Currently I have Xiaomi Mi 8. But recently there are some interesting offers for second hand Google Pixel 2 XL for about 390.5 USD. Quite confusing because Xiaomi Mi 8 has newer chipset (SD 845), better display (Samsung AMOLED vs LG p-OLED), and larger RAM (6 GB vs 4 GB). But in the other hand Google Pixel 2 XL has much stronger camera, stock Android, it's like a dream device. I'm just a casual user (messenger, social media, browsing, Spotify, taking some photos for Instagram feed) What's your opinion? Should I keep my Xiaomi Mi 8 or goes to second hand Pixel 2 XL?
Or try Pixel experience Rom and enjoy the best of both worlds?
Assuming it's a global device you can still relock the bootloader and sell it afterwards if you didn't like it.
keep ur money and the mi8 wait for snapdragons 855 is around the corner .....oled from pixel 2s are tend to burn easily aswell the pixel 3s ......i own mi8 6/128 currently running havoc build 12/24/ sphinx 2.0 / stock google gapps .....batt last me 20-30 hours... on sot 5-7 .... and there you have an way better overpriced pixel device the camera from mi8 is also superior just need few tweaks.
the only thing i deslike from mi8 is the size...they went from 5"0 inch to 6"2 inche (to big) ....notch aahh ...few subtratums overlay to show 4 notification remove the clock... and keep wifi/signal/batt+ % and u can live whit it ......
waiting for another xiaomi 855 device mi mix 3 5g (to delicate it wont last me an week before i break it )will see mi 9 hopefully an punch hole if is an water drop notch ill keep mi8 mean time
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keep ur money and the mi8 wait for snapdragons 855 is around the corner .....oled from pixel 2s are tend to burn easily aswell the pixel 3s ......i own mi8 6/128 currently running havoc build 12/24/ sphinx 2.0 / stock google gapps .....batt last me 20-30 hours... on sot 5-7 .... and there you have an way better overpriced pixel device the camera from mi8 is also superior just need few tweaks.
the only thing i deslike from mi8 is the size...they went from 5"0 inch to 6"2 inche (to big) ....notch aahh ...few subtratums overlay to show 4 notification remove the clock... and keep wifi/signal/batt+ % and u can live whit it ......
waiting for another xiaomi 855 device mi mix 3 5g (to delicate it wont last me an week before i break it )will see mi 9 hopefully an punch hole if is an water drop notch ill keep mi8 mean time
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Already read about Havoc. Have you update it to the latest build? And what bugs?
It depends on what do you want from a phone. If you use the social/camera part of a gadget, then go for the pixel. If not, keep the Mi8. I had to choose from the same 2 phones and I went with the Mi8. I will upgrade to mi mix 3 in the summer
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It depends on what do you want from a phone. If you use the social/camera part of a gadget, then go for the pixel. If not, keep the Mi8. I had to choose from the same 2 phones and I went with the Mi8. I will upgrade to mi mix 3 in the summer
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What do you consider so you pick Mi 8 at the end?
The screen , the gestures of miui9(at that time), the infra red unlock in pitch black, the performance. Not a fan of the notch, but i accept it because it houses sensors and suprinsingly , a very good camera. Also was very suprised by the dual camera on the back.
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Hi there,
The Xiaomi Mi Note Pro has been out for a year now. Has anyone any info on an upgraded or new version?
I'm looking for a 5.7 device and really like this, but (knowing my luck), I'll order and the next week Xiaomi will release info on a new model !
Thanks
do you want my opinion wait and see for one plus 3
I think asus zenfone 3 deluxe must be the mobile what you want, im waiting for it and some revew of zf 3 deluxe, sd820, 5.7" FHD 6RAM... sound so great
I would personally go with nexus 6p over the current mi note pro. As a previous amoled user, I find it the screen to be pretty dim on my MNP.
Unless you are happy with running miui, I would stay clear from this. Another thing, I should add, phone definitely heats up when running asop and early miui roms. I do not care what other user say but having the phone on charge and trying to talk to someone whilst putting the phone next to your years gets extremely hot and uncomfortable.
I would wait for one plus or even the nexus 6
PS: I'm running mokee rom.
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The Xiaomi Mi Note Pro has been out for a year now. Has anyone any info on an upgraded or new version?
I'm looking for a 5.7 device and really like this, but (knowing my luck), I'll order and the next week Xiaomi will release info on a new model !
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There is a rumor that Mi Note 2 will be released mid-July, together with the Xiaomi laptop. The latest news on it: http://mobile.it168.com/a2016/0530/2672/000002672797.shtml
The specs are supposedly: SD823 (MSM8996 Pro), 4/6 GB RAM, 32-256 GB ROM, Sony IMX378 sensor, 12 Mpx camera with laser autofocus, screen resolution and size same as the predecessor, iris recognition. Pricing is supposed to start at 3299 CNY for the cheapest version.
Mi Note Pro still a very good phone except perhaps for camera
Gurusev_Uppal said:
I would personally go with nexus 6p over the current mi note pro. As a previous amoled user, I find it the screen to be pretty dim on my MNP.
Unless you are happy with running miui, I would stay clear from this. Another thing, I should add, phone definitely heats up when running asop and early miui roms. I do not care what other user say but having the phone on charge and trying to talk to someone whilst putting the phone next to your years gets extremely hot and uncomfortable.
I would wait for one plus or even the nexus 6
PS: I'm running mokee rom.
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I also have both, Mi Note Pro and Nexus 6p. Nexus 6p is a little bit faster (probably because of stock android) and has a better camera, but overall i still prefer the Mi Note pro. The 6p is thicker, heavier and bulkier and the sound quality on it (which is very important to me) is complete ****, while on the Note pro the sound is absolutely brilliant (over headphones of course, speakers are better on 6p). Screen is a little brighter on the 6p, but they`re both too dark in sunny weather for me. I also love MIUI, did even install a MIUI launcher on my 6p . I think it comes down to preferences. Both are great devices, but there`s one major downside to the Note Pro, which is the battery life.
steve1221 said:
Hi there,
The Xiaomi Mi Note Pro has been out for a year now. Has anyone any info on an upgraded or new version?
I'm looking for a 5.7 device and really like this, but (knowing my luck), I'll order and the next week Xiaomi will release info on a new model !
Thanks
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An event is planned this month... there are rumors of a new flagship.
mipro is a good phone except the software sucks (both miui and unoficial roms). for exemple semi-official (i believe he is a miui developper) ivan aosp rom 6.0.1 is using april security patchs lol and no updates... and others roms are worst and bugged. yea i would take the 6p only because of the software part, i have bought 3 phones from xiaomi and it's the LAST TIME.
So I am willing to buy a new phone and the Mi A2 (4gb/64gb) and Redmi note 7(3gb/32gb - the one with SD 660 and 48mp camera, a.k.a. Redmi note 7s in India) are almost identical in price in my region .They both fit perfectly into my budget and are great devices. So I am confused about which one to choose. Hence I request you guys to help me in deciding which one to buy.
- With Mi A2, you'd be disappointed with the battery life.
- There's a bug in Mi A2 which causes slow eMMC write speeds in the 4 GB, 64 GB variant. Before I moved to a Mi A2, users warned me even so much as to completely avoid buying the A2 since it was so frustrating for them.
- I bought Mi A2 a week ago and haven't experienced this issue. However judging on the ranting of affected users, try to avoid Mi A2 if you can get other similar device in same price.
- Camera wise Redmi Note 7s is far better than Mi A2.
- With Redmi Note 7s, you'd be disappointed with the amount of multitasking in the stock MIUI after a few months. For current uses, 3 GB RAM is adequate enough, but MIUI bloatware consumes a lot of RAM.
- Custom ROMs will offer quite good multitasking on Redmi Note 7s. So i'd say go for the Note 7 (better camera + better battery + no eMMC issue).
For me I will absolutely chose MI A2...
Because I hate notch
Just had to make this decision a month ago
I got the A2 and I don't regret a thing .. btw the camera sensor on A2 is better than the note 7 just .. just the battery for the note 7 .. every thing else A2 win
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Just had to make this decision a month ago
I got the A2 and I don't regret a thing .. btw the camera sensor on A2 is better than the note 7 just .. just the battery for the note 7 .. every thing else A2 win
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Do you think the battery is manageable? What has your experience been like?
Not the best .. avg 5 hours and I play pubg a lot using havoc latest version
have you ever tried miui? do you like it or would you rather have a stock-ish android experience? it boils down to just this...
if you hate miui you're stuck with it on the redmi note 7 till good custom roms show up, and even then, xiaomi makes you jump through hoops to unlock it and get the custom rom up.
other then this, the redmi note 7 has better hardware, same cpu, better battery and i'd argue a better camera as well. not that either of them takes stellar pictures. i personally cant stand miui any more so ... i would either wait for official custom roms for the lavender or the mi a3.
i am currently using an a2 and im perfectly happy with it - i think it's onenof the best xiaomi devicees i've owned in terms of headaches caused but it's hard to recommend 1y old devices...
l.e. and yep, the battery on the a2 barely gets me through the day with 5-7h sot. it's not great.... the note 7 with a good custom rom and proper mods should easily last 2 days, i was getting that on the redmi note 4 with its 4000mah bateery. and yet, considering how long it took me to unlock, fijd a good lineage, set it up, i think the 1day battery is a small price to pay to get a stock android from the getgo with no worries that the maintainers siddenly drop support...
l.e2:
if you want miui (it does have some nice features) -> redmi note 7
if you want stock android: either wait for the mi a3 or get the the a2. unless youre willing to waste time and effort to go the custom route on the redmi note 7.
Just install Hex kernel, it fixes the slow eMMC write speed. You will need to unlock bootloader to do that.
laviniu_c said:
have you ever tried miui? do you like it or would you rather have a stock-ish android experience? it boils down to just this...
if you hate miui you're stuck with it on the redmi note 7 till good custom roms show up, and even then, xiaomi makes you jump through hoops to unlock it and get the custom rom up.
other then this, the redmi note 7 has better hardware, same cpu, better battery and i'd argue a better camera as well. not that either of them takes stellar pictures. i personally cant stand miui any more so ... i would either wait for official custom roms for the lavender or the mi a3.
i am currently using an a2 and im perfectly happy with it - i think it's onenof the best xiaomi devicees i've owned in terms of headaches caused but it's hard to recommend 1y old devices...
l.e. and yep, the battery on the a2 barely gets me through the day with 5-7h sot. it's not great.... the note 7 with a good custom rom and proper mods should easily last 2 days, i was getting that on the redmi note 4 with its 4000mah bateery. and yet, considering how long it took me to unlock, fijd a good lineage, set it up, i think the 1day battery is a small price to pay to get a stock android from the getgo with no worries that the maintainers siddenly drop support...
l.e2:
if you want miui (it does have some nice features) -> redmi note 7
if you want stock android: either wait for the mi a3 or get the the a2. unless youre willing to waste time and effort to go the custom route on the redmi note 7.
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I personally don't like miui but still i can manage till stable roms come out. Btw do you think the difference in storage and ram should be considered while making the decision cuz its 4gb/64gb (a2) vs 3gb/32gb (rn7) for the same price?
yes. do not get the 3/32 rn7. it might not even be the global version... and 3/32 is definettly not future proof... it does have expandable storage but you'd sacrifice the second sim. and 3gb ram is still bad.
just wait a couple weeks, prices for it should come down a bit.
I bought Mi A2 Yesterday only and I'm happy with it. I didn't buy RN7/7s because of miui and it takes a lot of time to unlock bootloader. And i mostly prefer stock. And battery backup of Mi A2 is enough only for me. Plus RN7/7s is soo thick i don't like at all.
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Just install Hex kernel, it fixes the slow eMMC write speed. You will need to unlock bootloader to do that.
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When will i go through this eMMC slow?
poran123 said:
I bought Mi A2 Yesterday only and I'm happy with it. I didn't buy RN7/7s because of miui and it takes a lot of time to unlock bootloader. And i mostly prefer stock. And battery backup of Mi A2 is enough only for me. Plus RN7/7s is soo thick i don't like at all.
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When will i go through this eMMC slow?
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People report experiencing slow clearing of cache data. Eg, when clearing Chrome's browser cache.
For day to day use you probably won't notice it.
yep, it only shows when you delete lots and lots of very small files. such as the chrome cache. wish there was a way to permanently disable it...
WHi there,
i am an (almost) happy Mix 3 user. Almost because the slider mechanism as example given.. I don´t have any problems with it for now, besides a light wobble that seems to be normal on this model in most cases. I am more concerned about the longlivity of the mechanism and the dust that can get into it (using a FitBag for it). I got my device some weeks ago but i am not sure if a phone made of one peace is just easier to maintain. I always have a look for dust between the both halfes of the Mix 3 and baby it. Some kind of stress..
Now the Mi 9T Pro is available for preorder in Europe i think to replace the Mix 3 with it. The problem is that i am not sure if this is a logical step in performance and features..
I am using the back camera a lot and the Mix 3 one is great for me. I don´t want to make a step backwards, but i think a phone made out of one peace makes me feel better in some way.. Can´t discribe it any better.. Maybe i can´t decide and thinking about to much..
Thank you for your input and kindly regards!
I have both machines. I think it really depends on which feature you prefer.
The MIX3 has a better back camera. The 9T Pro could not beat MIX3 in indoor photos (less accurate focus, relatively blurry details).
However, I like the lightweight (compared to MIX3) and especially the 3.5mm audio jack of the 9T Pro. Also 9T Pro has better endurance. I don't need to carry the power bank with 9T Pro.
I'm still asking myself whether these advantages outweigh the slightly inferior camera.
I have ordered a Mi 9T Pro now on Amazon to direct compare both devices. I must have them in hand to make a decision.
I don't know how to rate the slider. I don't use the front cam that often, but the dust that could get in there stresses me in some way, I always blow it out a little bit - feels like the phone needs a lot of maintenance and babying.. Even if I do this without thinking about it to much.
I had ordered the mi mix 3 then I Saw the k20 pro. I cancelled the mi mix 3 and got the k20 pro. i don't know about the back camera comparision but imo the mi mix 3 is now absolete.
I got my Mi 9T Pro yesterday but i really can´t decide between the both.. I "played" a little bit with the 9T Pro and tested everything, but i can´t help myself - for now i like the Mix 3 more, especially design wise. The slider is so much cooler than the popup cam.. Overall the 9T Pro looks so "normal" when you compare it with the Mix 3, the Mix 3 really stands out of the masses - that is why i always choosed the Mix series.
I also started to migrate my data to the 9T Pro but i stopped it at last to go on with the Mix for today. Maybe i start another try today evening, but i am really unsure.
Even if the 9T Pro is a little bit lighter, the battery much bigger and the display looks a bit more colorful compared to the Mix 3, the slider free display.. I am really unsure in the end if this would be my daily driver.
I am not a gamer, but a power user on Chrome and some board apps. Never got the hardware to it´s limits. I also take photos very often, and in my first impression the cam of the Mix 3 is also better. I did a direct comparsion with both phones photos on a calibrated display on my computer.
If you have both and can't decide, may be it is because they aren't that different. If you think the mi mix 3 is better in photo, keep it and wait for the mi mix 4.
Mix 3 has OIS on its back camera, and I think you need it more.
for 4 months I never care about dust in the gap. Never had any issues. Don't let it bother you.
Heck, I even use it naked, no cases or so whatever. It such a beautiful phone.
And I regularly play that slider toy ?.
I agree with abstract123, wait for the Mix 4.
Hey guys!
I hope I'm in the right place to post/ask this. But I honestly don't know any better place to go to.
At the moment I am to decide between the Mi 8 (6/64GB) for 170 € and the Mi 9 Lite (6/128 GB) for 200 €.
I already ordered, received and set up the Mi8 and the good price for the Mi 9 Lite just appeared recently.
The Mi 8 definitely has a better performance due to the SD845 (vs SD710) and has WiFi MiMO, an OIS, as well as apt-X and costs 30 € less (at least for me). Likely due to its release date there also are way more ROMs and Mods available for the Mi8 already.
Mi 9 Lite on the other hand supports LTE Band28 (which will become more and more important in Germany), has better camera sensors, a bigger battery, an infrared blaster, SD card support, a drop notch, an audio jack and, well, in-screen fingerprint (which I guess is nice but not that important) and it was released about 1 year later which could lead to longer software support.
So there's very much points arguing for the Mi 9 Lite. But:
Does the premium SoC of the Mi 8 guarantee more updates over time then the Mi 9 lite?
Is the camera of the Mi 9 Lite really better than on the Mi 8 as OIS is missing?
Is the in-screen fingerprint more imprecise than fingerprint on the back?
Could apt-X also be applied to the Mi 9 Lite? (one day I read about it being implemented in LOS by default)
Thanks in advance for your help and opinions on this question.
Kind Regards,
Seyron
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Thank you very much for your fast answer!
Referring to this post the Mi8 also comes with an Samsung AMOLED, though I can't find much other reliable information elsewhere that would support this statement. Phonearena seems to be the only specs listing website that states it, too, as being produced by Samsung. However it's my first AMOLED device and I therefore can't compare to others. I've declared to myself that my next phone definitely would be one for under 200 € and would have to come with an AMOLED screen, which now, thanks to the special offer for the Mi 9 Lite, is met by both devices.
Yeah the battery point is a powerful one. I get 1.5 days of battery lifetime at most with low usage while I got almost 3 days out of my Redmi Note 4 when I didn't use it much.
Also B-S-G - afaik the most popular developer for GCam ports - is developing the GCam specifically for the Mi8 (among other devices) which almost guarantees a most recent and working GCam version for it. But I only can tell that the image quality is way better than it was on my Redmi Note 4, which on the other side just would be very devastating if it wasn't.
It'd also be worth mentioning that due to the different vendors I'd have 2 years warranty for the Mi 8 (Amazon) but none to a maximum of one year for the Mi 9 Lite (Banggood).
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
what I can tell you about Mi 9 lite is : the screen is top , fingerprint on screen ( no need to turn your phone when on desk ) battery is xxl , microSD port , Irda port ( tv remote ) I use Nova rather than miui launcher and this phone is nearly perfect for what I do.
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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As I pointed out I already compared both phones myself using gsmarena and just summarized the main differences upon which I wasn't able to make a decision.
kesc said:
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
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Thanks for your input! I have to say that just recently a colleague ordered and received his Mi 9 Lite and the In-Screen-Fingerprint seems to be quite fast and accurate at first glance.
Camera on the Mi 8 using GCam is amazing. Especially when compared to my old Redmi Note 4.
And as this is my first Amoled it also looks amazing, but I have no comparison.
I also face sudden SystemUI reboots on HavocOS on my Mi8 about once every two to three days.
seities said:
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
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Wow! Thank you so much for your efforts taking time to write such an detailed and honest opinion.
Talking about the Pixel Experience ROM I took a look into that and counting from release date of the Mi 8 it took about 6 months for a stable and official build to be released (May 2018 -> 25th Nov 2018).
Depending on the Mi 9 lite being released in Sep 2019 one could give it 2-3 months from now on compared to the time it took the Mi 8 to get some Official ROM support. As far as I can see the first unofficial custom ROMS for the Mi8 dropped in Oct 2018 which is 5 months after release whereas the first unofficial LOS build appeared just recently for the Mi 9 Lite. Therefore it only took the Mi 9 Lite 4 months to receive its first unofficial LOS build. So it looks like the support and development isn't that bad.
But yet it's still hard to tell how much (xda community) popularity the phone could get in the near future.
For me the battery life is one of the most convincing reason to buy. It was so satisfying to reach up to 3 days with my Redmi Note 4 without having to charge it once. I know this depends on usage but I always got at least 2 days if I wasn't at home gaming on the phone all the day.
Oh and yeah - you name it - the feeling of the vibration motor is so smooth and from the first moment on gives a so much more premium feeling than I experienced with the one in my Redmi Note 4. And yes the fingerprint scanner on the mi 8 is very fast and accurate.
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I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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Interesting point. But isn't this just depending on the ROM/software or is this a hardware issue?
I already somehow adapted to the forehead notch. I found it quite ugly the first to days. And it still is. The teardrop notch definitely is way more attractive. I guess it's missing the IR front camera, though (not that it would be that important/useful). And are the speaker, proximity sensor as well as light sensor positioned under the Amoled somewhere?
Hello guys,
My question is, is it worth to change my Mi 8 with Mi note 10? Camera performance is what interesting me, not overall performance. I'm not a gamer....
Hello. I jad also Mi8. Now i bought the Mi10 (I know its not the Mi Noten10) and i give it the Mi8 to my girlfriend. After 10 days im not so happy with my Mi10. Ok, fast, beautiful screen,relatively good camera. But, its big(Mi8 was greatin my hand),and heavy. I would like to go backnto my Mi8, but my girlfriend dont want to give me back ?. Thats my personal opinion. But,its mist be your personal decision.
krepsz said:
Hello. I jad also Mi8. Now i bought the Mi10 (I know its not the Mi Noten10) and i give it the Mi8 to my girlfriend. After 10 days im not so happy with my Mi10. Ok, fast, beautiful screen,relatively good camera. But, its big(Mi8 was greatin my hand),and heavy. I would like to go backnto my Mi8, but my girlfriend dont want to give me back . Thats my personal opinion. But,its mist be your personal decision.
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Thanks, mate. I'm a big guy, and i love larger screens, so that not gonna be a problem. I will, personally, buy it exclusively for the cameras and if is not a big difference i will stay with Mi 8.
dacha1984 said:
Thanks, mate. I'm a big guy, and i love larger screens, so that not gonna be a problem. I will, personally, buy it exclusively for the cameras and if is not a big difference i will stay with Mi 8.
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I considered getting it myself. But after researching the phone it less less bands than the mi8 and mi9, ( not including the 5 G bands of course)
In regard to the camera, watch this complet video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtdc8Fj1Wg and you will see that the Note 10 actually competes fairly well against the Mi10. personally, i have decided to stick with the Mi8 for a while until i have a better idea of What I would want to upgrade to. I am also considering the OnePlus 7T or OnePlus 8.
if you are interested i made a spreadsheet with the differences between phones and radio bands.
As an owner of both devices, all i can say is stick to mi8.
Here are few reasons why:
1) in-hand feel and size.
Note 10 is just to hefty and thick. Mi8 is much more enjoyable to handle.
2) Curved screen - so unpleasant to use, so easy to brake.
3) Very slow fingerprint reader.
4) SD730 is not flagship level
5) Camera has great IQ but photo processing and camera handling is slow and nonresponsive.
Of course, there are some benefits of mi note 10, better battery and more versatile camera setup, but for me mi8 is still better option with a smaller size, ir face unlock, classic fingerprint and more powerful cpu.
dacha1984 said:
Hello guys,
My question is, is it worth to change my Mi 8 with Mi note 10? Camera performance is what interesting me, not overall performance. I'm not a gamer....
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I have both phones and can tell you: Stay with your Mi 8. Even if the camera is way better in Mi Note 10 it has many bugs. And you can really feel the Snapdragon 730G. Image processing is slow, apps aren't loading as fast....
Go with Mi 10. I think it gives you everything.