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Since everybody seems to upbeat about the Nexus 4, here some things that REALLY piss me off.
For reference, I am coming from a DEFY / CM9 and have at the same time here a new HTC One S / CM10. And then there would be a Nexus 7, and a Kindle Fire / CM10/SGT7.
Why on earth couldn't they have the normal buttons on the bottom, and instead needed to waste precious screen real estate ? I do understand that a 7 inch tablet needs that as it's turned between landscape and portrait. But for a phone ... After all there is space on the device, which is unused now ...
This little microSIM tray is nifty. Especially if you are at an airport, just bought the prepaid microSIM and try to put it in. You have the tool with you, right ?
The new and improved camera app stinks like heck. The device support ISO settings, different focus modi, red-eye removal ... the works. But the default application fails to expose ANY of that. I cannot even set the JPEG quality level ... EPIC fail.
Tried to use 720p video recording ? 22fps stuttering ...
Lockscreen widgets ... why on earth would I want to have that ? And why couldn't there just be a simply settings entry to disable that ? (yes, I know that there is now an app out there that gets rid of it ...)
The good old clock. Nice work. Tons of features. Way too many. Why split this over-engineered mess into "Alarm" and "Watch" and whatever ?
Battery drain ... Looks like a lot of the new features (some which I cannot uninstall per default) are sucking up processor time, like the "Mediaserver" (got the same apps/settings as on CM9/CM10, where this does not happen).
This new pulldown quick settings is nifty. Takes me now 2 clicks and one slide to toggle wireless ... much improved over the one-click toggle in CM9/CM10 (and HTC Sense, and TouchWhiz, and ...).
Overall I feel that 4.2 is a step back from 4.1, because every new feature that should make up 4.2 seems to be more in the way than anything else. The toy needs sooo urgently CM10 it's not even funny.
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
Why does... does... do you guys smell apples? I swear I think I do.
TheFiveDots said:
The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was [...] and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent
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What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
Instead of whinning about it why not try to do something about it.
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Yeah stop moaning and send it back.
Why keep a phone that "pisses" you off so much...
U mad bro?
Early adopter and complaining (very mad) that there are some updates needed............silly
Maybe u should sell it on eBay and make some money?
Or better......sell it to one of the great devs that are waiting for a device!!!!!!
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muspel said:
What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
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Yes. I have. Thanks for your assumptions though. Despite your "cringing", Apple's implementation of a dynamic "back button" at the top-left of nearly every iOS app is much more consistent and predictable.
On Android, sometimes the back button takes you back to the screen you were on previously on the same level, sometimes it takes you up a level, and sometimes it closes the app which is always surprising and annoying if you were not aware you were already at the root level. The home button closes an app, the back button doesn't need to. Google is even well aware of this unpredictably and has gone as far to draw up guidelines as to how it should be implemented, but many developers choose to ignore it.
Unpredictable behavior is bad UX design, plain and simple. Having a place in-app that takes you back and a hardware/software button that does the same is also redundant and unnecessary. Navigating an app should be natural and intuitive and all within the app, in my opinion. Hardware/software keys should be reserved for OS-level tasks like Home, Task Switching, etc.
I agree the software buttons are the best choice, but it would be nice to see them implemented in a much more dynamic and space-saving way.
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
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To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
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Yes, I was thinking that the merged tablet interface would be a cool idea for the "Nexus 4". With CM10/SGT7 on the KF you also get a nicer notification panel, which might be reasonable for a device of this size.
MonsieurJohnny said:
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
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Doesn't work. Paperclip is too big for that one (at least the 3 different ones I tried).
woody296 said:
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
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Actually I might do (or simply return it), but for different reasons than just the SW I was ranting about (and being disappointed for now). Of course many issues I cited will be fixed with a CM10.1 custom ROM in about 3 months ...
I disagree with the on screen buttons. I had the gs3 and it was terrible for accidentally catching the buttons. The bezel is there for a reason, Samsung put real buttons on the bezel and it's terrible. This is best of both worlds, if an watching a video I get the full screen as the buttons disappear, yet for everything else the screen is a great size.
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I feel sorry for everyone and everything in your life.
I disagree. 4.2 is a major improvement, much faster and smoother. All these new things will be improved upon in future updates.
It sounds to me like some people would never be happy no matter what they do.
As for the on screen buttons, i love them after coming from a device that had a push button for home. It would be great though to make them autohide as they do for video.
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Lol I love that all you fan boys bash the Op and make fun of him, but I hate to break it to you, everything in his post is true. The proper response is: "yes Google screwed some things up pretty badly here, but overall the good outweighs the bad."
Some of you people are worse than iSheep. No need to defend everything a company does. If you don't acknowledge the bad you basically give Google a license to never fix the problem it created because Google thinks you like those problems!
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I've been using it for a few days and I love the device . smoother than m gs3
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This guy doesn't own one, he's just seen videos, it is pretty obvious.
People just love complaining, I think this is he's first android phone, probably bought it because it was so cheap, try to buy an iPhone for that price you'll probably just about pick up a second hand 4s, I've never seen a phone so cheap with so many features, first phone with 2gb ram, even the iPhone 5 has only 1gb ram.
send your phone back and go and buy an iPhone 4s from ebay!!!
I installed the Jelly Bean update and immediately noticed the scrolling is different.
There's 2 ways to scroll, you can put your finger down and drag it where the page moves in sync with your finger, or you can flick it and let it coast up a bit.
If you want to scroll 1 page by dragging, you have to move your finger the entire height of the screen. If you scroll through hundreds of pages that becomes way too much repetitive work and hurts your hand.
Luckily there's some roller physics like the page is on wheels, so if you drag a little then let go it won't just stop, but will coast a little further then decelerate to a stop.
Then if you do a faster little flick, you can cause the page to scroll 1 whole height by moving your finger a much smaller distance. Then if you wanted to scroll hundreds of pages, instead of dragging the full height, you can use smaller flicks to move from page to page.
But in Jelly Bean, it didn't work that way. It felt like the page was heavier, with more friction, where when you let go from dragging it didn't coast much and slowly decelerate, it was very abrupt coming to a halt and didn't move beyond where you let go.
Then if I did a tiny flicking motion like I always do to change pages, it didn't work. It moved only a small amount, not a page, and it didn't coast where I could then keep flicking it to make it quickly scroll through.
It was like the friction was up, and in order to fling you needed to use more distance and speed, and then it would just go quickly really far. In ICS it was more sensitive, with more variation in between, where you had finer control over how far it rolled.
JB was like the wheels were all rusted and barely wanted to turn, so you're trying to push this shopping cart like it's a huge brick where you have to scoot it with each push and it's not rolling.
I tried a complete reset, I tried editing the build.prop properties for min and max fling velocity, and I tried the latest release from another country, but it was the same. So I flashed ICS back on, and immediately it was so much smoother and less effort to scroll through many pages.
Anyone else notice that? The global scroll physics in JB changed. It's not just some apps, it's everything, including the settings pages. I was surprised I didn't see anyone mentioning it, since just trying to use it for a short while cramped up my hand.
And this is called lagging, I assume. All note users of jb roms complaining about.
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Lag has to do with speed of response. I saw that too. Like when I pulled down the top menu drawer I could see the buttons at the top drawing in chunks, instead of instantly appearing and animating smoothly. Scrolling in general could be choppy, and the whole interface felt sluggish.
But this is different. This is settings in the physics. The Android views have friction settings (like getScrollFriction()), and I assumed Samsung modified them from how they were for ICS.
Besides the heavier friction and less sensitivity for flings, it'd also mess up when trying to scroll. Very often I'd just do a normal attempt to scroll down a webpage a little with a short movement down, and it'd instead go up! The opposite direction.
ICS doesn't do that, and everything is much faster feeling, more sensitive. Which was surprising because the main reason why I wanted to upgrade was for the "butter" thing where it was supposed to feel smoother.
The home screen seemed smooth though. Well, after it loaded fully. There was a delay, when it paused and waited for all the icons to preload, and then once it did it started moving again and was smooth. But before that it was chunky.
I was hoping someone knew if there was a configuration file to modify those global friction settings. I don't know if you can set friction in build.prop, the fling settings didn't seem to do much if anything. That wouldn't fix the lag, but it'd be better if the physics were the same as ICS.
That's the first thing I noticed when I upgraded from ICS to JB.
It felt like flingy. It felt much more anchored.
I think it's 'project butter'.
Hey everyone,
due to the high resolution and comparably large screen estate I would like to use a lower screen density of around 410dpi, instead of the stock 480. :fingers-crossed:
One example:
On my Galaxy Nexus I was used to having a 24dpi high navigation bar at the bottom of the screen.
It was small but still I was able to hit the buttons accurately.
Same goes for the small keys of my keyboard of choice, Swiftkey.
Since I am on the HTC One and I flashed a Custom ROM, which I am running on 410dpi and wanted that stock android navigation bar at the bottom even at 48dpi (which is like 1.7x the height of the one I was using on my Galaxy Nexus) I have trouble hitting the buttons.
This is very disappointing.
It feels like the Touch layer of the HTC One is not that accurate
Is it just me or is this a known problem?
(Couldn't find anything via search, though)
Any ideas what to do about it?
All the best and thanks in advance :good:
I don't see this at 360dpi which is what I have mine at, but I do see it at 240, but everything then is silly in size.
Have you enabled the show touches in dev options and checked where its actually pressing?
Always keep forgetting about that! Thanks!
That is pretty weird...the touch inputs seem to be quite accurate, though. (Debugging Tool)
But it doesn't recognize them in something like "the upper half of the navigation bar" :/
I quickly shot a Video (sorry not the best focus point )
One can clearly see that I am hitting the home button several times, but the input doesn't get recognized.
That is really really weird and unsatisfactory :/
I gave it a shot for you... It seems to work fine on 36dp and above. 30 and 24 exhibit the same behavior as your video.
FYI: I'm running SlimROM at 361dpi. That was the default for me when I went from ARHD 10.2 to Slim b6 and it has stuck with me since then. I tried to get the same look in RootBox but it didn't work the same, so I went back to SlimROM b6.8, and am now on SlimROM b7.
Thanks :good:
I am starting to believe that this is might be caused by the Logo-Button-Hack.
If you peek closely from the side under the tip of your finger touching the button and starting from the very bottom of the glass area there is just no response at all on the logo. It's like the first pixel of the screen are allocated to the logo-button and not the area below the screen.
Maybe an area of lets say 10-15 pixels height is used for that and therefore not any longer available for the nav bar.
Which doesn't really matter if you are hitting the comparably huge app-icons in the drawer otherwise
1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
jemeljsh said:
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
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The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.
I'm considering picking one of these up (refurb) and I've never had a phone with notch or with cameras in the screen area. Front camera has been in the bezel area right above the screen. It looks like the two front cameras on this device are essentially embedded into the screen. Does that mean there is less display areas for notification icons or does the device allow for two rows of notification icons + time/battery display up top?
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I'm considering picking one of these up (refurb) and I've never had a phone with notch or with cameras in the screen area. Front camera has been in the bezel area right above the screen. It looks like the two front cameras on this device are essentially embedded into the screen. Does that mean there is less display areas for notification icons or does the device allow for two rows of notification icons + time/battery display up top?
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It may seen that it would be e problem, i've owned mine for about 4 months bow and its not an issue. The notification bar is thin but still very readable. If you want to customize the notification panel further for space, you'll be able to download (GoodLock and NiceLock depending on your region) to help with that.
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It may seen that it would be e problem, i've owned mine for about 4 months bow and its not an issue. The notification bar is thin but still very readable. If you want to customize the notification panel further for space, you'll be able to download (GoodLock and NiceLock depending on your region) to help with that.
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I took a peak at the descriptions of those apps and screen shots and can GoodLock actually modify the top notification status bar on top? I didn't think any app could control the look of that? Those apps seems to have quite a bit of overlap with built-in functions of latest Android 10 + One UI 2.x ? Still might give them a whirl.
SO I've had my S10 5G for about a week now. Right away, I tried the virtual bezel setting that basically black out the top of the screen next to the cameras. I didn't like the look. On my LG V30 the camera was in the bezel and the bezel was very thin so the screen display still appeared to take up most of the glass. With this setting on the Samsung, it's too heavy handed, blacks out a little too much height off the top of the screen so it looks odd with a very tall black bezel on top.
So far, I don't think the reduced space has caused my notification icon bar up top to get overloaded. What I ended up doing though was selecting a wallpaper that the top right corner is dark or almost black. It effectively "hides the cameras" while utilizing the full screen. Of course with apps open that aren't black on top, you see the large camera cutout but it's not really that distracting/terrible looking.
I like that Samsung got a little smarter on the S20 and has a very small single camera cutout in the middle of the screen now. Looks MUCH better. But still, it's only looks. Some may prefer having the dual front cameras, which I think is a nice trade off to having the larger camera cutout on the side instead of the a small single camera in the middle.