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The only dock I could find on internet was this and it's available for preorder and looks great IMO. Anyone ordered from this company before?
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/index.php
Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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Idk those prices plus shipping is rape-age
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Are you looking at the same website? They do worldwide free shipping so there is no 'plus shipping'. Also 27$ or 17£ for a desktop cradle is very reasonable.
Yeah, $31 for the one with a second battery charger, with free shipping is still almost half what I paid for a Nexus One dock from Google (though the N1 dock had more features (bluetooth speakers)).
With the huge tacky logo on the front of it, it looks like a $5 item....
at least it's something, doesn't look like an OEM dock is coming out at all
Count me in for this.
I wonder how long before this becomes actually available for shipment. I'm okay with the price, just not with the waiting.
I was told by the seller that the dock will be shipping in the middle of march this year.
It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.
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It looks awesome I just wish it had headset throughput.
Ideally, I'd like to use this on my nightstand and I usually listen to TuneIn Radio when I go to bed. This will block that. Bummer.
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I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier
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I always stream it over bluetooth.. It's a lot easier
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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Well, 10 meters is the range of bluetooth.
I use a Jabra BT3030. Good thing about it is I can plug in any earphone I want and if I prefer to use a larger speaker, I can just plug that too.
http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.
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http://store.androidcentral.com/sei...m=shopping_engine&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts
The Innodock Jr for the Desire/Nexus One works perfectly for the Nexus S and it leaves a lot of room for you to add a case and still be able to use the dock.
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Oh, nice. Do you have a picture of the Nexus S in the dock? By the way, is the dock heavy? I worry about the dock tipping over. Thanks.
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I use http://the-gadgeteer.com/2007/07/12/altec_lansing_t515_wireless_speaker_headset_system/ (just the headset part.. speaker is crap) with a sennheiser earphone and the audio quality is excellent and the range is not bad either. I get about 10 meters without much trouble.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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I have mixed feelings about listening to music over Bluetooth. On one hand, as a person who finds a lot of wireless accessories pretty stupid, headphones are one thing I definitely think can benefit from going cordless. On the other, sound quality over Bluetooth just isn't as good as in wired headphones, even to a decidedly non-audiophile such as myself. Also, I find the range of Bluetooth doesn't really allow for as much freedom of movement as I would wish in some cases, and every stereo headset I've tried is extremely sensitive to motion (such as when running with your phone in your pocket) and/or obstruction (such as turning your head to look at something in such a way as to place your body mass between the phone and the headset receiver). In either case, the playback stutters quite a bit.
My feeling is that Bluetooth technology isn't quite where it needs to be for music playback yet. Unless you're in a situation where you really need/want them, I think most people are still better off with wired headphones. Give it a year or two for quality to go up and prices to go down and it might be a different story.
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Seems to work excellently with my car stereo. The data throughput of Bluetooth is more than enough to handle music.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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For someone who cares so much about sound quality, I'm surprised you have not spent close to or even more than $200 on a pair of wired headphones even.
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I'm happy for you, but not everyone wants to pay $200+ for headphones.
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My earphones are CX95 which I bought for about £60 (I also use other Sennheiser models which are about £15-£30) so I am not sure how you got 200+
The bluetooth headset itself was £15.
mY friends has a mobile shop and the poor guy showed me more than 15 headPhones....
Not ONE PAIR WAS COMPATIBLE WITH my HTC HD7....
The Sony Ericsson ones are working but only the top part is working fine...
ALL I AM LOOKING FOR IS A PAIR that has the small ear buds and a mic...
I am open to any other company...
Or can someone suggest a company website where I can buy them, like HTC.com or Sony Erecisson.com or something...
RAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
Currently I am using the earbuds that came with the Dell Venue Pro for my HD7. Comfortable enough to wear all day without pain. The mic works, but I'm not 100% sure about the volume rocker.
Similar to these sets... which I'm sure would work fine...
http://www.igonemobile.com/product.aspx?p=26831
http://www.amazon.com/Handsfree-Stereo-Headset-Original-16904-003/dp/B0046Z430I
The trick is finding a set that's 100% compatible. The stock headphones that HTC gives you are quite painful unless you're Shrek.
HAve you guys tried the Iphone ones ? Just a thought ..
These are probably the best bang for the buck.
http://www.amazon.com/NuForce-NE-7M...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299779815&sr=1-50
With my TMOUS HD7 phone, I just use the phone mic with a regular headset and it works just fine. The phone mic seems to pick up pretty good even when driving. I never even tired the headset that came with the phone yet. The only issue I had is that if I plug it in after answering the phone, I will need to toggle the external speaker on and off for the phone to enable the phone mic.
Try the Creative Labs HS-730i, you can get those for under ~$30, if you know where to look. Unfortunately, I don't know any Indian online shopping search engines, as Google doesn't appear to have one.
dorianmuthig said:
Try the Creative Labs HS-730i, you can get those for under ~$30, if you know where to look. Unfortunately, I don't know any Indian online shopping search engines, as Google doesn't appear to have one.
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Hi all...
Thanx for all your suggestions. Firstly, like I said, I have tried ALL companies. including the iPhone. To be honest, the iPhone one works. But there is no bass. Only kinnda treble.
I listen to Drum and Bass and Dubstep and it OBVIOUSLY needs a good headphone...
I was whining infront of a friend about my plight. and suddenly he said I have a sennheiser pair...wana try?? And I said, BLOODY HELL...why not...who can refuse sennheiser!!
AND BOOM!!!
Bloody hell!! WHat sound!! He can get me a good deal for it so on Monday I am gonna have one sexy pair of headphones for my 16 gig music...
But thanx a lot guy for your suggestions!
P.S: If you guys want I can tell you the code of these ones. It doesnt have a mic, nor a volume rocker...but then again, its sennheiser!!! Do i need to say more
Well, I thought you were looking for earphones with a mic... the phone has a standard 4 pin 3.5mm headphone jack, any stereo headphones under 1 watt with standard impedance will work just fine.
On a side note, though, if you want bass, Sennheiser is the wrong choice for you, they're too much focused on trebele frequency response. Philips or Panasonic headphones might be the better choice here.
Yeah... he even yelled that ALL HE WAS LOOKING FOR was headphones with a mic.
There's a million friggin stereo headphones you can use without volume rockers or mics.
the **** man.
sennheiser are ok but if you look for *the* sound, you want to try the westone. 3 real drivers, high/medium/bass. best sound around, about 400$ but I got mine for 3 years they still kick ass amd beat any other brand.
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Yeah... he even yelled that ALL HE WAS LOOKING FOR was headphones with a mic.
There's a million friggin stereo headphones you can use without volume rockers or mics.
the **** man.
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I really dont know but I think you cant abuse in here brother. It can get you banned. Yes, to answer what you have replied, i WAS looking for headphones with a mic, BUT I didn't get any..tried everything from Samsun, iPhone, Nokia..but nothing worked...
Sennies are just about OK(except the ie7 and ie8),there are MUCH better and cheaper options available.
I love my earsonics SM3 for headphones, but there's still plenty of other good choices. I suggest you go to head-fi to begin your search and narrow your budget.
Actually I am getting for a pretty good deal...they are originals...
Hello!
I am searching for affordable BT IEMs but with good sound quality and functions (vol +-,tracks,play/pause buttons)
To use with my HTC M8
I have found the Sony SBH-20 to be a good solution as I can plug my RE-272 to get BT + very good sound quality, though the RE-272 cable is too long because of the extension (you can't get stereo sound without it) and the SBH-20 is BT 3.0 and not APTX...
There are tons of Chinese branded BT earphones on Amazon like ''Soundpeats'' ''Mpow'' and ''Imarku'' that are all BT 4.0 and even sometime APTX!
But it's not like the SBH20, meaning the IEMs cant be replaced, so I have no clue which one has a good sound quality.
Please help!
I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
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I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
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I have heard not so good things about the samsung's one, we even have them in my country (Lebanon) for 50$ but I am not convinced, they say buttons are badly implemented and volume is low.
I have found the Sony SBH50 to be a better deal than SBH20, with the Oled screen I can read music names,SMS,caller ID...and even some weather infos (though I can live without it)
Actually I am using the HTC Stereoclip in my car which is aptx and BT 2.1 and the sound quality is very good, nearly as good as cabled connection by AUX, the Sony ones are not aptx but BT 3.0, so I guess aptx + BT 2.1 = non aptx + BT 3.0 right?
I don't know if I can trust the reviews at Amazon about this earphones by ''Imarku'' but it looks like a good deal http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones-Hands-Free-Microphone/dp/B00S7ZXO9E/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Could you not just do a search on amazon for that exact thing? I trust the amazon algorithm to output the highest quality item first in the list. Just check the reviews on there.
I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
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I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
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Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
vegetaleb said:
Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
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Lol I know Head-Fi, I bought the Hifiman IEMs thanks to their reviews.
And yeah they are a little snobbish with people paying 600$ for IEM
Reviews at Amazon are not always a good results, specially for IEM.
I bought 4 years ago a pair of these Sony http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX10LP-BLU-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004UDZ8O6 which are still like you see rated 4 stars.
I have never heard a such awful sound in all IEM till now, they were way too in the lows, nothing in the mids not highs, no details!
Why is it so well reviewed? well I figured it's because it costs only 12$ and people who like the sound quality were fans of ''only bass'' music like rap and rnb, which are the only type of music I don't listen too btw.
That's why I am afraid the QY7 models are so well reviewed for the same reasons.
I have found one review that was extremely positive for the Soundpeats QY7 in a blog and another one that smashed it in Head-Fi as a ridiculous sound quality with emphasis on lows only (like the Sony I hated)
I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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Don't ask me why but I feel these Imarku http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7ZXO9E?ref_=pe_623860_70668520 sound better than QY7-QY5, the seller told me it's totally different from the QY5 and QY7 clones you see in Amazon. BT 4.0 but no aptx (which is not a big deal as BT 3.0 and + are already good enough).
The thing is that they won't deliver to my sis in NYC before the 10th Feb with standard delivery, I will have to pay the fast delivery 13$ to be sure she get it before she meet my friend.
So the that's why I can't try and return like you said, I must be 100% sure it's a good deal for me before buying.
I have a friend who is traveling to NYC next week for 3-4 days, I live in Lebanon and if I want to do a delivery from Amazon to here it will cost me 80$ more lol.
Imarku looks like a good deal if I trust the 24 reviews but I am afraid of the diameter of the earphone itself right after the rubber part as it looks too large and could make it falls on the first jogging vibration,even do some irritation to my ear, the Sony SBH50 is a sure thing as I can plug any IEM if I don't like the ones that come with it. That's why I can't decide :crying:
Oh and btw IEM BT here are the most expensive models like Bose and Beats, even Sony doesn't bring the ''cheap'' models SBH20,50 and 52, they have only 1 model at 150$
You can find some headphones (over the ear) BT like Energysistem for 80$ but I don't see myself jogging with such big things.
Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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The weird thing is that when I connect directly the TRRS plug into the M8 only one earphone will work, but if I plug it to the HTC BT Stereoclip with the help of a female 3.5mm to female 3.5mm, the sound is stereo like if the TRRS to TRS cable was used
Hoping the Sony SBH50 will act the same it will be awesome because the Hifiman RE-272 and 262 cable lenght with TRRS plug is short and perfect for the Sony SBH50, it's the extension cable (which act as TRRS to TRS adapter too) that add an extra 80cm!
Charging up the HBH50 and will do some comparisons with it connected to a couple different stereo IEMs, and an Apple iPhone 5s headset (the only version of IEM/buds I have with TRRS plug).
Honestly the HBH50 will be the best option, IMHO, as you can use it with any headphone.
Of course, the reason I don't always use the HBH50 is that it's a bit 'bright' with it's presentation of sound. The Jabra Street2 I have is a bit more my liking, which, while I'm no basshead....I do like accurate, tight, controlled, emphasized rhythm (percussion and bass guitar) section. But, the top end still has to be there and quite accurate as well.
Will report back, may be tomorrow....still gotta work! :silly:
Here's why the HTC M8 and M7 before it can't make a stereo sound with the TRRS of Hifiman.
It's the RE-0 one but I am sure it's the same as RE-272 and 262
So as you can see the third ring which is used by earphones+mic models as mic is used here for left channel, I wonder if we can do something app based...
I couldn't find a female TRRS to male TRS small cable yet instead of using the 80cm one.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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I think it's trhough the Sony SBH50 app in the Google playstore,once you install it, it will say there is a new FW.
Hopefully I will get mine in the coming days, it's still with my friend in NY and he's coming back this week
Wow these SBH50 are really good!
BT 3.0 is superior to 2.1 + APTX, sound is clear, soundstage is wide and no muffling sound typical of BT compression.
The given earphones are way too bassy, I had to lower the bass in Viper4android well under the average.
The HIFIMAN RE-272 have a superb sound with the SBH50 but as expected the 3 strips stereo plug didn't work, I have to use the extension cable making it too long for a BT device unless I clip it on my Tshirt sleeve instead of the collar.
I will try to find a shorter extension-adapter cable.
All the functions of the SBH50 are supported with the M8, MP3 tag,caller ID...
Though the sound volume is not very loud, tried it with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm in my car instead of the HTC Stereoclip and it was perhaps 40% more quiet, but with the earphones the volume is good after adding +6db thanks again to V4A, it could have take an extra 10% more.
I'm sad to see that people are accepting the death of the headphone jack. We (humans) create tech therefore is tech that should adapt to us, not us to tech. I'm actually disappointed to see how xda gave this phone "the best phone award". Companies are toying with us and as a oneplus fan I'm really sad to see them continue this despite the complaints of many over the 6T. I just just bought a 5T myself because of this (6 has a notch so went for the 5t). I fear that in the future there will be no option for those who want a headphone jack. And even worse, no charging port.
To me the next logical step in this crazy trend is to get rid of the usb-c port. And seeing how well people are accepting the removal of the headphone jack I fear they will have no trouble in doing so.
And yes I get it the jack is quite big and limits screen size. But let's face it, it is really annoying to tap the edges of the screen by accident, which gets worse with these bezel-less phones, so please don't try to convince me.
I wanted to create a poll but I don't see an option on the app, so I will just ask these questions. Let me know what you think.
Aren't you worried that the next models will ship with wireless charging only?
Is that what we will see in the future?
Would OP join this crazy trend?
PS: I'm posting on the OP forum since what I wanna discuss here is what will happen in the future and what do you guys think OP will do about it.
Technology is changing, rapidly and over and over again - part of this change is the move from wired headphones to wireless ones, another one is the trend to curved displays (which I don't crave), the omission of notification LEDs and probably also the trend towards wireless charging (which I actually find convenient).... I doubt it'll leave out the USB port because you would neither get an option to transfer data via OTG nor would be able to recover the phone when something is broken - but who knows
IMO Oneplus is following where the market is going. We could hope and argue that it could very well be the other way round, but the volume is not with us few tech enthusiasts but with the broad masses and the trendsetter presently is not Oneplus (which I would wish to be otherwise)....
You do realize the OnePlus 6 has a headphone jack right?
Phones without ports are the future. Within a few years you can powercharge your phone wirelessly. Would be better for all of us. And btw invest in a good pair of wireless headphones mk3 sony are very very very good.
for music - use audio players like astell kern, fiio etc. Its just a talk about your money, if you can afford it. But. About bezelless screens, its all very disapointing. Personally, i'd like to back to 16:9 screens, like 5 and 3t was. Oneplus is no more phones for geeks, its for beauty bloggers, HA
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I'm sad to see that people are accepting the death of the headphone jack. We (humans) create tech therefore is tech that should adapt to us, not us to tech.
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But it did adapt to us. We humans (not me specifically until this phone) bought these phones without a headphone jack for 2 years. Didn't touch sales numbers. So the market adapted, one less hole to waterproof, and room to save costs on circuit noise reduction, integrated DAC+AMPs etc.
To me the next logical step in this crazy trend is to get rid of the usb-c port. And seeing how well people are accepting the removal of the headphone jack I fear they will have no trouble in doing so.
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exaggeration to get your point across
And yes I get it the jack is quite big and limits screen size. But let's face it, it is really annoying to tap the edges of the screen by accident, which gets worse with these bezel-less phones, so please don't try to convince me.
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subjective opinion
but yeah I mostly agree with everything else, I hate trends.
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You do realize the OnePlus 6 has a headphone jack right?
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Sorry a typo.
Didn't get the 7/6t for the jack. Didn't even considered the 6 because of the notch (considering the 5t is just one step below the 6 i'd rather not have a notch).
I'll edit my first post
bartjeh1991 said:
Phones without ports are the future. Within a few years you can powercharge your phone wirelessly. Would be better for all of us. And btw invest in a good pair of wireless headphones mk3 sony are very very very good.
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Most troubling is not charge time but not being able to use your phone while charging. Plus I'd like to see how we would root a phone without ports...
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Technology is changing, rapidly and over and over again - part of this change is the move from wired headphones to wireless ones, another one is the trend to curved displays (which I don't crave), the omission of notification LEDs and probably also the trend towards wireless charging (which I actually find convenient).... I doubt it'll leave out the USB port because you would neither get an option to transfer data via OTG nor would be able to recover the phone when something is broken - but who knows
IMO Oneplus is following where the market is going. We could hope and argue that it could very well be the other way round, but the volume is not with us few tech enthusiasts but with the broad masses and the trendsetter presently is not Oneplus (which I would wish to be otherwise)....
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Wow just noticed the led thing. So glad I still have it.
Considering the new trend of not repairing broken stuff (ehem apple ehem) I worry that could extend to the rest of the market and end up killing the usb. But good point.
Your last point is very valid. But what I always liked about oneplus is that they didn't follow most trends. Instead they relied on community feedback (ofc ppl in forums is mostly geeks). Don't get me wrong. As a company that is probably the right strategy. I just wish they had like a second phone for us fans of the opo.
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Phones without ports are the future. Within a few years you can powercharge your phone wirelessly. Would be better for all of us. And btw invest in a good pair of wireless headphones mk3 sony are very very very good.
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by harnessing the kinetic and heat energy of you body?
even photon beam charging?
ive been questioning why we havent advanced in battery tech in a while... we are using hundreds (some would suggest thousands) of year old tech to power on our phones
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I'm sad to see that people are accepting the death of the headphone jack. We (humans) create tech therefore is tech that should adapt to us, not us to tech. I'm actually disappointed to see how xda gave this phone "the best phone award". Companies are toying with us and as a oneplus fan I'm really sad to see them continue this despite the complaints of many over the 6T. I just just bought a 5T myself because of this (6 has a notch so went for the 5t). I fear that in the future there will be no option for those who want a headphone jack. And even worse, no charging port.
To me the next logical step in this crazy trend is to get rid of the usb-c port. And seeing how well people are accepting the removal of the headphone jack I fear they will have no trouble in doing so.
And yes I get it the jack is quite big and limits screen size. But let's face it, it is really annoying to tap the edges of the screen by accident, which gets worse with these bezel-less phones, so please don't try to convince me.
I wanted to create a poll but I don't see an option on the app, so I will just ask these questions. Let me know what you think.
Aren't you worried that the next models will ship with wireless charging only?
Is that what we will see in the future?
Would OP join this crazy trend?
PS: I'm posting on the OP forum since what I wanna discuss here is what will happen in the future and what do you guys think OP will do about it.
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I personally have used wireless bt headphones and now true wireless earbuds Jabra elite are amazing for years. Who wants cords when working out for starters. Second I don't understand the outrage over not having a headphone Jack. You spend 7-800 on bleeding edge tech but want to use wired headphones? Backwards to me. And honestly get used to it. It's not going away. Wireless everything. For me it's cloud, bt, wireless charging, casting, nfc file transfers etc....
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I personally have used wireless bt headphones and now true wireless earbuds Jabra elite are amazing for years. Who wants cords when working out for starters. Second I don't understand the outrage over not having a headphone Jack. You spend 7-800 on bleeding edge tech but want to use wired headphones? Backwards to me. And honestly get used to it. It's not going away. Wireless everything. For me it's cloud, bt, wireless charging, casting, nfc file transfers etc....
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Well I have 3 pairs of headphones ranging from 100 to 200 quid so it's not about money.
I've tried bt headphones but they are a pain in my opinion. You have to charge them and sound quality is not as good. Tho I must say that in the car the 5T does seem to have better quality than the 3T over bluetooth but still can hear it struggle.
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by harnessing the kinetic and heat energy of you body?
even photon beam charging?
ive been questioning why we havent advanced in battery tech in a while... we are using hundreds (some would suggest thousands) of year old tech to power on our phones
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Hahah true. But also there have been improvements on battery tech. It's just that there have been no big changes. The main problem is that to store more energy you basically need to start looking at more exotic materials that at the same time are more dangerous to handle.
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Well I have 3 pairs of headphones ranging from 100 to 200 quid so it's not about money.
I've tried bt headphones but they are a pain in my opinion. You have to charge them and sound quality is not as good. Tho I must say that in the car the 5T does seem to have better quality than the 3T over bluetooth but still can hear it struggle.
Hahah true. But also there have been improvements on battery tech. It's just that there have been no big changes. The main problem is that to store more energy you basically need to start looking at more exotic materials that at the same time are more dangerous to handle.
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now to just find an minuscule sized nuclear reactor encapsulated by a moscovium infused gaseous-ring enforced with a vibranium outer casing, then i think we would be set.
Well I have 3 pairs of headphones ranging from 100 to 200 quid so it's not about money.
I've tried bt headphones but they are a pain in my opinion. You have to charge them and sound quality is not as good. Tho I must say that in the car the 5T does seem to have better quality than the 3T over bluetooth but still can hear it struggle.
Never have had an issue. My Sony over the ear wireless sound amazing. My Jabra sound quality is amazing as well and I have to charge the case once every two weeks. I mean we are living in a world where we have to charge our laptops and tablets and phones...don't think having to charge headphones is a deal breaker. Now again it's about preference. I'm good w not having a headphone Jack. Didn't use it when I had a phone that did. To each is own.
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You don't see us using vinyl records, feather with ink, or a wired telephone connection today do we? So, stop yapping about things you don't like, if you don't like change, then go back to your Nokia 3310. If people don't accept change like the headphone jack, or USB C port, then why would people still buy them? It's like the 90hz screen, once you have it, you don't wanna go back. Don't talk trash about things that you haven't tried.
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You don't see us using vinyl records, feather with ink, or a wired telephone connection today do we? So, stop yapping about things you don't like, if you don't like change, then go back to your Nokia 3310. If people don't accept change like the headphone jack, or USB C port, then why would people still buy them? It's like the 90hz screen, once you have it, you don't wanna go back. Don't talk trash about things that you haven't tried.
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I have tried bluetooth headphones... Don't like them. They are heavy and need recharging. And batteries go bad with time.
It's hard to beat the comfort of a headphone that weighs half as much.
And yes many ppl use vinyl just so you know....
This trend took off thanks to apple fanboys.
What good things do we get by trading in the headphone jack?
Larger screens with notches? Or maybe popup cameras that will fail in a couple years?
It's not like they are trying to get the phones smaller...
About tastes there is nothing written and it is very difficult to please everyone equally.
Before they removed the Jack 3.5, I no longer used it, so I do not care.
For the usb-c to charge and sound, it would bother me a lot to remove it, because I do not like to lose the possibility of having cable sound input even for the C and even less be forced to have another device to charge? And I'm home? I think that is not possible ....
I do not like the drop noch either, but I prefer it to frames ... and the worst is the curve edge! Please! What is it for? To play reflexes ??? To lose screen? Life is curved? Yes, of course, when I play football when I get to the line, the ball falls into the void suddenly ... yuck! regards
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I do miss the headphone jack, but only because I have some really nice wired headphones that I would like to connect to my phone on the odd occasion because that's where all my music is. Saying that, 99% of the time I'm using my Jabra Elites. If needed, I can get a music player as a separate device to get my audio nerd on, whilst I admit I would rather have one device. But I'm not shlopping around a big set of headphones around with me all the time. That's not going to happen. Nowadays any decent set of wireless IEM's compete well with wired IEM's. I don't think they will get rid of ports altogether, just because what happens when it bricks. You always have to be able to physically connect up.
If you want to use wired headphones with your phpne, the OnePlus usbc dongle sounds about the same as the phpnes with the 3.5mm port. If you want true fidelity, you should try the digital audio players that was mentioned in a reply above. If you really want good quality playbacknon yoir phone, the only options are true USB-C DAC/AMP or bluetooth receivers like Fiio Q5S
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You don't see us using vinyl records, feather with ink, or a wired telephone connection today do we? So, stop yapping about things you don't like, if you don't like change, then go back to your Nokia 3310. If people don't accept change like the headphone jack, or USB C port, then why would people still buy them? It's like the 90hz screen, once you have it, you don't wanna go back. Don't talk trash about things that you haven't tried.
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I think you are being too harsh. You may not realize but Vinyls quality of sound beats CD quality any day. When was the last time you had the luxury of listening to a clean vinyl? Ok, enough about the vinyls. I think what OP is trying to say is limiting the choices. I personally, would not care if phone does not have a phone jack as long as there is a similar model with a jack option. When you buy a car, besides many other available options available under different package and price points, you STILL have an option to buy stick or automatic transmission. Some of the innovation being made under the banner of "technology and advancement" is simply a marketing hype. Smartphone sales are way down if you look at any year to year data, so manufactures have to market the latest and greatest technology whether you need it or not.
So OP is not talking about trash, you need to be open-minded and think outside the narrow box. Here is a quote from Steven Spielberg:
Technology can be our best friend, and technology can also be the biggest party pooper of our lives. It interrupts our own story, interrupts our ability to have a thought or a daydream, to imagine something wonderful, because we're too busy bridging the walk from the cafeteria back to the office on the cell phone.
Steven Spielberg
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I think you are being too harsh. You may not realize but Vinyls quality of sound beats CD quality any day. When was the last time you had the luxury of listening to a clean vinyl? Ok, enough about the vinyls. I think what OP is trying to say is limiting the choices. I personally, would not care if phone does not have a phone jack as long as there is a similar model with a jack option. When you buy a car, besides many other available options available under different package and price points, you STILL have an option to buy stick or automatic transmission. Some of the innovation being made under the banner of "technology and advancement" is simply a marketing hype. Smartphone sales are way down if you look at any year to year data, so manufactures have to market the latest and greatest technology whether you need it or not.
So OP is not talking about trash, you need to be open-minded and think outside the narrow box. Here is a quote from Steven Spielberg:
Technology can be our best friend, and technology can also be the biggest party pooper of our lives. It interrupts our own story, interrupts our ability to have a thought or a daydream, to imagine something wonderful, because we're too busy bridging the walk from the cafeteria back to the office on the cell phone.
Steven Spielberg
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Thanks. That was a perfect analogy.
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If you want to use wired headphones with your phpne, the OnePlus usbc dongle sounds about the same as the phpnes with the 3.5mm port. If you want true fidelity, you should try the digital audio players that was mentioned in a reply above. If you really want good quality playbacknon yoir phone, the only options are true USB-C DAC/AMP or bluetooth receivers like Fiio Q5S
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To be honest I could live with a phone with 2 usb-c. Just buy... 5 adapters and use some heatshrink to secure them.
As I'm writing this I'm using both the usb and the jack on my phone.
That wouldn't be too crazy would it?
Pawer8 said:
I'm sad to see that people are accepting the death of the headphone jack. We (humans) create tech therefore is tech that should adapt to us, not us to tech. I'm actually disappointed to see how xda gave this phone "the best phone award". Companies are toying with us and as a oneplus fan I'm really sad to see them continue this despite the complaints of many over the 6T. I just just bought a 5T myself because of this (6 has a notch so went for the 5t). I fear that in the future there will be no option for those who want a headphone jack. And even worse, no charging port.
To me the next logical step in this crazy trend is to get rid of the usb-c port. And seeing how well people are accepting the removal of the headphone jack I fear they will have no trouble in doing so.
And yes I get it the jack is quite big and limits screen size. But let's face it, it is really annoying to tap the edges of the screen by accident, which gets worse with these bezel-less phones, so please don't try to convince me.
I wanted to create a poll but I don't see an option on the app, so I will just ask these questions. Let me know what you think.
Aren't you worried that the next models will ship with wireless charging only?
Is that what we will see in the future?
Would OP join this crazy trend?
PS: I'm posting on the OP forum since what I wanna discuss here is what will happen in the future and what do you guys think OP will do about it.
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While I mean no offense to you, I think people who trash talk phones without headphone jacks just want something to complain about. The headphone jack isn't gone. Just use an adapter. There's your headphone jack as an option if you so desperately need it.
Sure, it's a half an inch long cord, but there's the absolutely perfect solution to your problem.
I know you're going to reply to this by saying "But it's so inconvenient! It would be so much more convenient if it was built in! I'll lose the cable!",
You can either use an adapter, hook it onto the end of your wired headphones so you don't lose it, or you can not have a headphone jack at all, and make posts on an anonymous Internet forum about how disappointed you are.
Technology nowadays is extremely powerful, and it's honestly a pretty amazing marvel of engineering and skill. A little lightweight rectangle that can access the biggest archive of information known to man, and you just kind of gripe about some port that you can reattach if you really wanted to? Or the size of a screen? If the screen is too big, get a smaller screen!
I really do apologise if this comes off as rude, but it seems really really trivial to me. The tech world can't cater to your every whim, and if you really want it to that bad, get a phone with a headphone jack and a smaller screen.
To me, your post just gives off a really, entitled sort of vibe. Again, no offense meant towards you.
Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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I am only using Buds series for a while as they came free with the S-series in Australia when pre-ordered. Very convenient.
Buds+ you need a set if for nothing other than phone calls. That's all I use on my 10+
Using the c port for audio output all the time is going to screw up cables and maybe the port it's self. Tell Samsung to not jack off
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Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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1. I use a USB C to 3.5mm convertor and good wired haedphones (with a wider soundstage and instrument separation) for immersive listening at home (usually in the eveing after dinner, before I go to bed). I use the dongle mainly becasue I already have wired headphones that I don't want collecting dust - and I don't want to spend a lot on larger wireless headphones when a relatively cheap adapter can do the same thing for me.
2. Galaxy Buds live for use during the workday for calls and casual music streaming while going running in the morning, or other outdoor activity. Very comfortable for long use, strong reliable connection and good mic quality for phone calls. Easy to carry around without a tangle of wires.
If I did not have a pre-existing collection of earphones, and was given a gun-to-the-head choice of just one device, I'd choose the wireless earbuds over the wired ones, simply because it fits my needs the best. YMMV.
The big Buds+ thread:
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I haven't used to Buds Pro so I can't comment on them but their body is a different design from the Buds and Buds+. The Pros may not stay in as well though.
The Buds/Buds+ are identical dimension wise.
The wings and ear pieces are interchangeable between these two models.
They don't fall out, ever. For calls you can put them in loosely and they still stay put. The Buds+ bring longer battery life (very long) and better sound Q than the Buds, I have both.
With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convenience. Buds are developing as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Another plus is the noise cancelling doesn't sap a lot of power which can lead to reduced volume. In conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
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With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convince. Buds are improving as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Used in conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
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Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
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Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
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One badass feature Poweramp has which other platforms lack is the preamp slider which actuates as a great gain function, it's versatility second to none.
Guys aren't you a little concerned about the safety of the TrueWireless (TW) buds? I mean, the fact that they have a direct wireless connection passing directly trough your brain, doesn't feels a bit weird.. Something about it seems fishy to me when I think of limiting radiation exposure.
I use Bluetooth headphones where the BT receiver is under my neck. The cable is separately connected to the KZ ZS6 which have 4 speakers in each headphone. The sound is out of this world.
Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah the massive amounts EM radiation that Nicola Tesla subjected himself to killed him at the early age of 86
If a little low energy EM is all it takes to TKO today's whatevers... good luck with the hard stuff.
babyboy3265 said:
Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
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Near Field Magnetic Induction (NFMI) is the wave you're concerned with, not the BT wave. It's been around a lot longer than BT, first used in hearing aids decades ago. Can't say if it's harmful but I'm sure studies have been done. You really like your setup, whatever works for you but I won't agree sound quality is capable of matching a good wired set. BT doesn't have the range wired sets offer, regardless of how you tweak the codecs, the conductivity is inherently deficient.
I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
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I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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You got LDAC and SSC. Get the Buds+ and be happy. I'm using them right now, been using them for the last couple hours... their battery life is really long and they sound good. They link up seamlessly with a Samsung phone. Samsung actually got it near perfect... finally
Or jump ship to the newest Sony with the codecs you want plus a 3.5 mm jack.
Given a choice I'll take a vinyl over a cd or anything digital every day of the week. Why, because it's direct sound, BT just gets in the way. The Samsung/AKG ANC's are dirt cheap with great response throughout the entire range.
Was listening to some old tunes, The Best of Simple Minds. What separates them from others is their dynamic composition and arrangement. As a musician when I listen to a song, I feel the song as a whole, but I'm paying much closer attention to each of the individual instruments. When you can hear the sound of the guitar pick hitting strings, not the reverberation of strings, the click of the pick, your know your audio signal is tight.
When I upgrade it's going to be wired with 4 drivers, likely the 1More Quad Driver, may have to deal with a dongle. There's virtually zero overlap of frequencies. Put that set in your ears and you'll throw rocks at any BT device on the planet.
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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Yeah, I totally agree there. Don't know why they did this but at least I can use LDAC and it sounds even better than aptX
Buds+ is mandatory for a Samsung phone if for nothing other than calls. Music sounds pretty good using SSC.
Now the real bad news...
No sealed system can faithfully reproduce the sound stage. You must have a minimum of 2 stereo open air speakers*. The stereo (or more) acoustic waves need open air to interact with one another to reproduce the sound stage. This is what creates the electronically coupled sound stage ie where it was recorded to your listening area.
Headsets and earbuds destroy the sound stage.
Even DTS and Dolby headphone solutions don't come close to the complex sound stage an open air system reproduces.
Read it and weep ( you will when you hear the difference).
*minimum 12 - 50,000+ hz frequency response for optimum sound stage