S-pen features - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi, sorry for a silly question, but ... 'm currently using a simple $5 stylus, how does S-pen differ? (considering they say it's the major point of Note8 vs S8+ and it comes at $90 higher price, at least in my country)
My assumptions:
* sharpness
* durability / build quality
* can be carried with the phone inside it
* integration (I think it launches some kind of note pad when ejected with turned off screen? not sure)
anything above incorrect, anything besides the above?
Thank you

There are software features to go along with the s-pen, my favorite being smart select. It can be used to select text and translate it as well as cutout a specific part of an image. I like to use that feature to make other pics.

The spen to me is way better the any 3rd party stylus could be.
1. The spen is always there. It slides into the phone and no new to look for it.
Its wireless touch. Which means you can hover over the screen and do different things. Like translate, mark highlight.
The tip is smaller then most 3rd party. Letting you see more of what your doing.
The screen off memo works great. I ise it all the time. Pull the spen out and the screen goes black. Write your note then out it back in and it save. If you need to see the note again or add to it. Tap it from the lock screen or pull the spen out again.
Has a button on the side which can controller things like earse or go back.
Its has touch. So if you apply more or pess pressure it can simulate that and drawings.
Of you can go to a store and play around with the spen.
To me its great

Pixel level precision, not very important for everyday task but once you want to do real work then there is no substitute.

I tried plastic and rubber tipped pens before: Out of 3 stylus I originally purchased, I lost 2 within few weeks and I know the last one is somewhere in the house, but no idea exactly where. And even when I had them, they were never with me, when I needed them. I use Note phones for most of the last 4 yrs and have not lost one s-pen, it's always with the phone and it will sound warning if pen left behind. Also the precision, functionality and extra programs that come along are unique to Note series. I use my phone 24/7 and s-pen about 50% of the time (it's like a mouse on my computer) and at this point I don't care much for any other phone outside of Note series. Besides, it just happens Note 8 is one the best phones money can buy right now. Now, I don't know if $90 is a big deal for you, it won't make any difference for me and I can save much more elsewhere. BTW if you're on a tight budget, maybe you should look at phones like Blu, you save much more than $90 and they almost as good. If it wasn't for s-pen I would probably look at them closely myself.

Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding

NoxArt said:
Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding
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What, the S-Pen isn't a big deal or what are you referring to?

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I don't know if $90 is a big deal for you
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Samsung galaxy note as a NOTEBOOK?

Hey guys, I know turning your cellphone as an actual notebook might seem like a very stupid idea but I seen your sketches and they were all pretty well done that I'm assuming the S-pen really does have the ability to work as a real pen.
THE QUESTION:
Have you ever thought of using (or used) your note as an actual notebook, if so, how is it?
Please feel free to post pictures of your handwriting, also I have no intention of using the handwriting recognition (my handwriting is messy and that is the only way I would want it), I just think the galaxy note would serve as a mini notebook for my psychology classes that only requires me to take minimal notes.
Also, If you'd tell me to search reviews or whatnot..like the other thread had said, I think the reason why reviewers take the Note negatively is because they haven't spent much time with it. So I would prefer asking the real users..
alsseja said:
Hey guys, I know turning your cellphone as an actual notebook might seem like a very stupid idea but I seen your sketches and they were all pretty well done that I'm assuming the S-pen really does have the ability to work as a real pen.
THE QUESTION:
Have you ever thought of using (or used) your note as an actual notebook, if so, how is it?
Please feel free to post pictures of your handwriting, also I have no intention of using the handwriting recognition (my handwriting is messy and that is the only way I would want it), I just think the galaxy note would serve as a mini notebook for my psychology classes that only requires me to take minimal notes.
Also, If you'd tell me to search reviews or whatnot..like the other thread had said, I think the reason why reviewers take the Note negatively is because they haven't spent much time with it. So I would prefer asking the real users..
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I regularly use the Note to take notes when I attend meetings or to randomly jot down ideas or info that I receive on the go, and I find it is about ideal for the job. Huge amounts of writing at a time may be a different story
One typical use is noting down the details of animals that I insure in the field. I do not have to carry a separate note book, and all the info is right to hand whenever I need it.
Like you, I have a really messy hand, and I find that my screen protector's slightly matte texture provides much better feel than does the plain glass screen.
My only problem is that I often accidentally rest my wrist on the back button, thus closing the note while I am in the process of writing. Holding your wrist up for long periods can be painful (probably one of the only advantages of a paper notebook). If there were some way to de-activate the back button in S-Memo or S-Note, I would be absolutely set.
pillainp said:
I regularly use the Note to take notes when I attend meetings or to randomly jot down ideas or info that I receive on the go, and I find it is about ideal for the job. Huge amounts of writing at a time may be a different story
One typical use is noting down the details of animals that I insure in the field. I do not have to carry a separate note book, and all the info is right to hand whenever I need it.
Like you, I have a really messy hand, and I find that my screen protector's slightly matte texture provides much better feel than does the plain glass screen.
My only problem is that I often accidentally rest my wrist on the back button, thus closing the note while I am in the process of writing. Holding your wrist up for long periods can be painful (probably one of the only advantages of a paper notebook). If there were some way to de-activate the back button in S-Memo or S-Note, I would be absolutely set.
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I think there's an app that has disabled the back button.But in ICS it saves before exiting so you don't lose anything.
Thanks guys, I've decided to get this phone rather than the s3. I have more use for this one. =)
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My only problem is that I often accidentally rest my wrist on the back button, thus closing the note while I am in the process of writing. Holding your wrist up for long periods can be painful (probably one of the only advantages of a paper notebook). If there were some way to de-activate the back button in S-Memo or S-Note, I would be absolutely set.
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In snote if the pen is close to the screen or touching it, then the back button is disabled.
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S-pen replacement and calibration

This is a two part question.
Firstly does anyone know if there is a way to calibrate the s-pen. Mine seems ever so slightly off when writing as I would with a normal pen (on a slight angle).
I also have the bamboo feel but that is even worse (around 2-3 mm off).
Next question is are there any other s-pen out that like the bamboo feel? I like the bigger size of it as it's more comfortable for writing with but accuracy seems to be the issue with some third part pens. I'm surprised there issue nothing from Samsung already for the note 5. I understand there are the pen holder or the bt pen but those are for older devices so I'm not sure how accurate they are or compatible.
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AndiF85 said:
This is a two part question.
Firstly does anyone know if there is a way to calibrate the s-pen. Mine seems ever so slightly off when writing as I would with a normal pen (on a slight angle).
I also have the bamboo feel but that is even worse (around 2-3 mm off).
Next question is are there any other s-pen out that like the bamboo feel? I like the bigger size of it as it's more comfortable for writing with but accuracy seems to be the issue with some third part pens. I'm surprised there issue nothing from Samsung already for the note 5. I understand there are the pen holder or the bt pen but those are for older devices so I'm not sure how accurate they are or compatible.
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Can you make sure that there is no cover when trying, as magnetic covers or even flip covers cause the S-pen to be inaccurate.
in older models, magnet closure cases made a huge difference.
Hello; I am not sure if anyone had such problem about note5 spen. . I can't use with spen whole screen..i mean at the middle of one side is not seen by spen although I can write that side with my finger..how can i solve this problem? Thank you anybody who responses!!
free123rww said:
Hello; I am not sure if anyone had such problem about note5 spen. . I can't use with spen whole screen..i mean at the middle of one side is not seen by spen although I can write that side with my finger..how can i solve this problem? Thank you anybody who responses!!
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Using a case with a magnet?
There are these larger pens. never tried one myself.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...960876?hash=item2106bcdaec:g:yi4AAOSwAYtWMwmG
free123rww said:
Hello; I am not sure if anyone had such problem about note5 spen. . I can't use with spen whole screen..i mean at the middle of one side is not seen by spen although I can write that side with my finger..how can i solve this problem? Thank you anybody who responses!!
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Try typing in *#0*# in your dialer. This will bring up the integrated hardware test. There should be one for S-Pen (not touch) and try it on that screen. If it does not pass the test, then you are probably looking at a hardware failure/malfunction.
Broke my S pen when my phone fell. Any good sites to get a replacement?
Try spen with eraser.
mexkingsthugz said:
Broke my S pen when my phone fell. Any good sites to get a replacement?
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Amazon is where I would go, cheaper deals else where could be sketchy.
bosswick said:
Try typing in *#0*# in your dialer. This will bring up the integrated hardware test. There should be one for S-Pen (not touch) and try it on that screen. If it does not pass the test, then you are probably looking at a hardware failure/malfunction.
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Good information to know just in case .... one never knows when 'Ol Murphy will decide to put his most famous law into action. ... " Anything that can go wrong usually will."
I know this is an old post, but I am trying to find a gold s-pen. Samsung doesn't sell them on their site. To get mine warranties will take over a month. I have seen them on Amazon but really no where else. Wondering if anyone has tried them and any issues. Where do you recommend?
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I know this is an old post, but I am trying to find a gold s-pen. Samsung doesn't sell them on their site. To get mine warranties will take over a month. I have seen them on Amazon but really no where else. Wondering if anyone has tried them and any issues. Where do you recommend?
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Did you manage to find one? Amazon is $20+, lots of cheap ones from China for $5.
Found one on Amazon that comes in Samsung packaging. WORKS LIKE ORIGINAL
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For what it is worth...
I have both a NOTE 3 and a NOTE 5
The 5 I only bought recently and the Stylus hole was blocked and there was some weird other stylus somehow wedged into it.
The previous owner knew he was selling me a duffer but there we go.
Anyway, I managed to get it out and I bought a new stylus for it, but the bloody thing was not quite right... It was something like about 1.5mm off down and right. I am very very good with sizes and so trust me, its more than 1mm but not quite 2mm but thats by the sideways... I just assumed that the bloody thing needs calibrating to this stylus.
Anyway, it was some time later that I thought... Why not try the note 3 and 5 styluses on each other... They both work just fine, but guess what? It was not the screen that needed calibrating at all? - the stylus is to blame.
The Note 5 stylus is wonky just the same on the Note 3 and the Note 3 Stylus is perfect on the Note 5
If only I could swap them over?
But there you go... Maybe its a new stylus or a replacement stylus you should be looking for and not a calibration of the screen?
yeah mines a few mm's off as well. its very annoying.
There is also a waycom test in the integrated hardware test menu (this would be good for seeing how your s-pen registers on the screen)
Also you may want to try another N5 s-pen (if you know someone that has one see how it does, the one you have may have a defect)
You can take off the cover on the button of the spen and there's a tuning adjuster under it. Factory is set to be off a little.
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You can take off the cover on the button of the spen and there's a tuning adjuster under it. Factory is set to be off a little.
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whut? seriously?
Sounds dodge to me. Got pics?
FatRakoon said:
For what it is worth...
I have both a NOTE 3 and a NOTE 5
The 5 I only bought recently and the Stylus hole was blocked and there was some weird other stylus somehow wedged into it.
The previous owner knew he was selling me a duffer but there we go.
Anyway, I managed to get it out and I bought a new stylus for it, but the bloody thing was not quite right... It was something like about 1.5mm off down and right. I am very very good with sizes and so trust me, its more than 1mm but not quite 2mm but thats by the sideways... I just assumed that the bloody thing needs calibrating to this stylus.
Anyway, it was some time later that I thought... Why not try the note 3 and 5 styluses on each other... They both work just fine, but guess what? It was not the screen that needed calibrating at all? - the stylus is to blame.
The Note 5 stylus is wonky just the same on the Note 3 and the Note 3 Stylus is perfect on the Note 5
If only I could swap them over?
But there you go... Maybe its a new stylus or a replacement stylus you should be looking for and not a calibration of the screen?
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I tried Note 4 stylus on Note 5 and it felt like a Note 7 stylus on Note 7. Note 5 stylus is useless. in comparison.
So stupid that companies still make Note cases with friggin battery clips on them. But then again there seems to be a fair amount of people who buy these Note devices but rarely use the S-Pen which is bizarre to me.

App and stylus for writing on photos

Anyone have any suggestions of a good app to purchase and a good fine tipped stylus for tasks like writing on photos,etc.... Like you could do on Samsung Note devices? Since leaving my Note for this beast that is one of the things I still miss about it.
Did you ever find an app. I have a pile of note 3 stylus I can use. The stylus is the only thing that I miss after getting the the nexus 6.
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Did you ever find an app. I have a pile of note 3 stylus I can use. The stylus is the only thing that I miss after getting the the nexus 6.
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The note 3 stylus unfortunately don't work on nex6. I am using 2 different note apps floating notes https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ashk.minifloatingnotes
I think I paid a small fee for added features for it
And Squid(I paid for the better eraser options but I did not buy into their monthly/yearly subscriptions nonsense)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus
I bought a lynktec fine tipped Bluetooth pen and it is a giant hunk of crap. I can write just as good if not better with my fingernail and it is not the devices fault. On my nex6 I have a glass screen protector and on my nex10 I have none and it doesn't write fluidly on either. I make due with my fingernail till I find a real world solution. I mostly just take notes for work and not a lot of them so for now it is all I can come up with. Those 2 note apps I am pleased with though. If you use squid I suggest you always have the next blank page pulled up before you close the program. Somehow it erased an entire page of my notes somehow that I couldn't recover so at least if the app gets open in your pocket somehow by mistake you will have more of a fail safe I think if it was on the next blank page last.

DIY Moto Keyboard Mod

After the Livermorium keyboard mod finally failed, I got to work to create something myself, using my trusty 3D printer.
As a basis I am using an generic mini bluetooth keyboard. This thing comes under a variety of names, one of which is Jelly Comb IBK-26IM, but there are a lot of other names for this thing. Additionally to the full six-row keyboard (including dedicated rows for numbers and F-keys and keys like alt, ctrl, esc or shift) it also offers a mediocre touchpad for mouse control.
In the current iteration I only use a 3D printed clamp that connects the keyboard to the smartphone. This is a very simplistic approach but already this is a lot better than only using a touch keyboard.
I made a version that used laptop hinges from an old laptop to fold the keyboard to the back of the phone when not used (Motorola Backflip style), but the laptop hinges were way to strong. So I am currently working on a design using 3D-printed adjustible-strength torque hinges. I am thinking of making a double-hinged design that allows the keyboard to be folded both over the front (laptop style) and the back (Motorola Backflip style), so it can protect the keys and display when stored, and still be used in landscape with the keyboard out and in portrait mode with the keyboard folded to the back of the phone.
These designs I am working on will replace the back plate of the keyboard to reduce the thickness of the whole thing. I am also thinking about adding lead weights to the bottom of the keyboard to balance the top-heavyness, which is an issue, though surprisingly not a major one.
I also made a clamp to connect the smartphone with a Playstation 3 or XBox One controller.
Is anyone interested in either 3D-print files or 3D-printed parts for this? I can adjust the clamp part to work with about every smartphone.
Instead of putting lead weights.. try design it to have a kick stand.
BTW, it awesome for your work so far. Please continue and update here the improvements.
I would love to have one if all fit - slim - easy and most of all, work out perfectly...
Thanks for the interest and the feedback!
Where would you put the kickstand?
I have been using the clamp for a while now. It works pretty nicely. I am not sure if a joint is entirely necessary, since I can just pop the phone out of the clamp if I don't need the keyboard. I will build and test it though, just to see if it is an improvement.
A nice project. :good:
Though there already exists some clamshell variants like the Gemini and the Cosmo
My interest is primarily in a slider - though of course your solution is much better than touch-only.
I have my hopes up high for the "Q-device" hinted at e.g. here and until more news on that, i'm using a Snap-On keyboard for the Samsung S8- (Unfortunately it does not work completely on S9-, see this https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/accessories/keyboard-cover-s8-modified-s9-t3841101
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Just an Idea, depending on how the 3D-print and the hinge is joined. It could be nice if the two 3D-parts meet, and had some suitable cut-ins so it 'snapped' in place at a couple of angles. e.g. closed, open 120 degrees and open 180 degrees.
And If you can get hold of hinges like the Lenovo Yoga, it would be clever if it could bend over and stay in a couple of more angles, including 360 too...
Thank you!
The hinged version isn't actually a clamshell since it does not close with the display and the keyboard on the inside, but rather on the outside. Compared to a clamshell device this does not offer any protection for the screen and the keyboard, but it allows using the display in portrait mode without having the keyboard dangle off to one side. A double-hinged design would allow for both, closing it like a clamshell and also folding the keyboard to the backside.
I would prefer a slider as well, since it is a middle ground between both designs. The keyboard is protected and the screen is not, but you can still use the device in portrait mode. I have two problems with a slider design, though. First, I haven't found any 3D-printable (or cheap and very small buyable) sliding mechanisms. Second, because the sliding mechanism needs to attach to the top of the keyboard, I cannot build it into the back of the keyboard as I am doing with the folding mechanism. The back half of the keyboard is virtually empty and also the shape is pretty simple. So for the folding mechanism I am just going to replace that back half, thus saving a lot of thickness.
I attached renders of the backflip mechanism. Two of the renders show the device in the folded state, with the keyboard being on top, keys facing up, and the phone being on the bottom, screen facing down. The third render shows the mechanism in the opened state. The smartphone is inserted into the thin hoop part and the top half of the keyboard is screwed onto the wider flat panel on the right.
I will post pictures as soon as I'm done printing it and got it to work.
And also, thanks a lot for posting the link at the Keyboard Mod indiegogo page!
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I attached renders of the backflip mechanism. Two of the renders show the device in the folded state, with the keyboard being on top, keys facing up, and the phone being on the bottom, screen facing down. The third render shows the mechanism in the opened state. The smartphone is inserted into the thin hoop part and the top half of the keyboard is screwed onto the wider flat panel on the right.
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Ah I see, only 'backflipping'
You might consider something like this they even mention that you can request a sample, But 500 for $100 that should be enough for your immediate needs
I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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I'm not sure what the correct technical term is, perhaps "Locking hinge", what I mean is something along these lines integrated, but with a limited number of positions
https://www.yeggi.com/goto/l52hmXJ/...03endmN/Qq7Sc29yaqOXKY5nh04POrrC04a_smZusqZ2W
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Dakkaron said:
I think I will first try it with 3D printed joints, since there I can adjust the resistance. I already tried it with other laptop hinges, but they were extremely tough, so it was impossible to fold the device without breaking something. Maybe there is something like that with adjustable torque, that would be good.
The version I am currently working on will work like the Motorola Backflip, which is where I got the term from.
Edit: @eske.rahn: I just saw your edit to the first post. Cut-ins sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can get something like that to work.
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You might also consider a completely different approach with the two halves always parallel, and the mechanics at the ends, like this table thing.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61PZJuntwQL._SL1500_.jpg
(sort of most primtive 'slider', and if the arms got different lengths, you can get a tilt also)
This locking hinge design looks pretty simple. Should be no problem to incorporate that into my design.
A friend of mine had a smartphone a few years with this parallel-arms-design. I can't remember what it was. I think some Samsung phone. I don't think I can make this in 3D-print in the required size... I am thinking about a real slider though. Have to see if it is possible.
I tried printing the hinged design, but I don't have a good printing direction, since neither the top nor the bottom of the keyboard half are touching the floor. I need to rework this. Didn't have much time this weekend.
slider vs hinge
i get it that a hinge is easy to implement but would it not be better to try a sliding action over the hinge since it would allow for a end design
@Dakkaron If you're going for a DIY-solution, I'd suggest modding one of the many existing QWERTY-cases for the Galaxy S4, S5 and iPhone.
Several years ago I had one of those for my S4. The problem is, these are hard to come by, unless you live in the US.
I was also a backer of the keyboard mod, actually only bought the Moto Z because of that about 1,5 years go (and then had to replace it with a Z2 Play half a year ago).
As someone who was craving a keyboard smartphone for years, this is really frustrating.
In 2016 I switched to a Blackberry Priv - up until then I had an imported Droid 4 - but the lack of root and its terrible keyboard drove me away.
A few days ago I got a Gemini PDA and while it definitely has its benefits, it's not nearly as practical as a daily driver as a slider would be.
I wish I could just find one of the lucky few who got the keyboard mod and buy it from them for a hefty price.
As someone who struggles with these highly impractical touchscreen keyboards - even after 1,5 years - I'm really frustrated.
I simply don't get why many years ago smartphone producers suddenly forced keyboard-less phones on us up to the point where most people forgot about them.
It's not like people suddenly said 'we don't want a hardware keyboard anymore', they just stopped producing models with a keyboard.
But it's not like people don't want a physical keyboard!
I still know a few that just want to have a keyboard again. And everyone who's seen my keyboard phones so far immediately responded positively to them.
It's a shame that the options for people like us are so limited.
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Sure a slider would be better for a SPECIFIC combo, but I guess the hinge design is easier to make more general for different types of keyboards and phablets/phones.
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I'm certainly with you @Shani Ace
Personally in the waiting for a real slider, I prefer the primitive snap-on solution for e.g. the S8 as an intermediate device over a hinge design (no matter what way it folds).
(and I must admit I'm getting impatient for more information of the elusive Q device. The teaser page offers so little that it's more annoyance than tease...)
@noonebikes4free: I too would like a slider best, but I just have no idea how to make one. I have taken apart the Motorola Droid 3 and 4, so I know how their sliders work, but there is no way I can replicate that in 3D printed plastic and my metalworking skills are non-existant. So it is not a case of me being too lazy to design one, but rather one of me not having any idea how to make one. If you find a good example I'd be happy to clone it.
@Shani Ace: I was thinking about these slider cases as well, but as you mentioned, they are very hard to find. Also, they are tiny since they were designed for much smaller phones. I wanted a keyboard that would be about the same size as my phone.
I too got the Moto Z Play for the keyboard mod. Quite a disappointment.
I have been using the keyboard with only a snap-on clip for the last few weeks and that seems quite practical. If I need the keyboard, I snap it on. If I don't need it, I snap it off. But the clamp on the keyboard makes it a very awkward shape to carry it around. But I think I figured out a solution that is almost as good as a slider, and that's a swivel hinge (I think they are called that way). So the phone would then rotate like a Nokia Twist, but with the joint in the center of the side of the phone and it would rotate 180 degrees. That would store the keyboard the same way as on a slider, but it would be way easier to make and sturdier. Combine that with a locking swivel mechanism and easy detachability for when you only need the phone.
What fo you think?
@eske.rahn I actually used those snap-on keyboards for a while on an S6 edge and later again with a S7.
But there were a few downsides which made me switch again:
* no backlight
* it limits screen size significantly (I countered that by reducing the DPI, but still...)
* the display ratio is wierd (some apps didn't scale that well, you have to scroll a lot)
* while the keys were definitely better than those of the BB Priv, they were still not nearly as good as on classic sliders like the Droid 4
@Dakkaron I had to fiddle around a lot with those keyboard cases (something would constantly fall apart, usually the springs) and their mechanism seemed quite simple. Although maybe that was the reason why they weren't stable enough for daily usage, who knows.
From what I remember, the pictures and campaign updates for the moto keyboard mod were quite similar though.
If you scroll down to the section titled "Sliding Mechanism" here, you can still see the pictures of it. Maybe that helps?
Personally, I'm not a fan of swivel mechanisms (also don't need to detach).
Then I'd rather go with a flip (like your current one) or clamshell (Gemini) design, but don't particularly like those either.
Problem is, the Gemini PDA is somewhat impractical when you're on the go. You can't really open it one-handed and the keyboard is so huge (and not backlit) that you end up having to look at it while typing and you need to be a real finger acrobat to input certain symbols.
I was just tempted to buy a Droid 4 or Photon Q off ebay again, but then I remembered they don't support LTE over here...
Guess I really have to wait a few more months. I just hope the q-device will actually make it to a full product.
@Dakkaron and @Shani Ace at least the snap on can be clicked on the back too. (and on the S8 even as a camera protector) But I tend to simply carry the keyboard in the shirt-pocket, as it is so light. And yes the lack of backlight is really bad - especially as they do not have a mode where the software keyboard layout is identical to the hardware one, and this really confuses my memory... It would cost virtually NOTHING for them to offer as an optional layout, and would make it so much simpler to switch, depending on the length of the text we need to enter.
Note that the S8 is much more suited for this than the S6, as the native display is so extremely elongated.
And sure the snap-on is not really a solution. But it is tolerable workaround for some months, until we hopefully get a Q-device. :angel:
(And it is REALLY cumbersome to use in real-life in Danish, the frequently used national letters are a little hard to get, and it does not interact well with the word-prediction/spellchecker - and unfortunately they are VERY common in Danish)
Oh, I thought the S7 was the last device to get that keyboard cover. Guess I mistook the S9 for the S8. ^^
But now I remember another downside: it didn work with custom roms. Has that situation improved with the S8?
If so, that might actually be worth a try, at least for a few months.
I was one of the keyboard mod backers and now I will get the same bluetooth keyboard as you have. So please keep us informed
I found a simple approach with an attachable cover. I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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Hey, if you're successful with that, would you mind posting a how-to or even do it for others (for money) as well? Btw I'm also from Germany, so shipping would not be a problem.
Snoere said:
I was one of the keyboard mod backers and now I will get the same bluetooth keyboard as you have. So please keep us informed
I found a simple approach with an attachable cover. I'm thinking of adding a simple slide-out mechanism to the back of a cheap case.
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Actually you can get better solutions for the aPple Iphone6. See e.g. https://eskerahn.dk/wordpress/?p=554
But BE AWARE though standard BT keyboards works on Iphones, many Iphone keyboards does NOT work on standard phones/phablets...:silly:
I know it's a little off-topic, but @eske.rahn Mind answering my question from before (I guess it wasn't really clear, my bad)?
You said you were using the S8 with the keyboard cover. Does that still limited you to stock-based ROMs or is there a solution to use the keyboard cover with other ROMs (like RR, Lineage etc.) as well?
I just got an S7 and the keyboard cover will arrive in a few days, so I'm prepping everything right now to turn it into my daily driver until the q-device is released.

I'm returning it

I'm taking my S10 back. I find texting difficult, my palm keeps touching the side and causes me to hit the return or a different key. I feel like I need to hold the phone with my other hand and very carefully tap each letter with a precise touch. I also find when viewing YouTube videos the camera hole is just in my view, so I can't view videos in full screen. The screen is nice though, colors are great. I don't use the fingerprint reader.
Have you tried switching accidental touch on in settings?
When watching vids I rotate the phone so the hole punch is in the bottom right corner
Yes, tried that.
Get the S10e. It'll alleviate some of your issues.
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I'm taking my S10 back. I find texting difficult, my palm keeps touching the side and causes me to hit the return or a different key. I feel like I need to hold the phone with my other hand and very carefully tap each letter with a precise touch. I also find when viewing YouTube videos the camera hole is just in my view, so I can't view videos in full screen. The screen is nice though, colors are great. I don't use the fingerprint reader.
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Install from Galaxy store, samsungs, edgeTouch.
It helps unwanted touches from the curved screen.
Helps a lot!!
Edgetouch may help accidental button push but not a 1/4" hole starring at me when watching videos. If only they center dropped the camera ilike the OnePlus 6t instead of placing it in the corner.
The main reason I have a strong dislike for the edge versions.
Thank you all for your feedbacks. I might exchange it for the 10e or swap to the OnePlus.
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Thank you all for your feedbacks. I might exchange it for the 10e or swap to the OnePlus.
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Try the 10e. It's the first phone that does pretty much what I've wanted a phone to do for a long time.
Bixby routines and bx actions make this phone amazing.
Can't wait to get a 1tb card when they release.
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Thank you all for your feedbacks. I might exchange it for the 10e or swap to the OnePlus.
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I sent back the S10 because of that miserable finger print lock and bought 10e instead. No complaints so far and I don't think that 10e compromises a lot when compared to S10/+. I have the 8/256 ver. which costs $300 less then I've had paid for the 8/512GB S10. Still, I have some concerns about Samsung abilities to maintain a steady stream of updates to make their phones a top performers(as the price tag suggests) vs the competition. I'm waiting right now for the “super night vision” as they call it, and I just compared some picks taken w/ OP6 wondering if Samsung can make it better as they should.
I know it's a new line, some bugs are to be expected, etc,etc, but the time is running, each month new phones are being fed into the busy, commercial pipeline.
I'm happy with my 10e for now and I'm hoping that Samsung won't get overwhelmed too much with spinning more and more phones out like the new A's and so on, and invest as much care to just released S10.
No, I wont be switching to OP7, maybe later in the year if the 7T gets ufs 3.0, I'll wait and see how will Samsung handle all the S10 needed improvements. The 10e is a great phone(*), I'm having a lot of fun w/ it.
(*) - conditionally or, the time will show.
These edge to edge screen is not good trend and is not practical solution..little bit bezel on sides are good to make phone easy to hold and provide strong grip and less slippery ..also it save u accidentally touching the screen..its funny how all android manufacturers blindly followed iphone x

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