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I know there's talk of carriers blocking the recent update but my question is not specifically about carriers blocking updates but more so if people using HD7's unlocked to other carriers will get the update at all.
For example I bought my HD7 on Kijiji and it's branded to T-Mobile. I unlocked it and now use it on Wind Mobile here in Toronto (Canada). Wind Mobile does not offer this phone nor do they offer any WP7 devices.
So am I screwed? Or will I still be eligible for any updates?
I've asked this of windows mobile support, they didnt know but are looking into it and will get back to me
Even if it would be like that, I wouldn't worry too much as I'm sure that Devs like Football or Ansar will deliver the latest roms with the update in a near future.
I guess I'm worried because both my g/f and I are using our HD7's unlocked on Wind Mobile and neither of us received our pre-NoDo update yet
Hey Pistol i'm in the exact same situation as you, but from what i'm aware of Tmobile hasnt yet released the update, this was till yesterday. Someone on the tmo forum posted that they had takled to a tmo rep and she wasn't aware of any updates and that none had been issued out as of yet.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD7/HD7-update-from-MS/td-p/751241
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Hey Pistol i'm in the exact same situation as you, but from what i'm aware of Tmobile hasnt yet released the update, this was till yesterday. Someone on the tmo forum posted that they had takled to a tmo rep and she wasn't aware of any updates and that none had been issued out as of yet.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD7/HD7-update-from-MS/td-p/751241
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I hear ya except I'm not on T-Mo.. so I can't see that being my issue. Sure my HD7 is T-Mo branded but they aren't my carrier. So even if they "blocked" it I can't see that affecting me.
With all phones that I have used that were unlocked to a different carrier, they were all able to update over a wifi connection. So i dont think this phone will be any different. As long as the phone is able to go on the internet ether on wifi or data it will be able to update. But like i said this is just coming from my experience with other smartphones
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With all phones that I have used that were unlocked to a different carrier, they were all able to update over a wifi connection. So i dont think this phone will be any different. As long as the phone is able to go on the internet ether on wifi or data it will be able to update. But like i said this is just coming from my experience with other smartphones
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that's if an update was available, my nokia e71 is 3 firmwares behind an unbranded device as the carrier branded fw never got updated so the checker never found an update. Just saying... I'm hoping the same as the rest or I'm gonna be stressed
Well come to find out I just read that all you have to do is hook it up to your computer and start zune and it will update your software on your phone. The page said that I will not happen right away for everyone but soon you will be able 2. if you want to know more just go to this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913039 there is a link on there to the windows phone blog that explains whats in this update and how to update to it.
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that's if an update was available, my nokia e71 is 3 firmwares behind an unbranded device as the carrier branded fw never got updated so the checker never found an update. Just saying... I'm hoping the same as the rest or I'm gonna be stressed
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Read what i just posted right after u posted that
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Well come to find out I just read that all you have to do is hook it up to your computer and start zune and it will update your software on your phone. The page said that I will not happen right away for everyone but soon you will be able 2. if you want to know more just go to this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913039 there is a link on there to the windows phone blog that explains whats in this update and how to update to it.
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Actually the Zune software will only update the phone if the notification has been sent, if the carrier is blocking the update (win serial tied to IMEI / IMEI assigned to carrier / Carrier says these phones don't get update due to testing or we don't want it) notification is never sent.
That's how they can stop the update going to all the Samsungs that haven't been updated, as they know which Windows serials are on those handsets.
My unlocked HD7 only saw the update after hard-wire connection to zune. It certainly was a direct download from microsoft, though as the previous poster noted, there may be a 0/1 flag by IMEI or at least by model as identified/verified in the zune client.
Install was quick and easy at 1100GMT of the 22nd in Taiwan.
Suprisingly, the phone itself made no indication an update was available.
Cheers
i called HTC and they told me that i dont have to worry about the update pushed last week... i will for sure get the march update.. and i have to wait for the march update..
my zune is saying my phone is up to date... i am using a non telco set sold by HTC reseller in singapore..
i hear so many story about the update: some say its for the first batch of devices, some say its a test, windows blog site says few days to few weeks every one will get the update..
i have reset my phone once and reloaded zune twice... and if i will not get my march update i will send my hd7 to HTC and demand 100% refund.. and buy a telco set as unlocked devices are use less in a way..
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and if i will not get my march update i will send my hd7 to HTC and demand 100% refund
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Good luck with getting a manufacture to give you a refund off a phone they didn't sell you there buddy.
I went to a meeting with 2 Microsoft reps in my area and they told me that the big update is coming March 7th. However, it will still be based on your carrier when that update will be pushed out to you as they may want to do some testing on their end first. This may delay the update by a few weeks depending on the carrier.
Still no update for me..
unlock HTC HD7 (no tmob branding) bought locally here in the philippines..
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well, some of my friends got the update and some are also still waiting.
I listened to the WP7 podcast over the weekend, and the program manager for WP7 said definitely that the update will be available for everyone, and one of their primary goals was to have no forking or fragmentation in WP7.
We'll see. I'm in the same boat, and I have not seen the update yet either.
well i am in the same spot but i am not too interested in this update i am hoping that we will all get the march update in march and not june or july
And still nothing for me either. It's been 8 days since the update released and my g/f's HD7 nor mine has been notified of an update.
I'd hate to think I'm going to have to flash my ROM everytime I want to get the latest updates. I couldn't imagine having to set up my phone from scratch after all the apps I've installed and settings I've adjusted.
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My unlocked HD7 only saw the update after hard-wire connection to zune. It certainly was a direct download from microsoft, though as the previous poster noted, there may be a 0/1 flag by IMEI or at least by model as identified/verified in the zune client.
Install was quick and easy at 1100GMT of the 22nd in Taiwan.
Suprisingly, the phone itself made no indication an update was available.
Cheers
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I have a HTC HD7 from O2 unlocked and used with Vodafone, just had update
connect to Zune and check for update and there it was. UPDATE AVAILABLE.
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Afternoon gents,
I am trading my iPhone 4 for the HD7 but i don't get very good signal with O2, so i was thinking about buying the handset unlocked and then putting a Vodafone contract SIM in it.
But, will this affect phone updates as carriers control WP7 updates?
Thank you.
You will have to wait for O2 to push updates as it will have an O2 ROM on it (O2 splash logo, locked yahoo search etc).
The only way around this is to flash a Euro branded ROM using Goldcard (exactly what I did) or one of the other methods floating around in the dev thread.
What about buying the phone from one of the East Asia compaines?
Found a site which offers the handset for £250 - checked reviews everywhere and all have recieved their items without fault.
One would assume that these devices would not have the O2 ROM?
No problem with Asia Phone
I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
Edit: Of course it was completely inbranded
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I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
Edit: Of course it was completely inbranded
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What's the disconnect trick?
Did Zune tell you that an update was available?
Casdawer said:
Afternoon gents,
I am trading my iPhone 4 for the HD7 but i don't get very good signal with O2, so i was thinking about buying the handset unlocked and then putting a Vodafone contract SIM in it.
But, will this affect phone updates as carriers control WP7 updates?
Thank you.
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You'll be fine i bought my via o2 but same reason due to poor data signal i ported over to vodafone, and it works brilliantly, update is fine, recently HTC push the NoDoUpdate via ZUNE and everything is runing smoothly.
Same here, I've been on Vodafone for years but pre-ordered a PAYG HD7 from O2 then just got it unlocked and has been great since.
Granted I did flash the latest Euro ROM using GOLDCARD so have no problems with updates or anything but all in all very much glad I sold on my iPhone 4 when I did, thankfully found someone nice to buy it and paid what I did as got a Unlocked one straight from Apple when they first came out.
If i bought a HD7 from the O2 shop, how would i go about unlocking it?
Would this also remove the O2 boot logo?
(You'll have to excuse my stupid questions, i do computers not phones )
You could either pay a unlock site to give you a unlock code or if you know a O2 Contract Customer they can fill out the unlock code request form online and request one for free. If you do it that way it may take two or three attempts as some guys email back and say no cos it's a contract phone but then somebody won't check as much and just issue the code, know loads of people done it this way, took 2 attempts to get mine.
As for the branding NO it would not get rid of it, to do that you would need to flash the phone with a different ROM like a HTC Euro ROM using such as the GOLDCARD Method. This will not make any difference to your unlock status so you know so you can't unlock it by flashing another ROM, and you can flash as often as you want and it won't relock the phone, once it's unlocked it's unlocked.
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I bought my HD7 from an Asian shop on ebay. No problems whatsoever and I am also on Vodafone. I did use the disconnect trick and am now runing the nodo update with no issues. I also got my 16GB phone a LOT cheaper.
Crack on, it's well worth it!
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If you had to do the disconnect trick then it isnt de-branded.
The debranded HD7s got the update on the day of release.
I got my HD7 from O2, unlocked it through O2, and then left and went to 3.
I also did the debranded as said on here, which was nice and easy, and I got the nodo update on the day of release
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If you had to do the disconnect trick then it isnt de-branded.
The debranded HD7s got the update on the day of release.
I got my HD7 from O2, unlocked it through O2, and then left and went to 3.
I also did the debranded as said on here, which was nice and easy, and I got the nodo update on the day of release
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I assure it is unbranded and the update was not available on the day of release as reported all over the web. I have since however rolled back the update and received the official update with HTC additions via Zune.
I just got my new lumia 1020 yesterday and Love it, however, its locked to Orange UK/EE.
The phone has no visible branding whatsoever, other than.. In Settings > About,, it says "Carrier: EE", which is greyed out.
My question is:
With 8.1 being only a few weeks away, If I pay to have the 1020 sim unlocked, will I receive updates from Nokia on Release day or will I still have to wait for EE.
I know with Android phones, the Rom itself is from EE so the proxys and APN is still greyed out after unlocking, so you have to unlock device and flash an open UK stock rom to fully unlock it.
Does it work that way with WP8 as well.
thanks
Unlocking will only allow you to use the phone on any compatible network, not just EE. Other than that, you'll still need to wait for EE to approve updates, unless (as you said) you flash a generic UK ROM.
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Unlocking will only allow you to use the phone on any compatible network, not just EE. Other than that, you'll still need to wait for EE to approve updates, unless (as you said) you flash a generic UK ROM.
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Yeah, thought so.. Thanks for the reply. A few thoughts.. downside is, its quite expensive £30 - £35 to have it sim unlocked, which could go towards the camera/battery grip case. Nokias own App updates are coming through the store fine, so I might wait to unlock it and see if EE deliver 8.1 in good time, and get a nice case instead.
Hello everyone,
I really want a P20 Pro. I'm in the U.S. and would be using the factory unlocked Canadian ( CLT-L04 ) version of the phone via AT&T. It's soo much trouble getting this phone in the States. One of the things I'm most concerned about is getting the Android Pie update. It's supposed to start rolling out on the 10th, and I cannot find a concrete answer if I will be able to get it on my device. Contacted Huawei via facebook and asked and this was their response...
" Regarding your concern about updates; please bear in mind that, all of our updates are rolled out in batches according to the IMEI number and geographical region. If you own an unlock device, it will take a little more time to get updates. When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA."
When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA - That part has me concerned. Since I'll be on AT&T and it's not an officially supported device by AT&T, it sounds to me that I won't be able to get the update.
Anybody else in the U.S. that could help provide some insight on this?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?
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Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?
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Yea seems like it and you can always flash some unbranded firmware tho if needed
Thanks! Sure hope you're right. Just purchased the last one the seller had.
Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.
I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.
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I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.
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Well here's to the best of luck to both of us . Mines supposed to arrive tomorrow.
RiTCHiE007 said:
worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?
LonestarROB said:
Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?
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Its not that hard so just read this article https://www.androidpit.com/firmware-updates-huawei-honor and i think there is a guide posted in the p20 pro section on this forum also
Thanks man!
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That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.
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I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?
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I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?
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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.
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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.
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Check it when you get it.
But you'll be fine for updates.
So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?
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So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?
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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.
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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.
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My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^
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My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^
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Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?
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Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?
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I dont think so.
Because there are a lot of updates for my phone to firmware finder, which I think they're from Huawei's servers, right?
And since I boight my phone like a month ago, this is my first update. I was kinda stuck at 152 with July's security patches, and a while ago I received 159 with October's security patches. All I want to say by this is that if I'd receive the updates from Huawei, I'd have now the newest security patches, which is 161 version I think.
Who knows...that's just my opinion.
Been seeing stories that the October security update was pushed by Samsung for the S20 FE. I've got the USA unlocked model and haven't seen any updates yet. Have they pushed it in the USA yet? Have any of the big carriers pushed it yet?
I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I don't think that's the issue. The only country the update is being pushed out to at the moment is Germany from what I read on another web site. Hopefully we will be getting it stateside soon. If you have an unlocked like myself then your carrier does not have anything to do with firmware updates.
get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
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get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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cant find the U1 firmware yet, but here is the G781B fw https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s20-fe/firmware/#SM-G781B
very likely need patched Odin to flash it. Buyer beware tho, if the U1 FW isnt out yet and you successfully flash any of these, you cant go back until the FW is released
I received ATJ5 update earlier when I manually checked for updates. Seems stable. Touchscreen issues seem much much better so far.
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October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
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NOT for me. I'm on USA unlocked and just checked. Nothing.
Nothing yet on my USA T-mobile version
Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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So, I've noticed that for some reason Samsung unlocked devices seem to get their updates pushed immediately AFTER the big 3 carriers have pushed their updates for some reason.
I'm using the Unlocked version on ATT, and I received the October security update on the 24th. Touch issues do seem improved, no complaints so far.
I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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That's both crazy and annoying, but having been with T-Mobile for a few years I can't say I'm surprised. They've been last to the party more often than not when it comes to updates. Do you know if T-Mobile has pushed the October update to the T-Mobile (non-unlocked) variant of this device?? I bet they haven't yet.
I just successfully forced the update, see my new thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20-fe/help/successfully-forced-october-update-t4183325