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Note 8??

What do you want from the Note 8?
for me I need :
- battery that lasts a total of 7 hours of SOT At least at MAX Brightness (4000+ Mah battery)
I don't care if its Thicker.
- More S Pen Features
- Dual Camera Setup
- Preferably 6 GB Of Ram for Long Use.
- Less Smaller Edgey Design PLS Because The Edge Design is Pointless it distorts the screen viewing experience.

6GB of RAM is overkill unless you are running an emulator or virtual machine on your phone. I'm still not convinced that even games are making the optimal use of or existing 4GB of RAM. I'd prefer a better gaming graphics processor for console like quality

1)I will prefer flat screen like Note 5 (5.7' is comfortable for me But with 6.2' I can manage) instead of S8/S8+/Note7 As There are no actual benefits rather than look But more risky if device fails down accidentally
2)More Powerful Snapdragon Chipset i expect this time from Sammy (Unfortunately in my country samsung releases exynos variants/ Also on newer devices especially for flagships samsung prefer to use home exynos chipset) With better optimisation of cores available
3)Camera should be more crispy, Yup Samsung's camera is improving from S7/S7E But still on this price tag of 800-900$ Everyone will expect better camera with dual pixel camera/better camera sensor/aperture should be optimum/S8+ shooting modes should be available
4)Software features on S8 like bixby vision/bixby assistant/face or fingerprint gestures should be implemented on Note8 too With hardware features like Iris Scanner And Yup fingerprint sensor location should be front mounted Not sure about AOD but if battery is like 4000mAh then ok with AOD (S-Note Pin To AOD feature like Note 7 Should keep as like)
5)Design should not be oriented to S8( So that it should not look like S8 With S-Pen), Design should be flat,sleek,handy and premium
6)Display should be 4k infinity which is used in S8 (Images and Video quality on Infinity display is great by S8 user's reviews) But if it fails to optimise on Note8 regarding power/battery management (If different CPU is used than S8 as on S8 battery management and feedback is great like 7-8hrs of SOT with FHD resolution/AOD/Advanced Features On/Without PowerSaving Mode Enabled) then QHD or UHD Amoled displays are to be accepted also

Thinking of moving from note 8 to p20 pro

I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....

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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.

camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away

vandal4e said:
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it

esiemi said:
had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.

Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.

Jonathan-H said:
I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery

What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/horrible-touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567
It's this

I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups

I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?

Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..

You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.

i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally

Note 9 The Best

It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.

meesagandu said:
It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.
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Yea it is amazing except charging speed not great at all
And camera at night not great like my old p20 pro
But overall note 9 is impressive

For the price I disagree. It's a nice phone my first note but I should have waited for the s10. I only got it for the bogo deal which is actually a rip off with Verizon since I have the old unlimited plan. End up paying 55 a month for the second phone and will end up paying it off soon cuz that will end up costing more if I don't. The 5G S10 looks enticing and might end up upgrading lol
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meesagandu said:
It almost 2019 and we have seen a lot of devices coming out. After looking at all the devices I think I have made the right choice of buying Note 9. I mean everything is amazing in this device build quality, display, performance, and battery its a combination of those in a perfect way.
The Smartphone of the Year is Note 9.
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Agreed. With the new s10 not having a headphone jack, I don't think I'll be interested in it at all.

Yes P20 pro is better
rowihel2012 said:
Yea it is amazing except charging speed not great at all
And camera at night not great like my old p20 pro
But overall note 9 is impressive
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Yes I agree that P20 pro has better camera compare to Note9.
But P20 pro is a device which is mainly designed for camera

meesagandu said:
Yes I agree that P20 pro has better camera compare to Note9.
But P20 pro is a device which is mainly designed for camera
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Yep, also I cannot do a notch screen on my phone. I hate it. I had an LG V10 a while back and that was as far as I was willing to go with a non rectangular screen. I actually really liked the build of that phone.

note 9 is one of these devices that will never happen again in a long time period. but SAMSUNG is at that point where u expect everything so no one appreciate anything. and this is coming from a note9 / oneplus 6 red user and i love using both, so not a fanboy here
software wise, they talk about vanilla android experience with pixels or half a second faster with oneplus or iphones, in the same time i cant see any of these phones have multi window support (i mean real multitasking not 2 apps opened in the same time) for apps ! none have 2 apps in 2 windows running at the same time, none can run 2 Bluetooth devices out of the box, none have the magnificent gallery or edge shortcuts or other samsung addons.
also for the camera:
one of the best hands down, and yes huawei and pixel are better for photos "on auto" but note9 has 4k 60 fps, better sound recording, and unmatched multiple super slow motion recording
now screen wise, hands down the best. design, is awesome notch-less design, battery is great, headphone jack, ip68, dual speakers, DEX and VR and 360 cam and other accessories.
oh and lately i read and hear oh huawei or oneplus is so generous with in box accessories! i mean really ? they have usb2 to usb c dongle or OTG dongle or AKG headphones or quality case u can actually use in the box ??
but again, samsung is doing this for a long time, no one expect less.

I actually came from a pixel 3xl. Lovely phone, good battery and the camera was just insane.
Swapped for my note 9, and I don't regret it at all. It's better phone, the battery is ridiculous - on 4hr sot at 50% - and it's just fun to use without being boring. The camera is good but just no way near the pixel, however the Bluetooth pen and taking photos from afar makes up for it with my daughter!

Saw this yesterday:
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-the-best-displays-924708/

Nice share
galaxys said:
Saw this yesterday:
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-the-best-displays-924708/
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Android authority after testing a lot of devices even they agree that Note 9 has the best Display.
Note 9 the best

I'm so happy I picked up s note 9. I had reservations because the note 10 but now seeing s10 Is going with camera hole in the display that's off the table for me until they can hide it. Imagine if TVs had that hahaha

I just got a Note 9. The first Note I had since original Note. I have used all the Nexus/Pixel devices through the years as my daily driver. I did try a S3 for awhile but couldn't get over all the bloatware. After using the Nexus 6P for 2 years I switched to the Pixel XL 2. What a nightmare that phone was. Between the hardware issues and new bugs with each update I got rid of it for a S9+ What a nice peice of hardware. A couple of weeks ago I had a choice between Pixel XL 3 or iPhone Xs Max. I went with the Max. Couldn't get use to iOS and the Max made me want a bigger screen so I ended up with the Note 9.
What a terrific device. I love Ubuntu on Dex and found a few features of the S Pen to be handy too.
I no longer care about fast buggy updates and quality means everything to me now. I'm

My problems with more 9 are
Camera is average
Battery is not great at night and shutter speed is bad
Fast charging is a joke
Sound form headphone Jack is ugly besides my old nex s

vodovodo said:
note 9 is one of these devices that will never happen again in a long time period. But samsung is at that point where u expect everything so no one appreciate anything. And this is coming from a note9 / oneplus 6 red user and i love using both, so not a fanboy here
software wise, they talk about vanilla android experience with pixels or half a second faster with oneplus or iphones, in the same time i cant see any of these phones have multi window support (i mean real multitasking not 2 apps opened in the same time) for apps ! None have 2 apps in 2 windows running at the same time, none can run 2 bluetooth devices out of the box, none have the magnificent gallery or edge shortcuts or other samsung addons.
Also for the camera:
One of the best hands down, and yes huawei and pixel are better for photos "on auto" but note9 has 4k 60 fps, better sound recording, and unmatched multiple super slow motion recording
now screen wise, hands down the best. Design, is awesome notch-less design, battery is great, headphone jack, ip68, dual speakers, dex and vr and 360 cam and other accessories.
Oh and lately i read and hear oh huawei or oneplus is so generous with in box accessories! I mean really ? They have usb2 to usb c dongle or otg dongle or akg headphones or quality case u can actually use in the box ??
But again, samsung is doing this for a long time, no one expect less.
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boom!
Note 9

In my opinion, the Note series has always been the best phone on the market for the given period.

I'm new to this Note 9 960f/DS and it is a Beauty and Beast! Luv it...

yungzoe0624 said:
For the price I disagree. It's a nice phone my first note but I should have waited for the s10.
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The same can be said for just about every single phone and its eventual successor.
The Note 9 is the last of its breed - big screen, big battery, no notch, headphone jack, good camera.

sstanton86 said:
I actually came from a pixel 3xl. Lovely phone, good battery and the camera was just insane.
Swapped for my note 9, and I don't regret it at all. It's better phone, the battery is ridiculous - on 4hr sot at 50% - and it's just fun to use without being boring. The camera is good but just no way near the pixel, however the Bluetooth pen and taking photos from afar makes up for it with my daughter!
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It means that Note 9 is a device which you love the most..
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Sisyphus306 said:
The same can be said for just about every single phone and its eventual successor.
The Note 9 is the last of its breed - big screen, big battery, no notch, headphone jack, good camera.
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Yes If you compare the device with the price then there will be only a few devices which can be sold. Even if you do the comparison also Note 9 is best at that price in my point.

rowihel2012 said:
My problems with more 9 are
Camera is average
Battery is not great at night and shutter speed is bad
Fast charging is a joke
Sound form headphone Jack is ugly besides my old nex s
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I don't think the Note9 camera is AVERAGE. I would say that the camera captures decent pictures with high quality.
And the battery life is good it lasts a day.
But I agree that sound quality is not up to the mark.

And it is here the official Android authority report says that the Best readers choice award and the best Phone of the year is the Note 9. Once again we proved that Note 9 is Best.
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-readers-choice-award-929541/

Access broken screen Galaxy with S Pen; also comparison w/ new Huawei Mate 20 Pro

Video: https://youtu.be/6O8aRLs_oYg
I just wanted to share this handy info I found out by trying. My Note 9 screen got shattered, and I wanted to access my files from PC but could not use the touch screen, as it barely reacted to my finger touches, and glitched all over. Then I remembered that finger and S Pen have separate ways of interacting with the screen (that is why art programs can be set to "pen mode" and not get accidental drawing by the hand touching the screen, for instance). With the S Pen, I could still use my phone (within limits of broken screen visibility) and ultimately was able to go through the process of recovering my files!
__MATE 20 PRO COMPARISON:__
On a side note, I decided to try Mate 20 Pro instead. In my opinion, it is not all that it is hyped to be. It is not bad, but, I had it for some days now and can say this:
real life battery life on Note 9 was equal if not marginally better, for my personal usage anyways. Feels like huawei "cheats" in percentage shown. But, it is about same in the end. 7, 8 hours sot, 1 charge to around 95% every afternoon.
Camera on Mate 20 pro is not that stellar. I was not blown away. For real life usage it is about same, and low light has better color accuracy but images are noisier (I use pro mode a lot). 40mp is not really crystal clear. Personal rating for end results is same level I had with Note 9.
multi super slow motion on Note 9, only single on Mate 20 Pro.
4k 60fps video on Note 9, vs 30fps on Mate 20 Pro.
Mate 20 pro other camera modes are really nice / fun. Samsung camera modes are more basic.
Macro photos on Mate 20 Pro are better, and you can get closer to subject. As I love taking macro photos this was a welcome surprise.
Screen is really nice, same level as Note 9.
Bluetooth earphones (Jabra Elite 65t) get same signal strength (not awesome). And slightly MORE lag unfortunately.
tweaked UI and general device and apps settings a lot as per usual, so overall the software / system experience is 99% equal.
Speakers are worse.
no headphone jack is annoying as with note 9 sometimes I unplugged earphoned from Nintendo Switch and plugged them on Note 9 temporarily while switching trains.
Form factor slightly smaller is good. Does not feel as premium as Note 9 but on the other hand, it's easier to handle.
Fast charging is awesone.
I miss drawing with S Pen.
Notch does not bother me, I thought I'd loathe it but meh.
less storage space is annoying (from 512gb downgraded to 128gb) as I could predownload Amazon Prime and Udemy videos, take 4K videos etc on Note 9 and never worry about space.
Fortunately I redeemed Fortnite Galaxy Skin before Note 9 broke, and can use it on Mate 20 Pro where the game loads much faster by the way.
I now feel safer and never alone, as the Chinese government is probably spying and looking after me

What's your opinion: Mi 8 vs Mi 9 Lite?

Hey guys!
I hope I'm in the right place to post/ask this. But I honestly don't know any better place to go to.
At the moment I am to decide between the Mi 8 (6/64GB) for 170 € and the Mi 9 Lite (6/128 GB) for 200 €.
I already ordered, received and set up the Mi8 and the good price for the Mi 9 Lite just appeared recently.
The Mi 8 definitely has a better performance due to the SD845 (vs SD710) and has WiFi MiMO, an OIS, as well as apt-X and costs 30 € less (at least for me). Likely due to its release date there also are way more ROMs and Mods available for the Mi8 already.
Mi 9 Lite on the other hand supports LTE Band28 (which will become more and more important in Germany), has better camera sensors, a bigger battery, an infrared blaster, SD card support, a drop notch, an audio jack and, well, in-screen fingerprint (which I guess is nice but not that important) and it was released about 1 year later which could lead to longer software support.
So there's very much points arguing for the Mi 9 Lite. But:
Does the premium SoC of the Mi 8 guarantee more updates over time then the Mi 9 lite?
Is the camera of the Mi 9 Lite really better than on the Mi 8 as OIS is missing?
Is the in-screen fingerprint more imprecise than fingerprint on the back?
Could apt-X also be applied to the Mi 9 Lite? (one day I read about it being implemented in LOS by default)
Thanks in advance for your help and opinions on this question.
Kind Regards,
Seyron

Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)

k3lcior said:
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Thank you very much for your fast answer!
Referring to this post the Mi8 also comes with an Samsung AMOLED, though I can't find much other reliable information elsewhere that would support this statement. Phonearena seems to be the only specs listing website that states it, too, as being produced by Samsung. However it's my first AMOLED device and I therefore can't compare to others. I've declared to myself that my next phone definitely would be one for under 200 € and would have to come with an AMOLED screen, which now, thanks to the special offer for the Mi 9 Lite, is met by both devices.
Yeah the battery point is a powerful one. I get 1.5 days of battery lifetime at most with low usage while I got almost 3 days out of my Redmi Note 4 when I didn't use it much.
Also B-S-G - afaik the most popular developer for GCam ports - is developing the GCam specifically for the Mi8 (among other devices) which almost guarantees a most recent and working GCam version for it. But I only can tell that the image quality is way better than it was on my Redmi Note 4, which on the other side just would be very devastating if it wasn't.
It'd also be worth mentioning that due to the different vendors I'd have 2 years warranty for the Mi 8 (Amazon) but none to a maximum of one year for the Mi 9 Lite (Banggood).

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862

mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.

what I can tell you about Mi 9 lite is : the screen is top , fingerprint on screen ( no need to turn your phone when on desk ) battery is xxl , microSD port , Irda port ( tv remote ) I use Nova rather than miui launcher and this phone is nearly perfect for what I do.

hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps

I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.

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https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
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As I pointed out I already compared both phones myself using gsmarena and just summarized the main differences upon which I wasn't able to make a decision.

kesc said:
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
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Thanks for your input! I have to say that just recently a colleague ordered and received his Mi 9 Lite and the In-Screen-Fingerprint seems to be quite fast and accurate at first glance.
Camera on the Mi 8 using GCam is amazing. Especially when compared to my old Redmi Note 4.
And as this is my first Amoled it also looks amazing, but I have no comparison.
I also face sudden SystemUI reboots on HavocOS on my Mi8 about once every two to three days.

seities said:
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
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Wow! Thank you so much for your efforts taking time to write such an detailed and honest opinion.
Talking about the Pixel Experience ROM I took a look into that and counting from release date of the Mi 8 it took about 6 months for a stable and official build to be released (May 2018 -> 25th Nov 2018).
Depending on the Mi 9 lite being released in Sep 2019 one could give it 2-3 months from now on compared to the time it took the Mi 8 to get some Official ROM support. As far as I can see the first unofficial custom ROMS for the Mi8 dropped in Oct 2018 which is 5 months after release whereas the first unofficial LOS build appeared just recently for the Mi 9 Lite. Therefore it only took the Mi 9 Lite 4 months to receive its first unofficial LOS build. So it looks like the support and development isn't that bad.
But yet it's still hard to tell how much (xda community) popularity the phone could get in the near future.
For me the battery life is one of the most convincing reason to buy. It was so satisfying to reach up to 3 days with my Redmi Note 4 without having to charge it once. I know this depends on usage but I always got at least 2 days if I wasn't at home gaming on the phone all the day.
Oh and yeah - you name it - the feeling of the vibration motor is so smooth and from the first moment on gives a so much more premium feeling than I experienced with the one in my Redmi Note 4. And yes the fingerprint scanner on the mi 8 is very fast and accurate.

Vinicius Bode said:
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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Interesting point. But isn't this just depending on the ROM/software or is this a hardware issue?
I already somehow adapted to the forehead notch. I found it quite ugly the first to days. And it still is. The teardrop notch definitely is way more attractive. I guess it's missing the IR front camera, though (not that it would be that important/useful). And are the speaker, proximity sensor as well as light sensor positioned under the Amoled somewhere?