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any 6p upgraders here

Currently using the 6p is it worth the upgrade to the 3t

i did the same.
camera felt like a bit of a downgrade, but that's just my opinion. not that 3t's camera is bad, it's quite capable too but i feel the lowlight shots are better handled by the 6p.
3t is much more manageable in the hand of course.
development scene is similar so no issues here.
i felt like 3t gave me much better battery life, in large part due to the screen i suppose. and the screen is quite good, you won't notice any difference even though it's fhd. real world performance is quite similar but it does not heat up like the 6p (my 6p used to heat up occassionally)

Just bought my 3t yesterday and i still have my Nexus 6p. The phone is awesome, it's really fast way much easier to hold in 1 hand. Performance is phenomenal compare to nexus 6p not by much but i can feel it Camera is more than ok for me, shoots great picture in good light condition. Im ok with the 1080p screen it saves a lot on battery. The best part for me have to be the 6gb of ram, seriously this thing fly's 10 apps in the background and they never reload not even once. Overall great phone specially for the price.
Sent from my OnePlus 3T

I did the same and never looked back. Best decision ever made.
I will only miss the Beta program and Latest update but it doesn't matter anymore. Resurrection Remix is the best daily driver ever for me.

Hello to you Guys
yes last week i've sold my 6p,now i'm a lucky owner of an 3T
glad to see some peoples from the 6p section
like @flar2 @franciscofranco and few other guys:good:
i'm glad to be here
cheers

Little update from myself
A new owner of a 3t and your correct this thing fly's.
Little things like camera isn't has good , slow motion is not on the 6p level but hopefully things can get better.
I'm running freedom with Franco and managed 6hrs sot yesterday
Dash charger is also phenomenal

I upgraded from 6p and it's definitely an improvement. Battery life if incredibly better and everything is a lot better apart from the camera... It felt a lot worse in that department... We have ois anyway and it's way better for videos, just doesn't capture all the details the 6p sensor can capture
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The 6P is an old ass phone...what 2 years old?
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nano303 said:
The 6P is an old ass phone...what 2 years old?
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Lol it still beats the 3t on the camera, stereo speakers, bigger screen and qhd resolution... Not bad for a 2 year old ass phone! I sure keeping mine.
Sent from my Nexus 6P

big samm said:
Lol it still beats the 3t on the camera, stereo speakers, bigger screen and qhd resolution... Not bad for a 2 year old ass phone! I sure keeping mine.
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A phone by Huawei has lasted you THIS long?...A miracle I say!!!
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I have around 15 phones so i don't use it full time. I always switch between devices.
Sent from my Nexus 6P

I upgraded from the 6P the day the 3T came out, and haven't looked back. Sold my 6P about a month ago. Way better with this phone, and think that OnePlus may be my go to phone company for awhile.

justibasa said:
I upgraded from the 6P the day the 3T came out, and haven't looked back. Sold my 6P about a month ago. Way better with this phone, and think that OnePlus may be my go to phone company for awhile.
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Same here but I sold the 6P a week after I got the OnePlus 3T. This is my first OnePlus and based on the phone and the price and the development, it definitely won't be my last.

Upgrade or not

Hi, I am currently on a n6 and I am thinking of getting the big pixel 2 when it comes out. Would you say this is a good idea? My biggest concern is I am on TMobile and I want my new phone to have 600mhz capabilities. Would you wait or get the pixel 2 even if it does not have 600mhz.
The thinks I an having a issue​ on is the camera on the front sucks, and I get long loading times for apps and freezing.
Thanks for the help

Konorsacks said:
Hi, I am currently on a n6 and I am thinking of getting the big pixel 2 when it comes out. Would you say this is a good idea? My biggest concern is I am on TMobile and I want my new phone to have 600mhz capabilities. Would you wait or get the pixel 2 even if it does not have 600mhz.
The thinks I an having a issue​ on is the camera on the front sucks, and I get long loading times for apps and freezing.
Thanks for the help
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I flashed Resurrection Remix ROM on my N6 and it's running flawlessly... There's not many phones that would replace the N6 other than the Nexus 6p and the ZTE Axon 7... I named those phones because of the dual front facing speakers! Also the camera being improved over the N6... The only phone that has my attention that doesn't have dual front facing speakers is the One Plus 3T! 6GB or RAM and it's price! Seeing that phone against the S8+ really has me considering saving my money even if I can get the S8+ at T-Mobile for around $30 a month added to my phone bill...
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DSDONE said:
.... There's not many phones that would replace the N6 other than the Nexus 6p and the ZTE Axon 7......
... The only phone that has my attention that doesn't have dual front facing speakers is the One Plus 3T!
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ZTE and Google makes it difficult to get root access.
OnePlus 5 is coming this summer...

NLBeev said:
ZTE and Google makes it difficult to get root access.
OnePlus 5 is coming this summer...
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With the exception of Nexus 6p, that phone is really easy to root! That's what had me stay with the N6 for so long! The development community is huge for these devices! For example, I'm on Android 7.1.1 with all the Pixel features I even have Google's assistant working! The only reason why I'm halfway considering upgrading is because of the camera... I have to use an app that has manual controls to get that focusing issue under wraps! Other than that, this phone is one of the best that I have owned! I like the size, I love the speed and stability, I really like the dual front facing speakers, that's hard to leave! It's so many positives about this device!
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Konorsacks said:
Hi, I am currently on a n6 and I am thinking of getting the big pixel 2 when it comes out. Would you say this is a good idea? My biggest concern is I am on TMobile and I want my new phone to have 600mhz capabilities. Would you wait or get the pixel 2 even if it does not have 600mhz.
The thinks I an having a issue​ on is the camera on the front sucks, and I get long loading times for apps and freezing.
Thanks for the help
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IMHO I don't think Pixel XL 2 will be worthy. We'll see when they will reveal the three devices. Maybe Taimen (Pixel XXL ?) will be a good choice, if they don't lock root access/bootloader or take out some features.
You already can improve your camera, many are quite better, but you'll loose many features too.
We had a thread about any worthy phone exchange, Axon 7 was the closest to N6 but not worthy at all. BL locked and camera aren't really better. Everything else is equal.
OP5 looks a good choice for now, heavy hardware configuration, good camera and community, but no front facing stereo speakers, no jack, smaller screen size and maybe definition too, maybe no wireless charging..
I cross my fingers that Taimen will follow N6 line, otherwise idk. I may try OP5 or even MiMix2, I don't really know, I'm a bit lost about that..

This is the next phone I want. I've been waiting for months for it to show up. It's a beast! My only fear is that it won't be rootable
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Pixel 2 Xl to Note 8

Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?

recepo1 said:
Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.

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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.
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The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?

recepo1 said:
The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?
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I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.

Jammol said:
I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.
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Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.

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Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.
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I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.

So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!

Jammol said:
I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.
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Yea i think i will stick w the Note 8 for now unless the pixel XL 2 drops vastly in price.

Screen
Camera
Battery
That's my decision order. Makes keeping the Note very easy

maverick1103 said:
So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!
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The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.

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The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.
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Thanks for your opinions, exactly what I was after!
I think you are spot on the Pixel has the advantage of the updates, however, Samsung Experience is much better than TouchWiz was as Samsung has brought it a lot of features into their software that Google didn't have, it's mainly Google copying Samsung these days I find!
I really like the 2x zoom the Note has, however, the portrait mode seems better on the Pixel, from what I've seen on real-life videos.
Choices, choices!!

I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.

I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.

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I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
I've read that about the Pixel 2 being wider making it uncomfortable when holding, which tbh my S8 is great because it's not very wide, so I was thinking that would be the same with the N8 so it's great to hear I was on right track. So even though it's got a bigger battery than the N8 would you say they are on par? My S8 can be great sometimes, however, it also can be crap! :-/
There's so many mixed reviews/opinions about the camera I don't know what to believe, so it's good to hear it's not all roses with the Pixel!
I'm still swaying towards the Note 8!

I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.

Misterxtc said:
I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.
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Yes, that's what I'm seeing across the net, too many issues out there for a premium device imo! It's a shame really as the Pixel 2 XL has so much potential! Thanks for the link, that's a great link to share!!
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I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.
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Yes I'm with you, an s8 with 6gb RAM and dual cameras would be an ideal phone imo!

recepo1 said:
Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...

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came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 xl i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, fot the pixel 2 XL, unfortunatly in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 Xl... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no, no ,no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is a very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note

Ariyax said:
came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note
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Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!

maverick1103 said:
Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!
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Yeah a lot of people don't realize what they lose when they go to the Google Experience. I had to make that very tough decision when we had to switch to Project Fi to save money in a financial crap time. I almost cried when I sold my Note 5!!! Then came Xfinity!??

Pixel 2

I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?

8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Definitely worth it. Only thing you're downgrading from is the screen resolution which you'll barely notice. Everything else will be an upgrade from the N6
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8.5mark said:
I'm very happy N6 owner but now I have option to buy Pixel 2 (not XL) for a good price. What do you think, is it worth it. I know it's smaller but Pixel 2 is much faster and camera should be much better than N6. Thoughts?
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Depends ... My bad price level starts at 500?

I got the Pixel 2 XL and am extremely happy I did, I have not regrets and would do it again, although I had to swallow twice on the price. Knowing I have a phone that will last 3-4 or more years made it easier. It was the biggest screen, dual front speakers, and not a proprietary manufacturer that loads tons of bloat. :good: Those were my priorities.
I was seriously considering OnePlus because of development support, until their latest (and continual) spyware escapade. No! No! No! - bad juju - once burned twice smart

Pixel 2xl issues. Should I get Pixel 4xl or wait for Pixel 4a?

My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?

frontier02 said:
My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?
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For $300 bux off I would go with the 4XL. I don't think the price will ever be lower. I bought two 4XL's at $200 off at the first price drop around Thanksgiving. I have had zero issues with either one. It's entirely a personal opinion, but I think it would be well worth the current $100 delta between the 4 and 4a.

frontier02 said:
My pixel 2xl has been great till last month. Camera stopped working and phone slowing down and sometimes unresponsive.
Should I get the Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL while they are on sale or wait for the Pixel 4a? I've heard so much bad about the Pixel 4s but want to hear from those that actually are using the phone as their daily.
Which would you upgrade to?
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Frontier02, at $300 off the Pixel 4XL it's a no brainer. I am on my second 4XL, the first one in black I got as soon as they launched, gave that to friend and got the white one next. It has been my daily driver just about every day since the fall. I also have an iPhone X max which I use once every blue moon just to see what ios is about (nothing exciting seems to happen) and I have an S20 Plus. I will pop the sim in that phone for a day at a time, it's a nice phone, great screen but the 4XL just fits me better, haptics, face unlock, etc.
You will love the 4XL, no doubt.

I upgraded to the 4xl from the 2xl on Friday. It's not a huge upgrade in speed or battery life in my opinion. Slightly better performace, about the same battery life. The 4xl does feel a lot nicer but that only really matters if you don't use a case. Still getting used to face unlock but it works good. I'm still happy with the purchase considering the $300 off. My choices are limited because I use Google Fi and non Fi phones don't do the network switching. My recommendation is flash the factory image on your 2xl. If it's still slow w/ a broken camera I'd buy the 4xl while it's on sale. I would not recommend the upgrade to someone with a working 2xl.

hawkswind1 said:
I upgraded to the 4xl from the 2xl on Friday. It's not a huge upgrade in speed or battery life in my opinion. Slightly better performace, about the same battery life. The 4xl does feel a lot nicer but that only really matters if you don't use a case. Still getting used to face unlock but it works good. I'm still happy with the purchase considering the $300 off. My choices are limited because I use Google Fi and non Fi phones don't do the network switching. My recommendation is flash the factory image on your 2xl. If it's still slow w/ a broken camera I'd buy the 4xl while it's on sale. I would not recommend the upgrade to someone with a working 2xl.
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I would try flashing the factory images but my company requires 2 factor authentication and to set it up you need a camera. So if I do that and the camera is still broken I can't log into to works computer till I get another phone with a camera that works. I would hate to have to waste the IT guys time twice sending the information to this phone again and not work then doing it again for new phone.

Just purchased the Pixel 4xl. Now eagerly waiting for it to get here, lol.

My Pixel 2XL has been working awesome but lately I feel like I have to keep my finger on the print reader longer or touch it several time for it to read. I just performed a factory reset and I think I'll reset all my prints as well, but I'm not happy with the print reader. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the 4 or wait for 4a. I'd rather keep my 2XL until it dies.
Also, I've been keeping my eye on the Motorola line of phones.... They seem to be coming out with some nice ones

Digital DJ said:
My Pixel 2XL has been working awesome but lately I feel like I have to keep my finger on the print reader longer or touch it several time for it to read. I just performed a factory reset and I think I'll reset all my prints as well, but I'm not happy with the print reader. I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the 4 or wait for 4a. I'd rather keep my 2XL until it dies.
Also, I've been keeping my eye on the Motorola line of phones.... They seem to be coming out with some nice ones
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I tried the Moto G Power and returned it within 3 days. The Moto was so slow that it was painful to use. I decided that I wanted to get the Pixel 4 xl from Best Buy at $300 off, but when I arrived at the store they had an open box Pixel 4 xl for $497. The associate let me check it out and it appeared to be brand new so I bought it instead of the new sealed Pixel. Check your local Best Buy for open box phones, you may luck out like I did. The Pixel 4 xl is worth the extra money over the Moto G Power for sure.

I have the 2XL as well and yesterday I ordered the 4XL. Originally I wanted to wait for the 4a, but since the 4 series has launched I have been drooling for the 4XL... Many have negative opinions about the 4s, but I seem to love every bit of it. The look, display, software, camera etc... I expect the DPD driver to turn up today with the phone so I have been sitting in the window since this morning waiting impatiently.... Neighbours probably think something went wrong with me....

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Just purchased the Pixel 4xl. Now eagerly waiting for it to get here, lol.
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I've made the same jump and had my 4 XL for a few days and it's a very nice upgrade without being a massive jump away from what I'm used to, the camera is great the phone is much nicer in the hand can't say to much about battery yet but I'm not disappointed with it

P4 user here. 90 hz is actually amazing. Cannot imagine to go back.

The 4a is a downgrade from the 4 XL, and with the 4 XL being $300 off, it's a no brainer to get the 4 XL now.

Also, don't forget channels such as Craig's List or OfferUp. You can find great deals there. I bought a brand-new 128-GB Pixel 4 XL on OfferUp for $400. Awesome deal. The best deals are from people who got something as a present or won it, because they have no financial stake in it; to them, whatever money they get is 'profit'. In fact, I buy all my electronics on Craig's List or OfferUp, oftentimes brand-new in box and otherwise like-new.
If you can get a good deal on the 4 XL now, I'd get it. It's a great phone providing a great user experience. Awesome camera, 90 Hz refresh is smooth, face unlock is super-fast and accurate (don't miss the 3 XL's fingerprint scanner at all). All around great phone that focuses on usability, not just specs.
As opposed to the Galaxy S10+, which has inferior cameras that overprocess and oversaturate photos and has blurring issues with moving subjects (because it's slow focusing), and with a terrible in-screen fingerprint scanner. Photos taken on my Pixel *always* turn out great, whereas it's hit or miss with the Galaxy S10+. I thought I'd really miss the ultrawide camera on the Galaxy S10+, but I don't, really. The consistently great shots on my Pixel 4 XL more than make up for that. Specs aren't everything---it's the total experience that matters, and in my view Pixel kills it here.
Face unlock on my Pixel 4 XL works flawlessly. It's so fast you sometimes forget it's actually working. It's not until you're out and about with a face mask on that you realize it's actually doing its job because it doesn't recognize you then (understandably, of course).
I haven't had any issues in terms of battery life. Yes, the Pixel 4 XL perhaps doesn't last as long in battery-drain-to-zero contests, but that's not terribly realistic in everyday use. I can easily make it through the day, and I'm always close enough to a charger (in the car, for example) to top up the phone if I have to. The supposed horrible battery life has never been an issue for me.
In short, get the Pixel 4 XL if you can find a good deal on it. You won't regret it!
--Ron

nr7777 said:
P4 user here. 90 hz is actually amazing. Cannot imagine to go back.
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Can never go back after 90hz