Bypass battery and use DC - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi,
I have a note 8. I had thought today that is therr any possibility that somehow when mobile is connected to the DC it bypass the battery and use the direct current instead of charging the battery and using the AC.
Means maybe we can have the toggle to get the battery charged or use the DC when pluged in.
Anyone can shed some light on this concept?
TIA.
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It already does that as the battery reaches 100%. Why would you want it to NOT charge the battery when plugged into DC if the battery is not 100%?
- R. Kruse Ludington
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KruseLudsMobile said:
It already does that as the battery reaches 100%. Why would you want it to NOT charge the battery when plugged into DC if the battery is not 100%?
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac
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Dear @KruseLudsMobile as i have heard if we use the mobile while charging it reduces the battery life. Like i play games and sometimes i need the phone for use but battery is needed to charge in that case i want to usw DC and charge it later once i have done with game.
Further the earlier statement of yours is not endorsed by anyone as overcharging may harm your battery according to alot android forums.
I would like to seek further clearance on this. And what you suggest i may plug in my phone at 9 pm and sleep and can unplug the phone at 9 am and there would be no effect on battery, is that you are saying?
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h30_u10 said:
Dear @KruseLudsMobile as i have heard if we use the mobile while charging it reduces the battery life. Like i play games and sometimes i need the phone for use but battery is needed to charge in that case i want to usw DC and charge it later once i have done with game.
Further the earlier statement of yours is not endorsed by anyone as overcharging may harm your battery according to alot android forums.
I would like to seek further clearance on this. And what you suggest i may plug in my phone at 9 pm and sleep and can unplug the phone at 9 am and there would be no effect on battery, is that you are saying?
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I charge overnight every night.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I charge overnight every night.
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And you sure your battery is fine?
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And you sure your battery is fine?
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Yes, LOL

To be thorough in our answer, we have two items here:
1. We do not know the details of how Samsung's circuitry manages powering the phone while on and charging the battery at the same time. Ideally they would be separate and the battery would still be charged while only the DC power supplied would be accessed by the phone for power usage to run the phone. On older phones I have seen the battery % go down even while plugged in to a charger if it is using something intensive like a game. Does that happen here with both generic chargers as well as Samsung adaptive chargers or Samsung Fast Chargers? If it stays at 100% while you are using it when plugged in, that is the best scenario because you are not using the battery at all!
2. Leaving the phone plugged in while idle for long periods of time such as overnight while you are asleep. In this case, overcharging used to be possible but with this phone (and all modern phones) there is circuitry in place which stops the charging when the phone is at 100% so this is not an issue.
Lastly, with Lithium Ion batteries, the life is shortened by A. draining it often as it only has a limited number of charging cycles, B. Draining it down to a very low level such as down to 2% or 0%, and C. Storing it unused for long periods when charged to 100% (that is why you see most batteries only have 50-75% of a charge when you buy it new - that is the optimal storage level when not used for a long time.
When reading documentation on batteries, be sure you read it from a good source and it is written recently (older documentation sometimes refers to Nickel Cadmium batteries (without saying so) which are very different).
I leave mine turned on and charging overnight, and whenever possible, keep it plugged in while in use. This gas prolonged the life of my phone batteries - mine typically last 4 years. Keeping it plugged in and using it while at 100% allows you to use the phone without even using the battery at all, and that really prolongs it's life because it is not using any of the finite charging cycles.
About charging cycles: draining the phone to 50%, charging it to 100%, then using it down to 50% again, then recharging it to 100% again - in that case you have used one charging cycle. Make sense? There is software on the play store that tells you how many charging cycles your battery has been through, called "Charge Cycle Counter". I've attached a picture of it from my phone.
Hope this helps...
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac

KruseLudsMobile said:
To be thorough in our answer, we have two items here:
1. We do not know the details of how Samsung's circuitry manages powering the phone while on and charging the battery at the same time. Ideally they would be separate and the battery would still be charged while only the DC power supplied would be accessed by the phone for power usage to run the phone. On older phones I have seen the battery % go down even while plugged in to a charger if it is using something intensive like a game. Does that happen here with both generic chargers as well as Samsung adaptive chargers or Samsung Fast Chargers? If it stays at 100% while you are using it when plugged in, that is the best scenario because you are not using the battery at all!
2. Leaving the phone plugged in while idle for long periods of time such as overnight while you are asleep. In this case, overcharging used to be possible but with this phone (and all modern phones) there is circuitry in place which stops the charging when the phone is at 100% so this is not an issue.
Lastly, with Lithium Ion batteries, the life is shortened by A. draining it often as it only has a limited number of charging cycles, B. Draining it down to a very low level such as down to 2% or 0%, and C. Storing it unused for long periods when charged to 100% (that is why you see most batteries only have 50-75% of a charge when you buy it new - that is the optimal storage level when not used for a long time.
When reading documentation on batteries, be sure you read it from a good source and it is written recently (older documentation sometimes refers to Nickel Cadmium batteries (without saying so) which are very different).
I leave mine turned on and charging overnight, and whenever possible, keep it plugged in while in use. This gas prolonged the life of my phone batteries - mine typically last 4 years. Keeping it plugged in and using it while at 100% allows you to use the phone without even using the battery at all, and that really prolongs it's life because it is not using any of the finite charging cycles.
About charging cycles: draining the phone to 50%, charging it to 100%, then using it down to 50% again, then recharging it to 100% again - in that case you have used one charging cycle. Make sense? There is software on the play store that tells you how many charging cycles your battery has been through, called "Charge Cycle Counter". I've attached a picture of it from my phone.
Hope this helps...
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac
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KruseLudsMobile said:
but with this phone (and all modern phones) there is circuitry in place which stops the charging when the phone is at 100% so this is not an issue
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I'm not sure if I buy into that. I've plugged many 'modern' phones (if we're talking after 2015) for extended periods of time (more than two months connected to charger) and the battery swelled up on all of them. Specifically I'm talking about my Nexus 6P, LG G4, Lenovo K3 Note and Moto Z.
I use some of these phones as an IP cam, and without a charge limiter set in place, it will all eventually swell. From what I've heard, the ASUS ROG phones and Sony phones are currently the only ones that bypass the battery when it reaches 100%.

NeonHD said:
I'm not sure if I buy into that. I've plugged many 'modern' phones (if we're talking after 2015) for extended periods of time (more than two months connected to charger) and the battery swelled up on all of them. Specifically I'm talking about my Nexus 6P, LG G4, Lenovo K3 Note and Moto Z.
I use some of these phones as an IP cam, and without a charge limiter set in place, it will all eventually swell. From what I've heard, the ASUS ROG phones and Sony phones are currently the only ones that bypass the battery when it reaches 100%.
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Fair enough... my experience the last couple of years (you are replying to a very old post) I've been using the Samsung Galaxy Note series of phones - and that has been my experience - leave plugged in or on wireless charger whenever near same... battery never swells and lasts maybe 3-4 years!

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[Q] How long does your tab 8.9 charge?

How long does it take your Tab to charge from about 0-20% to 100%?
It takes mine forever - about 16 hours, although I'm on stock Honeycomb rom
informale said:
How long does it take your Tab to charge from about 0-20% to 100%?
It takes mine forever - about 16 hours, although I'm on stock Honeycomb rom
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I'm not completely sure, but 16 hours seems to be too much to me. I usually charge over night, so i guess it might be something around 8 hours.
MAMUTHcz said:
I'm not completely sure, but 16 hours seems to be too much to me. I usually charge over night, so i guess it might be something around 8 hours.
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I think so too!
I just wonder what is causing this... (1) some faulty chip in the tab itself, (2) faulty battery, (3) faulty Samsung cord or (4) faulty charger. No way to find out for sure, unless I return it to the shop and wait about 30 days (at best) while they figure that out and give their verdict
I hope someone has\had this problem and knows what exactly was causing it.
informale said:
I think so too!
I just wonder what is causing this... (1) some faulty chip in the tab itself, (2) faulty battery, (3) faulty Samsung cord or (4) faulty charger. No way to find out for sure, unless I return it to the shop and wait about 30 days (at best) while they figure that out and give their verdict
I hope someone has\had this problem and knows what exactly was causing it.
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the last 5% take forever. That's usual behaviour for charging. Check out how long it takes to charge to 90% or maybe 95%. Should not take longer than 6 hours. If it does then maybe try a different charger or reset your tab to make sure it's no software bug.
Hard to tell the real source of error, sorry...
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain to be using the original, for your tab, charger, with a 2 amp output.
With such charger, it should be about 4 - 4.5 hours.
But if you are using a generic, or something made for an avg phone, with .5A output... Well 16h seems normal
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Mine is about 6h
I am using Samsung banded charger that came with the Tab.
Sometimes it does charge fast, but most of the time it either charges very slow, as though it were charging from USB, or doesn't recognize the charger, or even says it's established MTP-connection...
from 8 to 10 hours on hc 3.2
but now on ICS take less
using the charger that came with the tab, you should get charging times around the 4/5 hours. HC 3.1 and 3.2.
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I am using Samsung banded charger that came with the Tab.
Sometimes it does charge fast, but most of the time it either charges very slow, as though it were charging from USB, or doesn't recognize the charger, or even says it's established MTP-connection...
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Does the cable work properly when you use it for USB operations (file transfer, etc.)?
If so, then maybe the charger is broken/faulty. Samsung (in its infinite wisdom ) put a resistor network in their chargers so that the tab/phone can recognize a charger vs a usb connection ... or maybe just to make money from over-engineered accessories. who knows? However, if that resistor network has failed (or the cable is broken, hence the question above about USB operations) then the charger will present as a USB port rather than as a Samsung power source.
Oh! Another data point to consider: does gently wiggling/straightening the cable when it's connected cause the behavior to change?
prince93 said:
using the charger that came with the tab, you should get charging times around the 4/5 hours. HC 3.1 and 3.2.
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There isn't much difference with ICS 4.0.4 US rom in my opinion. And it is still picky what chargers it accepts when it's turned on (DX.COM charger works for me). I usually turn the TAB off and use a stronger charger, but it still takes a LONG time to charge in my opinion. I do an overnight charge as much as I can.
Did an overnight charge with the Tab turned off, and it charged to 100%, finally. But when it's on (even in airplane mode) it only charged to 60% last night (took 12 hours!).
Weird)
i always charging my tab from 0 or 2-5% to 100% either when powered on or off and it always takes 5 to 5 1/2 hours. no more and no less with default charger set.
first i thought it was taking too long but when i saw this thread i'm glad its only 5 hours
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i always charging my tab from 0 or 2-5% to 100%
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Common belief (knowledge) is that this is not the best for a lithium ion battery... It increases the wear, gets it to lose capacity sooner... If possible, charge your battery often, like as soon as you can below 75%. Only occasionally drop battery to 0%. IIRC, there's a good website called "battery university" talking about that
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charging
My P7300 takes 5-6 hours to 100%
fred_be9300 said:
Common belief (knowledge) is that this is not the best for a lithium ion battery... It increases the wear, gets it to lose capacity sooner... If possible, charge your battery often, like as soon as you can below 75%. Only occasionally drop battery to 0%. IIRC, there's a good website called "battery university" talking about that
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uppss my mistake. i read the article on the site and get conclusion that dont over charging or discharging ur battry better to leave it partly full and dnt forget to shutting down the device be4 recharge
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Thanks!
boscorama said:
Does the cable work properly when you use it for USB operations (file transfer, etc.)?
If so, then maybe the charger is broken/faulty. Samsung (in its infinite wisdom ) put a resistor network in their chargers so that the tab/phone can recognize a charger vs a usb connection ... or maybe just to make money from over-engineered accessories. who knows? However, if that resistor network has failed (or the cable is broken, hence the question above about USB operations) then the charger will present as a USB port rather than as a Samsung power source.
Oh! Another data point to consider: does gently wiggling/straightening the cable when it's connected cause the behavior to change?
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Thanks, used your post to fix mine. I ended up replacing the cable and not the charger. I'm using an original charger with a new cable now.
I am seeing same problem with my brother's 7300 tab as well. Its taking around 10 or more hrs to charge.
Anybody got tablet replaced in warranty for the same reason? Even with Nexus 7 original 2 A charger its taking too much time. With samsung original charger also it was taking similar time so i am sure problem is with the tab only.
4-5 hours on mine.
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Many Galaxy tab 8.9 owners have reported experiencing long charge times to the tune of about 16 hours, me included.
Solution:
Plug in the charger to the tab very very slowly. The charge icon in the system tray has a lightning symbol on it aka normal charge.
Connecting it at normal speed results to the charging icon in the system tray having a cross on it. It then charges very very slowly.
Why should we need gymnastics to normally charge our tablets? Ask Samsung.
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Some Galaxy Note 8 phones not turning on after battery hits zero

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-battery-problem-dead-charge-825899/
Gonna test mine today.
NIKKOTUASON said:
Gonna test mine today.
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NO! Running the battery down to zero is hurtful to the battery and shortens it's life.
- R. Kruse Ludington
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I saw this too and wanted to know what is going on. My phone has never hit zero and idk if I should test.
22jk said:
I saw this too and wanted to know what is going on. My phone has never hit zero and idk if I should test.
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NO! Running the battery down to zero is hurtful to the battery and shortens it's life.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
KruseLudsMobile said:
NO! Running the battery down to zero is hurtful to the battery and shortens it's life.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
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Well, I'm sure we would like to know if we have a defective phone or battery and get Samsung to warranty it while it's still covered. For me, I've never ran my battery down to zero, but now I will, because I don't want to find out when it's too late.
I ran into this issue a month ago. Couldn't find anything on the net about it. Wound up just letting it charge for a day. Never got an LED letting me know it was charging or anything. The next day, got bored...figured it was a paper weight so was gonna go to TMobile the nexy day to figure out my options. Had it plugged into my power bank. Sat there for the duration of a movie just switching the power bank on and off with the phone connected. About an hour after the movie was over I swear the red LED light come on. So I let I charge for another 4 hours and hit the power button and it actually booted up.
I was so relieved lol
Could there be any way to check if my phone might have this problem without actually draining the battery?
Curious, there any way this may be fixable by Samsung? May be firmware change to switch off at low battery?
This used to happen on my galaxy tab 4. I would do this to bring it back.
Someone else's word can describe it better. This is a quote from android central
"It's called Stack Charging. Some devices need a tiny amount of current to run the charging control. You get a few seconds of charging before the charge control system kicks in, so plugging in and unplugging about 30 seconds apart builds up enough of a charge for the phone to take over. I have done this before, more than once, to revive a seemingly dead device. Sometimes it took 20 minutes of plugging and unplugging - but it did work."
I think it's over hype.. Every note I have had, it's gone down to zero (never hurt my battery life), and I've had this one too zero a few times also already. Who knows, could be something in that software..
I saw them mention the same three senarios in like 5 stories.. And they've sold a lot of notes (mine included).. So, there probably are a few with issues of some type unfortunately. But I don't (hope) think it's the crrraaaaazzzzzyyyyy situation like the 7. If it does come down to that (which I seriously and personally doubt) I'm done..
Point is, wouldn't panic personally.. And I'm not going to..
Sent from my note 8...
Tested. No issues. Charging right back up.
Edit for clarity: after displaying the message, the device powered down.
Verizon variant.
Stock/not rooted
Snapdragon
I hope I have that issue. Maybe I can swap the phone then and get one without OEM issue.
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Which models # have this battery / charging issue ?
This is the actual statement for Sammy:
Of course, Samsung is taking all reports of this kind seriously, we only received a very small number of customer inquiries that could be linked to charge management, and unfortunately we can only comment on the matter further if we have more detailed information about the affected devices. If you have any questions about your device, please contact Samsung Customer Service at 06196 77 555 66 (costs according to the contractual partner’s terms for landline or mobile phone connections.) Service times: Monday to Friday: 8: 00-21: 00 clock, Saturday: 9: 00-17: 00 clock) or under: http://www.samsung.com/de/info/contactus.html).
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I have exynos. Had trouble getting it to charge after 0% 2 times in a row. Had to fiddle to get it charging.
I am now remembering that this issue is not so uncommon, I had a nokia n95, a nokia n97, a galaxy s3 that behaved exactly the same, if batt reached zero and autopowering off, I had to connect them for a while, then disconnected for another while, after that the devices charged normally, letting a device to reach zero is very, very negligent, So, do not panic, do not start spreading concerns about batteries, just take good care of the charge levels, most important, your battery will have a longer useful life
winol said:
I am now remembering that this issue is not so uncommon, I had a nokia n95, a nokia n97, a galaxy s3 that behaved exactly the same, if batt reached zero and autopowering off, I had to connect them for a while, then disconnected for another while, after that the devices charged normally, letting a device to reach zero is very, very negligent, So, do not panic, do not start spreading concerns about batteries, just take good care of the charge levels, most important, your battery will have a longer useful life
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Try telling that to my kids, who regularly let their phones run all the way down, no matter how many times I tell them to keep their phones charged and why they need to stay charged. SMH

Question about fast charging

Hi everyone, I'm new here with my Note 9 coming from a Galaxy S5. I have 2 questions.
I want to know firstly what (wired) charging do the majority of Galaxy Note 9 owners employ? Standard or fast charging? I am very weary of fast charging because of increased battery degradation.
My second question is this. I am assuming that fast charging increases battery degradation because of increased heat from the higher voltages. And yes I know that it is adaptive and gradually tapers off. I have run an experiment. I have installed a couple of battery temperature apps and charged through standard charging. Then I have put the phone on a solid piece of steel plate and charged through fast charging. The temperatures of the battery are identical. I have checked this a number of times. The steel plate even at room temperature is quite cold.
So does this mean that if I fast charge with the phone on a cold steel plate and the temperature is no higher than standard charging resting on a usual surface, that fast charging in this case causes no additional battery degradation?
Thanks.
Fast charging, most of the time
Fast wireless charging all the time. Even when it's in my car dock it wirelessly charges in that can be for 3-4 hours a day on and off depending on journey. Screw battery degradation I'll use the upgrade programme to upgrade next year.
Slow charging. I have the same concern as you hence I off the fast charging function. No diff to me since I charge my phone only at night when I am about to sleep. Do not require charging to be fast.
BlackCatSam said:
Hi everyone, I'm new here with my Note 9 coming from a Galaxy S5. I have 2 questions.
I want to know firstly what (wired) charging do the majority of Galaxy Note 9 owners employ? Standard or fast charging? I am very weary of fast charging because of increased battery degradation.
My second question is this. I am assuming that fast charging increases battery degradation because of increased heat from the higher voltages. And yes I know that it is adaptive and gradually tapers off. I have run an experiment. I have installed a couple of battery temperature apps and charged through standard charging. Then I have put the phone on a solid piece of steel plate and charged through fast charging. The temperatures of the battery are identical. I have checked this a number of times. The steel plate even at room temperature is quite cold.
So does this mean that if I fast charge with the phone on a cold steel plate and the temperature is no higher than standard charging resting on a usual surface, that fast charging in this case causes no additional battery degradation?
Thanks.
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If you plan on keeping your Note 9 as long as you did your S5 then slow charge with wire and also try your best to charge from 40 -80%.
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Samsung is claiming 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years (80% is normal). So there is little reason to hold charging to 40 -80% for the normal lifetime of a phone. And also LION batteries are never allowed to charge or discharge completely - it's hazardous. So Samsung is already limiting how much power the phone can draw or charge the battery. (So do electric car manufacturers)
^^^Interesting...
hankvb said:
Samsung is claiming 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years (80% is normal). So there is little reason to hold charging to 40 -80% for the normal lifetime of a phone. And also LION batteries are never allowed to charge or discharge completely - it's hazardous. So Samsung is already limiting how much power the phone can draw or charge the battery. (So do electric car manufacturers)
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A quote is worthless without a source, where did you hear Samsung state the phone would have 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years? Also I'm not sure you understand Li-ion batteries, they are allowed to be fully charged but not completely discharged, this is included in the mAh ratings. Also electric car manufacturers do infact recommend something similar to 40 - 80% charging, for example, Tesla by default do not charge 100%. Even Elon Musk recommends 30 - 80% charging: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/448466037441179649
I use slow charging. I believe it is quite fast even with slow charging.
If there is an option to choose whether you want fast and slow charging, note that fast one has some downsides.
A quote is worthless without a source, where did you hear Samsung state the phone would have 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years? Also I'm not sure you understand Li-ion batteries, they are allowed to be fully charged but not completely discharged, this is included in the mAh ratings. Also electric car manufacturers do infact recommend something similar to 40 - 80% charging, for example, Tesla by default do not charge 100%. Even Elon Musk recommends 30 - 80% charging:
Wow took 5 seconds to find many reports of the Samsung statement.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...ain-95-capacity-after-two-years.244370.0.html
hankvb said:
A quote is worthless without a source, where did you hear Samsung state the phone would have 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years? Also I'm not sure you understand Li-ion batteries, they are allowed to be fully charged but not completely discharged, this is included in the mAh ratings. Also electric car manufacturers do infact recommend something similar to 40 - 80% charging, for example, Tesla by default do not charge 100%. Even Elon Musk recommends 30 - 80% charging:
Wow took 5 seconds to find many reports of the Samsung statement.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...ain-95-capacity-after-two-years.244370.0.html
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Although I don't blindly trust what manufacturers claim, I did however test my wife's note 8 and used accubattery pro on her device from new. Unlike me, she would always topup her phone and also fast wireless charge. After a year prior to her trading her note 8 in for a note 9 I checked the health tab, I know it's not accurate however as a ballpark is stated her battery health was at 97% which isn't pretty bad for 12 months of usage. My note 8 was at 99% using the 40-80 rule approx 90 % of the time. If one was going to keep their device longer than two years I'd still recommend using the 40-80 method to prolong battery life. However most Inc myself upgrade yearly so it's all moot. I just do it (80-40) out of habit.
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hankvb said:
A quote is worthless without a source, where did you hear Samsung state the phone would have 95% battery charge capacity after 2 years? Also I'm not sure you understand Li-ion batteries, they are allowed to be fully charged but not completely discharged, this is included in the mAh ratings. Also electric car manufacturers do infact recommend something similar to 40 - 80% charging, for example, Tesla by default do not charge 100%. Even Elon Musk recommends 30 - 80% charging:
Wow took 5 seconds to find many reports of the Samsung statement.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...ain-95-capacity-after-two-years.244370.0.html
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And while I'm thinking of it. Why don't you substantiate your quote??

Galaxy Watch 3 heating during charge?

Hello,
My Galaxy Watch 3 heats up during charge, either on Samsung dual phone-watch charger or on charger which came with the watch. Is it the common experience?
Thanks!
no.
is this your first smartwatch or first galaxy watch? do you have LTE or BT only?
what was the charge % when you placed it on the charger?
wireless charging is very inefficient. its imperative that you place the watch directly on the coils or else you will experience some warmth. if you have an aggressive watch face that uses a lot of power, this may also contribute.
ive an LTE varian and always purchase the LTE variants of this brand and i have not experienced this. now if the battery is flat in the watc and ts charged to full, it will get warm - that in my opinion is normal.
I have the T-Mobile USA version. Several days back I was charging and also streaming audio via the web browser via LTE. Watch got rather warm and warn me it was overheating then powered off. I let it cool down no damage I guess running all of that code it's a little more than that little watch can handle.
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no.
is this your first smartwatch or first galaxy watch? do you have LTE or BT only?
what was the charge % when you placed it on the charger?
wireless charging is very inefficient. its imperative that you place the watch directly on the coils or else you will experience some warmth. if you have an aggressive watch face that uses a lot of power, this may also contribute.
ive an LTE varian and always purchase the LTE variants of this brand and i have not experienced this. now if the battery is flat in the watc and ts charged to full, it will get warm - that in my opinion is normal.
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Thanks,
This is BT version. Stock watch face with only battery level complication. I charge the watch on 20-30% discharge. Always precisely aligning with coil.
The watch does not became really hot - no overheat warning etc.
My only concern is that I've red that overheat kills battery.
I don't know if it also for Galaxy 3 since due to MIL standard it's made to stand up to 50 C temperature - the watch does not became that hot. I think it gets may be up to 40 degrees.

Question Charging habits with SiO2 batteries

Hello there! I wanted to open this thread to ask what's your opinion on proper charging habits with this Si02 battery that our Mi 11 Ultra's are equipped with. I have been reading a bit on the issue, but all I can find is comparisons between ASM batteries (lead based) and Si02 batteries.
Should we be using the same 15/20% to 80% rule with Si02 batteries?
The most I could find is that they are way more resilient to 80% DoD's than other batteries, so perhaps we can move to a 10 to 90% approach with them?
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I don't like leaving home without 100%
Replacement batteries are cheap but you lose waterproofing when you install one yourself which is a good reason to take care of it if possible
It's so hard NOT to reach 100% with the 65W xiaomi charger that i have
I also observed another thing, when charging with a slower xiaomi charger ( the one that came with the mi9 ) the temperature gets higher until it reaches the 90% mark than the 65W charger.
This was clearly observed via the Accubattery pro app that i use.
I'm curious to see hot it will be with the wireless (80W) charger.
Cheers !
Jhonxs said:
It's so hard NOT to reach 100% with the 65W xiaomi charger that i have
I also observed another thing, when charging with a slower xiaomi charger ( the one that came with the mi9 ) the temperature gets higher until it reaches the 90% mark than the 65W charger.
This was clearly observed via the Accubattery pro app that i use.
I'm curious to see hot it will be with the wireless (80W) charger.
Cheers !
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Given the fan the 80W charger has, I take it will probably run quite cool..!!
I am personally also using the 67W charger and even tho it gets hot, accubattery shows it as being completely fine.
That charging speed is amazing, and indeed, it rlly is hard not to reach 100%. I was using a 33W charging phone before and it was already hard to some point not going over 80-90% .
I am personally going to try keeping the DoD between 60% to 70% if possible, but I feel like this batteries deal with DoD better than Li-ion batteries
If you want to control your charging/discharging, I found an app on Play called Plug Sound. It lets you change a lot of system sounds, but will also play a warning sound when battery reaches High/Low charge %age.
The plugged in/unplugged sounds work well with my wireless charger so I know I've positioned the phone correctly.
Cheers
Steve
picitup said:
If you want to control your charging/discharging, I found an app on Play called Plug Sound. It lets you change a lot of system sounds, but will also play a warning sound when battery reaches High/Low charge %age.
The plugged in/unplugged sounds work well with my wireless charger so I know I've positioned the phone correctly.
Cheers
Steve
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Or, if you're rooted, you can install this app from the Play Store, that limits the charge to a set percentage. You can also find it on this thread. I've been using it on my OnePlus 6 and it works great, stopping the charge at 80% and resuming it if it falls under 78%. It's the first thing I'm going to install when I receive and root my Mi 11 Ultra.

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