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Sorry for asking for fast help but I may be buying a (used, good shape) Nexxus One (via craigslist) and have an important question.
I have ATT wireless, the old, old "blue sim" ATT wireless (with a grandfathered plan I will not get rid of). Also added "unlimited mmode data plan in time before they cancelled unlimited plans (*this is not the iphone data plan).
I currently use a Nokia E51 (symbian s60v3, wifi, decent reception, works on 3G (and switches to Edge when 3G isn't avail).
I'm looking at a Nexxus One that is unlocked, currently on Tmobile.
Question is: will this nexus one work 100% (3g and edge) on my ATT account?
and/or - Is there anything I can do to make it work? (I'd like to buy it).
I'm just not sure a unlocked Tmobile nexus one is 100% compatible or will work on ATT (or can be made to work).
it's cost is making it risky so I came here in hopes of advice and help.
I hope this is the right forum section.
Any help here is appreciated and thank you very much
You will not get 3G. Only edge. T-Mobile and AT&T use different bands for 3G.
btw: here is a link to info on my Nokia E51 (GSM arena)
gsmarena.com/nokia_e51-2106.php
Am I correct in saying that nexus one has the same bands (3g/edge) as the E51 and should work well for an updated phone?
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Like I said, it depends which Nexus one. The AT&T one will only give 3G on AT&T, and the TMobile one will only give 3G on Tmobile. You can't change it, no way to hack it. If you want 3G, you need the correct version for your network.
I see, and thanks for the reply. i was thinking there is a hack/workaround but there isn't apparently.
Now, is there a like phone which still would fullfill my ATT needs (blue sim plan, 3g/edge modes, wifi capable, etc that I should be looking at...essentially like the nexus one)?
What about the HTC Desire (or is this the sam scenario)?
* again, i just can't leave this grandfathered plan, and I'm not a big iphone fan (enough to make me switch plans that is).
thanks for any advice
I just received a reply from a user on the ATT forums (very well versed with my blue plan and mmode, GSM phones) who stated this...
The Nexus One would be your best choice if you want to use AT&T Mobility's 2G & 3G network (they use 850 & 1900 MHz for both).
Now in regard to this used, unlocked Tmobile nexus it may be unusable for me...
but based on his reply, he seems to be saying an (att) Nexus one should offer the 2g (edge) and 3g band features (which I need).
Are we sure about the 3g or edge but not both in regard to the nexus one?
* got my eye set on a att nexus one (really, first it was the HTC Desire - very similar, but the band support was the concern there with the Desire)
thanks
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. You are not listening. The Tmobile Nexus One will NOT give you 3G on AT&T.
BUT the AT&T Nexus One WILL give you 3G.
You just need to get the right one. You just need to buy the AT&T compatible Nexus One. Not the Tmobile one.
You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capability?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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You need a Nexus One with the AT&T bands. They exist. I have one. A friend of mine is selling his in the CT area.
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Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
jojoatt said:
No, no...i'm listening, but likely not asking the question right.
I understand to get att 3g I need to get the ATT nexus one. Got it.
* And no, I will not be buying this tmobile nexus one thanks to your replies.
What I'm asking is in regard to 2g/edge ability here. Are you saying that a att nexus one will ONLY offer 3G and not offer any 2G/edge capapbility?
Others are saying it will also offer the 2G/edge capability as well as att's 3G (like with my E51 currently).
* see there are times when att 3G is unavil/spotty and the phone (E51 in my case) switches to 2G/edge. I just wanted to make sure the att nexus one offers this ability.
thanks
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My Nexus One with AT&T bands works just like every other 3G AT&T phone. It works on both EDGE and 3G. If you look at the bands it has, there's no reason it wouldn't.
You need an AT&T banded N1 to get both 3G and EDGE.
If you get the T-Mobile version, you will ONLY GET EDGE on AT&T.
That's the difference: the 3G bands are different between the two, but the EDGE bands are the same.
jojoatt said:
Can I inquire about this phone for sale somehow?
I was looking at this tmobile nexus one for $350, decent condition.
I'm very interested in buying an att nexus one (provided it's 100% working and condition isnt too bad).
thanks for replying guys!
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You can email him at t4show at gmail dot com
It's only about a month old. He bought an iPhone 4. Yuck.
thank you, i sent him an email. hopefully it's still for sale.
btw: what about the HTC Desire? issues with this on my ATT network?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
The desire does not have ATT 3g bands, so you will be stuck on edge. Recently they announced a usa desire which might come with proper 3g, but that phone does not yet exist. So no the desire won't work unless you just want edge.
well, your friend selling his att nexus one stopped replying so I have to assume he's either kept it or selling for a bit more on ebay/etc.
I can bid on a few on ebay that will likely end up being $500+ for slightly used, but can anyone tell me if I can still buy the att 3g version ffor $529 straight from google (as in if I order by this friday)?
or I should also ask: does anyone have an att verision nexus one they're selling?
Hello, I just received my unlocked HTC one dev. edition from the manufacturers website, and I was wondering which carrier would be better suited for the phone. I was reading that the dev. edition isn't well supported for T-mobile, unless the branded version was bought. Then I read that for an att plan, I would need to go to the corporate store in order to maybe get a plan if they allow me to. I would just like to have optimal speeds, with this optimal device. Any suggestions on what I should do?
ps. I don't know if this was addressed earlier but I tried looking around
My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
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Btw I live in the Chicago suburbs, and when I checked the 1900Mhz coverage on the T-mobile site, it was spotty all around the suburbs.
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Source.
elementur said:
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Thanks, I'm actually on my way to the store now.
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So I have been searching to see if all available T-Mobile bands are open and ready on the moto x for tmobile if I moto Make an AT&T version and then unlock?
I do not want edge so if HSPA and LTE are available then I am leaning towards this route. Anyone know for sure?
I bought an att moto x and unlocked it and using t-mobile from past 20 days and i am getting 4g LTE same as my previous iphone 5 did and signal strength i can say even better than iphone. I dont know about bands and stuff but LTE works on my end
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So I have been searching to see if all available T-Mobile bands are open and ready on the moto x for tmobile if I moto Make an AT&T version and then unlock?
I do not want edge so if HSPA and LTE are available then I am leaning towards this route. Anyone know for sure?
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If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
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If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
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This here is the correct answer.
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samarth1 said:
If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
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Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
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Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
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Believe me, I felt the exact same way and ended up doing the MotoMaker Unlocked route; and now I'm waiting to ship it back and just get the T-Mobile one. It really isn't worth all the hassle for the customization in my opinion. Dropping from LTE to Edge is a huge pain
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
raiderep said:
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
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Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
Maratu said:
Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
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No worries, if you want to stay with T-Mobile then the wait is worth it, this phone is sweet!
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No worries, if you want to stay with T-Mobile then the wait is worth it, this phone is sweet!
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I actually already have it on Verizon. Took a long look at myself after paying full retail for it to keep my unlimited data, and decided that I'd had enough. It's on its way back now, and my trusty gnex will carry on it's last breath.
AndreaCristiano said:
Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
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Devilicus said:
Believe me, I felt the exact same way and ended up doing the MotoMaker Unlocked route; and now I'm waiting to ship it back and just get the T-Mobile one. It really isn't worth all the hassle for the customization in my opinion. Dropping from LTE to Edge is a huge pain
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raiderep said:
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
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Maratu said:
Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
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I've got an unlocked AT&T MotoX on T-Mobile in Chicago, luckily the area downtown and surrounding the city are re-farmed 1900mhz or 4G LTE; guess I'm lucky so far because I haven't had really bad frustration dropping to edge.
Does anybody know if its confirmed when AT&T's exclusivity ends that T-Mobile will be able to have custom MotoMaker ability (in a month)?
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I've got an unlocked AT&T MotoX on T-Mobile in Chicago, luckily the area downtown and surrounding the city are re-farmed 1900mhz or 4G LTE; guess I'm lucky so far because I haven't had really bad frustration dropping to edge.
Does anybody know if its confirmed when AT&T's exclusivity ends that T-Mobile will be able to have custom MotoMaker ability (in a month)?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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If that's true, that sounds absolutely awesome.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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The wood backs and the custom engraving will be going live at that time as well, barring any unforeseen issues. They're actually already ready with the wood backs, but are taking their time to get it right so that when the floodgates open in November, they don't run into any issues. Verizon and Sprint are locked in for immediate MotoMaker availability. With the T-Mobile variant, since its the true unbranded & unlocked Moto X, Motorola will just be offering it as an option during the MotoMaker checkout.
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Sweet, thanks for that. A combo of the white with wood backing would be pretty sweet!
Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!
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Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!
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Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.
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Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
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LTE works in Europe although is not yet as widely spreaded as in the USA. But you'll be fine with 3G which is fast enough and most countries are well covered with that network. More important issue is roaming if you are planning to visit different countries. You must switch between different operators and even using service from the same operator in different states ( e.g. T-mobile) imply roaming charges. In my opinion the best solution is using local sim with best data plan and voip for calling in every country. If you don't want to switch sim cards, you may find the best roaming solution with prepaid Vodafone Italy. You can buy its clone online (http://www.motorhomewifi.com/product/europa-sim-roaming-data-sim-card/) and refill it in any Vodafone shop around Europe.
I know MetroPCS piggyback off of tmo, but does anyone have any concrete info whether the nexus 6 will just work as intended on metroPCS, utilizing the same frequency/radio band as tmo? TIA!
It'll work fine
But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?
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But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?
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T-Mobile and MetroPCS use the same bands and towers. The Nexus 6 will work perfectly on both.
However, when it comes to network saturation, T-Mobile Post-paid customers get priorizitation over MetroPCS, pre-paid, and MVNO subscribers. But that has nothing to do with the phone. The phone itself will work the same exact way on Metro as it would on T-Mo.
I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.
as others have said, it'll work. Screenshot attached shows speeds on LTE in the lower/mid-Hudson Valley, NY.
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I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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I have and it works 100%. I have a line on metro that I had my nexus 6 on which is now on my tmobile line for business and one plus 2 on metro but it works fully even HQ call feature. Every aspect works as if it was on tmobile so dont sweat it.
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metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.
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its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.
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its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.
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I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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i have no idea why their system is messed up. that happens, with every single company.
That explains things they refuse to admit. Sigh. Thank you.
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Yeah the MetroPCS compatible search is old and outdated trust me the N6(XT1103) works on MetroPCS
Here is another user with n6 and metropcs. Just got the microsim from their website and activated it with my imei number and done.
I'm on a Nexus 6 with MetroPCS and have no issues. With metro you need to call them to add the imei number of the device to their data base.
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When I had MetroPCS- WiFi calling (which I needed because Metro/Tmo don't have signal at my house) only worked for calling and SMS. MMS sending and receiving didn't work. But LTE and everything else worked fine.
Can anyone chime in and say if WiFi calling works with MMS now? I might want to switch back, especially now if they still have the 2 lines for $60 with 6gb of data promotion.