Hello everyone I bought this phone for the camera.
I have read a few different reports where people say the camera lens scratches really easily but other reports are saying it has scratch proof glass, which is it?
I want to keep the lens protected if easily scratched but these lens covers/protectors look like they will ruin the quality of photo.
Any answers or advice here please?
Hi, the lens is protected by tempered glass, keys and coins, even razor blade cannot scratch it.
And for a lens cover, I saw some on Amazon.
Recently, somebody here reported breaking the cover and had to buy a new one. The lens are probably more sturdy though.
Wiggums said:
Recently, somebody here reported breaking the cover and had to buy a new one. The lens are probably more sturdy though.
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I have my phone in a good protective case and I have a tempered glass screen protector.
My concern is the camera lens on the rear scratching so really I don't know if I should continue with a lens protector and lose some image quality or leave it off as the lens is pretty durable. I cannot get any factual answer either way.
I am not sure about posting a direct link to Amazon, but currently utilizing the kit available for $7.89 (by UPONEW) and do not notice a change in image quality.
Below is the product name:
"for Huawei P20 Pro Back Camera Lens Screen Protector - 2 Sets/Lot=4Pcs Dual Ultra High Clear Tempered Glass Back Camera Lens Screen Protector Film for P20 Pro"
Phone_Junkie said:
I am not sure about posting a direct link to Amazon, but currently utilizing the kit available for $7.89 (by UPONEW) and do not notice a change in image quality.
Below is the product name:
"for Huawei P20 Pro Back Camera Lens Screen Protector - 2 Sets/Lot=4Pcs Dual Ultra High Clear Tempered Glass Back Camera Lens Screen Protector Film for P20 Pro"
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I do have a similar product on my lens, some images look great but sometimes they look a little off in areas and cannot work out if it is this lens protector. If I know the lens has good scratch proofing I would remove it!
I scratched my rear camera lens within weeks of owning. Only a tiny scratch even though I have a decent case and have tried my best to look after it. Pictures are unaffected. You can get a new lens for very cheap online so I'll probably do that if it gets worse.
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I scratched my rear camera lens within weeks of owning. Only a tiny scratch even though I have a decent case and have tried my best to look after it. Pictures are unaffected. You can get a new lens for very cheap online so I'll probably do that if it gets worse.
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I worry about the lens protector I have on and picture quality, certain areas of my pictures always look a little blurred or lower quality. Is this a focus thing on camera settings or the screen protector do you think?
The only thing I can suggest is if you still have the second lens protector ( the link says 2 pack...) us to take a bunch of photos In various lighting, then remove the protector and take the same photos again so you can compare. You can always put the spare protector back on afterwards.
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Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.
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Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.
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You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!
I bought the Nillkin protector and used the camera lens protectors as well.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52353778&postcount=384
I put the Nillkin protectors on the device as soon as I could, dunno if they'll affect the marginal camera in this thing, but the inevitable scratches, which your experience bears out, sure would.
Squpix said:
You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!
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yeah. I complained to ATT about how it's susceptible and I shouldn't have to pay insurance for a manufacturer error blah blah. HTC referred me to the carrier I told them.
I use the camera lens protector thst came with the Nilkin glass protector
TieNN89 said:
I use the camera lens protector thst came with the Nilkin glass protector
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How is it? Mine should be in the mail when I get home later.
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How is it? Mine should be in the mail when I get home later.
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It's pretty good I'm happy with it
Except they could of made the protector a mm or so bigger and it could of covered the whole camera hole but I suspect they didn't so it would be easier to stick on
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Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.
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My camera lens got a large scratch on it within days of getting it, seems it's the same cheap soft plastic lens cover like all other HTC phones use, such a shame.
Lucky for me the scratch was just off the centre and doesn't seem to notice on picture quality.
To try stop any more scratches I got a martin fields screen protector, as they come with 4 x lens covers, 2 for each rear camera.
I don't notice any loss of picture quality with the protectors over the lenses, so is well worth doing.
I really wish someone would start making lens protectors on their own
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You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!
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How do people do this? I don't understand. I work in the oilfield... Lots of dirt, dust, and sand and have never scratched the lenses. Are you guys using the device naked? Not sure how else it would be possible.
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How do people do this? I don't understand. I work in the oilfield... Lots of dirt, dust, and sand and have never scratched the lenses. Are you guys using the device naked? Not sure how else it would be possible.
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Exactly what I want to know too. How is it possible? Never happened to any of my other phones. They wouldn't be replacing it for free if it wasn't possible.
It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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Div033 said:
It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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Same here. It arrived, but waiting for the replacement phone to come in
Div033 said:
It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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What are you using to clean it???!
A paper towel is *not* suitable at all!
Only a microfibre cloth OR lens pen should be used.
In a bind something soft-ish, i.e. terrycloth, could be used.
But never use a paper towel or napkin. Way too harsh for AR coatings, for example.
If the cover is loaded with silica dusts, these should be removed with a lens pen before using any kind of material to clean.
Otherwise you will wind up with tiny scratches that work similar to a diffraction grating filter creating "star" effects around pinpoint sources, lines and and other aberrations that will definitely mar your images.
The only remedy at that point is to replace the cover or remove it completely which puts the actual camera objective lens at risk of exposure.
Slickwraps are considering making lens protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52455851
I had an M8 replaced (unrelated issue) which had a bunch of scratches on the main lens cover. I treated it exactly the same as my M7 which didn't get scratches in the 6 months I owned it. I defs think HTC has changed something.
Anyway I got a lens protector with the Nillkin screen protector I bought for the replacement handset, but I mucked up the install so I took it off. Using the Nillkin one as a template, I cut out a circle from a spare M7 screen protector I had lying around. It's not pretty but it does the job perfectly.
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Slickwraps are considering making lens protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52455851
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cpufrost said:
What are you using to clean it???!
A paper towel is *not* suitable at all!
Only a microfibre cloth OR lens pen should be used.
In a bind something soft-ish, i.e. terrycloth, could be used.
But never use a paper towel or napkin. Way too harsh for AR coatings, for example.
If the cover is loaded with silica dusts, these should be removed with a lens pen before using any kind of material to clean.
Otherwise you will wind up with tiny scratches that work similar to a diffraction grating filter creating "star" effects around pinpoint sources, lines and and other aberrations that will definitely mar your images.
The only remedy at that point is to replace the cover or remove it completely which puts the actual camera objective lens at risk of exposure.
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I used to use paper towels to clean my camera lens, but after reading about how you can remove slight imperfections and scratches by using abrasive materials, I've switched to sandpaper almost exclusively. I tried using a napkin once, but the barbecue sauce (I thought the napkin had dried) got stuck in between the cracks of the lens and device. Needless to say, I don't use napkins anymore.
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I've never heard of a "lens pen" as I have the photographic skill of an untrained rock, but luckily am familiar with microfiber cloths. However I don't see the value in carrying one around as I had no such need with my GS3, a device made almost entirely of cheap plastic. I had no issue using the cloth from my T-shirt and pants pockets (soft, light material) to clean the screen and lens.
The current scratching is minimal and is not affecting my photos. But I know that unless I act now I will have those issues you mentioned. Whether its between buying a lens pen or carrying a microfiber cloth around, I'd much rather just slap a protector on it and call it a day.
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i just ordered this incase the Nillkin doesn't work out
http://www.slickwraps.com/HTC-One-M8-Lens-Protector-p/sw-htconem8-lenspro.htm
The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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A case that's raised more than the camera is what I'm doing. Have done this for years without ever having my lens scratch.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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When I pick mine up from the shop I'll be leaving the plastic on - my S4 has a gaping scratch across its camera lense!
Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
/ Magnus
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
Though I have not used any case or screen protector for the front screen, I have cut exact size glossy screen protector for the camera lens. I developed lots of scratches in S2 lens, from then on I started protecting camera lenses.
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If you look carefully the platic frame around the glass is just slightly above the glass so really the glass doesn't make contact with a flat surface
The Samsung s-view case is just big enough to keep the lens from touching. It's a good option if you are concerned about the lens getting scratched and want front of phone protection.
If the plastic cover doesn't affect the photos then chances are the odd scratch won't either..
Wife has S5 and glass on the lens seems pretty tough! No scratches yet!
When not using my Note 4, I shoot pictures with high end Nikon glass (lenses). Some will say to put a plain UV filter on the lens as a means of protection, never go naked. Others will ask why would one put an $80 piece of glass in front of finely tuned and crafted $2,500 piece of glass? Additionally, all those large sport photographer lenses you see taking photos.......no filters are made that size, they use hoods which extend several inches from the front of the lens as a means of protection. Now, given the camera in the Note 4 is not a high end DLSR you may not see the difference all that much, depending on the shot. However adding some form of adhoc protector over the camera will certainly cause some form of photo degradation.
If you have a phone case where the camera lens is recessed you should be perfectly fine if: (1) you pay attention how and where you place it down and (2) keep it out of your pants, bags...etc that hold keys and your loose change..etc.
Remove any added plastic or glass in front of your lens; take clearer and sharper pictures!
Goodluck
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
Well, my first tip would be to not place your note 4 on a textured surface, press it down into the textured surface and then rubbing it vigorously against it, with your pressure RIGHT on the lens.
Other than that, just use it normally. Dont keep it in a bag of quarters, dont hack at it with nails, dont keep it with your keys in a pocket... The usual nobrainer things.
Should be totally fine. When I place it on a table, the lens doesnt touch the table.
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Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
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/thread - really, the glass on the camera lens is the strongest glass you will find on your mobile device - applies to any phone.
Couldn't resist...cut out an extra screen protector and stuck it on the camera glass lol
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
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Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
DrDank said:
Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
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I liked it. Gad the halo effect though unfortunately. But loved the 2 little camera screen protector too! Easy install.
Sorry, don't d have much time to search, url anyone it could i get camera protection for otterbox?
What is the best protector for the main camera lenses?
We need something non degrading the images, hard and non interfering with the flashlight.
Some tempered glass come with protection for camera lenses
However, if you don't have any, just a simple piece of clear tape does the job
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What is the best protector for the main camera lenses?
We need something non degrading the images, hard and non interfering with the flashlight.
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I used the alloy protector for mi8 camera, u can found it on aliexpress https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bNfZgpNQ
I have bought this glass lens protector, it is like an adhesive you put on the lens. I thought it was glass. But it's nice because you don't notice it and protects against scratches on the lens. Recommended.
Does anyone know of a "Camera Lens Protector" that doesn't interfere with flash while recording video and taking pictures?
The builtin factory one... replace if needed.
I've always just got a case that stands tall enough to make sure the camera lens does not come into contact with the surface.
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The builtin factory one... replace if needed.
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Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?
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Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?
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You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.
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You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.
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The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.
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The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.
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I use the wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild for my display. "Self healing" urethane that last a long time and stays put. Something like that but with any added layer you increase the refraction index.
Other undesirable things can happen with uncoated and/or poorly placed optical elements like back reflections and flaring.
Who knows maybe Samsung optic engineers really knew what they were doing... don't screw it up.
People want to protect the lense protector... doesn't really make much sense. This isn't a high dollar front lense, it's a piece of ordinary glass or polycarbonate.
Lense protector protectors are a gimmick.
Worry about a good case and screen protector instead because you will need them.
As we know ultra has big camera island any idea to protect them? I saw some special etui but its looks bad imo. Maybe some tempered glass? Is tempered glass not disturb the operation of the cameras? I don't feel confident to put my phone down, I'm always afraid that I will scratch something
I think if you put extra layer of glass on top of cameras you will get extra light reflection in some situation.
protect it. I got my cover on ebay.
A plastic film/glas protector will alter the light hitting the sensors for sure and make it worse
Also, Mi11 Ultra have Laser autofocus, not sure how that will be working with extra glass or film on top of it.
EDIT: seams like there is no laser autofocus...there is DualPixel Autofocus: https://petapixel.com/2021/02/23/samsung-unveils-new-50mp-sensor-with-next-gen-dual-pixel-autofocus/
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Also, Mi11 Ultra have Laser autofocus, not sure how that will be working with extra glass or film on top of it.
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maybe someone will release a rear screen protector with holes for the camera, it doesn't seem hard to do
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maybe someone will release a rear screen protector with holes for the camera, it doesn't seem hard to do
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Some cases already have holes for the camera, in a few more weeks the case selection will be much larger on ebay , aliexpress and all those asian shopping sites
I ordered this one, I will let u know how it works.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002413657479.html
best option, imho, will be a sort of window that slide when i want to use cameras...