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Before I get started with rooting and flashing, what should I avoid, and what works for out T-Mobile variant? Should I stick to TMO specific ROMs, or can I use something from the Note 4 Snapdragon Development Forum. coming form a HTC One M8 where changing the CID basically made it a generic international model. Do we have the same options with N4?
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Before I get started with rooting and flashing, what should I avoid, and what works for out T-Mobile variant? Should I stick to TMO specific ROMs, or can I use something from the Note 4 Snapdragon Development Forum. coming form a HTC One M8 where changing the CID basically made it a generic international model. Do we have the same options with N4?
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In the past when I had the note 3 I used N9005 roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development . General rule of thumb as long it says N9005 for the note 3 then its a 80/20 chance that roms will work. I had some run perfectly with a few steps, like compatible kernal and patch for wifi/bluetooth/nfc fixes to work. In my past experience with using these roms, i learned that some will work and some will give you problems no matter what you tried. For example a rom i used for like almost half a year worked just fine, then a update to a new version updates and nothing worked. Kernals, patches nothing worked, so i used another rom for a while and then i went back to it recently and everything was working again.
So my advice is read every single instruction the rom developer has provided and make sure you follow it to ensure success. Read other FAQS and use the search button and so on. Most questions you may have, may already been answered by other people who post regular in the forums.
So based on this information, i believe this model is equivalent to N9005 Roms: http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/ca552ee0
So look for roms that run N910s, from the link above it uses snapdragon processor, so hardware and it looks like the bands are close to US ones. So those are the roms that you need to look for.
One more thing I am not 100% sure if that is indeed the correct model to use, maybe im wrong and someone can correct me. Either way good luck and ask away if you have any other questions.
I have a tricky question:
How can I find out the actual, REAL hardware model I have? D5803 or D5833? When I check Settings-->About phone-->Model number, I get D5833, but I don't know if this setting shows the ACTUAL device model, or the flashed ROM's. Does anybody know? In case it's the ROM's, how can I find out the real hardware model I have? (Before you tell: I threw away the box and invoice long ago.)
Background: A few months ago I flashed a prerooted 5833 ROM (working fine, so far). However, since both 5803 and 5833 ROMs are virtually interchangeable and can be flashed to both models, the problem is now I don't remember if I flashed the version matching my actual model. (Back then, I just wanted to get the latest pre-rooted and didn't care much about matching versions.)
Thank you in advance. (I hope this is not double posting: I've searched the forums but haven't found an answer to this particular.)
zogoibi said:
I have a tricky question:
How can I find out the actual, REAL hardware model I have? D5803 or D5833? When I check Settings-->About phone-->Model number, I get D5833, but I don't know if this setting shows the ACTUAL device model, or the flashed ROM's. Does anybody know? In case it's the ROM's, how can I find out the real hardware model I have? (Before you tell: I threw away the box and invoice long ago.)
Background: A few months ago I flashed a prerooted 5833 ROM (working fine, so far). However, since both 5803 and 5833 ROMs are virtually interchangeable and can be flashed to both models, the problem is now I don't remember if I flashed the version matching my actual model. (Back then, I just wanted to get the latest pre-rooted and didn't care much about matching versions.)
Thank you in advance. (I hope this is not double posting: I've searched the forums but haven't found an answer to this particular.)
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It shouldn't make any difference, the difference between the models is to do with the 4G bands available to the phone. If the 4G is working then you probably have the right model.
Why not use Xperiafirm to find the correct firmware for your country/provider, then download the firmware and use Flashtool to create a tft, then flash just the baseband. That will give you the correct modem, regardless of what build you have on the phone, and won't change the rom in any way.
Thank you @Didgesteve for your answer. I know what you mean (and I already did that). But my question remains:
How do I find which of the two existing Z3 Compact models am I holding in my hand?
I'd rather not engage in debating the baseband or ROM differences. The fact is: both models, D5833 and D5803, aren't identical; and I want to know which one is mine.
Never mind my country. I bought it second hand and I can't know exactly where was it bought. The information in the "About phone" settings only tells the flashed ROM, but not the supporting hardware.
My guess is, perhaps only the serial number may have that information embedded. But how do I get the model out of the serial number?
Anybody?
Thank you.
zogoibi said:
But how do I get the model out of the serial number?
Anybody?
Thank you.
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If you open the flap where you put the sim in, look closely under the sim slot is a thin piece of plastic, you might need tweezers to pull it out.
Printed on that is the model number and serial number and a european CE mark
Excellent! That worked. Thanks a lot. I guess I'll try to label this as solved.
I just got my hands on a Note 9 that was bought from Rogers and therefore has the Rogers rom.
I can use ADB or PDP to remove the bloat, but for the sake of simplicity, I would much rather just use a standard universal rom. I remember being able to do this when I had my Note 7 but its been a while and I'm forgetting the process. I remember using Odin lol.
Any advice and help is greatly appteciated! Also, I tried searching but XDA search NEVER seems to show results, EVER.
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I just got my hands on a Note 9 that was bought from Rogers and therefore has the Rogers rom.
I can use ADB or PDP to remove the bloat, but for the sake of simplicity, I would much rather just use a standard universal rom. I remember being able to do this when I had my Note 7 but its been a while and I'm forgetting the process. I remember using Odin lol.
Any advice and help is greatly appteciated! Also, I tried searching but XDA search NEVER seems to show results, EVER.
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I'm almost certain the SM-N960U1 firmware will work on your phone.
However,you may lose some carrier-specific functionality (WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM/etc....) by doing so.
I have no direct knowledge of Rogers,but,there is a dedicated Canadian Note 9 thread you may want to take a look at before proceeding:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...te-9-canadian-thread-rumours-pricing-t3826820
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@imatts
Taking a look at this this site (Updato),it looks like there may be Canadian-specific unlocked/SIM-Free (SM-N960W) firmware:
https://updato.com/firmware-archive...&rpp=15&r=SPC,XAC&order=date&dir=desc&exact=1
Again,my knowledge of Canadian versions & carriers is non-existent,so,please take a look in the thread I linked above for guidance.
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I'm almost certain the SM-N960U1 firmware will work on your phone.
However,you may lose some carrier-specific functionality (WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM/etc....) by doing so.
I have no direct knowledge of Rogers,but,there is a dedicated Canadian Note 9 thread you may want to take a look at before proceeding:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...te-9-canadian-thread-rumours-pricing-t3826820
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@imatts
Taking a look at this this site (Updato),it looks like there may be Canadian-specific unlocked/SIM-Free (SM-N960W) firmware:
https://updato.com/firmware-archive...&rpp=15&r=SPC,XAC&order=date&dir=desc&exact=1
Again,my knowledge of Canadian versions & carriers is non-existent,so,please take a look in the thread I linked above for guidance.
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Thank you. Another noob question (if anyone else is reading this, feel free to also help!)
I see a ton of random characters after the N960W, what do they mean? How do I know which one to choose, and also, whats the difference between the XAC and SPC versions?
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Thank you. Another noob question (if anyone else is reading this, feel free to also help!)
I see a ton of random characters after the N960W, what do they mean? How do I know which one to choose, and also, whats the difference between the XAC and SPC versions?
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I can help you there. I wrote a guide to decode the build number. It was written for the N960U, but still applies to the N960W.
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You can tell what version of Android it is just by the build number. You can also tell if each update just contains the updated security patch, or if new features were added or updated.*
The first character (S or U) tells you if it's a security patch or a feature update. S = Security Patch and U = Feature Update (features added or changed)
The second character (a number) tells you bootloader version. This is important to know when upgrading and downgrading OS versions. You can NOT downgrade the bootloader. 1 = Bootloader V1, 2 = Bootloader v2, etc...*
The third character tells you the Android version. This is different for each Galaxy device. A is the Android version that device 2as released with. (For the Note 9 A=Oreo; C=Pie) B will likely be newer versions of Oreo, possibly with an updated bootloader. Z is for official Samsung BETA program builds.*
The fourth character is the year of the build (R=2018, S=2019). This is the same across all Galaxy devices.
The fifth character is the month of the build. This does not indicate what security patch it contains, only what month it was built. (A=January, B=February). Again, same across all Galaxy Devices.*
The sixth character is just the sequence of builds that month (1-9, then A-Z)
SO
S - Security Patch
1 - Bootloader V1
A - Oreo
R - 2018
J - October build
9 - 9th build in October
and*
U - Feature update
1 - Bootloader V1
C - Pie
R - 2018
L - December build
2 - 2nd build in December
and
U - Feature update
1 - Bootloader v1
Z - Official Samsung BETA program build
R - 2018
K - November build
P - 25th build in November
So let's break down my current build number, N960U1UEU1ZRLL
N960U1 - Build is for the Factory unlocked U1 model
UE - Honestly I have no idea, LOL
U - Features updated or added
1 - Bootloader V1
Z - Official beta build
R - 2018
L - December*
L - 12th build in December
Make sense?
all canadian firmwares I've seen are identical. the trick would be to change your sales code to XAC(unbranded Canadian region code). and just flashing the XAC firmware wont do squat as it still contains all carriers because its multi csc and your sim card will still end up being detected and get its carriers bloat. (SPC = PC mobile , president's choice? lol)
i have no experiance with flashing u1 on a W.
but if it works, loosing csc specific features and other stuff might not be worth it in the end just to debloat.
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UE - Honestly I have no idea, LOL
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pretty sure its United States' region identifier
bober10113 said:
pretty sure its United States' region identifier
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You may be right. I honestly haven't researched that part of the build number.
Edit:. It appears that's correct. I can find a list of region codes, but ironically none of them include US region codes. But that has to be the region code.
The N60U1 firmware all show a region code of UE, and the carrier branded N960U show a region code of SQ.
Thanks for the info!!
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I can help you there. I wrote a guide to decode the build number. It was written for the N960U, but still applies to the N960W.
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Dude I am so thankful that you took the time to break this down for me, and you have helped me dramatically. Makes perfect sense, and I've gone ahead and downloaded the proper fw!
I downloaded the XAC version. It says 4hrs til complete though -_-
imatts said:
Dude I am so thankful that you took the time to break this down for me, and you have helped me dramatically. Makes perfect sense, and I've gone ahead and downloaded the proper fw!
I downloaded the XAC version. It says 4hrs til complete though -_-
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You're very welcome!
Next time you can use the SamFirm tool to download MUCH faster.
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You're very welcome!
Next time you can use the SamFirm tool to download MUCH faster.
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in 3 to 4 hours we will hear back.
all Canadian firmwares are the same and all contain multicsc lol
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oh and not before odin v 3.12.x fails and have to explain to use 3.13.1
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
You may be right. I honestly haven't researched that part of the build number.
Edit:. It appears that's correct. I can find a list of region codes, but ironically none of them include US region codes. But that has to be the region code.
The N60U1 firmware all show a region code of UE, and the carrier branded N960U show a region code of SQ.
Thanks for the info!!
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what i hate about samsung naming conventions is that they have at least 3 variation of them:
-device build identification (like on the oem box)
-firmware build identification
-csc build identification
and the damn country code is all diferent even if its all from the same place.
bober10113 said:
in 3 to 4 hours we will hear back.
all Canadian firmwares are the same and all contain multicsc lol
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oh and not before odin v 3.12.x fails and have to explain to use 3.13.1
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what i hate about samsung naming conventions is that they have at least 3 variation of them:
-device build identification (like on the oem box)
-firmware build identification
-csc build identification
and the damn country code is all diferent even if its all from the same place.
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Yeah, and it doesn't make sense. How is UE or SQ United States? Or North America? Or whatever region it represents? Hell, XX is Europe. Wouldn't EU make more sense?
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Yeah, and it doesn't make sense. How is UE or SQ United States? Or North America? Or whatever region it represents? Hell, XX is Europe. Wouldn't EU make more sense?
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because the laymen would understand. and korea is all knowing and powerdull
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Heyyyy lol, so I used Odin (3.12.3) and I was expecting ti wait a long time for the fw to flash, but when I pressed start, it showed green, passed, succeeded and rebooted into the setup I had previously, all within a few seconds.
Do you (or anyone reading) know why??
I was hoping to completely reset my phone and restore to the stock FW.
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Heyyyy lol, so I used Odin (3.12.3) and I was expecting ti wait a long time for the fw to flash, but when I pressed start, it showed green, passed, succeeded and rebooted into the setup I had previously, all within a few seconds.
Do you (or anyone reading) know why??
I was hoping to completely reset my phone and restore to the stock FW.
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not sure what you dled but firmwares are to be unzipped and odin slots filles with:
BL
AP
CP
CSC
in your case flashing only csc.md5 should work.
you need to use odin 3.13.1
but this is besides my point. all canadian firmware contain all carriers. so you'll just end up with a reset phone full of bloat anyways.
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so what carrier is your sim card from?
bober10113 said:
not sure what you dled but firmwares are to be unzipped and odin slots filles with:
BL
AP
CP
CSC
in your case flashing only csc.md5 should work.
you need to use odin 3.13.1
but this is besides my point. all canadian firmware contain all carriers. so you'll just end up with a reset phone full of bloat anyways.
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so what carrier is your sim card from?
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Yea I unzipped and placed each file accordingly. Im with Koodo (a Telus subsidiary (but its a Rogers phone so it doesnt even matter)
imatts said:
Yea I unzipped and placed each file accordingly. Im with Koodo (a Telus subsidiary (but its a Rogers phone so it doesnt even matter)
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just flash csc.md5 NOT Home_csc.md5
try taking a screen shot of what it says on the odin screen. and also get v 3.13.1
hello. my note 8 has android 8.0 version.
it is N950U version and I can not install updates manually. can you help me? ut is american version but I use it in europe. thanks.
felliche said:
hello. my note 8 has android 8.0 version.
it is N950U version and I can not install updates manually. can you help me? ut is american version but I use it in europe. thanks.
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This question has been asked and answered several different times on here. Please use the forums search function and you'll have a whole page full of answers.
MrMike2182 said:
This question has been asked and answered several different times on here. Please use the forums search function and you'll have a whole page full of answers.
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I tried finding this one too. Where do you see an example?
I got Note 8 that can't be updated, with the same model, but it doesn't say of which US company it belongs to, if at all.
On boot there is no special logo (only of Samsung).
AndroidDeveloperLB said:
I tried finding this one too. Where do you see an example?
I got Note 8 that can't be updated, with the same model, but it doesn't say of which US company it belongs to, if at all.
On boot there is no special logo (only of Samsung).
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What's your baseband version and build number version? You can find them in settings and about phone. Also what exact model is it and which firmware are you trying to use?
I'll admit I'm a noob, but I was wondering if there were guides or a way to flash the official T-Mobile carrier firmware on an unlocked s21 ultra by chance? If anyone can point me in the right direction please. Thank you and sorry if it's a dumb question.
fil.lujan said:
I'll admit I'm a noob, but I was wondering if there were guides or a way to flash the official T-Mobile carrier firmware on an unlocked s21 ultra by chance? If anyone can point me in the right direction please. Thank you and sorry if it's a dumb question.
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The SM-G998U1 is Multi-CSC Device (OYN). Change the CSC to TMO by entering the following code on the TouchPad. *#272*YOURIMEINUMBER# Select TMO then install.
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The SM-G998U1 is Multi-CSC Device (OYN). Change the CSC to TMO by entering the following code on the TouchPad. *#272*YOURIMEINUMBER# Select TMO then install.
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I had tried that, it states "unable to process request" Appreciate your help though.
fil.lujan said:
I had tried that, it states "unable to process request" Appreciate your help though.
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Is it a US Device (Snapdragon)?
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Is it a US Device (Snapdragon)?
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Yes. Sm-g998u1
fil.lujan said:
Yes. Sm-g998u1
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Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
fil.lujan said:
Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
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If that's the case you can download Tmobile firmware and flash to your device.
downloading/flashing Tmobile firmware to S20Ultra unlocked
I really want Tmobile's advanced messaging feature back. I downloaded Frija (to download the firmware images) My assumption is that since I have model number SM-G988U1 and want to flash tmobile's firmware I need to use SM-G988U with CSC as TMB to download the correct firmware. Is this...
forums.androidcentral.com
fil.lujan said:
Apparently I read with android 11 changing csc isn't allowed?
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Haven't read that, this post may help.
[GUIDE] Change your CSC on any Samsung Galaxy devices running Android 10 or older - will also work in Android 11 for builds older than January 2021
Hello everyone! I made this video tutorial regarding changing the CSC on your Samsung Galaxy device. This method will work for Android 10 and older, and Android 11 (builds older than January 2021). Credits to...
forum.xda-developers.com
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If that's the case you can download Tmobile firmware and flash to your device.
downloading/flashing Tmobile firmware to S20Ultra unlocked
I really want Tmobile's advanced messaging feature back. I downloaded Frija (to download the firmware images) My assumption is that since I have model number SM-G988U1 and want to flash tmobile's firmware I need to use SM-G988U with CSC as TMB to download the correct firmware. Is this...
forums.androidcentral.com
Haven't read that, this post may help.
[GUIDE] Change your CSC on any Samsung Galaxy devices running Android 10 or older - will also work in Android 11 for builds older than January 2021
Hello everyone! I made this video tutorial regarding changing the CSC on your Samsung Galaxy device. This method will work for Android 10 and older, and Android 11 (builds older than January 2021). Credits to...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thank you for your input, I'll check those out. Appreciate you writing and posting these.
fil.lujan said:
Thank you for your input, I'll check those out. Appreciate you writing and posting these.
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Once last question, forgive my ignorance. Once I flash from the unlocked version to the T-Mobile branded firmware, will I need to manually flash each update that comes out for T-Mobile do you know?
fil.lujan said:
Once last question, forgive my ignorance. Once I flash from the unlocked version to the T-Mobile branded firmware, will I need to manually flash each update that comes out for T-Mobile do you know?
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You SHOULD receive Tmobile updates once you're on Tmobile firmware and network but I don't think it's something that can be guaranteed. Your Primary CSC can't be changed to TMO and therin lies the problem. In the last couple of years Samsung has complicated firmware and CSC transitions on it's numerous array of devices. Lots of potential users lean to an unlocked device thinking they'll have more freedom of choice but it won't always end up as a benefit. I always recommend buying your service provider's device for full functionality but it doesn't always work out since some users tend to swap service provider's on a regular basis.
I'm on T-mobile's network, month to month, no long term commitment which adds flexibility but even being on their network I didn't aquire their Branded Device. I have the Hong Kong SM-G9980 variant. I couldn't care less about 5G, to me it's the biggest marketing scam since light beer. The only other feature I lose is Carrier Aggregation which much like 5G enables faster download speeds. I can easily have my laptop handle this and transfer files or data to my device. So there's no carrier bloatware, the bootloader is unlocked, I get updates from Samsung typically sooner than US devices and still have Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE via Tmobile. Most users don't do much research to define which device is best suited for their needs. "I got this great deal on an S21 Ultra but..." We can point the finger at Samsung as well, way too many variants leads to a lot of problems.
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You SHOULD receive Tmobile updates once you're on Tmobile firmware and network but I don't think it's something that can be guaranteed. Your Primary CSC can't be changed to TMO and therin lies the problem. In the last couple of years Samsung has complicated firmware and CSC transitions on it's numerous array of devices. Lots of potential users lean to an unlocked device thinking they'll have more freedom of choice but it won't always end up as a benefit. I always recommend buying your service provider's device for full functionality but it doesn't always work out since some users tend to swap service provider's on a regular basis.
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One last question. In order to go from the Samsung unlocked version to flash the TMobile firmware, does the bootloader need to be unlocked? Sorry for the numerous questions
fil.lujan said:
One last question. In order to go from the Samsung unlocked version to flash the TMobile firmware, does the bootloader need to be unlocked? Sorry for the numerous questions
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No
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No
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Thank you so much for all your help. I do appreciate you.
Hello did it work out?
TwistedTester said:
Hello did it work out?
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It did actually. Noticing my speeds are a bit faster and more consistent and getting rcs through Samsung messages to people even using Google messages on other carriers
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It did actually. Noticing my speeds are a bit faster and more consistent and getting rcs through Samsung messages to people even using Google messages on other carriers
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What did you do? What were the steps to flashing new csc? I’m on Verizon and I wanna go over to T-Mobile
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What did you do? What were the steps to flashing new csc? I’m on Verizon and I wanna go over to T-Mobile
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I downloaded the firmware from SamMobile and Odin then flashed it. I had the unlocked version I purchased from Samsung directly. when selecting the csc portion but it still shows the xaa portion as well. Not sure if I did it wrong but seems to be working for me. Putting it in download mode requires holding volume up/down and power. Every site I visited told the wrong directions
fil.lujan said:
I downloaded the firmware from SamMobile and Odin then flashed it. I had the unlocked version I purchased from Samsung directly. when selecting the csc portion but it still shows the xaa portion as well. Not sure if I did it wrong but seems to be working for me. Putting it in download mode requires holding volume up/down and power. Every site I visited told the wrong directions
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Oh okay okay, did you have to use Sam key after to switch csc? No right cause T-Mobile already worked.
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Oh okay okay, did you have to use Sam key after to switch csc? No right cause T-Mobile already worked.
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No I just did the firmware. Didn't do anything else with csc. Heard that's a pain in the ass with android 11