After the Livermorium keyboard mod finally failed, I got to work to create something myself, using my trusty 3D printer.
As a basis I am using an generic mini bluetooth keyboard. This thing comes under a variety of names, one of which is Jelly Comb IBK-26IM, but there are a lot of other names for this thing. Additionally to the full six-row keyboard (including dedicated rows for numbers and F-keys and keys like alt, ctrl, esc or shift) it also offers a mediocre touchpad for mouse control.
In the current iteration I only use a 3D printed clamp that connects the keyboard to the smartphone. This is a very simplistic approach but already this is a lot better than only using a touch keyboard.
I made a version that used laptop hinges from an old laptop to fold the keyboard to the back of the phone when not used (Motorola Backflip style), but the laptop hinges were way to strong. So I am currently working on a design using 3D-printed adjustible-strength torque hinges. I am thinking of making a double-hinged design that allows the keyboard to be folded both over the front (laptop style) and the back (Motorola Backflip style), so it can protect the keys and display when stored, and still be used in landscape with the keyboard out and in portrait mode with the keyboard folded to the back of the phone.
These designs I am working on will replace the back plate of the keyboard to reduce the thickness of the whole thing. I am also thinking about adding lead weights to the bottom of the keyboard to balance the top-heavyness, which is an issue, though surprisingly not a major one.
I also made a clamp to connect the smartphone with a Playstation 3 or XBox One controller.
Is anyone interested in either 3D-print files or 3D-printed parts for this? I can adjust the clamp part to work with about every smartphone.
Instead of putting lead weights.. try design it to have a kick stand.
BTW, it awesome for your work so far. Please continue and update here the improvements.
I would love to have one if all fit - slim - easy and most of all, work out perfectly...
Thanks for the interest and the feedback!
Where would you put the kickstand?
I have been using the clamp for a while now. It works pretty nicely. I am not sure if a joint is entirely necessary, since I can just pop the phone out of the clamp if I don't need the keyboard. I will build and test it though, just to see if it is an improvement.
A nice project. :good:
Though there already exists some clamshell variants like the Gemini and the Cosmo
My interest is primarily in a slider - though of course your solution is much better than touch-only.
I have my hopes up high for the "Q-device" hinted at e.g. here and until more news on that, i'm using a Snap-On keyboard for the Samsung S8- (Unfortunately it does not work completely on S9-, see this https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/accessories/keyboard-cover-s8-modified-s9-t3841101
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Just an Idea, depending on how the 3D-print and the hinge is joined. It could be nice if the two 3D-parts meet, and had some suitable cut-ins so it 'snapped' in place at a couple of angles. e.g. closed, open 120 degrees and open 180 degrees.
And If you can get hold of hinges like the Lenovo Yoga, it would be clever if it could bend over and stay in a couple of more angles, including 360 too...
Thank you!
The hinged version isn't actually a clamshell since it does not close with the display and the keyboard on the inside, but rather on the outside. Compared to a clamshell device this does not offer any protection for the screen and the keyboard, but it allows using the display in portrait mode without having the keyboard dangle off to one side. A double-hinged design would allow for both, closing it like a clamshell and also folding the keyboard to the backside.
I would prefer a slider as well, since it is a middle ground between both designs. The keyboard is protected and the screen is not, but you can still use the device in portrait mode. I have two problems with a slider design, though. First, I haven't found any 3D-printable (or cheap and very small buyable) sliding mechanisms. Second, because the sliding mechanism needs to attach to the top of the keyboard, I cannot build it into the back of the keyboard as I am doing with the folding mechanism. The back half of the keyboard is virtually empty and also the shape is pretty simple. So for the folding mechanism I am just going to replace that back half, thus saving a lot of thickness.
I attached renders of the backflip mechanism. Two of the renders show the device in the folded state, with the keyboard being on top, keys facing up, and the phone being on the bottom, screen facing down. The third render shows the mechanism in the opened state. The smartphone is inserted into the thin hoop part and the top half of the keyboard is screwed onto the wider flat panel on the right.
I will post pictures as soon as I'm done printing it and got it to work.
And also, thanks a lot for posting the link at the Keyboard Mod indiegogo page!
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I attached renders of the backflip mechanism. Two of the renders show the device in the folded state, with the keyboard being on top, keys facing up, and the phone being on the bottom, screen facing down. The third render shows the mechanism in the opened state. The smartphone is inserted into the thin hoop part and the top half of the keyboard is screwed onto the wider flat panel on the right.
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Ah I see, only 'backflipping'
You might consider something like this they even mention that you can request a sample, But 500 for $100 that should be enough for your immediate needs
I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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I'm not sure what the correct technical term is, perhaps "Locking hinge", what I mean is something along these lines integrated, but with a limited number of positions
https://www.yeggi.com/goto/l52hmXJ/...03endmN/Qq7Sc29yaqOXKY5nh04POrrC04a_smZusqZ2W
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I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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You might also consider a completely different approach with the two halves always parallel, and the mechanics at the ends, like this table thing.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61PZJuntwQL._SL1500_.jpg
(sort of most primtive 'slider', and if the arms got different lengths, you can get a tilt also)
This locking hinge design looks pretty simple. Should be no problem to incorporate that into my design.
A friend of mine had a smartphone a few years with this parallel-arms-design. I can't remember what it was. I think some Samsung phone. I don't think I can make this in 3D-print in the required size... I am thinking about a real slider though. Have to see if it is possible.
I tried printing the hinged design, but I don't have a good printing direction, since neither the top nor the bottom of the keyboard half are touching the floor. I need to rework this. Didn't have much time this weekend.
slider vs hinge
i get it that a hinge is easy to implement but would it not be better to try a sliding action over the hinge since it would allow for a end design
@Dakkaron If you're going for a DIY-solution, I'd suggest modding one of the many existing QWERTY-cases for the Galaxy S4, S5 and iPhone.
Several years ago I had one of those for my S4. The problem is, these are hard to come by, unless you live in the US.
I was also a backer of the keyboard mod, actually only bought the Moto Z because of that about 1,5 years go (and then had to replace it with a Z2 Play half a year ago).
As someone who was craving a keyboard smartphone for years, this is really frustrating.
In 2016 I switched to a Blackberry Priv - up until then I had an imported Droid 4 - but the lack of root and its terrible keyboard drove me away.
A few days ago I got a Gemini PDA and while it definitely has its benefits, it's not nearly as practical as a daily driver as a slider would be.
I wish I could just find one of the lucky few who got the keyboard mod and buy it from them for a hefty price.
As someone who struggles with these highly impractical touchscreen keyboards - even after 1,5 years - I'm really frustrated.
I simply don't get why many years ago smartphone producers suddenly forced keyboard-less phones on us up to the point where most people forgot about them.
It's not like people suddenly said 'we don't want a hardware keyboard anymore', they just stopped producing models with a keyboard.
But it's not like people don't want a physical keyboard!
I still know a few that just want to have a keyboard again. And everyone who's seen my keyboard phones so far immediately responded positively to them.
It's a shame that the options for people like us are so limited.
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Sure a slider would be better for a SPECIFIC combo, but I guess the hinge design is easier to make more general for different types of keyboards and phablets/phones.
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I'm certainly with you @Shani Ace
Personally in the waiting for a real slider, I prefer the primitive snap-on solution for e.g. the S8 as an intermediate device over a hinge design (no matter what way it folds).
(and I must admit I'm getting impatient for more information of the elusive Q device. The teaser page offers so little that it's more annoyance than tease...)
@noonebikes4free: I too would like a slider best, but I just have no idea how to make one. I have taken apart the Motorola Droid 3 and 4, so I know how their sliders work, but there is no way I can replicate that in 3D printed plastic and my metalworking skills are non-existant. So it is not a case of me being too lazy to design one, but rather one of me not having any idea how to make one. If you find a good example I'd be happy to clone it.
@Shani Ace: I was thinking about these slider cases as well, but as you mentioned, they are very hard to find. Also, they are tiny since they were designed for much smaller phones. I wanted a keyboard that would be about the same size as my phone.
I too got the Moto Z Play for the keyboard mod. Quite a disappointment.
I have been using the keyboard with only a snap-on clip for the last few weeks and that seems quite practical. If I need the keyboard, I snap it on. If I don't need it, I snap it off. But the clamp on the keyboard makes it a very awkward shape to carry it around. But I think I figured out a solution that is almost as good as a slider, and that's a swivel hinge (I think they are called that way). So the phone would then rotate like a Nokia Twist, but with the joint in the center of the side of the phone and it would rotate 180 degrees. That would store the keyboard the same way as on a slider, but it would be way easier to make and sturdier. Combine that with a locking swivel mechanism and easy detachability for when you only need the phone.
What fo you think?
@eske.rahn I actually used those snap-on keyboards for a while on an S6 edge and later again with a S7.
But there were a few downsides which made me switch again:
* no backlight
* it limits screen size significantly (I countered that by reducing the DPI, but still...)
* the display ratio is wierd (some apps didn't scale that well, you have to scroll a lot)
* while the keys were definitely better than those of the BB Priv, they were still not nearly as good as on classic sliders like the Droid 4
@Dakkaron I had to fiddle around a lot with those keyboard cases (something would constantly fall apart, usually the springs) and their mechanism seemed quite simple. Although maybe that was the reason why they weren't stable enough for daily usage, who knows.
From what I remember, the pictures and campaign updates for the moto keyboard mod were quite similar though.
If you scroll down to the section titled "Sliding Mechanism" here, you can still see the pictures of it. Maybe that helps?
Personally, I'm not a fan of swivel mechanisms (also don't need to detach).
Then I'd rather go with a flip (like your current one) or clamshell (Gemini) design, but don't particularly like those either.
Problem is, the Gemini PDA is somewhat impractical when you're on the go. You can't really open it one-handed and the keyboard is so huge (and not backlit) that you end up having to look at it while typing and you need to be a real finger acrobat to input certain symbols.
I was just tempted to buy a Droid 4 or Photon Q off ebay again, but then I remembered they don't support LTE over here...
Guess I really have to wait a few more months. I just hope the q-device will actually make it to a full product.
@Dakkaron and @Shani Ace at least the snap on can be clicked on the back too. (and on the S8 even as a camera protector) But I tend to simply carry the keyboard in the shirt-pocket, as it is so light. And yes the lack of backlight is really bad - especially as they do not have a mode where the software keyboard layout is identical to the hardware one, and this really confuses my memory... It would cost virtually NOTHING for them to offer as an optional layout, and would make it so much simpler to switch, depending on the length of the text we need to enter.
Note that the S8 is much more suited for this than the S6, as the native display is so extremely elongated.
And sure the snap-on is not really a solution. But it is tolerable workaround for some months, until we hopefully get a Q-device. :angel:
(And it is REALLY cumbersome to use in real-life in Danish, the frequently used national letters are a little hard to get, and it does not interact well with the word-prediction/spellchecker - and unfortunately they are VERY common in Danish)
Oh, I thought the S7 was the last device to get that keyboard cover. Guess I mistook the S9 for the S8. ^^
But now I remember another downside: it didn work with custom roms. Has that situation improved with the S8?
If so, that might actually be worth a try, at least for a few months.
I was one of the keyboard mod backers and now I will get the same bluetooth keyboard as you have. So please keep us informed
I found a simple approach with an attachable cover. I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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Hey, if you're successful with that, would you mind posting a how-to or even do it for others (for money) as well? Btw I'm also from Germany, so shipping would not be a problem.
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I was one of the keyboard mod backers and now I will get the same bluetooth keyboard as you have. So please keep us informed
I found a simple approach with an attachable cover. I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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Actually you can get better solutions for the aPple Iphone6. See e.g. https://eskerahn.dk/wordpress/?p=554
But BE AWARE though standard BT keyboards works on Iphones, many Iphone keyboards does NOT work on standard phones/phablets...:silly:
I know it's a little off-topic, but @eske.rahn Mind answering my question from before (I guess it wasn't really clear, my bad)?
You said you were using the S8 with the keyboard cover. Does that still limited you to stock-based ROMs or is there a solution to use the keyboard cover with other ROMs (like RR, Lineage etc.) as well?
I just got an S7 and the keyboard cover will arrive in a few days, so I'm prepping everything right now to turn it into my daily driver until the q-device is released.
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At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?
yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.
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I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.
i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41
madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.
Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.
I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin
It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.
try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...
There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD
I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!
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I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!
I'd first like to give everyone a big hello as I am normally a wall flower in this sense. I wanted to discuss the whole evolution in the mobile and PC world, specifically using the nexus 7 as an example. For instance I tend to find the new PC keyboard much easier to use, and the predictive text with auto correct seems to actually help than hinder. I am excited to try the new swype like keyboard in 4.2 but I'm hoping it soon takes on the keyboard in keymonk. I have noticed that things seem to be running much smoother in 4.1.2, namely screen transitions. In my experience the slides used to have a slight jitter, yet now they are back to their flawless motion. I am a not urked that we don't have a micro expansion or a rear facing camera as both features were put in the galaxy tab 2 7inch. I have experienced one drop already, it fell screen down completely naked and only suffered a small scrape to the bezel of the device. Lastly I'd like to see some more nexus friendly peripherals, like a manufactured attachment for surface charging or cases with built in storage and batteries. Sure you'd face the ever ugly sacrifice size for capacity and performance..but what can you do. I was a bit upset when only patrons who purchased the 16 got upgrade offers, and I'm hoping that by the end of the year maybe if the device goes through enough revisions I can claim my warranty and maybe get a newer model. Oh and one final note is a fine point stylus! I would love a stylus like the note, it seems so much more accurate compared to the rubber tips. Maybe bluetooth enabled so it can use angle sensors, or provide map able keys. Or maybe a nifty half case keyboard like the I pad and windows 8 tablets have. So in turn I want to hear what others think on that level. Maybe we can get some solid ideas in one place for the higher ups to see.
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Hi, sorry for a silly question, but ... 'm currently using a simple $5 stylus, how does S-pen differ? (considering they say it's the major point of Note8 vs S8+ and it comes at $90 higher price, at least in my country)
My assumptions:
* sharpness
* durability / build quality
* can be carried with the phone inside it
* integration (I think it launches some kind of note pad when ejected with turned off screen? not sure)
anything above incorrect, anything besides the above?
Thank you
There are software features to go along with the s-pen, my favorite being smart select. It can be used to select text and translate it as well as cutout a specific part of an image. I like to use that feature to make other pics.
The spen to me is way better the any 3rd party stylus could be.
1. The spen is always there. It slides into the phone and no new to look for it.
Its wireless touch. Which means you can hover over the screen and do different things. Like translate, mark highlight.
The tip is smaller then most 3rd party. Letting you see more of what your doing.
The screen off memo works great. I ise it all the time. Pull the spen out and the screen goes black. Write your note then out it back in and it save. If you need to see the note again or add to it. Tap it from the lock screen or pull the spen out again.
Has a button on the side which can controller things like earse or go back.
Its has touch. So if you apply more or pess pressure it can simulate that and drawings.
Of you can go to a store and play around with the spen.
To me its great
Pixel level precision, not very important for everyday task but once you want to do real work then there is no substitute.
I tried plastic and rubber tipped pens before: Out of 3 stylus I originally purchased, I lost 2 within few weeks and I know the last one is somewhere in the house, but no idea exactly where. And even when I had them, they were never with me, when I needed them. I use Note phones for most of the last 4 yrs and have not lost one s-pen, it's always with the phone and it will sound warning if pen left behind. Also the precision, functionality and extra programs that come along are unique to Note series. I use my phone 24/7 and s-pen about 50% of the time (it's like a mouse on my computer) and at this point I don't care much for any other phone outside of Note series. Besides, it just happens Note 8 is one the best phones money can buy right now. Now, I don't know if $90 is a big deal for you, it won't make any difference for me and I can save much more elsewhere. BTW if you're on a tight budget, maybe you should look at phones like Blu, you save much more than $90 and they almost as good. If it wasn't for s-pen I would probably look at them closely myself.
Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding
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Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding
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What, the S-Pen isn't a big deal or what are you referring to?
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I just made a paper template of the device and discovered that it would make a whole lot more sense for it to fold landscape instead of portrait.
You still have the same size internal display, but the outer display is then as wide as the Note line, just a little shorter.
It would make the external screen far more usable instead of a tall candy bar, the keyboard would be as wide as Sammy's other flagship devices.
It makes me wonder why they decided to fold this way instead, ending up with a tall narrow device.
Try it! Draw around the unfolded device, cut the template and then fold it the other way. In fact it looks a hell of a lot like Samsung's famous foldy phone vision of the future from a decade ago.
I've kinda thought this since I got the phone. I don't know if a larger outer screen meant it would cost more?
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I've kinda thought this since I got the phone. I don't know if a larger outer screen meant it would cost more?
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You would still have roughly the same pixel volume, just in a different aspect ratio, and seeing as sammy produce the screens in the first place I couldn't see it being a problem.
It would certainly give me reason to upgrade to the ZF 3! Tall candy bar sucks.
lets see what Samsung people decides, we don't have choices for the design ideas
In a rectangular area in bottom of screen s pan doesn't draw.Tried with samsung notes and sabre.
Otherwise, the spen works fine, like sliding, pointing and all......It's the same with hades rom and linaege rom. Why would that be ?
I sorta got a similar issue but it's the top half and only touch with my fingers doesnt work , but the spen works all over it. The last thing I recall before it happened was an alert regarding Samsung One Ui 1.0 no longer being maintained and if I remember correctly back a few years ago, there was a similar issue when it was called TouchWiz or somethinf. I've poured through manifest logs, permissions, many root files and I'm not sure but jmy speculation is some kind of way to force me to go buy a new phone
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I sorta got a similar issue but it's the top half and only touch with my fingers doesnt work , but the spen works all over it. The last thing I recall before it happened was an alert regarding Samsung One Ui 1.0 no longer being maintained and if I remember correctly back a few years ago, there was a similar issue when it was called TouchWiz or somethinf. I've poured through manifest logs, permissions, many root files and I'm not sure but jmy speculation is some kind of way to force me to go buy a new phone
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I've seen such a problem, when one half of display works only with s pen, but no fingers. It's a problem sth. called "digitizer".... From what I know it's a hardware issue, replacement needed.
It's been going strong for 6 years now andthat issue popped up just a few months ago so now time to math lol..I wonder what price of digitizer is, if that comes separate from glass,bc will need both sides in glass covering, special tool in video looks crazy?
Could i use the all the hardware guts and move them into a Tablet which is just a shell with only a screen and digitizer on it . Would have better sized screen with spen, plus leaves tons of additional room to expand memory/battery/sound/cameras
CageTheTerrapin said:
It's been going strong for 6 years now andthat issue popped up just a few months ago so now time to math lol..I wonder what price of digitizer is, if that comes separate from glass,bc will need both sides in glass covering, special tool in video looks crazy?
Could i use the all the hardware guts and move them into a Tablet which is just a shell with only a screen and digitizer on it . Would have better sized screen with spen, plus leaves tons of additional room to expand memory/battery/sound/cameras
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You can't move the internals to a tablet sized, the screen would require to fix on the tablet which most tablets have a different type of connector than the Note 8.