Performance and app problems ? U.S. Version... - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I am finding that my apps that send notifications, specifically that I send through LIghtflow, are either not notifying, or doing so 30 min. to an hour late.
I am also finding that installing as well as uninstalling apps are quite slow.
POwer saver is not on; battery optimization is not on for the offending apps; they are set to run in the background.
Anyone else experiencing this? Or any suggestions?

Regarding the slow downloads, I am finding the download finishes (according to the status bars, etc), but it then goes into a state of Install Pending. Can't find anything on that.

For anyone who cares, I have it resolved for the time being.
After 2 factory resets, I remembered back to the days i used to root my phones, and remembered that one strongly recommended task in that process was to delete cache.
So I did a final factory reset and deleted the cache also and all seems to be good.
When this crops up again I will try the cache delete w/o a factory reset and see how it goes.

Not getting much help here but I'll keep this thread upgraded.
It is again not working right. Lightroom is either not notifying or it's doing it 30 minutes late.
Play store downloads but then doesn't install for a period of time.
I'm beginning to think something is wrong with the phone.

This thing is driving me nuts. Following is what's going on, and have seen:
I've gone through 4 factory resets. All works find at first. Having decided that maybe there is an app interfering, I installed an app or two, tested, repeat...with delays between repeats. All seems fine.
But then late into the second day, w/o any installs, I goes haywire again. Symptoms are:
I use DGT GTD for my ToDo list. First thing I will notice is that when I add a new task, it will NOT show up in the widget list, and at the same time it stops notifications.
All apps stop sending notifications to Lightflow...or LIghtflow does not recognize the notifications. Not sure which is the case.
When add a new app on the Play Store, it downloads as quick as normal, but then it takes forever to install.​
I installed AVAST, and checked for viruses. Came back clean.
I suspect it could be a phone problem. My Mate 9 works fine right now, with all the same apps. But, when a factory reset results in it working (at least during the short time a tech would evaluate), the phone can't be exchanged.
If anyone has any thoughts. I'm all ears. I'll keep posting, hopefully, ultimately, with a resolution. Maybe it'll help someone.

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FRF91 update is buggy

After updating to FRF91, I notice two things.
1) My phone froze at least 3 times since the update when I tried to make a phone call. I had to remove the battery and restart it.
2) My calls are now less clear even with my blue-tooth. When I call someone, they and I will hear static. Sometimes the static is really bad. (no, I am not holding it the wrong way )
Anyone have similar issues?
My Nexus One is NOT rooted.
stock 2.1 to FRF50(manual install)->FRF83(manual install)->FRF91(OTA install)
No issues here. Clean install.
I would agree it seems buggy to me also; it could be the manual update path of updating, but im def getting some wonkyness.
When im on edge at my house, it always seems like WIFI is on demand and not connected (This differs from what my phone used to do and i also have wifi to never sleep); so when i try to access something intially i get a network error then the Wifi connects; then i connect even though im on edge which used to connect albeit slow.
A slight jerkiness when I longpress to remove widgets; don't remember that one previously.
Very erratic battery life; seems to be due to network switching from 3g to edge to wifi; can't really confirm that though; not real rogue apps on my device that are running, but who knows.
Car dock has been giving some force close issues from time to time which didn't really occur previously.
FRF83 more stable
I was thinking of trying to go back to FRF83 as that seems more stable.
I will first try to do a factory reset and see what happens after that.
Falen said:
I was thinking of trying to go back to FRF83 as that seems more stable.
I will first try to do a factory reset and see what happens after that.
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let me know how that works out; I may do the same. Maybe go back and ota update.
I applied the full FRF85B when I did mine, and wiped cache / format user data from the boot loader. That cleared up issues.
gmail stopped working properly for me.
I have had some issues with my phone freezing up too but my trackball would still flash when i got alerts. I think it might be related to trackball alert because now that I have uninstalled it i haven't gotten any freezes.
I did the factory reset and I no longer have any problems. I am still waiting to see if my dialing still freezes randomly though.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I'm still on frf83 and found that flashing the frf91 gapps has somewhat reduced the freezes/reboots.
My XDA app freezes for a couple of seconds before it responds. Is this app up to date for frf91?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
1. Going into Gmail it takes forever to display emails (usually shows the "loading icon" for 10-20 seconds) as if it is only then connecting to the server and downloading new/old emails.
2. Caller ID still does not keep settings when rebooting.
3. Task Managers don't actually seem to kill tasks anymore. Have tried multiple with settings to auto-kill 10 minutes after the screen goes off ... 5 hours later the programs are still running. Obviously just KILLS battery life.
nexusdue said:
Obviously just KILLS battery life.
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Yeah, obviously, you're using auto-kill, it probably tries over and over and over when they don't actually close.
Stop using auto-kill. Even if it worked you will get less battery life by killing tasks. Read up about it. Only reason to EVER kill something is if it isn't acting nicely and has a bug that keeps using CPU or keeps the phone awake.
Factory Reset works almost all the time
If you got problems after update you should allways wipe (factory reset)

P20 Pro Vibrates Randomly

So, over the last few weeks I've found that my P20 Pro vibrates for no (known reason), every now and again. Usually multiple times per day.
I've tried turning it off and back on, killing the apps, checking for updates, turning notifications off on most apps.
Has anyone had a similar problem and /or has any way of diagnosing or fixing it?
I have experienced the same thing, so you're not totally alone if that helps. I haven't found the cause yet either. I suspect it might be WiFi+ vibrating when the source switches back and forth so it'll happen in stints for me.
i have the same thing and i think i might found the reason, i have some muted WhatsApp chat groups and it seems like that every now and then when i get messages in these groups my phone vibrates although i muted them . There is no notification but a short vibration.
Another thing that bothers me more is when receiving an whats app message my phone vibrates once short and after that the way i set it up in the settings...
I begin to get it after an update. hope to see a solution soon.
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I believe I've found the cause and solution to the Huawei mate 20 pro random vibrations.
I installed a notification logger from the play store and found that it was logging notifications of repetitive image downloads completing that lined up with every buzz.
If you go into settings, apps and choose to see system apps in the menu, you can force close the download and download manager apps. If you then clear the data and cache from each, you should find the phantom notifications stop.
I haven't had one in days now, and it was all the time.
I hope this is of help.
This happens to me a lot. Its mainly due to voice recognition thinking I'm am speaking to the phone. It happens randomly when watching TV, at work on even in the train. There's no specific key work that triggers it,. It happens at random. This is my issue with the random vibration but your could be a different reason although
Ereckson said:
This happens to me a lot. Its mainly due to voice recognition thinking I'm am speaking to the phone. It happens randomly when watching TV, at work on even in the train. There's no specific key work that triggers it,. It happens at random. This is my issue with the random vibration but your could be a different reason although
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Mine was definitely the download manager continuously redownloading Google photos images. Force stop, clear data, clear cache of the download and download manager system apps and mine has been fine now for a week. Try it!
Had the same issue months ago. Cleaning cache and data of stock download manager app solved it for me.
Mine started doing same yesterday ?
I have the mate 20 pro, and it's just started randomly vibrating with no notification
So my phone is now starting to randomly vibrate like bursts of short vibrations that last a while, but there's no notifications or anything? I don't know how to find the "download manager" to check if it's that. I'm not sure which apps to force stop. It's really annoying though.
Do you use Textra? Happened to my wife's s8 and she just uninstalled then reinstalled Textra to make the problem go away.
I have cleared the download manager and everything else several times, but it only works for few days even hours and starts again. I'm not sure if it activities itself again after I download something, but nevertheless, this just shouldn't happen. How can I disable download manager permanently (or preferably just the vibrations, as I assume DM is there for a reason)
Had the same issue. No problem from textra, for me it was google drive. I uninstalled it, cleared cahe and data and I am now using OneDrive. I haven't experienced any random vibrations since then.
Mate 20 X had similar issue after EMUI 9.1 upgrade and turned out to be contacts sync system app constantly trying to sync contacts. Force stop and cleared data and all good now.
I have the same issue on regular mate 20 since the last software update to EMUI 9.1.0. All the suggested solutions here did not resolve the issue. If someone has more suggestions please share
I fixed it. It's a system application called "Contacts Sync" disabling it solved the issue for me.
Settings > apps > show system processes > search for Contacts Sync > disable and force close it
humax1 said:
I fixed it. It's a system application called "Contacts Sync" disabling it solved the issue for me.
Settings > apps > show system processes > search for Contacts Sync > disable and force close it
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This didnt work for me, but i found another solution. I stopped almost all apps from autostart. except email and messangers. that immediately solved the issue and the phone boots much faster as well, nice sideeffect
You need to go into battery usage and then click on the individual app, then app launch.
I hope that helps
shingers5 said:
Mate 20 X had similar issue after EMUI 9.1 upgrade and turned out to be contacts sync system app constantly trying to sync contacts. Force stop and cleared data and all good now.
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I just noticed this on my mate 20x on 9.1 on vibrate mode. Did your solution permanently resolve this issue or do you have to do it multiple times or after restarts?
Pacman1969 said:
I just noticed this on my mate 20x on 9.1 on vibrate mode. Did your solution permanently resolve this issue or do you have to do it multiple times or after restarts?
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Yes it did. I force close it and disabled it from app settings. Never came back

Notifications Issue

Is anyone having issues with their notifications not coming through, or coming in super late, or having the same notifications coming up over and over? I'm expecting all three problems, it seems to be happening with every app for me except for calls and text. I factory reset the phone but that didn't fix the issue. If I restart the phone, then all my notifications that haven't physically gone into the app to check start pouring in. No idea what could be causing the issue and it's really starting to piss me off. I have already sent my phone in for repair cause my LTE data stopped working for no reason. I don't think both issues are related as I do have LTE data after they replaced some part.
Would appreciate if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks.
The Stig 04 said:
Is anyone having issues with their notifications not coming through, or coming in super late, or having the same notifications coming up over and over? I'm expecting all three problems, it seems to be happening with every app for me except for calls and text. I factory reset the phone but that didn't fix the issue. If I restart the phone, then all my notifications that haven't physically gone into the app to check start pouring in. No idea what could be causing the issue and it's really starting to piss me off. I have already sent my phone in for repair cause my LTE data stopped working for no reason. I don't think both issues are related as I do have LTE data after they replaced some part.
Would appreciate if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks.
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I had notification delays with gmail app, fixed it by turning off battery optimization for this specific app.
The Stig 04 said:
Is anyone having issues with their notifications not coming through, or coming in super late, or having the same notifications coming up over and over? I'm expecting all three problems, it seems to be happening with every app for me except for calls and text. I factory reset the phone but that didn't fix the issue. If I restart the phone, then all my notifications that haven't physically gone into the app to check start pouring in. No idea what could be causing the issue and it's really starting to piss me off. I have already sent my phone in for repair cause my LTE data stopped working for no reason. I don't think both issues are related as I do have LTE data after they replaced some part.
Would appreciate if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks.
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Some people may have battery saver on and this may cause late notifications. Also check in settings "auto sync", under accounts. I did have some late notifications issue with Gmail app and do know battery optimization usually is the cause, but it went away in couple of days after I bought the phone.
Thank you for the suggestions. I ended up turning on high performance mode. Let's see if that helps.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I ended up turning on high performance mode. Let's see if that helps.
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How'd this work out for you? This phone is horrible for notifications for me. It constantly doesn't send them until I actually pick up my phone, then suddenly I'll get 5-10 notifications at once. I've turned off EVERY bit of power saving that I can find. I only run in high performance mode 24/7 with all adaptive battery, power optimization, auto app sleep, etc turned completely off. I've also tried disabling all power saving and sleep in the specific app pages as well. I need to be more observant, but I think this is mostly with push notifications (ex, my 2FA app for work) rather than apps with timers to check for updates occasionally. I also have an issue with my wifi disconnecting while the screen is off sometimes which is highly annoying since my home presence detection is based on my phone being on the wifi, though last time it started doing that a reboot fixed it.
Unfortunately, a search proves that this is a widespread issue. At this point I've pretty much given up on this phone and am looking to replace it as soon as I find a suitable alternative. I'm just curious if it's a Samsung issue or a Pie issue that will occur on other phones as well.
The Stig 04 said:
Is anyone having issues with their notifications not coming through, or coming in super late, or having the same notifications coming up over and over? I'm expecting all three problems, it seems to be happening with every app for me except for calls and text. I factory reset the phone but that didn't fix the issue. If I restart the phone, then all my notifications that haven't physically gone into the app to check start pouring in. No idea what could be causing the issue and it's really starting to piss me off. I have already sent my phone in for repair cause my LTE data stopped working for no reason. I don't think both issues are related as I do have LTE data after they replaced some part.
Would appreciate if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks.
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Seems to be a general issue with android. Mine have gotten better recently. In addition to turning off battery optimization for any apps I want notifications for, i have done the following:
1. Wiped cache (under settings/app/storage), then rebooted into recovery mode and wiped the cache partition.
2. Gone into the setting and made sure apps I want notifications for are allowed to run in the background (settings/apps/select app for notifications/battery).
3. Allowed to run in background when on mobile networks (settings/apps/select app/mobile data/Allow Background Data Usage.
4. Gone into messages/settings/more settings/push message/changed toggle from "Prompt" to "Always".
Hope that helps.
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Seems to be a general issue with android. Mine have gotten better recently. In addition to turning off battery optimization for any apps I want notifications for, i have done the following:
1. Wiped cache (under settings/app/storage), then rebooted into recovery mode and wiped the cache partition.
2. Gone into the setting and made sure apps I want notifications for are allowed to run in the background (settings/apps/select app for notifications/battery).
3. Allowed to run in background when on mobile networks (settings/apps/select app/mobile data/Allow Background Data Usage.
4. Gone into messages/settings/more settings/push message/changed toggle from "Prompt" to "Always".
Hope that helps.
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Thanks, I'll give some of those a try. I also got a VZW update with the May security patch among other things right after I posted that, so we'll see if that helps at all also.
AJerman said:
Thanks, I'll give some of those a try. I also got a VZW update with the May security patch among other things right after I posted that, so we'll see if that helps at all also.
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It's gotten better for me. I enabled high performance mode but I had to keep going in and checking it a couple days after still even though it was enabled. Been a couple weeks now and the notifications I was missing before all seems to be coming in fine now. Time will tell though I guess lol
Are you also having trouble with apps updating? That was another problem I was having where I'd see apps needing to update, I'd start "update all" one app would download and then get stuck at 99% and it would just stay like that for about 40mins and prevent the other apps from updating. Then finally when it would finish the next one would do the same. It would literally take hours upon hours for 12 apps to update when it should only take a couple mins. That issue seems to be fixed for me now too.

Widgets not updating

My widgets are very slow to update. It may take him a half hour or longer to update. I have checked battery optimization is not on for those apps, although one of those two apps that I have the problem with background data is grayed out. So I can't turn on allow background data. Not sure why that would be great out.
Any thoughts?
Wunderlist Task List.
DTG/GTD
But, I did some things poking around, don't remember for sure what all, but I had read that changing the Animation Scale etc to .5 would help. I did change that.
Before posting, I had found that Wunderlist was on battery optimization. Changing it didn't appear to help, so I posted. But now, it seems to be working. Maybe it's fixed. I'll post back in a day or two and indicate if it is still working or has stopped again.
Well, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's the only change I made, and at that point it had started working.
Are you having same problem, albeit different widgets?
FYI... mine is now not working again. I'm not surprised. But am frustrated.
Update...
I am finding that it does eventually update. It feels like the phone has been taken over by something. But, then, other things don't seem slow.
I just installed Gsam battery monitor, and ran the ADB cmds to try to identify apps using battery. Maybe I'll find something using a lot of battery and hence cycles.
My battery does seem to be going down quite a bit faster than it should.
It cleared up for a while after a factory reset,But it's back, and, I find that notifications from Lightflow come in 30 minutes after recieved.
It's like the phone is operating in molasses.
I'm beginning to think this phone is crap. If I switch back to my old Mate 9 it works fine.
jd14771 said:
certain apps aren't syncing well with pie. i had this same issue with Beautiful widgets, could not get the weather or time to update unless i manually updated it.
Under <Problem APP's> App Info > Battery
1.A Make sure the app is allowed background activity
1.B Make sure the app is not set to "optimized"
. (note: by default, the optimized list will only show apps that HAVEN'T been optimized, . you have to select "ALL" at the top to see all apps.)
Under <Problem APP's> App Info > Mobile Data
2.A Make sure "allow background data usage" is enabled.
2.B Make sure "allow app while data saver is on" if you have data saver enabled.
. (enable this if you want to be sure an app will receive background data.)
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Thanks for the suggestions. I don't seem to be having any luck with that. Had already done those.
But!! ...
I just found a post after doing a global search for another issue I am having that seems to coincide with the widget issues, which is, Play Store freezing during updates. The post was in a Xaiomi forum. He said that he found if he had blue tooth on, his play store would constantly freeze. He turned off BT, and rebooted, and it worked.
I just did the same thing...and it is working...both the play store, and widget updates.
Interesting to have the great feeling of success, along with the frustration of a new (newly realized) issue yet remaining (BT).
Looking for a little further and through the settings on Bluetooth, I turned off Bluetooth scan. Now at first I would still have problems with Bluetooth on even though Bluetooth to scan was off. That of course would be very quickly after turning it on or off at cetera.
so this morning I get up having left Bluetooth on all night, with scan off, and everything's working fine. I did find last night that when I would first turn Bluetooth on even with skin off, the problems would be there. But of course when you first turn Bluetooth on it's going to scan anyway.
so I will update this thread little later after I see a little more about weather. Just having scan off actually cures the problem, in case someone else runs into this and it helps them.

Home screen weather app disappearing?

For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
EvanVanVan said:
For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
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Go to the Google app and tap the weather in the upper left of the screen. Then the options ellipsis "add to homescreen" and you'll always have access. Mine disappears at least 2 or 3 times / day then all of a sudden it's back. But I don't sweat it now with the home screen weather option.
Thank you, not a bad workaround..it still sucks to not be able to see the temperature at a glance on the lock screen though.
After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.
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After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.
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So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically
Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
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Clear system cache.
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Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically
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Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Hmm, yeah, for troubleshooting purposes I should also mention I use an always-on VPN too (wireguard to my home network where I have Pi-Hole setup). Initially, I thought that it could be Pi-Hole blocking related but after restarting my phone with it the VPN off a few days ago, like you said it still disappeared eventually.
lol fwiw, I sent a feedback message through the Google app describing the issue, maybe at some point they find the issue.
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Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
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Clear system cache.
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Thanks for the suggestion, Google App is listed as Active but some of others aren't...I'm trying to narrow it down more before I start messing with power management stuff. My phone is pretty much as stock as it can be
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Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Try a network reset... and clear the system cache (this cures many strange glitches).
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.
andybones said:
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks that you didn't get from the Play Store to G Drive or Dropbox or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now) and after restoring it, all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD
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I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks to G Drive or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now), and after restoring it all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD
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I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible
And just like that my weather is gone. Two beers at the local brewery and adios. I'll ask the Mrs. what the weather holds for tomorrow. Can I say, Ok Google you win, give me back my weather?
bobby janow said:
And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.
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This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
blackhawk said:
With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
blackhawk said:
I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible
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I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.
andybones said:
This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.
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All Androids share common problems and solutions. I cross platform searches between manufacturers/devices/Android versions frequently to find solutions... otherwise my 10+/Pie still be a mess!
If the issue still remains after a factory reset it just proves the original settings may be misconfigured from the get go. Putting it in Safe mode would have been enough.
You need to play with it and start looking hard.
Cross platform as I described when doing Google searches and use multiple search engines.
You don't see me posting threads about issues I have until they're fixed. I try to post solutions only. Occasionally I acknowledge a known issue as glitches are common... as are work arounds.
As for Android 11, you have my sympathy. A lot of 3rd party diagnostic tools were lost starting with Q making your task harder.
bobby janow said:
So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.
EvanVanVan said:
Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.
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I wonder if this will even be a thing when Android 12 comes out. As of beta 5 there is no weather on the lockscreen but it's not certain it will stay that way for release.

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