinding sound while the lens is focusing?
I will upload a few videos, you can actually hear the device focusing, might be normal, but, it was never like this with my arc....its apparent on multiple set scenses, with both the UK Generic and UK O2 firmware.

I've not tested video recording yet, but the camera module is very close to the left microphone (the phone records in stereo). I am guessing you can hear camera noise on the left channel when playing back?

Macflurry said:
Hi all,
1) Auto brightness seems to jump around randomly at time and makes the phone look like either a. it's struggling to cope with what it's handling or b. it hasn't been implemented right and for some reason jumps between levels instead of smoothly raising or lowering the brightness. This doesn't happen all the time, mostly on the net, but I've also seen it while navigating the OS.
4) Whenever I copy a video across I am only able to play 2-3 minutes of it even though it says that the file size is correct. All of my videos are .avi and whenever I try to copy them the phone my PC asks if I want to convert the files so that they are compatible with the phone. When I click yes my PC takes 45 min's-1hr to convert it and the file appears on my phone as a few hundred Mb but next to it the time dislpays 2-3 minutes duration. When you play it it cuts out at the 3 minute point. Is anyone else suffering this?
Cheers,
Stu.
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#1 try an app called Lux.
#4, try using MxPlayer, not the stock player... Also you don't have to convert the files.

#1, my Galaxy Note was the same until an update. Remember this is a brand new device and the software will get better with time. Apple don't get it right either but that may have been because you were holding it wrong
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#1 try an app called Lux.
#4, try using MxPlayer, not the stock player... Also you don't have to convert the files.
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I'm using MX player and haven't had any problems regardless of what I throw at it (so far).
#5, a trick manufacturers use is to quote storage as 1000 bytes = 1kB, 1000kB = 1MB when the system reports actual memory based on 1024 bytes = 1kB, 1024kB = 1MB, etc so you get less reported than in the marketing specs.

Thanks for your input guys.
So far:
1) Autobrightness turned off and everything is good.
2) Still not too impressed with the camera. It takes too long to focus and do anything useful.
3) FireFox is still working perfectly compared to Chrome.
4) After deleting all the videos and copying them in from scratch, unconverted, they play perfectly with MX Player.
5) The memory thing makes sense but its a poor sales tactuc on the manufacturers part. In reality the customer is only concerned with how much useable memory a device has where in reality the Xperia T has a third less than you would expect. 1-2gb wouldnt be as bad but thus is over 5gb difference!!
Thanks again guys.

Noticed the camera lag seem slow when taking the pictures but whenever I look back on them they don't seem blurred.

So far I reckon Ive deleted between a third to half of my photos due to blurring.

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So far I reckon Ive deleted between a third to half of my photos due to blurring.
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Might sound a silly question, but how are you taking the pictures?
I ask because I started off using the camera with the screen off and just pressing the camera button (utilising the quick shot feature). In this scenario I had blurry photos and rubbish results half the time.
I changed the camera button behaviour to just launch the camera app and then press it again (or use the on-screen button) and my photos have been good pretty much all the time.

Hold either camera button to focus.. I rarely get any blurry photos
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Quickshot seems borderline useless for image quality. But on standard photos after I wait for it to focus, even the slightest movement seem to really blur the image. On other photos it can take that long to focus that you miss your shot.
I've tried taking the ISO settings off auto today to see if that helps.
So far it's the only thing that I feel lets the phone down compared to what you would expect it to be like when you read the spec.

Macflurry said:
Quickshot seems borderline useless for image quality. But on standard photos after I wait for it to focus, even the slightest movement seem to really blur the image. On other photos it can take that long to focus that you miss your shot.
I've tried taking the ISO settings off auto today to see if that helps.
So far it's the only thing that I feel lets the phone down compared to what you would expect it to be like when you read the spec.
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The only other thing I can suggest is there might be a fault with your phone. Do you know anyone else with a T? Do you have the same problem if you take pictures with their phone?!

Hi,
great thread! This phone is one of my favourites now that I'm considering a new handset. Feel free to share any issues that those lucky enough to have one encountered. Thanks

emuX said:
The only other thing I can suggest is there might be a fault with your phone. Do you know anyone else with a T? Do you have the same problem if you take pictures with their phone?!
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I'm going to go and have a play with another one in the shop over the next few weeks when I find time just in case it is my phone but some how I just think it's the way it is.
So far it's my only remaining issue but it's not a deal breaker I still love the phone and look forward to JB next year.

Tab S2 display "issue"

I'm having an odd issue... Anyone with the 9.7 while holding the tab in portrait view on a screen with lots of text or horizontal lines and plenty of scrolling: while scrolling, does anyone else's display seem to scroll sloppy? The right side of mine scrolls faster than the left. Marginally slower, but noticeable. Makes scrolling seem wavy or wobbly or bendy from right to left. If it's just me, I'm going to exchange this one.
I understand about refresh rates n such. I'm going to Bestbuy today to test the floor model.

OK to update: I tested the floor model at a different Bestbuy than the one I purchased mine at and experienced the same "wavy bendy effect" while vertical scrolling in portrait. So, I'm going to assume it's normal and the refresh rate just can't keep up with high resolution and dpi. In case any other S2 owners see this effect.

Have you show this problem to any of you friends or family, can they see your problem, as some people can be more sensitive to screen refresh problems than others, also oled display can have refresh rate problems.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you show this problem to any of you friends or family, can they see your problem, as some people can be more sensitive to screen refresh problems than others, also oled display can have refresh rate problems.
John.
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I have. Unfortunately I'm the only one who can see it. Then again I can spot a dead pixel from 10 feet away. :silly:

I had the original Samsung Note 1 phablet and it had an problem with ghosting while scrolling though menu`s ect, the oled pixels take an lot longer to wake up than lcd pixels, so Samsung sent out an firmware update that kept the pixels on at a very low level all the time to increase the refresh rate and fix the problem with the ghosting.
It been an few years since the Note 1, and oled display have advanced since then, but trying to make the oled displays more efficient i hope they have not turned off the pixels completely or low as they can get away with most people cannot see the refresh problem but you can.
I don't know if this is the reason you are having the problem, it could be something else completely.
Have a look in the developer menu in settings, try the use gpu when drawing or whatever it`s called and see if it makes any difference.
John.
BigBot96 said:
I have. Unfortunately I'm the only one who can see it. Then again I can spot a dead pixel from 10 feet away. :silly:
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I had the original Samsung Note 1 phablet and it had an problem with ghosting while scrolling though menu`s ect, the oled pixels take an lot longer to wake up than lcd pixels, so Samsung sent out an firmware update that kept the pixels on at a very low level all the time to increase the refresh rate and fix the problem with the ghosting.
It been an few years since the Note 1, and oled display have advanced since then, but trying to make the oled displays more efficient i hope they have not turned off the pixels completely or low as they can get away with most people cannot see the refresh problem but you can.
I don't know if this is the reason you are having the problem, it could be something else completely.
Have a look in the developer menu in settings, try the use gpu when drawing or whatever it`s called and see if it makes any difference.
John.
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I'm thinking they may have turned them back off. The blacks are very black compared to my other devices. Hmm. I have updated to 5.1 to see if that'd resolve it but it didn't. It's not a huge issue, just weird to see but once I get used to it I'll be alright. Hopefully. lol

Motion Blur is what we called it, not ghosting have a look at the link below, it shows motion blur on the S4 see video, I could not see the problem myself (don't have fighter pilot eyes ) , see if it is the same problem you are having or is it something else.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-y...inversion-treatment-You-are-not-alone_id42563
John.

I'm having issue with screen turning pink when using Chrome as browser. It happens only for 10 to 15 seconds. I wonder if that's hardware or adaptive display problem.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Motion Blur is what we called it, not ghosting have a look at the link below, it shows motion blur on the S4 see video, I could not see the problem myself (don't have fighter pilot eyes ) , see if it is the same problem you are having or is it something else.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-y...inversion-treatment-You-are-not-alone_id42563
John.
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Similar. But instead of it being uniform horizontally across the display, it gets "worse" from right to left more than likely because of the resolution and DPI compared to the S4. But same effect.
wyemarn said:
I'm having issue with screen turning pink when using Chrome as browser. It happens only for 10 to 15 seconds. I wonder if that's hardware or adaptive display problem.
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That I would say is not normal. Is it only Chrome or are there any other apps that exhibit this color change?

BigBot96 said:
I'm having an odd issue... Anyone with the 9.7 while holding the tab in portrait view on a screen with lots of text or horizontal lines and plenty of scrolling: while scrolling, does anyone else's display seem to scroll sloppy? The right side of mine scrolls faster than the left. Marginally slower, but noticeable. Makes scrolling seem wavy or wobbly or bendy from right to left. If it's just me, I'm going to exchange this one.
I understand about refresh rates n such. I'm going to Bestbuy today to test the floor model.
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The Tab S has the same issue, but it only happens in portrait mode, seems to be ok in landscape. If i flip the tablet 180 in portrait mode it will do it the opposite way, so its not an optical illusion!
It seems like the control chip for the display is suffering some sort of micro lag.

Have you tried the "forced GPU rendering" in the Developer option, I mentioned in post 6.
John.

Nothing solves it, its just the way it is. I gave up bothering about it and forgot about it until this thread . Another reason to stick with 16:10 instead 4:3.

Indeed. Forced GPU rendering changes nothing. That's one of the first things I tried.

Have you tried playing an HEVC H.265 1080p video yet, to see if it stutters like it does on the S1, the S2 is supposed to have hardware decoding, the S1 uses software decoding that kills the battery and stutters.
HEVC H.265 are half the size of normal H.264 video`s for the same quality.
John.

I have a black and white Tab S2 9.7 and both have the same issue. It doesn't look like motion blur, it looks almost like an intentional wavy/wobble animation when scrolling in any app. Which is why I was looking for an option that toggles it. It's very noticeable by anyone who has used it. I pre-ordered it so I didn't get to test it at Bestbuy before hand. I've never seen this scrolling issue on the old Tab S, Nexus 9 or even an IPad Air 2, I've had all three of them. Just when I think I've found a decent android tablet another issue pops up. If there is no fix and this is considered "normal" then I'll be returning them.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you tried playing an HEVC H.265 1080p video yet, to see if it stutters like it does on the S1, the S2 is supposed to have hardware decoding, the S1 uses software decoding that kills the battery and stutters.
HEVC H.265 are half the size of normal H.264 video`s for the same quality.
John.
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I played a heavy HEVC 4096x1720 and it plays the video perfectly on the standard videoplayer, but it stutters when using VLC so I guess the standard videoplayer has a way to hardware-decode this while VLC-player has to use software decoding?

Very nice, hevc hardware decoding is the only thing i am envious of the S2, And 4096x1720 is amazing, unless it`s only really processing the max resolution of the display, and with the stock Samsung player too, does it support AC3 audio though in the stock player.
John.
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I played a heavy HEVC 4096x1720 and it plays the video perfectly on the standard videoplayer, but it stutters when using VLC so I guess the standard videoplayer has a way to hardware-decode this while VLC-player has to use software decoding?
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Very nice, hevc hardware decoding is the only thing i am envious of the S2, And 4096x1720 is amazing, unless it`s only really processing the max resolution of the display, and with the stock Samsung player too, does it support AC3 audio though in the stock player.
John.
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The name of the file is tos-4096x1720-tiles.mkv, unfortunately the standard player does not support the used audio codec in that container. When I check the file it says 5.1 sound.
VLC does play the audio but as already said the video stutters heavily.
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The audio on that hevc video was AC-3 so it look like only the Tab Pro gets AC-3 decoding
And off to the S2 section woosh.
John.
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The name of the file is tos-4096x1720-tiles.mkv, unfortunately the standard player does not support the used audio codec in that container. When I check the file it says 5.1 sound.
VLC does play the audio but as already said the video stutters heavily.
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The screen on my S2 8.0 is gorgeous!
I downloaded ​http://www.libde265.org/hevc-bitstreams/tos-4096x1720-tiles.mkv and MX Player plays both video and audio without any stuttering
Brgds...

Super Slow Mo Recording Length time?

Hey Guys,
Just wondering if there is any way to make the Super Slow Mo time longer then .2 or .4 secs?
Are there any 3rd party apps that allow you to use the Samsungs 960fps Super slow Mo to a longer recording time?
Reason me asking is because i try to record specific videos but hard to time it to capture the event in its 2 or 4 sec window.
The auto capture feature wont catch some small events so that option does not always work for me.
any input would be appreaciated!

andyid said:
Hey Guys,
Just wondering if there is any way to make the Super Slow Mo time longer then .2 or .4 secs?
Are there any 3rd party apps that allow you to use the Samsungs 960fps Super slow Mo to a longer recording time?
Reason me asking is because i try to record specific videos but hard to time it to capture the event in its 2 or 4 sec window.
The auto capture feature wont catch some small events so that option does not always work for me.
any input would be appreaciated!
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I guess not because of hardware limitation..
Im guessing we wold need 16gb of ram or 12 core 3 ghz processor for that.....
But if you find a way post an answer ?

slomo just writes video files with high framerates. apart from available storage space, i dont get why a longer record time wouldn't be possible... unless it buffers it in memory while the write to internal storage is done so to not get dropped frames.
internal storage is quite fast though...

Hmm.. 1280x720 pixels times 960 frames per second = 884 736 000 raw samples per second (assuming each pixel has single color, to be processed for full color, then some other processing, then encoded/compressed to video file formats, before stored).
That is, order of magnitude 1 GB/s of raw data to be processed or stored (assuming 8-bit samples for videos; they could more or less bits). SD cards are still 10-30x too slow to take that raw data in. CPUs (with DSP units) might be capable enough to process and encode that stream in real time.. The RAM might be able to move the data at that rate (so maybe up to few seconds could be taken, if enough RAM is free before the snippet). But there could be a bottleneck on the bus between the camera and the SoC.
Maybe there is some internal buffer that fills up while earlier samples are simultaneously being pushed from camera to SoC, and the buffer fills up at around that 0.4s point.
Note that the [email protected] and [email protected] both are about 500 MB/s, and the system can sustain that. So, the extra 500MB/s * 0.4s would indicate about 200MB buffer size, if that idea is correct.
But, what if we could have even half that resolution (say, 850x480) at 960fps, or the 1280x720 at 480fps? Those should have the similar lower data rates that can be sustained.

Just as a side note - 0.2 seconds on the Note 9 is real 960fps capture, resulting in an 8 second clip with 6 seconds of slow motion. 0.4s is filmed at 480fps, stretched and interpolated such that you get 12 seconds of slow motion as if it was filmed at 0.4s/960fps. So they need to cut the corners in some ways, but I do wish there was a 1080p option like the Xperia XZ2, even if it is more brief.
What I'm somewhat annoyed is that there's occasionally a stutter or frame repeats that occur with super slo mo, especially after the latest update I got a few weeks ago. I tried clearing the camera app data which didn't help.

camera question

Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?

angvil said:
Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?
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4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.
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Yup. Need to limit it. Otherwise your phone will overheat.

For clearer list of limits:
4K @ 60 = 5 minutes
4K @ 30 = 10 minutes
FHD @ 60 = 10 minutes
Super slow motion has limit of 0.4 seconds per snippet, and, at most 20 such clips per recorded video (depends on the settings). (Although at least the Samsung/ca-site still thinks its 0.2 seconds.)
The funny thing is, while FHD @ 60fps has 10 minutes limit, the slow motion mode (FHD @ 240fps) has no limit (at least no limit shown on the display like for the three limited modes), and that mode would have the highest input pixel rate of all the modes. Yet no overheating / time limit with it? Go figure
Can one immediately continue with another 5 or 10 minute clip, giving no time for cooling down? I have not tried, but I haven't read about any limits on immediate restart, either. Also, if overheating is the reason, then ambient temperature should reduce all those limits (unless they are already based on the worst case, which would sound quite a stupid design decision, because the worst case can be quite a bit nastier (say, 35C-40C) than a typical situation (~20-25C). So yeah, I don't quite buy that overheating yet.
However, whatever the reason, the limits are those. If they are too short, a real video camera might be the solution.

Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.

I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.

Phazonclash said:
I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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In 4K and/or 60fps?

As you know Samsung plays it safe now with overheating and battery issues. So you can't blame them for being cautious.
angvil said:
Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.
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I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.

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Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]60fps? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.
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Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
For the "which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]".. Since that Phazonclash' message is old (probably pre-Pie), and I am still on the old version, I think I can say this much (but NOTE: I have Exynos, Snapdragon versions had restrictions, like no 60fps):
Filmic Pro seems to allow recording at 4K 60fps, and after downloading the test snippet to PC, VLC claims H264 MPEG4 ACV1, 3840x2160, 60.005110fps, and about 200Mbit/s bitrate. So at least Filmic Pro could do it on Exynos with pre-Pie firmware. (Of course the encoding and quality/bitrates can be adjusted, but I just did a quick test with whatever other settings.)
Due to some bugs/things (mainly due to external mic activation quirk), I contacted Filmic recently, and they suggested that I'd stay with this earlier firmware, even though the external mic issue seems to have gotten fixed with/in Pie - they still have some other issues when running on Pie. And I'll indeed be delaying my update until Samsung can get its Pie version properly developed and past this real beta-testing period. So, I can't test if that Filmic Pro [email protected] situation would have changed to worse. And naturally, can't say anything for the Snapdragon variants.
See also: https://filmicpro.helpscoutdocs.com/article/41-samsung-s9-and-s9-filmic-pro-v6-compatibility-guide
That one reveals some of the things hampering the 3rd party apps. Some additional bits here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/using-s9-plus-filmic-pro-zhiyun-smooth-t3847010
Even with those restrictions, I wouldn't call the phone "useless" for video recording (in general); quite the great movies have been done with systems far less capable than even the restricted Snapdragon variants. But the lack of fixed exposure etc. sure limits a lot, even more than the lack of 60fps.

6thtry said:
Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
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I know about it, but when I can't set fixed exposure and iso it's like not being about to record at all for me, because auto mode for video is absolutely dreadful in literally every situation.
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions (it was just greyed out). So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).

rascal0pl said:
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions. So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).
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Yeah, trial version would be better, but the test app is still better than having no demo/test/trial at all (like with many other paid apps).
Note that the "patched" version could have been made from an earlier version, still having a repertoire of issues with S9/S9+/Note 9, and if not patched by oneself from original version, who knows what other changes have been made. I'd say it is quite unjustified to claim a software "scummy scam" on the basis of testing an unofficial version. Especially in a situation where Samsung's firmware is already known to be more than a bit messed up (not supporting this or that, some things behaving differently than expected, etc.).
I'm not saying that the current official version wouldn't have any issues, on the contrary, it even crashes at times for me (I think related to external mic stuff, but, could also be a fault in the firmware).
However, I can say that it certainly is not a "scummy scam". I did buy it, after reading plenty about it, and have since used it a bit, e.g. recording few presentations. Seems to work quite well in general. Though I dislike some of its UI design, somewhat inconvenient for certain things. And its user manual still doesn't even seem to know about Android (thus settings are listed and explained as for iPhone only).
That it has problems with Note 9 (S9/S9+) with Pie (and also some issues before Pie) seems to be caused mostly (but not only) by Samsung restricting things deliberately and providing broken camera APIs for third parties to use.
But I also think Filmic should tell more openly about issues on these phones if using Pie at the time being, instead of only mentioning "Samsung S9 and Note9: better compatibility with Android Pie.". Which, while true (better than before does not mean that it is not without serious issues), seems to be quite misleading compared to the full current state of things (and they know about that).
All in all, those who have already updated to Pie might be SOL (for the time being, at least), but mostly due to Samsung having buried its head in its own ***. It is already known what the hardware can/could do (and might be able to do even more than what is already known), and if the APIs and firmware worked correctly and without deliberate restrictions, there would be plenty of apps utilizing it all, making Samsung's own camera app look like a poor exercise.

Video recording 4k60

Hey guys,
Is there any information about 4k60fps video recording?
Is it still limited to 5 or 10 minutes?
I hope the fixed it in the plus version with 512gb of storage.
Thanks ?

I'm wondering about this as well.

I read somewhere on youtube that the time limits may still be there, 10 minutes @1080P 60fps and 5 minutes @4k 60fps. Still not an actual confirmation so I'm still hoping that the limits have been removed.

themuffinman said:
I read somewhere on youtube that the time limits may still be there, 10 minutes @1080P 60fps and 5 minutes @4k 60fps. Still not an actual confirmation so I'm still hoping that the limits have been removed.
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So need to root the phone again to remove them ... this is pain! Apple doesn`t have limits at all .... the only limit is your storage : ( but i don`t like the egg phones =)
thank you for the information

I was in Best Buy store today and did play with their display units of all S10 models, but mainly spent time with S10e, as this is what I have preordered. I did go to camera and saw that 4K/60p mode, but haven't recorded anything. So you could go to best buy and try it out

I have read the recording restrictions remain other than the slo-mo recording which I believe has doubled in duration.

Just found this on youtube,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=VfBOmr6y3G4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR6rPZ89WHs