Can I return a Knox stuff by flashing stock firmware trough Odin. Just simple question
No
Nope. Knox is GONE.
angelspid said:
Can I return a Knox stuff by flashing stock firmware trough Odin. Just simple question
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Depending on where you live you`re warranty is gone, except for in the EU where rooting doesn`t void your warrantly automaticaly.
Good bye KNOX :crying: .
Thank you for the quick answer !
Knox sux's! That's why I trip it ASAP
galaxys said:
Knox sux's! That's why I trip it ASAP
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It doesn't suck if you like Samsung Pay or Pass or Secure Folder.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
It doesn't suck if you like Samsung Pay or Pass or Secure Folder.
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That's true for some. But I use Magisk hide for Google Pay, etc.... Never signed into Samsung for any more bloat
galaxys said:
That's true for some. But I use Magisk hide for Google Pay, etc.... Never signed into Samsung for any more bloat
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You don't know what you're missing. Samsung Pay is great than Google Pay any day of the week! I've used both on Samsung and Google Pixel devices.
I LOVE walking up to a card reader that doesn't accept NFC payments and seeing the look on their face when I'm still able to pay with my phone or watch. I always hear, "But Apple Pay doesn't work here!" You're right. It doesn't. LOL!
Since Knox operates as a fuse (possibly/likely in hardware), no reset is possible. Or at least, no reset method has been found after years of high bounties and work by some of the best talent on the planet.
There was a promising thread that implied the Knox counter location in memory was known so that a kernel patch could overwrite with 0x0, but if it were that easy, certainly the fix would have been widely applied by now.
Since 0x1 Knox only matters to those few Samsung apps, I'm just planning to uninstall them and be happy.
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Silly Question, How do I root the T-Mobile Note 4 without Tripping Knox? Also, is there anyway to also remove Knox once and for all?
I plan to stick with the stock ROM compiled by T-Mobile. Just want Root Access for the obvious versatility. Thanks
Can't that I know of
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & BAD ASS GEAR S
Pretty sure you can't. But that shouldn't matter since T-Mobile tends to take back phones that have been tripped
A quote from effortless:
Actually, there were other methods after root de la vega. I have a method here for the Note 3 that uses towelroot and an older vulnerable kernel. You simply flash the older kernel in odin, use towelroot, then flash the new current kernel back and you're rooted.
Don't think of Knox being tripped as a loss of warranty- think of it as a loss of Knox! Knox is an app on your phone that will no longer work (ever!) if you trip Knox. Research Knox and make sure you have no need for it before you decide to get rid of that functionality. If you work at a company that lets you use your own phone to receive work e-mail etc and would like to keep apps and e-mail on a separate secure container "work side" of your phone (Knox) then don't trip Knox. If you don't care about Knox, trip it and forget it.
It's just not fair to people to leave this valuable piece of information out when telling them to root or in the how-to root threads. They can't revert after the case and some don't realize they need it until they present their phones to their IT staff at work and are told their phone's Knox integrity has been compromised -meaning it's no longer able to be used for that purpose (Knox warranty 0x1). Also, if you just want a secure container for some personal apps and pics etc, you can use that Knox container for that without actually using any work information.
Here's a quick video to demonstrate Knox 2.0s use.
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Isn't that for the note 3. I definitely would not try that for this phone.
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Thank you all for the responses. It took me a while to appreciate the benefits of rooting, probably because I'm using the device more now on the go and definitely need ad-blocking features over LTE, Better Battery Consumption, WiFi tethering, and much more.
You don't.
So who is waiting to root the S6 to see if Samsung Pay requires a Non-Tripped KNOX?
I am seriously on the fence about it, in my opinion it is about a 50% chance it will be required, and even then will I really use it all the time?
On the other hand I love root and the apps I have that require it.
What are your thoughts, Waiting or no?
*We are assuming that any root methods will trip KNOX. Even if root is achieved without tripping KNOX a ROM requiring a recovery WILL trip it anyways*
I'm in the same boat.. So much so that I'm debating if I want to keep this device. I enjoy custom roms way too much. Coming from a Lg G2 running 5.0.2 AICP rom, it was really great.
More worried that with Tmobile and JUMP if I ever need to get a replacement device, that KNOX will cause issues when they receive my device. With my G2, i returned it but after I reverted to stock.
This is the first time I'm actually afraid to root and install custom recovery. I only have 6 days to decide if I want to keep this before i have to send in my g2 for jump
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I'm in the same boat.. So much so that I'm debating if I want to keep this device. I enjoy custom roms way too much. Coming from a Lg G2 running 5.0.2 AICP rom, it was really great.
More worried that with Tmobile and JUMP if I ever need to get a replacement device, that KNOX will cause issues when they receive my device. With my G2, i returned it but after I reverted to stock.
This is the first time I'm actually afraid to root and install custom recovery. I only have 6 days to decide if I want to keep this before i have to send in my g2 for jump
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Two things to keep in mind:
T-Mobile doesnt care about JUMP even in warranty situations. Revert it back to stock and go on your merry way. Only Samsung cares and under JUMP you have warranty care as well, so T-Mo not Samsung takes care of the claims/replacement device
AOSP Roms may not come to the S6 for a while, at least not stable. The Exynos processor is notorious for poor support from AOSP roms like AICP, CM, SLiM and others.. Just a heads up
I will put this right here the next big root is here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6/help/cf-auto-root-tmo-s6-t3069386
I'm aware Aosp isnt stable, which is fine. I'm ok with at least a stock base thats been modded. Custom kernal would be great to make the phone more energy efficient
I'll give things some time and see what happen
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I will put this right here the next big root is here.
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We know root is available, it's been available since before the pre-order even went live. It still trips Knox though, and that's the discussion.
Personally, I'm waiting until either Knox can be bypassed, or we get confirmation that Samsung Pay won't need it. Somehow I doubt either will happen, but I'm willing to wait a while to find out.
tlxxxsracer: Don't count on custom kernels, but that goes without saying. A modified base would be nice, AOSP would be wonderful but unrealistic. Honestly at this point, the only reason I want root is Titanium Backup, an ad blocker and putting the Nexus dialer/contacts on the phone. Touchwiz dialer is simply awful.
Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Root without a hitch?
Brava27 said:
Root without a hitch?
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Rooted here without a hitch.
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Don't care. Rooted. Can't stand ads and need tethering (AT&T corporate account). But I would root just to block the ads. I accept the consequences and if I can't use Samsung pay, I'll simply use Google wallet, which will work everywhere Apple Pay is accepted anyway.
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Ritual82 said:
Rooted here without a hitch.
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I assume there isn't a recovery yet
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I assume there isn't a recovery yet
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Correct, hopefully soon.
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We know root is available, it's been available since before the pre-order even went live. It still trips Knox though, and that's the discussion.
Personally, I'm waiting until either Knox can be bypassed, or we get confirmation that Samsung Pay won't need it. Somehow I doubt either will happen, but I'm willing to wait a while to find out.
tlxxxsracer: Don't count on custom kernels, but that goes without saying. A modified base would be nice, AOSP would be wonderful but unrealistic. Honestly at this point, the only reason I want root is Titanium Backup, an ad blocker and putting the Nexus dialer/contacts on the phone. Touchwiz dialer is simply awful.
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How do you put the nexus dialer/contacts on the phone?? You are running a TouchWiz based ROM so I imagine it won't just be that easy... I been trying to get it to work on my S5 but to no avail lol -__-
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How do you put the nexus dialer/contacts on the phone?? You are running a TouchWiz based ROM so I imagine it won't just be that easy... I been trying to get it to work on my S5 but to no avail lol -__-
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You need to have root, and then install it as a system app.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/12/26/install-google-dialer
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You need to have root, and then install it as a system app.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/12/26/install-google-dialer
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That is the KitKat one though I believe, any chance you have a link to get the Lollipop version one working?
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No issues.
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That is the KitKat one though I believe, any chance you have a link to get the Lollipop version one working?
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Not personally, but it shouldn't be too hard to apply. Just an old article from before Lollipop.
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Not personally, but it shouldn't be too hard to apply. Just an old article from before Lollipop.
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So you have an S6 with this working on it? Care to share a screenie?
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So you have an S6 with this working on it? Care to share a screenie?
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Uhhhh... no? Like I said, I'm waiting on root.
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Uhhhh... no? Like I said, I'm waiting on root.
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S6 already has root.... Only phones that have shipped are T-Mo and they are the only one's with root anyway..
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S6 already has root.... Only phones that have shipped are T-Mo and they are the only one's with root anyway..
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Joe, reread my posts. I am choosing NOT TO ROOT, because I'm holding off for an option that either doesn't trip knox, or confirmation that tripping knox doesn't void Samsung Pay. Stated that in my first post.
I happen to have bought the at&t s6 which couldn't work in my environ. I gave it to a fool who rooted some way so I could use a different carrier. Then I tried to activate my knox and the phone went into a boot loop. I had to do a reset. After several in depth online analysis.i knew I was f***ed. My problem is this..
1. How do I get my knox to work again
2. How do i install the new android m. If it's an ota or custom.
Please note am a newbie but I understand a bit of the terminologies. Keep it really straight forward. Thank you all.
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1. You don't.
2. No one knows just yet...
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I happen to have bought the at&t s6 which couldn't work in my environ. I gave it to a fool who rooted some way so I could use a different carrier. Then I tried to activate my knox and the phone went into a boot loop. I had to do a reset. After several in depth online analysis.i knew I was f***ed. My problem is this..
1. How do I get my knox to work again
2. How do i install the new android m. If it's an ota or custom.
Please note am a newbie but I understand a bit of the terminologies. Keep it really straight forward. Thank you all.
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Are you sure your Knox bit is tripped? It sounds like you are now on a custom ROM. It's my understanding that Knox will not work on custom roms (I haven't personally tried it) even though the Knox warranty bit is still 0x0. Get the "phone info Samsung" app on the play store to check Knox status.
If your Knox bit is tripped (not 0x0) it is tripped permanently. If not, flash a stock ROM in Odin to use Knox again. Of course it sounds like you need a custom ROM to use the phone, so that may not help you.
Samsung and other evil company's are retard support one plus 2 to set the world free from slavery i will never buy Samsung or apple for the rest of life
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Samsung and other evil company's are retard support one plus 2 to set the world free from slavery i will never buy Samsung or apple for the rest of life
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No thanks, to many compromises. I use NFC a lot, and quick charging.
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So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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So as we all know if you root your device it troops knox which than breaks samsung pay. I know ir was done on the s6. I b was wondering if there is any news about rooting note5 n able to keep samsung pay?.
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Really hoping for this too. I'm on verizon so no chance of root unless there's a way to do it without tripping KNOX.
Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.
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Any android phone without root is a battery drainer.
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That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
My Samsung Tablet non rooted says it currently has 18 days left on the battery. It has been on for 3 days. I use it for games at night. Not a phone but ehh close enough
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That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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Fully agree!!!
Go for package disabler pro and you can turn off almost any process on your puppy...
garyd9 said:
That has got to be the silliest (and most incorrect) thing I've seen posted on XDA in 9 years. Oh, wait.. no.. there was something sillier. I remember when someone suggested that Samsung was going to be developer-friendly.
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I'm speaking from experience. Of course, everyone has its own opinion.
I think we are distracted from the topic.
i am also a note 5 user, and up until now, i haven't rooted it. i don't know why i don't carry that enthusiasm when i got the phone, unlike when i owned the Note 3 and note 4. maybe because my note 5 is already buttery smooth, or i am afraid to root it now since i can't find any safer way to root it, or maybe i am just being confused of the way we root it now. anyhow, when i was using the note 3, i also have the problem with s-health not working when i rooted note 3. so what i did was, i rooted the damn phone anyway, installed system app mover, backed up s-health applications, then move it off to system app to user application. rebooted the phone and open s-health, well what do you know? it worked. but i don't tried this on samsung pay since i don't have it on my phone, because of our region. anyway, try that solution maybe it will work for you, and if it worked, just keep in my mind that there will be no guarantee about your samsung pay security.
good luck.
Is there a way to get temporary root so it then won't trip knox?
I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
Proceed carefully.
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I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.
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I don't mean to be rude (it happens naturally without any effort whatsoever), but what is the purpose of this post? To warn people against rooting, or to suggest that it's possible to root without tripping KNOX?
If the former, that's pretty much a given (and the community has found ways around many of those issues.) If the latter, your post could be considered by many to be a troll without giving real information.
I'd donate for a root on my note 5 that doesnt trip knox.
Yeah I'll pay for this to I'll set down $30 to whoever can get this and prove it and what not.
plz
Get me a root that doesent trip knox coz my name...
Has this been done yet?
WARNING: YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR DATA SO MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP ANY IMPORTANT FILES
I found a way to root without tripping Knox. Well, kinda. Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp, and use twrp to wipe all partitions (except the recovery partition of course), and then re-install the stock files with Odin and flash the super su binary with TWRP BEFORE BOOTING INTO ANDROID the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0 no one try this just yet, but I'm 90% sure that's how I did it before. Once I get home from vacation I'll double check and write up a more detailed guide. :good:
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... Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp...
... the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0
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KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
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KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
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I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
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I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
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Sure. Okay.
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Sure. Okay.
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Whether or not it logically should work doesn't really matter, all that matters is it has worked for me in the past. Maybe it was just a random occurrence, but as soon as I have the chance I'll see if I can recreate the results
My Note 9 has unfortunately developed a hardware fault, and I enquired today and in theory it's still within the warranty period. Though, having rooted and installed a custom ROM, knox is now tripped, is there anyway to hide this fact for the return?
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My Note 9 has unfortunately developed a hardware fault, and I enquired today and in theory it's still within the warranty period. Though, having rooted and installed a custom ROM, knox is now tripped, is there anyway to hide this fact for the return?
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nope. just flash the factory firmware and hope for the best. they probably wont even check
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nope. just flash the factory firmware and hope for the best. they probably wont even check
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Ah, thought that might be my only option haha
Oh well, I'm sure like you said they won't check, thanks!
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Ah, thought that might be my only option haha
Oh well, I'm sure like you said they won't check, thanks!
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Exactly. good luch mate! Cheers!
I don't know the law where you live, but even if they do check the Knox bit, I'm quite sure it's their responsibility to prove the hardware fault resulted from modified firmware.