hey y'all, so I have a clt-l29 from latin america (though i'm in the usa), and I have an idea of how to root for free and I haven't seen it mentioned here so I figured I'd ask if y'all think it'll work
before anything obviously back up your phome if you don't want to lose data
the first step you'll have to stay with me on: root with kingroot or another one click root service (yes, i know these can contain spyware; that will be fixed later)
^^^ I can't complete this step because the clt-l29 can only be rooted with oneclickroot, which costs money, so it defeats the whole purpose. but i know other p20 pro versions are supported on kingroot and kingoroot
the second step would be able to follow the guide at https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/alternative-method-unlocking-bootloader-t3799294 - retrieving your unlock code with superuser adb (originally i read another guide that didn't include all of the other steps, just the commands)
then just unlock it with fastboot, and flash the stock firmware again so the spyware is gone.
my question is, would this work? i can't follow through, unless y'all maybe know of a way to use superuser adb without root or a one click root solution for the clt-l29? has this worked for y'all?
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Hello,
I just got my new Xperia Z having used my ancient Iphone 1G for the last 4 years and I have no experience with Android and anything related to it what so ever. I've spent the last 2 days tirelessly working my way through various forums, guides, wikis to get an idea what I'm dealing with here and where to start, but there's an important decision that I could really use your thoughts and tips on.
After reading up on it, I decided I want to root my phone and this seems to be somehow connected to unlocking the bootloader and this is where I'm worried. I read the guide on how to unlock the bootloader and the warning about losing DRM Keys and the consequences of this scared me away from it. Now I'm left wondering, and this is my actual question here:
What is the difference between unlocking the bootloader and rooting my phone and simply rooting without unlocking the bootloader?
And in case the things I want to do are only available with an unlocked bootloader: how damaging is it to lose DRM keys and therefore the bravia engine and gracenote? What made you decided for or against unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks!
Hi,
maybe I can help you.
Bootloader is like the BIOS of a PC. It checks everything at start up.
Locked Bootloader only allows to run the Stock FW and in this case the DRM-Keys are working (everything is checked and safe)
Unlock the Bootloader means you were able to install an modified / other FW and then you loose the DRM-Keys (the manufacturer hasn´t checked the FW and it is in the eyes of an manufacturer "not safe". You will also loose your warranty.
If you unlock the bootloader Root is always possible as I know.
In this case the system is not from the manufacturer and unofficial modification could be done to the system. Normally all modified Systems have Root access. So you were able to do things that the manufacturer has normally not allowed. Modify system files or something like that. Also it could be possible to copy for example a downloaded and payed movie to another device. This is why you were not able to download a movie on the Play Store if you have root. On a locked bootloader the FW (system) does not give you the possibility to copy the movie to an other device and everything is "safe" (from the view of companies). No illegal copies are possible. (DRM-Keys)
Since some days Root is also possible on a locked bootloader.
The bootloader is checking the status (locked) .. then checking the FW (stock) ... DRM-Keys still valid.
But due to the root access you were also able to modify system files and apps can recognize that you have root access. So you can still use the bravia engine for example (DRM-Keys are ok). But the Google Play Store will still recognize that you have root and will not let you download movies.
This is my experience with Root ... If something is not correct, please correct me
UserX10 said:
Hi,
maybe I can help you.
Bootloader is like the BIOS of a PC. It checks everything at start up.
Locked Bootloader only allows to run the Stock FW and in this case the DRM-Keys are working (everything is checked and safe)
Unlock the Bootloader means you were able to install an modified / other FW and then you loose the DRM-Keys (the manufacturer hasn´t checked the FW and it is in the eyes of an manufacturer "not safe". You will also loose your warranty.
If you unlock the bootloader Root is always possible as I know.
In this case the system is not from the manufacturer and unofficial modification could be done to the system. Normally all modified Systems have Root access. So you were able to do things that the manufacturer has normally not allowed. Modify system files or something like that. Also it could be possible to copy for example a downloaded and payed movie to another device. This is why you were not able to download a movie on the Play Store if you have root. On a locked bootloader the FW (system) does not give you the possibility to copy the movie to an other device and everything is "safe" (from the view of companies). No illegal copies are possible. (DRM-Keys)
Since some days Root is also possible on a locked bootloader.
The bootloader is checking the status (locked) .. then checking the FW (stock) ... DRM-Keys still valid.
But due to the root access you were also able to modify system files and apps can recognize that you have root access. So you can still use the bravia engine for example (DRM-Keys are ok). But the Google Play Store will still recognize that you have root and will not let you download movies.
This is my experience with Root ... If something is not correct, please correct me
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Hi and thanks a lot for your reply, helped me understand the difference of both better!
If I only root but do not unlock my bootloader will I be able to do anything other than using custom firmware (ROMs)? Will I be able to install Apps that require root or install custom modification like the ones offered on this forum that need to be "flashed in recovery" if I only root not unlock my bootloader?
Also, still looking for some pros and cons (my second question in the original post).
Appreciate all your help!
root will give you access to recovery (in time - still in development) and you can install apps that require root access
custom mods - yes you can install them via recovery and some can be installed with root access and without recovery
if u unlock bootloader you will lose bravia engine not sure bout gracenote as i dont use it
you can check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154310 too see what have people wrote bout
rooting with unlocked bootloader
The main thing pointing me towards unlocking bootloader (I'm already rooted on locked bootloader) is being able to install kernels and major roms.
For example, you could flash Doomlords kernel and over clock the processor a bit, but you could also reduce power and save battery
The major roms I speak of are the ones that are kinda cross device: CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android to name 2. CM is based on pure android, no Sony changes so we can't flash that on locked bootloaders as it requires changing kernel. PA is same.
As for the downsides. I'm not too bothered about DRM keys. I use Spotify for music so don't think I need gracenote. Never watched a movie on my phone. BE2 isn't my cup of tea... Over saturates everything.
I'm going to look into DRM keys more tomorrow, but if someone can correct anything I've written then please do
Not being able to restore via Sony tools... Isn't that bad as you're going to be using flash tool a lot so you'll be used to that. Just keep a generic stick firmware .ftf around in case something goes horrendously wrong (usually recovery backup is enough I think).
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Nice thread, I had this question too
It's my first android and I guess I should unlock the bootloader and then root, this way I won't have to wipe my data later when I decide to try cyanogenmod or something else?
Also what happens if sony release 4.2? Will I lose my bootloader unlock and root?
Al Gore said:
Nice thread, I had this question too
It's my first android and I guess I should unlock the bootloader and then root, this way I won't have to wipe my data later when I decide to try cyanogenmod or something else?
Also what happens if sony release 4.2? Will I lose my bootloader unlock and root?
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I would say root without unlock for now.
When you want to try cyanogenmod or others. Just backup everything using titanium backup and then u can restore after unlocking.
Rooting with a locked bootloader means sony are not aware your bootloader is unlocked
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Thanks for all your replies, helped me out a ton!
I think Im gonna root without unlocking bootloader for now to get my feet wet and get a grasp of it's capabilities and limits. Can always restore the phone if I screw up and can always unlock bootloader later if I need it.
Al Gore said:
Nice thread, I had this question too
It's my first android and I guess I should unlock the bootloader and then root, this way I won't have to wipe my data later when I decide to try cyanogenmod or something else?
Also what happens if sony release 4.2? Will I lose my bootloader unlock and root?
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If you unlock Bootloader, you shouldn't update from Sony. Since you've (hypothetically) already unlocked, you already have 4.2 avaliable from FXP and if you really want the Sony Update maybe you could flash it via flash tool. Bootloader unlock will never be lost (until someone can create an explicit relock file, but customs roms won't relock it). Root maybe lost if you flash a rom without it but you should be able to get it back easy.
With locked bootloader, we have to wait for Sony to bring 4.2 as we can't access the kernel, but we retain the ability to use the official updates. If we're rooted and we update, we are no longer rooted and we may be unable to use the same exploit.
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I just want to root my HTC Desire 510 in order to use Xmod game assistant and just to delete bloatware. I tried using kingoroot, it said success, but it actually didn't even work. I found out that you need to unlock the bootloader. I don't really want to this, i have no interest in it. I was thinking of using Kingoroot's HTC bootloader unlock to unlock it, then root it using the kingoroot rooter, then re-lock the bootloader with the Kingoroot bootloader program. Is it risky? Please note my phone has no important data, it's new. And I do not want to install anything custom. Just get xmod and remove bloatware. That's all I need.
Would this all work? Please help.
uRager said:
I just want to root my HTC Desire 510 in order to use Xmod game assistant and just to delete bloatware. I tried using kingoroot, it said success, but it actually didn't even work. I found out that you need to unlock the bootloader. I don't really want to this, i have no interest in it. I was thinking of using Kingoroot's HTC bootloader unlock to unlock it, then root it using the kingoroot rooter, then re-lock the bootloader with the Kingoroot bootloader program. Is it risky? Please note my phone has no important data, it's new. And I do not want to install anything custom. Just get xmod and remove bloatware. That's all I need.
Would this all work? Please help.
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No this won't work and the number one reason is because if you root the phone and then spend your time deleting all the bloatware you'll be wasting your time if you don't install a kernel with write protection removed because as soon as you reboot the phone will reinstall everything! So you need to unlock the bootloader and then install the custom recovery and then make a backup first before doing anything else and then install the kernel with write protection removed and then delete bloatware!
Ok, I decided I don't want to remove bloatware. I am just rooting so I can download Xmodgames and such apps that need a rooted device. No custom ROMS or anything. Would I be fine?
uRager said:
Ok, I decided I don't want to remove bloatware. I am just rooting so I can download Xmodgames and such apps that need a rooted device. No custom ROMS or anything. Would I be fine?
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Yes. Although be warned rooting will restore the phone to stock after unlocking the bootloader.
Can you even use the phone if you make changes? What I mean is isn't the point behind a locked bootloader to keep changes from being made? So if you unlock -> make a change (rooting for example) -> then relock .... doesn't that equal bootloop when the bootloader notices you've changed something?
For my two cents... I'm probably more of a noob than you @uRager, and I got through the unlocking and rooting process with not too much trouble. I think the good old fashioned way will probably serve you the best. And there are several kernels that are just a modified version of the stock kernel (write protection removed) so a couple more minutes will get the bloat removed as well. Also don't be afraid to ask questions, from what Ive seen they usually get answered.
Can it? I don't have access to a pc so I can't really install any of the more complicated ones. And since we're probably not getting Oreo, might as well root my device. I just need confirmation if P9 can be rooted with Kingroot.
For the beginning, without unlocking Bootloader you can't affect Boot partition to get it rooted
you can root huawei p9 with kingroot, if your phone are on b136 or b166, if your phone are on never version, then you cant root it with kingroot!
It only works on marshmallow I think
Maybe you can root MM builds with Kingroot or Kingoroot, but IMO only upon you unlock Bootliader - for which you need fastboot from PC
Arnys said:
you can root huawei p9 with kingroot, if your phone are on b136 or b166, if your phone are on never version, then you cant root it with kingroot!
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Says here my phone is b393. Is there anyway to root it without a pc?
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blitzball said:
Says here my phone is b393. Is there anyway to root it without a pc?
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Told you, this is not old KK or L. You need PC (maybe MAC can do) for Fastboot commands
Btw, take Kiingroot/Kngoroot or whatever and try yourself
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Says here my phone is b393. Is there anyway to root it without a pc?
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Not right now
zgfg said:
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Told you, this is not old KK or L. You need PC (maybe MAC can do) for Fastboot commands
Btw, take Kiingroot/Kngoroot or whatever and try yourself
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Can you give me a link on how to root P9 with a PC? What do I need to do?
Please use Google and search for the corresponding threads/guides on XDA
Read them carefully and if you have furtger questions please ask in the correspondibg threads
1) Unlock Bootliader, same procedure for P9, Honor, etc
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-root-honor-7x/amp/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...ide-unlock-bootloader-twrp-root-t3405701/amp/
If Huawei site to obtain the code is not available, search again on XDA, somebody recently posted an e-mail address to ask for the code there.
Or search and pay for DC Unlocker
2) Do not use TWRP from SRK tool in (1) - it's for old EMUI and MM, flash TWRP for EMUI 5.01/Nougat:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/twrp-t3565703
3) Root by SuperSU
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/root-supersu-2-81-emui-5-t3612258
or search for how to root by Magisk
or flash pre-rooted ROMs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/rom-huawei-p9-magicrainbow-v4-t3759292
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/bluewei-test-crossflash-to-l09-c432-t3608270
Hello!
I unlocked and rooted my p20 pro with magisk. I have the CLT-L04. I was wondering if someone could help me figure out where to get the updated ota files and how to flash them with fastboot. I have done some reading although it is unclear.
Also unsure if it's worth keeping my phone unlocked since Huawei won't be providing codes in four days.
Best regards
Download firmware here:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teammt.gmanrainy.huaweifirmwarefinder
And flash via hurupdater
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/tool-flash-official-firmware-recovery-t3769279
And even you relock your BL, you can use the same code unlock it again.
Great thank you that worked. I can't seem to find the code I used to unlock my bootloader, does it need to be the same? (Not planning on relocking, just curious)
Also my live wallpapers have now disappeared? I would appreciate if anyone have the theme files.
Cheers
side_flip15 said:
Download firmware here:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teammt.gmanrainy.huaweifirmwarefinder
And flash via hurupdater
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/tool-flash-official-firmware-recovery-t3769279
And even you relock your BL, you can use the same code unlock it again.
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Hi there bro! Noticed that you might be from Manila, too. I am also using a Huawei P20 Pro and on the verge of rooting. Been using Samsung mobiles for the past 4 years and have rooted all of them. Got the P20 Pro 3 months ago and somehow I cannot go on not having it rooted hehe.
Here are some notes:
1. I got the unlock code for the bootloader 2 days before Huawei stopped giving them out last month.
2. I have downloaded the TWRP (praetorian version)
3. Got Magisk v16.0
4. ADB and fastboot ready for use on mac.
A couple of questions:
1. Is it a good time to root now?
2. Why do some unlock/relock their bootloader??
Looking forward to your pieces of advice. Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
denniequiambao said:
Hi there bro! Noticed that you might be from Manila, too. I am also using a Huawei P20 Pro and on the verge of rooting. Been using Samsung mobiles for the past 4 years and have rooted all of them. Got the P20 Pro 3 months ago and somehow I cannot go on not having it rooted hehe.
Here are some notes:
1. I got the unlock code for the bootloader 2 days before Huawei stopped giving them out last month.
2. I have downloaded the TWRP (praetorian version)
3. Got Magisk v16.0
4. ADB and fastboot ready for use on mac.
A couple of questions:
1. Is it a good time to root now?
2. Why do some unlock/relock their bootloader??
Looking forward to your pieces of advice. Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
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Hi,
to answer your questions:
1. Rooting is a personal preference. IF you're rooting to flash customs, there's no really available custom ROMs for this device at the moment. IF you need apps that needs root access and don't care about warranty, then root.
2. Not sure about his one. I don't see any benefit of locking BL aside from the disabling of the annoying "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted" warning when booting. Maybe claiming for warranty....
side_flip15 said:
Hi,
to answer your questions:
1. Rooting is a personal preference. IF you're rooting to flash customs, there's no really available custom ROMs for this device at the moment. IF you need apps that needs root access and don't care about warranty, then root.
2. Not sure about his one. I don't see any benefit of locking BL aside from the disabling of the annoying "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted" warning when booting. Maybe claiming for warranty....
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Amazing! I appreciate your input bro. I'll root later tonight. Thanks again! :good:
By the way, do I need to download newer tools for rooting or I have all the things I need?
Hi all, i don't follow modding world from a while so i don't know what happened more or less into the last 3 years, so now that i need to root the device i wanted to do some questions.
I bought a realme 8 pro at the dayone and now i have the last update installed (so realme UI 4.0). I wanted to do the root but i don't know how much realme support it, if the bootloader is locked or not, ecc. ecc.
I saw in this phone thread that there is a method (the guide is written in May, 14 so it seems very recent) about unlocking bootloader (so i guess is locked?) using deeptest, i tried to read but i didn't really understand what kind of thing is that. So i wanted to ask, what is deeptest? if it is locked, if i successfuly unlock this bootloader what happens to AIO updates? (I guess there will be no updates such as other devices?). If the AIO updates stop to work, Is there a way to manually download and install updates? Can i root this device using magisk for example? I have seen there is something, but there are these things i can't understand.
Thanks in advance for replies and sorry for my bad english.
Hi, yup, the bootloader is locked.
Deeptesting is an app by realme used to request an unlock code. You can try this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlock-bootloader-help.4425415/post-86777721
Try submitting your application, if it tells you "Your model doesn't support deeptesting" you'll have to follow my guide.
Either way, after a bit of waiting, inside Deeptesting → query approve result → start Deeptesting.
Doing this allows your phone to boot into fastboot. Where you can unlock your phone using
Code:
fastboot flashing unlock
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data.
Hi, thanks for the reply! So there is a method to unlock the bootloader. But if i do it, i can't update anymore my device via OTA, right? How could i do that thing. In addiction, is not possible to obtain root permission without bootloader unlock? Because i need root to save whatsapp messages 'cause the application is stupid and can't do a backup by itself.
In addiction... I downloaded deeptesting and my phone does not support it. Yeah
You can get OTAs if, and only if, you didn't modify the firmware. Unlocking itself doesn't break OTAs, but rooting/custom kernels/vbmetas etc. will.
You can't get root without unlocking. As per Whatsapp, I think you can use ADB to back up data without root.
Thanks again. As i know ADB is disabled for whatsapp from a while. Ok then, thanks anyway for all informations. I guess after the bootloader unlock i can install magisk to obtain root acces.