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Planning to buy a Galaxy Note 4 in 2016?

hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you

Won't recommend it this late, especially when the likes of OnePlus 3 is out there, sorry. Also there is HTC 10. The only reason you should get the Note 4 is if you are getting it at a really low price. I love my Note 4, but a phone running TouchWiz, well it still runs TouchWiz. But if S Pen is a mandatory thing to you then you can't go anywhere else except the Note 4, that's true too.
Exynos all the way, if you don't wish for them AOSP based ROMs.

I don't agree, this is my fourth Note 4. Thought I could replace it with LG G4, no way. Thougth I could replace it with Oneplus 3, no way. Yeah, The OP3 is snappier, but thats it, everything else is better on Note 4.

OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.

phonepie said:
I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.
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I agree, the only reason why i dont choose the note 5 over the note 4 is for the sd card slot, and i dont get the note 7 becouse it is too way expensive.
I would choose the OP3 over the note 4 of course, but it doesnt have sd card slot, and there is only a variant of 64 gb
And i dont buy phones with mobile contract lol

Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?

I've had my N910C for about a year now and it's probably the best device I've ever had. I got it shortly last year after the SGS6 series was released and when the specs of the Note 5 were announced. If I do end up upgrading it will probably be to a Note 7 as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?
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C and U are the tags which stated that you have a Exynos 5433 Octocore device.

I recently bought a refurb TMo Note 4 that went for cheap to use as a backup phone to my Nexus 6P. The last Samsung phone I had was a S4 and I was disillusioned with Samsung since the S3 and very critical of their software, so I only used Motorola and Nexus since. I have opened many phones brands to see their internals including Huawei, HTC, Motorola, ZTE, Samsung and Apple. I'm never impressed with Samsung internal build quality including this Note 4, which I think is cheap considering how much it cost during release. (My opinion, you don't have to get offended.)
I didn't expected to like the S-Pen features so much, along with multitask and pop out feature. This is pretty important to me, to be able watch a video while doing something else at the same time. I can do this with third party apps on the Nexus, I like the fact it's built in for the Note. With Root, Adaway, Nova Launcher, XPosed (reluctantly) the phone is pretty smooth and while not super snappy as my Nexus 6P, it certainly isn't slow. Another important Samsung feature I like is the Game Tuner and this pretty much eliminate the performance issue since I can play games at 720p/1080p and get good framerates. Again I can lower the screen res on my Nexus as well, except this is built in and it only affect selected apps which is much more convenient. Basically, the Note have all the features I wanted built in that I would have to go through extra steps to make available on my Nexus. Did I mentioned removable battery, sdcard and IR blaster?
The only downside for the phone is the finger print scanner is crap, but Smart Unlock works for me so it's not a problem. Other minor issue is the GPS sucks, I had to open up the phone which scared me a bit actually, but I managed to bend that GPS gold contact point upward a bit, now the signal is great.
So I sold the 6P to pay some bills and using the Note 4 as my daily driver. I think the whole Note 7 recall might work in my favor if it cause the phone price to go down faster, then I might upgrade to the Note 7 rather than getting the the new Google Pixel phone.
I forget to mention T-Mobile WiFi Calling works perfectly and stays connected all the time with this phone, a huge deal. For whatever reason it's always disconnect on the Nexus 6P and with Android 7 update it got worse.
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as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Disagree, I recently bought 2x Note 4's for around 260€ a piece plus shipping and both are as new! So if you look around carefully you can find them for a reasonable price in as new condition...
Looking at ebay.de/co.uk and you will find good examples.
I would even go further that if they have some minor scratches on the frame, go and buy yourself a new frame. Replacing the frame is easy as is replacing the display assy...

OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Hi there,
I voted "YES" too.
I have one already (one Month old) and two more for the rest of the family coming this way. Why you may ask?
I need the S-Pen features, I wan't to be able to replace the battery (switch it in 2 min and 100% battery again), I'm using the SM-N9100 dual sim together with the MicroSD card (can't do that with Note 5 or Note7).
Finally the main reason (Price), I have friends in China that can buy it at 280€ , although locked to China SIM's but with a 10min call (using China SIM) and no problem at all using other Region SIM's ever.
It has a CHC rom (China and English) but using ODIN we can easily load the TGY Multi Language ROM with Gapps (Stock) and not triggering the KNOX warranty flag...
PS: The only downside points (by choosing the DualSIM N9100 version) are :
- The lack or Custom Roms (for example 6.0.1 not yet available "officially" in the TGY variant, maybe a few weeks from now since the CHC is "Finally" out).
- Smaller battery (3000 vs 3220).
- Less storage (16GB vs 32GB).
- Only Snapdragon, no Exynos option for dual sim.
- No FDD LTE band 20, but on the plus side we do have more bands for TDD side (traveling).
but unfortunately I really need the "DualSIM" feature .
PS: In China I saw the non-dual sim version at a even lower price (250€). Imagine buying three units at the same cost of the latest Note7. Can't beat the features/price ratio, especially packed with a amazing 5.7 inch 2K super Amoled screen . And I'm not talking about Refurbishing units.
Thanks,
Regards,

OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Depends ... the note 4 has a fine hardware, but the software (espacially updates) sucks. The note 4 is the first smartphone I never would get again. Don't get me wrong - really, the hardware is awesome, but the software (even with alternative) is just so bad. I came from a google nexus 2 years back and will get a nexus again.
Also I guess the note 4 won't get any more software updates, after the note 5 and 7 are out by now. I would suggest you wait till google releases their new nexus / pixel phones and look at the 6p then. My wife has the nexus 6p and I'm quite jealous - all that what I wanted the note 4 to be if you dont calc in the missing pen. Even the cam is better then the note 4 IMHO. And it will drop in price then.
Oh, and for what I don't like about the software ... it's slow and hangs from time to time. Also some Apps from Samsung are just bad like SVoice ... google now is much better in comparsion. If you ever used a pure android, you know what I mean. Also the additional apps like FB are something I don't want. Then there's the problem with the knox triggering when rooting (could result in a warranty dismissal) and so on. Or some random restarts with stock firmware (right now stock DBT snapdragon). Or the really bad finger print sensor. The Pen stuff is awesome and the OCR works like magic. But I use it quite rarely so it doesn't outweigh the cons.
Also I couldn't find any alternative rom that was working for me (too much stuff in it, too slow, to instabile, you name it) or with cm the health sensors not working and some other samsung stuff.
And to be a bit more clear, after I had some other samsung devices in my hands ... never again a samsung for me personally. Only the best phones get updates for more then like 6 months and new features don't reach the phones ever. Also it seems like there are 20 software engineering camps withing samsung, all working against each other...
But really, this is my personal, strong subjective feeling about the phone - if you like it or not, depends on how it works for you. For me there are too many things that anger me, mostly small things like I mentioned above. Might be it's different for you. Read some more reviews on amazon, even the bad ones.

You could set your priorities and then decide, OP.
Hardware: Note 4 is still decent, but much newer chipset and better chipset are out there.
Software: As far as TouchWiz goes, no comment there. But with a little bit of tweaking (by choosing performance over battery) you could the nice enough performance. But never to the level of HTC 10 and OnePlus 3. Read Anand's review of Note 7 and see the section where they compared the frame rates with HTC 10. TouchWiz lags mate, its as simple as that.
Camera + Display: Display is excellent, and camera is decent enough too.
S Pen: No competition there, again.
Build: Note 4 is the very LAST phone in Samsung's lineup where Samsung used practical materials to come up with a mobile phone. Now all of them are jewellery.
Price: Like I said in my previous comment, if you could get it at good price, which is somewhere around 25-30% lower than OnePlus 3's then "maybe" you could get it.

The note 4 is still a great device I still have my tmo 910t device i just ordered the 910c for exynos which is a little snappier than the snapdragon all the devices in my sig. i still own and use but for a few. I haven't added another note 5c and s6 edge plus to my sig yet. But the note 4 will keep up with those other devices for the age. if you want a loud ringing phone note 4 is it.. The note 5 isnt as loud as the note 4 or the note 3 for that matter..

I currently have a Note 4 on the Verizon network.. Plus it is snapper than most, plus it can handle anything I throw at it app wise.. Never over heats or crahses.. The Note 5 and seven both have none removal batteries, and that is a draw back for me.. Plus it still has volte, and the newer ones do not.. I also have the Droid Turbo on Verizon.. What I do not like, is before I installed a custom rom, the battery would drain, and constantly needed to be charge.. Plus it would over heat a lot and freeze.. I would consider another Note 4 if I needed one.. But when the Note 4 is payed off, I plan on getting any Samsung device or another brand all together.. It will depend on price, and development..

ar emoji note 8

coming to note 8?

I do not believe! Officially, you have to buy S9, but after Note8 gets Oreo, it can be done porting the S9 application on Note8.

Port
Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
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I do not believe! Officially, you have to buy S9, but after Note8 gets Oreo, it can be done porting the S9 application on Note8.
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Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
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No - Its not easy and the AR emoji was made specifically to work on the S9 - it probably will not work on the Note 8 at all...but maybe there is a developer who could work magic. Don't expect to see it for a long time

Must port with cameraS9.apk.I expect Note9.

1WalkerBait said:
I have it working. Will post pics when I can
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Thanks what apps did you use

1WalkerBait said:
Arcore apk, gcam5 arnov version. Wont work at first but let the arcore apk will update through Google then it will work
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Where did you find that apk
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Arcore apk, gcam5 arnov version. Wont work at first but let the arcore apk will update through Google then it will work
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I think you are in the wrong thread we're talking about a note 8 camera not Google camera apk

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Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
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There is a app that works like ar emoji...
Its really cool app....
And the app name is booble keaboard...you can get this app in playstore

i just finished with a new update of my note 8 with oreo .. but unfortunately it doesn't support ar emoji

So the Note 8 definitely will not get AR emoji? I just got a notice few months ago when I'm not really into the note series I really want the 9 plus I should have waited. The note is too big for me and I like the fingerprint sensor on the nine.

Rose4uKY said:
So the Note 8 definitely will not get AR emoji? I just got a notice few months ago when I'm not really into the note series I really want the 9 plus I should have waited. The note is too big for me and I like the fingerprint sensor on the nine.
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Officially from Samsung, probably not.
Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+

Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+[/QUOTE]
Yes I've held the S9 Plus we originally had the 7 Edge and wanted to upgrade but the 8 plus wasn't enough difference for us to upgrade. And then we saw specs of the note we got it only because it had the dual cameras an the 6 gigs of RAM and was the latest phone out plus Samsung gave us 300 bucks for our 7 edges which is the price we paid for them from Sprint on a two-year contract. But I knew the nine would be out in a few months and I should have waited. But we didn't know that Samsung would still be given $300 out for the 7 Edge so that's another reason we did it that quickly. I'm not really into the note series I have small hands and I never use the pen I don't like where the fingerprint sensor is.
The S9 plus has dual speakers with Dolby Atmos better camera the intelligent scan and of course the AR Emoji which I believe would like to have. Was going to sell my note and get the S9 plus but we just got our phones a few months back and my husband doesn't want me doing that and spending the difference on an S9 Plus so I'm hoping the note get some of the features of the 9. We've only had our notes for like 3 months I paid 650 and got offered 550 but then I'd have to pay 850 for a S9 plus unlocked so it's probably not going to happen

Rose4uKY said:
Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+
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Yes I've held the S9 Plus we originally had the 7 Edge and wanted to upgrade but the 8 plus wasn't enough difference for us to upgrade. And then we saw specs of the note we got it only because it had the dual cameras an the 6 gigs of RAM and was the latest phone out plus Samsung gave us 300 bucks for our 7 edges which is the price we paid for them from Sprint on a two-year contract. But I knew the nine would be out in a few months and I should have waited. But we didn't know that Samsung would still be given $300 out for the 7 Edge so that's another reason we did it that quickly. I'm not really into the note series I have small hands and I never use the pen I don't like where the fingerprint sensor is.
The S9 plus has dual speakers with Dolby Atmos better camera the intelligent scan and of course the AR Emoji which I believe would like to have. Was going to sell my note and get the S9 plus but we just got our phones a few months back and my husband doesn't want me doing that and spending the difference on an S9 Plus so I'm hoping the note get some of the features of the 9. We've only had our notes for like 3 months I paid 650 and got offered 550 but then I'd have to pay 850 for a S9 plus unlocked so it's probably not going to happen[/QUOTE]
I have seen numerous videos and articles that all seem unanimous in suggesting people not upgrade from the Note 8 to the S9. They actually feel that it’s almost a downgrade because the only thing you are really getting is a better chip and the speakers. The S9+ is different where you aren’t losing items that the Note 8 has other than the S Pen, which in my opinion is a big loss, but you are gaining potentially a camera that’s better in low light. However, again every suggestion I’ve seen was to not upgrade. There was one person who said if you really don’t use the S Pen then maybe. I also wanted to point out what the other individual was trying to point out and that’s the difference in size. It’s S9+ at 158 x 74 x 8.5 mm and the Note 8 at 163 x 75 x 8.6 mm. So the dimensions are almost identical. You may want to hold them both in your hand. One suggestion I have for you is something that happened to me personally. When I had the Note 2 and the Note 3 was coming out, I had a friend who asked me if I was going to upgrade. I said honestly, no. I don’t really draw and really don’t use or need the S Pen. He proceeded to show me just a few things that I was unaware of and then suggested I look at a particular site and YouTube video. I ended up buying the Note 3 and everyone except the Note 5 because it didn’t have the SD card. I was completely unaware of all the capabilities. So before you pass on the Note series as a whole, I would just suggest you really learn all of the capabilities of the S Pen.
The other thing that doesn’t help is Samsung got rid of the old S Note in favor of Samsung Notes which is an inferior app. The original S Note came with Action Memo, Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. In my opinion it’s probably the best app ever for the S Pen and maybe even the best app period. I was going to say if you’re interested there’s a way to get it installed that I learned from another Thread in this site. However, I just updated my phone to Oreo and it messed up some of it. It looks like we can’t get Easy Chart installed and Photo Note looks to only work in landscape. But this just happened over the weekend, so I’m hoping that someone will figure out a solution. If you do end up with the S9+, I hope you enjoy it!

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The other thing that doesn’t help is Samsung got rid of the old S Note in favor of Samsung Notes which is an inferior app. The original S Note came with Action Memo, Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. In my opinion it’s probably the best app ever for the S Pen and maybe even the best app period. I was going to say if you’re interested there’s a way to get it installed that I learned from another Thread in this site. However, I just updated my phone to Oreo and it messed up some of it. It looks like we can’t get Easy Chart installed and Photo Note looks to only work in landscape. But this just happened over the weekend, so I’m hoping that someone will figure out a solution. If you do end up with the S9+, I hope you enjoy it!
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There is a post here where some guys teach how to enable scrapbook and all features and apps. Also I modded all those apps to work on nougat but I don't try yet on oreo because i don't need it now. You should try it; I'm agree with you, s note had been the best Samsung app with all features.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/how-to-easy-chart-note-8-t3699950
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It seems that on oreo is really not working... to bad.

Thanks everyone! For now I am keeping my Note 8. My husband says we just got these 3 months ago and if I sell my Note and only get 550 I still have to pay the difference for the unlocked s9 plus. I just wish we would of waited but we didn't know Samsung would still be giving $300 for the 7 edge. But I have small hands and I know the 9 plus is big too I like where the fingerprint sensor is. I don't use the pen or know about other Notes and what they had but I do love my Note it's fast and I have no complaints and will be getting Oreo on my unlocked in the next couple weeks. All carriers have it now I read. But yesterday I did play with an S9 that was in this little Best Buy mobile at the mall and I made a gallery of like 18 AR Emojis and sent them to myself than deleted them off the phone so I could see what it looked like. I've seen a 9 plus on display too and yesterday he said here hold an 8 plus same as 9 plus. I wouldn't do a regular 9 cause of hardware but I was also thinking I maybe should just wait for the S10 and maybe it will be 5G ready.
We have Sprint and got unlocked so we could switch to another carrier here soon. But thanks for now I will keep my Note if hubby would of let me I probably would of done it though and got a purple s9 plus but I am not unhappy and I love my Note works great. Just hope battery stays the same or is better once we get Oreo. Cause I always had to charge my 7 edge at work in the lower level with no signal my Note I never have to charge.

Oneplus 6T to Note 9

Hi guys I am starting to get bored of this phone and looking to purchase a Note 9. Has anyone else done same. And as I am in uk how is Battery life on exynos version.

Well, I'm coming from a OnePlus 6 (8/128GB version) to a Note 9 (6/128GB Snapdragon version).
I can say the overall experience isn't as different as I thought it would be. I got used to Samsung Experience rather quickly. Haven't used the OP6 since getting the Note 9.
Check out the battery threads to get an idea of what to expect for the Exynos version. I get around the same battery performance with both the 6 and Note 9, but one has a FHD screen and the other a QHD screen. One has a stock Android experience, the other has tons of bloat (including processes).

I've got a Oneplus 6, fancy a note 9
The 2 things I love the most is the gcam hack and clean android
Whats the best note to get for using it the gcam hack with the sd845 or exynos? And are there any fully working clean android roms again is it better to get the sd845 or exynos?
Thanks

I had the OP5T and got quite bored with it also and i got the 512GB Exynos N9 and am quite enjoying it. I am also running Samsung Pie beta and everything is good. Just a lot more bloatware on Samsung compared to OP5T. I haven't looked back either

I also came from a Oneplus 5T and while I wasn't bored with the 5T, I just felt like it was time to upgrade. My decision came down to the N9 and the Oneplus 6T. Originally I purchased the 512GB N960DF/DS because of the unlock BL potential but quickly returned the phone because the signal was horrific and I was missing important LTE bands on ATT. I then bit the bullet and decided on the N9 US unlocked version. I am an admitted itchy finger custom rom flasher and I've always had unlocked phones in the past that allowed rooting. Obviously, the N9 US has locked BL so no root or TWRP. To be honest, I haven't even been bothered with the non ability to root. I really enjoy the stock version of the phone and I've grown fond of Samsung Pay, Knox encryption, Secured Folders, and Bixby. Root on this phone would obviously kill warranty, trip Knox and kill the ability to secure the phone properly. For a $1000 phone, that's too much of a risk if I ever have to put in a warranty claim.
The N9 IMO is superb in every way especially in the screen, audio, and overall speed department. Battery life on SD845 appears to be similar to my OP5T but that's saying a lot because the battery on my OP5T was heavily tweaked using custom kernels. I'm happy with the Samsung Experience thus far so my only worry is that I don't get bored with the locked BL down the road. This is the reason I bought the N960U1 unlocked version that cab be used on ANY network CSMA & GSM for better resale value. I did flash ATT firmware to get my carrier features such as Wifi Calling, Volte, etc but I will simply flash the stock unlocked firmware when it's time to sell. I feel like I'm winning in this deal so far! Good luck with your decision.
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I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc

oneandroidnut said:
I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc
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Same here have the 6T and just place a order for Note 9 gonna use it for a week or 2 and decide which to sell or send back

Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work

oneandroidnut said:
I tried a 6T and also got bored of it. Went back to my note 9 just has more options, better screen, better fingerprint reader, s pen, better camera, better battery etc etc
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In uk with Samsung cashback bought it for £650 New

worldsoutro said:
Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work
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I mean I don't disagree, for the money I think it is a nice phone I just prefer the note. I mean I didn't full retail for 512 gb note 9 but I didn't either for my 6T. About $570 vs $930. Is the note 9 double the phone of the 6T? Nah but did I use the note 9 more when i had both, yup. i am trying pixel 3 now to see how it compared with a price in between the two

worldsoutro said:
Well for the price I'd hope the Note 9 is better. I have both and use both for certain situations. I use the 6T on the weekends, love stock, clesn and slightly faster overall. I use the Note 9 when traveling, work
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I pulled the trigger on a brand new note 9 for £590
My op6 is the 256gb version and therefore was only 20 quid less

I have the 6T 8/256 and the Note SM-N960FD 6/128, and have been trying to pick one to use and one to sell. By buying the Note on Black Friday I paid the same for both phones ($630). I'm in the US on T-Mobile and require root. It's a really tough call. The 6T is a better pure phone for my needs but it's hard to pass up the amazing hardware on the Note.
6T pros:
Form factor & high screen:body. Speed. Useful mods & minimal bloat. Great battery life & SOT. Dash charging. Full TMB support w/o hacks (LTE bands, CA, VoLTE, Wi-Fi call/text). No issues w/root & encryption. TWRP can decrypt data. Similarity to Pixel makes features like GCam easier to port.
6T cons:
Screen & camera not best in class. No SD slot. No notification LED. No headphone jack. No wireless charging. Weak vibration motor. No IP certification. Curve of display corners.
Note pros:
Screen A+ from DisplayMate. Great camera w/2x zoom. Stereo speakers w/Atmos. SD slot. S-Pen. DeX. USB 3.0. Rear fingerprint & iris scan. Some Samsung features & apps add value.
Note cons:
Exynos performance per AnandTech. Modem missing TMB LTE bands & CA capability in US. Loss of features/value upon rooting & tripping Knox. No warranty. Root & encrypted data don't like to coexist. Proprietary Samsung encryption (TWRP can't decrypt). Samsung bloat in background processes. Proprietary IMS/VoLTE stack. Broken MTP file transfer on Mac. Slow OS updates. Size & squared design. One UI in upcoming Pie release wastes screen real estate.

5upon said:
I have the 6T 8/256 and the Note SM-N960FD 6/128, and have been trying to pick one to use and one to sell. By buying the Note on Black Friday I paid the same for both phones ($630). I'm in the US on T-Mobile and require root. It's a really tough call. The 6T is a better pure phone for my needs but it's hard to pass up the amazing hardware on the Note.
6T pros:
Form factor & high screen:body. Speed. Useful mods & minimal bloat. Great battery life & SOT. Dash charging. Full TMB support w/o hacks (LTE bands, CA, VoLTE, Wi-Fi call/text). No issues w/root & encryption. TWRP can decrypt data. Similarity to Pixel makes features like GCam easier to port.
6T cons:
Screen & camera not best in class. No SD slot. No notification LED. No headphone jack. No wireless charging. Weak vibration motor. No IP certification. Curve of display corners.
Note pros:
Screen A+ from DisplayMate. Great camera w/2x zoom. Stereo speakers w/Atmos. SD slot. S-Pen. DeX. USB 3.0. Rear fingerprint & iris scan. Some Samsung features & apps add value.
Note cons:
Exynos performance per AnandTech. Modem missing TMB LTE bands & CA capability in US. Loss of features/value upon rooting & tripping Knox. No warranty. Root & encrypted data don't like to coexist. Proprietary Samsung encryption (TWRP can't decrypt). Samsung bloat in background processes. Proprietary IMS/VoLTE stack. Broken MTP file transfer on Mac. Slow OS updates. Size & squared design. One UI in upcoming Pie release wastes screen real estate.
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Why do you "require" root? Not sure how note 9 slow os updates are a negative I have unlocked note 9 and get regular updates every month like a pixel device. Pie isn't that bad if you use it. Few things they need to fix but it isn't a negative about the device thus far

Update received my note 9 but glad I did not unsealed it as the online retailer (John Lewis) does not accept returns on unsealed item unless faulty. Guess gonna have to keep 6T.

I sold my One Plus 6 for a Huawei mate 20 pro I had to put 600 along with OP6 because I wanted the Twilight 256 GB version. Big mistake.big. Huge. I can almost guarantee that if your a power user you will be disappointed with the Note 9 it will slow down and all the preloaded bloat will really upset you after a while. The Huawei is one of the fastest phone's on the planet right now but certainly doesn't feel like it. If you're used to snappy performance few handsets will feel like a OP6 in my opinion and I have no allegiance to any brand for me it's the speed that is everything. Benchmarks don't mean **** in the real world and the Huawei was like a son of Samsung. I had the last Note 8 and many Samsung's over the years and again it just began to irritate me after time. I do understand your boredom that's always a problem for me I was lucky to sell my Huawei this side of Xmas and now my fingers are wrapped around One Plus 6 T McLaren edition. God it's good to be home.
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I have both as well and it's really a tough choice. I have the 6T 8gb/128 and Note 9 128gb dual sim. The OnePlus is faster at everything while the Note 9 seems to do everything slightly better. It my hand, the 6T feels like a better form factor, but the screen of the Note 9 is beautiful (and less rounded, not sure why OnePlus rounded the screen so much!).
When I need stuff done quickly and painlessly, the 6T is my pick. When I have time to kill or want to watch videos/play games, the Note 9 is amazing. Also, to me, the Note 9 is not usable without a case. The combination of dry hands, heavy phone that's slippery and curved edges means the phone slips frequently, I constantly touch the edges of the screen with accidental taps, and after you put the Note 9 in a decent case (I use spigen neo), turns a large phone into something even bigger.
You probably know this but the Note 9 is a bigger phone but the screen is the same size as the 6T.
I'm leaning towards the 6T because it's fast and reliable, not the most exciting but if I get bored, I can easily root it and tinker. Also, when Android 10 beta is released, I won't be waiting months for it.

I'm in the same boat trying to decide which one to hold and which one to flip, between Oneplus 6 256 vs Note 9 128.
Both have their pros and cons. What's so far making me lean towards Note 9 are the speakers, screen size, battery & better vibration motor. I've already rooted my Note 9.
What I'm missing from my Oneplus 6 is the super fluid stock like Android Pie experience, better hand grip & size, faster face unlock, faster fingerprint and stability with the apps. Battery life is one of my big concerns on OP6 which is good, but not even close to Note 9. Although ones deciding against the OP6T, it's pretty close to N9.
So far holding on both.
Thanks!

I have both. I moved on from note 9 to 6T. 6T while it has smaller battery lasts longer than note 9. Even with One UI. Note 9s standby drain is significantly better on One UI but overall 6T lasts longer for my day to day use.
Speaker is definitely better on note 9 but I rarely use the speaker.
things that keeps me staying with 6T is size of the phone, Google camera port, and stock Android feel.

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I have both. I moved on from note 9 to 6T. 6T while it has smaller battery lasts longer than note 9. Even with One UI. Note 9s standby drain is significantly better on One UI but overall 6T lasts longer for my day to day use.
Speaker is definitely better on note 9 but I rarely use the speaker.
things that keeps me staying with 6T is size of the phone, Google camera port, and stock Android feel.
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The size of both phones is almost exact width wise and note is just a tad taller

forgot to mention the biggest issue with Note 9. connectivity consistency. I know a game might not be the most effective way to testing, but sliter.io which is an online game that is dependent on having a low latency connection, is horrible on Note 9. Under the same conditions, Note 9 CONSTANTLY, and I mean CONSTANT, lags and studders while, my 6T, Iphone 6, Iphone 8, Ipad 2018, Pixelbook, doesn't.
Other connectivity problem is bluetooth. 6T is consistently more stable at longer range.. roughly 2x the range of Note 9.. again under same conditions.

Should I get the Note 8?

I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?

I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable

If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.

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If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info. I am also considering to buy one since it's a well built phone and is cheap now. I don't really care about the android but Samsung gave pip on nougat so I guess I won't miss out any new features and I will have a secondary mi a1 which has been through rigorous flashing of roms:silly:

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I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable
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i'm in the Same case. I've Skipped the note 9 and waiting for the 10. And as you said, the note 8 is excellent "and can still run for a long time for all the peoples who don't care about the newest tech and the lastest useless features. I mean, why 3 or 5 rear Cameras when the note8 shots very well with its actual config. it's just an example

Is the battery still good guys?
Samsung said it will still hold 95 percent charge after 2 years is that true?
Is the fingerprint sensor really as bad as they say?

My note 8 is 16 months old, and the battery is as good as day one, accubattery reports that it charges up to 3325 mAh, and the fingerprint sensor is always accurate, it reads in less than a second, but this is MY experience

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I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?
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Android Pie will be the last major update for the Note 8, but it should keep getting security updates for another year or so. If Samsung doesn't release Android 10 firmware, then it can't be ported to the Note 8. There's no AOSP projects for the Note 8, so that won't be ported, either.
If you want to get a device that will keep getting new Android version updates, rather get a Pixel device. If you get the Note 8, you get it for the added features Samsung provides, and not because of their update schedule.
I guess, ultimately, it's down to whether you always want the newest version, or whether you want certain added features. Myself, I prefer the features the Note 8 provides. I'm happy staying on Android Pie for the next year or two until I decide to upgrade my device again to the then latest Note device.

If you shop around you could probably get a Note 9 for a excellent price. However if you are strapped for cash, then the Note 8 is an excellent device. I purchased the Note 8 shortly after the SGS9 series release and I am perfectly happy with my decision and will probably be using it until the battery starts to degrade.

Question Considering the S21 Ultra...any recent feedback welcome (USA)

Hello,
So as ATT plans to kill my Huawei Mate 20 x I am forced to change phones and well, there is really nothing big in the market aside from the fold 2 which I did not love.
So, I am considering the S21 Ultra at least to get a nice set of cameras with this forced upgrade.
How are you guys liking the phone...any recent feedback based on new firmware upgrades is welcome
Thanks

No SD card slot. That means no data drive or easy factory resets.
Rounded display corners ugly it up bad... a weak offering from Sammy.
Go with a used Note 10+512gb Snapdragon or a new Note 20U.
Drop dead gorgeous displays. A used 10+ in excellent condition can be had for $650 at B&H Photo, a trusted vendor.

The S21 Ultra, Hong Kong variant (SM-G9980, CSC - TGY) is a great option for a number of reasons. Snapdragon SoC, recieves updates directly from Samsung sooner than US branded devices, no carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, none of which are available on the AT&T device. If call features and a warranty are a priority buy AT&Ts device but without a MicroSD and only 256GB (200GB usable) consider if that works for you. AT&T doesn't offer the 512GB any longer but the Hong Kong device still does at select retailers.

We may be jumping to Tmobile since they have the Samsung buy one get one free deal. But looks like my phone WILL work on Tmobile so we may not even need to swap phones.

(Not a flex)
I've had the S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and now S21 Ultra. I can confidently say I love the S21 Ultra and will be keeping this one. A bit annoyed there is no SD card but it's not a huge issue, just use Google drove to back up crucial files and no MST. Was nice to have but even where I live they are adding NFC everywhere.
100% recommend this phone. Fixed all the issues I had with the S20 Ultra. Updates have been good (except this month). Firmware updates have also ironed out the bugs

I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.

Misterxtc said:
I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.
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Zizo Bolt case for the Notes. Excellent protection and it enhances usability.
I rarely use the spen but there's no substitute when I need it.
Smart Select is great.
It's write on jpeg feature is fast and easy.
It's remote shutter release is very useful.
No SD card means you're boned when doing a factory reset especially if you have a large data base. It makes reloads needlessly awkward and time consuming at best.
It would take hours to reload my data base alone.
These phones now support 1tb cards, a Lexar .5 tb V30 cards are $65 now. An SD card slot is a no brainer if you use it as intended, as a data drive with a fast, high capacity SD card.
By storing copies of your apps and updates on the card you no longer need Playstore to load them after a reset. That saves time and ensures you get exactly the apps and version you want.

Misterxtc said:
I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.
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What was your experience with your rooted Note 20 Ultra? I just purchased a used Note 20 Ultra on eBay today and hope the bootloader is unlockable to possibly root. I use a rooted Note 8 running Oreo right now and, with the way I configured it, is an awesome phone. However, the processor sucks DragonBalls. Are there good rooted features on the Note 20 as there were for the Note 8?

Well, just to clarify, I have decided to go with the S21 Ultra if I need to upgrade my phone as I prefer it over what I saw from the Note 20 Ultra and others.

keep in mind that the S21 Ultras are plagued with a camera service wakelock that drains the battery whenever motion is detected so expect a drain if you will be moving a lot with the phone in your pocket. Still no fix from samsung but some custom ROMs have sort of addressed the issue to some extent.

shaolin95 said:
Well, just to clarify, I have decided to go with the S21 Ultra if I need to upgrade my phone as I prefer it over what I saw from the Note 20 Ultra and others.
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No buy one get one free on the Ultra, only the S21 base model with T-mobile's promotion.

varcor said:
No buy one get one free on the Ultra, only the S21 base model with T-mobile's promotion.
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I am Buying the Ultra and getting the regular one free for my wife.

shaolin95 said:
I am Buying the Ultra and getting the regular one free for my wife.
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Get a good case before you start carry it around. These phones wuv to corner hit and face plant... do not use without a case.

blackhawk said:
Get a good case before you start carry it around. These phones wuv to corner hit and face plant... do not use without a case.
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Yep always order cases and tempered glass for front and cameras for my phones
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Go for it amigo. You'll be happy.

I have had my s21 ultra 5g four 6 months now and I am extremely happy with it. I have the big boy 16 gigs mem and 512 gigs storage. I've had no prob with it.

i like it. i'm on att but I am running into possibly a bug or a problem with one or 2 of my apps where notifications from the app will wake the screen whether or not you have accidental touch protection on. super frustrating on that front but otherwise it's a solid phone in general.

shaolin95 said:
Hello,
So as ATT plans to kill my Huawei Mate 20 x I am forced to change phones and well, there is really nothing big in the market aside from the fold 2 which I did not love.
So, I am considering the S21 Ultra at least to get a nice set of cameras with this forced upgrade.
How are you guys liking the phone...any recent feedback based on new firmware upgrades is welcome
Thanks
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Love it, came from an Asus ROG Phone 2.

paul_cherma said:
keep in mind that the S21 Ultras are plagued with a camera service wakelock that drains the battery whenever motion is detected so expect a drain if you will be moving a lot with the phone in your pocket. Still no fix from samsung but some custom ROMs have sort of addressed the issue to some extent.
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Wait what ??? Got any links with more details about this ?

techbrutha said:
What was your experience with your rooted Note 20 Ultra? I just purchased a used Note 20 Ultra on eBay today and hope the bootloader is unlockable to possibly root. I use a rooted Note 8 running Oreo right now and, with the way I configured it, is an awesome phone. However, the processor sucks DragonBalls. Are there good rooted features on the Note 20 as there were for the Note 8?
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Sorry for the late response. The only thing I miss with a rooted Samsung phone is ad blocking options. Other than that having a borked phone that can't be updated properly is not appealing to me. I'll go to the Pixel line if I want root in the future but for now I'm content with my Ultra.