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capacitive pens are almost useless!

At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?

yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.

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I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.

madmackem said:
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£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.

i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41

madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.

Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.

I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin

It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.

try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...

There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD

I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
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kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!

capacitive pens
I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!

anyone tried writing?

I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes

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sudermatt said:
I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes
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That would be nice and use it on one of the drawing/painting apps in the market.

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That would be nice and use it on one of the drawing/painting apps in the market.
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Just bought a Targus stylus today. It works well for misc. scribbles, but if you want to do serious note taking it doesn't work very well. Parts of letters are blanked out, almost like a pencil skipping across paper. I have tried several different notepad applications, all with roughly the same results. The pen and the NC screen might have a 50-50 split on blame. I've also found that the pen works better if held at close to a 90deg angle to the screen - which isn't very natural/comfortable for writing.
All of that being said, will I take the stylus back? Probably not, it works great for keyboard input and selecting buttons/aps/etc....
If you run across a great note taking app, let me know.

I am currently working on the same goal, I'd like to take notes in class with mine. I ordered a BoxWave Stylus and a Dagi stylus. The boxwave works ok, but it requires more pressure than what's comfortable, and you can't tell where it's going to write which ends in very crappy looking letters and numbers. The Dagi sounds promising, but I haven't received it yet. I'll post up results.

sudermatt said:
I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes
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Check this out in the accessories forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896838

http://www.appbrain.com/app/genial-writing/com.zenpie.genialwriting
Seems like a good enough app.. Don't have a stylus, I just use my finger. Although it's not great, needs some zoom adjustments.

S-pen features

Hi, sorry for a silly question, but ... 'm currently using a simple $5 stylus, how does S-pen differ? (considering they say it's the major point of Note8 vs S8+ and it comes at $90 higher price, at least in my country)
My assumptions:
* sharpness
* durability / build quality
* can be carried with the phone inside it
* integration (I think it launches some kind of note pad when ejected with turned off screen? not sure)
anything above incorrect, anything besides the above?
Thank you

There are software features to go along with the s-pen, my favorite being smart select. It can be used to select text and translate it as well as cutout a specific part of an image. I like to use that feature to make other pics.

The spen to me is way better the any 3rd party stylus could be.
1. The spen is always there. It slides into the phone and no new to look for it.
Its wireless touch. Which means you can hover over the screen and do different things. Like translate, mark highlight.
The tip is smaller then most 3rd party. Letting you see more of what your doing.
The screen off memo works great. I ise it all the time. Pull the spen out and the screen goes black. Write your note then out it back in and it save. If you need to see the note again or add to it. Tap it from the lock screen or pull the spen out again.
Has a button on the side which can controller things like earse or go back.
Its has touch. So if you apply more or pess pressure it can simulate that and drawings.
Of you can go to a store and play around with the spen.
To me its great

Pixel level precision, not very important for everyday task but once you want to do real work then there is no substitute.

I tried plastic and rubber tipped pens before: Out of 3 stylus I originally purchased, I lost 2 within few weeks and I know the last one is somewhere in the house, but no idea exactly where. And even when I had them, they were never with me, when I needed them. I use Note phones for most of the last 4 yrs and have not lost one s-pen, it's always with the phone and it will sound warning if pen left behind. Also the precision, functionality and extra programs that come along are unique to Note series. I use my phone 24/7 and s-pen about 50% of the time (it's like a mouse on my computer) and at this point I don't care much for any other phone outside of Note series. Besides, it just happens Note 8 is one the best phones money can buy right now. Now, I don't know if $90 is a big deal for you, it won't make any difference for me and I can save much more elsewhere. BTW if you're on a tight budget, maybe you should look at phones like Blu, you save much more than $90 and they almost as good. If it wasn't for s-pen I would probably look at them closely myself.

Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding

NoxArt said:
Thanks a lot everyone
Yea it probably isn't a big deal, just wanted to know what is it about when deciding
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What, the S-Pen isn't a big deal or what are you referring to?

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I don't know if $90 is a big deal for you
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sorry for confusion

Pen sensitivity not equal on the screen

I've noticed lastely that my pen sensitivity is different in the middle of the screen compared to the corners. I have to press down the pen harder to actually write something, while on the corners I can write normally.,
This was not always the case, the problem appeared just recently. The pen has bad sensitivity in the middle regardless if I try to write or just scroll on a webpage with it.
Restarting the phone didn't help.
I have a custom rom which I have not upgraded for months now (I'm waiting on Oreo roms).
The digitizer seems to work fine when I use my fingers.
I have uploaded a screenshot testing the pen. The corners are where I gently just swiped with the pen. As you can see there's nothing in the middle.
Could this be software (rom) issue, digitizer losing response or the pen itself? Any ideas?

Nebell said:
I've noticed lastely that my pen sensitivity is different in the middle of the screen compared to the corners. I have to press down the pen harder to actually write something, while on the corners I can write normally.,
This was not always the case, the problem appeared just recently. The pen has bad sensitivity in the middle regardless if I try to write or just scroll on a webpage with it.
Restarting the phone didn't help.
I have a custom rom which I have not upgraded for months now (I'm waiting on Oreo roms).
The digitizer seems to work fine when I use my fingers.
I have uploaded a screenshot testing the pen. The corners are where I gently just swiped with the pen. As you can see there's nothing in the middle.
Could this be software (rom) issue, digitizer losing response or the pen itself? Any ideas?
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None of the above. The pen has its own sensor behind the screen. It got damaged somehow. Time for a warranty replacement.

do you have a case on the phone? any magnetic closure will cause exactly this

WaxysDargle said:
do you have a case on the phone? any magnetic closure will cause exactly this
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Correct, I suspected it and removed the case and it solved the problem.
I recently bought https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zim...lloy-Metal-Cover-for-Samsung/32828780058.html
It's a fantastic case in every way, except that it makes Spen go crazy.
Will it cause any permanent damage or am I safe to continue using it?
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None of the above. The pen has its own sensor behind the screen. It got damaged somehow. Time for a warranty replacement.
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It was the magnet messing around, the problem disappeared when I removed the case. Good thing I don't need to RMA this, I have 2-step verification for everything haha.

Nebell said:
It was the magnet messing around, the problem disappeared when I removed the case. Good thing I don't need to RMA this, I have 2-step verification for everything haha.
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Glad it was easy!:good: I'm surprised a case would be made that interferes with the pen coils. That's annoying. Good thing it didn't permanently damage it. Having to RMA would have been lame. What case did you buy, I'm just curious.

Nebell said:
Correct, I suspected it and removed the case and it solved the problem.
I recently bought https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Zim...lloy-Metal-Cover-for-Samsung/32828780058.html
It's a fantastic case in every way, except that it makes Spen go crazy.
Will it cause any permanent damage or am I safe to continue using it?
It was the magnet messing around, the problem disappeared when I removed the case. Good thing I don't need to RMA this, I have 2-step verification for everything haha.
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I think it can damage over time. I remember similar reports on the Note 4 forum, but maybe something changed since then too.

It's a mystery to me, how some people still don't know that magnets and phones don't go along ?
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs

Gizmoe said:
Glad it was easy!:good: I'm surprised a case would be made that interferes with the pen coils. That's annoying. Good thing it didn't permanently damage it. Having to RMA would have been lame. What case did you buy, I'm just curious.
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I posted a link in my reply above yours

Dejan Sathanas said:
It's a mystery to me, how some people still don't know that magnets and phones don't go along ?
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs
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The phone works fine, it's only the Spen which is not working well.
Besides, there are already magnets in phone speakers.

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I think it can damage over time. I remember similar reports on the Note 4 forum, but maybe something changed since then too.
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I've read that magnets won't damage the phone, unless it's a really strong magnet like a MRI scanner. I won't be coming near any of those anytime soon.
The only thing that would be temporarily affected is the compass, which I don't use, and Spen in this case, which I use rarely.

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I posted a link in my reply above yours
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Doh! Just breezed right over that. That's a pretty crazy case.

just about every folding case on amazon has a magnet in it that will affect the spen usage.
just a warning to everyone.

Yep even a small magnet for the latch causes mine to curve away.
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Question Bad sensitivity spot issue

Hello,
I need some help from the xda community.
Just recently bought S21 Ultra, but I have an issue while using S pen with any application that has push sensitivity recognition just in one spot.
For example 'Infinite painter' or 'art flow' with sensitivity brush like 6B pencil.
I'm not completely sure that it is hardware (display) issue of this phone or all S21 Ultra have this issue.
I want to ask someone to try it either to confirm or deny. If it is the issue of this particular phone, I still have some time to change the device.
Thanks for your help!

Are you using a case or something with a magnetic lock system by any chance?

patensas said:
Are you using a case or something with a magnetic lock system by any chance?
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Forgot to mention. No, no case, nothing magnetic, no screen protector. The photo was taken while the phone was on my lap.

lethall1 said:
Forgot to mention. No, no case, nothing magnetic, no screen protector. The photo was taken while the phone was on my lap.
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Okay well in that case I would say a faulty digitizer, I guess you should get it replaced ( under warranty )
I've seen many users having a similar issue which was triggered by a magnetic case thats why I asked about it ;-)

patensas said:
Okay well in that case I would say a faulty digitizer, I guess you should get it replaced ( under warranty )
I've seen many users having a similar issue which was triggered by a magnetic case thats why I asked about it ;-)
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yeah, I've googled this issue, I know about magnets. But it looks like there is something underneath the screen that produces some magnetic interference. And it works with very big pressure... I was just wondering if everybody has this issue and just don't care\know, or it is just me. That's why I've asked somebody to test it.

lethall1 said:
yeah, I've googled this issue, I know about magnets. But it looks like there is something underneath the screen that produces some magnetic interference. And it works with very big pressure... I was just wondering if everybody has this issue and just don't care\know, or it is just me. That's why I've asked somebody to test it.
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Well mine works flawless and I would contact Samsung to get it fixed if I would have the issue

patensas said:
Well mine works flawless and I would contact Samsung to get it fixed if I would have the issue
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So, as I understand - you did try S-pen with any application that support sensitivity recognition in this area and it works? The general notepad or any other application that is just for writing works in this area of the screen. The problem is only with push-level recognition.

How do I enable the pressure sensitivity?
Here is what I achieved on my S21 Ultra (snapdragon, USA t-mobile variant) using an older s-pen taken from an older note. But when I used different pressure, the Infinite Painter app acted like the pen was either on or off, but no gradients in between. Like I dragged the pen across the screen and pushed harder and softer, but the result was just no ink when too soft, and pure black when hard enough or harder. Nothing in between. Is this because my s-pen is too old, or did I need to turn on a setting in the phone or the app? I selected the 6B pencil in the app.

KingFatty said:
How do I enable the pressure sensitivity?
Here is what I achieved on my S21 Ultra (snapdragon, USA t-mobile variant) using an older s-pen taken from an older note. But when I used different pressure, the Infinite Painter app acted like the pen was either on or off, but no gradients in between. Like I dragged the pen across the screen and pushed harder and softer, but the result was just no ink when too soft, and pure black when hard enough or harder. Nothing in between. Is this because my s-pen is too old, or did I need to turn on a setting in the phone or the app? I selected the 6B pencil in the app.
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Thank you very much! yeah, I didn't realize this. I bought S-pen with the phone and I guess it's a different one from old Note S-Pen

lethall1 said:
Hello,
I need some help from the xda community.
Just recently bought S21 Ultra, but I have an issue while using S pen with any application that has push sensitivity recognition just in one spot.
For example 'Infinite painter' or 'art flow' with sensitivity brush like 6B pencil.
I'm not completely sure that it is hardware (display) issue of this phone or all S21 Ultra have this issue.
I want to ask someone to try it either to confirm or deny. If it is the issue of this particular phone, I still have some time to change the device.
Thanks for your help!
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I don't have infinite painter or any other painting app, but I tried my S pen on Samsung notes and there doesn't seem to be any irregular spots on the screen. Both tracing and pressure work on all parts of the screen as far as I can tell. I used my Tab S7's included S-Pen.

enigmaamit said:
I don't have infinite painter or any other painting app, but I tried my S pen on Samsung notes and there doesn't seem to be any irregular spots on the screen. Both tracing and pressure work on all parts of the screen as far as I can tell. I used my Tab S7's included S-Pen.
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Thank you! Now I'm wondering if it is S-pen issue. Just noticed that if I hold the pen almost completely 90 degree to the screen, it just works fine on this spot.