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P9 have a good update support in OS?

Hi guys.
I want to change my phone to P9 and android update is important for me.
You think P9 have a good update support in OS?or not?
Thanks

Armin.Android said:
Hi guys.
I want to change my phone to P9 and android update is important for me.
You think P9 have a good update support in OS?or not?
Thanks
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Huawei is never good in providing updates fast!

I think unimportant... So even Google is guaranteed for only two years OS update for their devices.
But if want to get fastest OS update you can buy Google Pixel.

Huawei suffers poor and old dune picture saying that the update are late! but his is no longer true in particular for its collaboration with Google and the fact of wanting to conquer the European market. otherwise so as we announced android nougat for year end we will be in the first to have it.

Official nougat update delayed

Hi Guys,
It seems official update to Nougat has been delayed due to some technical problems which were experienced by open BETA testers, see below source.
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-p9-lite-nougat-update-verzoegert-sich-wohl/
Well I think it's better to receive polished software even if it will take few more weeks. From the other hand I'm on B336 since beta project and it's working as a charm, no issues that could justify any delay like that on my phone.
Cheers!

Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.

SALVO9 said:
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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I agree, but in case of P9 lite we have new UI which suits me better than old one. Pure nougat is not big improvement, EMUI 5 I think is.

SALVO9 said:
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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Minor xD? Its more major than kitkat to loollipop

guys, for the huawei devs, p9 lite is not a priority any more, new huawei phones are in line and p9 lite sw is in background, any way, its not big deal to stuck on mm for now, you will get really tired from 7, i work in service shop and i tested p9 with 7, no big deal.
for me most important is to fix the jpeg engine on camera, to fix the sharpness on the photos, and autofocus on video.

June 2017, still no Nougat

Isn't it funny? :laugh:

Nougat is already available...

EE still haven't rolled out the update for some reason

Agitha said:
Isn't it funny? :laugh:
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Yes it is funny, that 5% of people that probably have branded phone cry all the time that they didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
Its annoying that minority make so much noise about it that for people who watch that from side its look like its some major problem, where in reality its just small group of people who didnt get that update because of their region or branding...
Also, again, to everyone who cry about updates: GET A LIFE. Update will not make your phone super-mega-ultra better, its juts a bigger number in phone info and few random UI features... What do you expect from updating your phone? You could have damn 4.0 in it that just look like 7.0 and you would not notice difference...

Akinaro said:
5% of people didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
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Source?

Agitha said:
Source?
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Simple statistic math system: look for posts of people who have and dont have update, and to make it better, look for other forums too. It should took you about 10-15min because of magic of search engines(obviously use key words to speed it up). Or if you check such forums often you will get overall idea of how many people whine that they dont have update and people who say that they have.
And because of standard statistic reasoning that most of companies use, one person typically have the same opinion as 3-5 others people in group, so we round it up to some nice number(you should easily have 100 person that posted if they have/dont have update), and after that you will get that only about 5-15% of them dont have update, and biggest part of them didnt get it because they have branded device or live in specific region where even other companies dont push update so fast.
Of course statistics are statistics. They say only half of truth, but they give you basic idea of something without checking whole group, like for example group of people that own P9.
Also you can take in to the account Official Google statistics regarding Android:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
And as you see here, only 8.9% of users have nougat on their devices.... it just prove that Huawei is not that bad at pushing updates, its just common problem with Android update system that google literally F### up at the beginning and didnt fix it for all those years(read: separating system components) :]

All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1 there are still 15% of us (according to your statistic) that didn't get the update.
If your company promised everyone bonus pay and in the end 15% of you didn't get it, you'd think that sucks too.
I've given up hope of receiving the update, seeing as the P10's been out for a few months already. And that sucks even more, because that means my Huawei "flagship" didn't even get ONE major Android update. And even though EMUI 4.1 is all right, there were a few features and improvements in EMUI 5.0 I was looking forward to.

guitarsmurf2501 said:
All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1
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So we should bash company because minority didnt get update, mostly because they have branded phone?
I got all updates that they roll out. And when you look at other brands and their update policy you will see that all companies promise fast updates and then for most of time they need to wait, OR WORST, they get that update but its bugged as hell and they need to wait even more to fix those bugs.
Also as I said, what do you really expect from those updates? Your phone doesnt work? it lack some features?
Because I had lots of devices, and Huawei P9 is not different here: new updates doesnt change much. More battery? More power? Nope. Most of people that say such thing say that because of clean install or lack of proper comparison(read: placebo).
All you will get is few random changes in UI that doesnt really matter in everyday usage and... thats it. Rest is just "something on changelog that you dont see anyway"

I'm not bashing anything.
You received all the updates and you think nothing important's been changed. Great for you. All I'm saying is: it's not up to you to decide what should or shouldn't be important for other people.
Some of the UI changes in EMUI 5.0 would make a difference to me in my daily use of the phone. But that's probably never going to happen. So yes, regardless of what you say: the fact that we still don't have an update sucks.

It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.

I think it's reasonable for owners of a machine that cost them the upper side of $500 to at least feel like the company respects them and is appreciative of their business.
You're right - updates aren't all that - however, they DO allow it's owners to feel connected to their devices, and foster the feeling that, yes, indeed, the machine was worth buying.
This is really the difference between Android and Apple and it does not help to excuse Android OEMs.
An update to 7.0 is not the same as an update within a particular series - it's a step upgrade to the current OS.
I also get upset with the constant whining for updates, however, it is reasonable, in JUNE for the Mate 9 owner to expect an update to Nougat.... And certainly to complain LOUDLY for not having received it. O is around the corner.
For Huawei and for the Mate 9, it's not too much to ask, PARTICULARLY when there are Mate 9s around the world that received updates half a year ago.
Let them complain is all I'm saying. People come here to feel like they've at least been heard. I know the frustration and sometimes just coming here and saying it, helps.
But also, really, if you had an update last month, don't come in and talk about how you'll 'never buy it again' because b300 has been out for at least two weeks, you've seen it, and the updates suck, you'll check again tonight and let us all know tomorrow. It cheapens the experience of an excellent phone and the hard work of the people behind it.
For those who haven't received the update, I'm sorry, I feel you, just remember you have a great, great phone - don't let the S8s and OnePlus's fool you, nor allow the lack of updates to degrade your enjoyment of the phone. The update will come, don't worry.
P.S. OMG - I've posted in the wrong topic...I thought this was Mate 9!! Oooops.

Why bash Huawei for it? In the case where providers didn't roll out the update, it is their fault, not Huawei's...

The update will come, don't worry. - Well no update since september 2016 when it comes to Vodafone Huawei P9, they keep saying they have not received the firmware from Huawei yet. Which means it's up to huawei to send the firmware to Vodafone for testing.
I bet most people debrand and update to nougat when their service provider seems to never be able to release an nougat firmware update because of huawei not giving it to them for testing. It should of been released months ago like a normal flagship phone.

I don't want Nougat anyway. All the builds I have used so far have been gash.
Quite happy on MM.

my advice is contact your local huawei support. I did a few weeks ago to be told that they have no intention of releasing the update in New Zealand to the p9 lite, and that they basically stopped supporting it in NZ last septemeber. This includes not patching the trustzone vulnerability. Have been working with the place I brought it from to get a refund

Agitha said:
It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.
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I agree, I got the P9 under EE... I couldn't believe no upgrade to nougat, and yes there is a big difference in the way new OS works with the phone... and the UI improvements help a lot in day to day usage of phone compared the crappy huawei marshmallow version... (very narrow minded of others to say you won't get any improvements..you do, I experienced the obvious difference!) .
I decided I wouldn't wait for the upgrade when I knew it was out... So I very very painfully upgraded the phone to nougat by spending stupid amounts of hours gaining knowledge. At the end I felt I got a new phone as responsiveness​ improved and the new emui 5 nougat OS was so much better and more usable. (fixed a lot of bugs)
So I feel for a lot of people who spend money to get flagship phones that never see the light of day with any upgrades/security patches, feels like we are cheated... Never owned (or will ever own) any apple ? IPhones but the OS ecosystem is rock solid... I wish the new OS version of Android that separates core OS from providers helps improve this.
Piece!

1 month and 7 days later - still nothing. :laugh:

I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.

Is it really? Why the issue? Are you sure its not the battery stats that need to re establish after a mjor upgrade?

alexs1mmo said:
I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.
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I thought this too but since updating to b386 directly (skipped 361) battery life is far better than on MM. Been browsing Reddit and Facebook n WiFi for 2hr 44min and still have 71% battery left.

Shall we do a petition for the EMUI interface?

Why shall we do a petition for EMUI interface?
I love huawei and their EMUI. But, there must be lots of improvements so they can get the TOP 1 best custom interface for Android.
1.Let us remove what we want.
Yes. Bloatware is a pain in our heads. For both performance and battery. If we had the opportunity to remove the Google apps that are installed in the system, then it would be a great thing.
2.Equal features on all phones.
I like the features included in EMUI, but there are different features for different phones. For example we don't have the smart touch, some screenshot gestures, night shot and so on. Having them is a MUST DO. And yes, our phone does SUPPORT all the features from other phones (except hardware-related features like honor 8's clickable fingerprint)
3.Optimizations
Emui 5.x already has some performance and battery tweaks already included in the software. But there aren:t enough. We still suffer of battery drain due to bad optimization of the Android System, which can be fixable very easily.
4.Listen to their customers
We all want something, but Huawei doesn't listen. It was a pain that they removed the firmware links from their websites (which it was a bit good to prevent fake software sd card updates), at least to listen to us. I know they want to become a top company, but if they listen to us and give us what we want in the EMUI or phones (as long as they can too.), Then that will be very awesome. Equal features and equal software (like how Apple does to their phones) then Huawei will beat Apple for sure in terms of software "updates"
So, who's with me?

Johnny TDN said:
Why shall we do a petition for EMUI interface?
I love huawei and their EMUI. But, there must be lots of improvements so they can get the TOP 1 best custom interface for Android.
1.Let us remove what we want.
Yes. Bloatware is a pain in our heads. For both performance and battery. If we had the opportunity to remove the Google apps that are installed in the system, then it would be a great thing.
2.Equal features on all phones.
I like the features included in EMUI, but there are different features for different phones. For example we don't have the smart touch, some screenshot gestures, night shot and so on. Having them is a MUST DO. And yes, our phone does SUPPORT all the features from other phones (except hardware-related features like honor 8's clickable fingerprint)
3.Optimizations
Emui 5.x already has some performance and battery tweaks already included in the software. But there aren:t enough. We still suffer of battery drain due to bad optimization of the Android System, which can be fixable very easily.
4.Listen to their customers
We all want something, but Huawei doesn't listen. It was a pain that they removed the firmware links from their websites (which it was a bit good to prevent fake software sd card updates), at least to listen to us. I know they want to become a top company, but if they listen to us and give us what we want in the EMUI or phones (as long as they can too.), Then that will be very awesome. Equal features and equal software (like how Apple does to their phones) then Huawei will beat Apple for sure in terms of software "updates"
So, who's with me?
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Huawei is not going to change anything just because a small group of android modders wants to have more control of their phone.
Just remember that P9 Lite's main consumer target were regular people which don't care about this.
They just want a working phone. Nothing more.

dariomrk said:
Huawei is not going to change anything just because a small group of android modders wants to have more control of their phone.
Just remember that P9 Lite's main consumer target were regular people which don't care about this.
They just want a working phone. Nothing more.
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You have my point.
But still, they promised that they will fix this and that, nothing happened.
One day, they will leave this phone on 7.0 and never ever get updates. I bet that.

Johnny TDN said:
You have my point.
But still, they promised that they will fix this and that, nothing happened.
One day, they will leave this phone on 7.0 and never ever get updates. I bet that.
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At least they released EMUI 5 kernel sources;
Anyway make a petition, you have my support but still i don't think that this will lead to anywhere.

dariomrk said:
At least they released EMUI 5 kernel sources;
Anyway make a petition, you have my support but still i don't think that this will lead to anywhere.
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At least we tried.
I mean, i love Huawei since i moved from TouchWiz lag to EMUI....i thought that maybe Huawei will be "community free" (listening to the customers too)
Anyway, how can i do a petition?

Johnny TDN said:
At least we tried.
I mean, i love Huawei since i moved from TouchWiz lag to EMUI....i thought that maybe Huawei will be "community free" (listening to the customers too)
Anyway, how can i do a petition?
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Idk, It's your idea anyway

you should rethink what you've posted!
They can't do anything about google apps for example because they are forced to implement them on a system basis - e.g. play store, play services, google photos and so on. Additionally the newer phones just have a different feature set because they run their latest EMUI version - which in my opinion - is thought out pretty well as they have to deliver a premium feel to the end user.. Why a company this big focusses on it? Well, they are pushing their last-available-smartphone-sales through it. Btw, did you ever thought about a hardware dependent feature set? Like those the screen supports and so on.
I have only one addition to your list - project treble for upcomming oreo release (which p9 lite SHOULD get aswell as the Honor 6x receives it by the end of the year).
Regards

OldDroid said:
you should rethink what you've posted!
They can't do anything about google apps for example because they are forced to implement them on a system basis - e.g. play store, play services, google photos and so on. Additionally the newer phones just have a different feature set because they run their latest EMUI version - which in my opinion - is thought out pretty well as they have to deliver a premium feel to the end user.. Why a company this big focusses on it? Well, they are pushing their last-available-smartphone-sales through it. Btw, did you ever thought about a hardware dependent feature set? Like those the screen supports and so on.
I have only one addition to your list - project treble for upcomming oreo release (which p9 lite SHOULD get aswell as the Honor 6x receives it by the end of the year).
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True. Oreo is much important right now.
But still, there are DISABLED USEDFULL features like Night shot, private space, app twin and those gestures from build.prop file. That pissed me off a bit... Because those features work 100% with no issues.

Harmony OS upgrade for P20 Pro in 2022 H1

promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html

I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device

I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device

This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi

Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.

You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:

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You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone

I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)

andrei80 said:
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.

Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494

There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...

andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.

EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t

Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.

Can you record phone calls with this OS?

this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading

In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though

not much changed, mostly control center in the shade

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not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change