It is very interesting when Google to decide that optical sensor is unsafe and we will have to use PIN for Mobile pay then it will be not usable for us I think.
https://phandroid.com/2019/01/15/go...ensors-are-secure-enough-for-mobile-payments/
edkis said:
It is very interesting when Google to decide that optical sensor is unsafe and we will have to use PIN for Mobile pay then it will be not usable for us I think.
https://phandroid.com/2019/01/15/go...ensors-are-secure-enough-for-mobile-payments/
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I've actually had Google Pay ask for my pin several times when I was using my M20P to pay at registers. Maybe it started happening to enhance security but touchless payments actually work fine on this phone when Google asks for a pin. You just enter your pin and put the phone back by the NFC scanner and the payment gets processed like normal.
I use the face unlock for google pay, and fingerprint for banking app.
Neither can be fooled. It's nonsense and google trying to make life difficult for innovative mobile manufacturers.
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Do active notifications and other lockscreen goodies work when you have a PIN code set?
PS Why are some people having wet dreams over these when Symbian had it years ago?
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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Unless you have a skip!
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
clovis_ll said:
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
plasticmoz said:
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
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I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
thedosbox said:
He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
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As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
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As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
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I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
thedosbox said:
I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
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I believe my Vivid even interpreted Password Required as a pattern unlock...so it may depend on ActiveSync server and device.
I WAS an owner of a Nexus 5, very beloved to me because it was a gift for an achievement. Anyway, I use public transport almost everyday to get to places. Today while I was on my way to the university, I was targeted by a pickpocket who took away my phone
After a couple of minutes of running around and searching for the pickpocket I remembered the new "Find My Phone" feature Google launched recently. So I soon got into my account on a laptop and Googled "Find my Phone". Unfortunately, the thief had already switched it off and Google cannot locate it because its offline and switched off.
Now not only am I angry on the thief and myself, but I am also angry on Google. We've had Android Device Manager lying around for years and it already has Device Administrator permissions, yet it cannot switch on GPS, notify about SIM changes nor can it report the last known location of the phone. Its like the sheer existence of Android Device Manager is a waste.
I know you'd blame me for not having a third-party app to track my lost phone (I used to have an amazing and free app called Theftie which was pulled down by Google for an unknown reason) , but that's not the point. Why doesn't Google have a way to find and retrieve my android phone just like Apple has features to find lost iDevices. Why cant Android Device Manager turn on location and track a device even when it is locked. Why cant it prevent illegitimate flashing of devices?
Now I have ended up with no phone and I am left with no money (I've spent all my student budget money on college fee and to fund my final year project) and no phone (let alone smartphone). So the only way to get a new phone is to either do some kind of achievement or wait for two more months and those two months will like living in the Stone age.
Anyway, I request you android fans to help me send a message to Google, all OEMs and developers of custom recoveries, third-pary apps etc. We need a solution to prevent our phone from being stolen and in case it gets stolen, we want a way to retrieve our lost phones. We request all of you genius developers to work on securing not only our data but also our devices.
TL;DR: Had my phone pick-pocketed and the thief switched off the phone. Tried locating the phone using Android Device Manager and "Find My Phone" on Google. No use because the phone is neither online nor is it switched ON. Requesting Google and devs to come up with solutions to safeguard devices
Obviously it's of no use to Nexus 5 users, but Google has addressed these problems with Android Device Protection that came with 5.1
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Believe me I know that panic,disbelief,frantically going through your pockets, as it dawns it's gone. I took out all trace apps on this because they are useless as you know.
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Blacklist it....
Have the carrier "Blacklist" the imei then the pickpocket can not use it other than just parts... He/She may have just turned the phone off, keep on trying, they may try to turn it on to attempt to flash it.... you might also see where it is or has been if your "location history" was set to be "on" look in your google account "dashboard" its down the page a bit "location history"
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Obviously it's of no use to Nexus 5 users, but Google has addressed these problems with Android Device Protection that came with 5.1
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Google has become more and more like a regular OEM these past couple updates in regards to holding out on features for no reason at all other than to generate sales on a new device.
Really sorry to your lost, and get a iphone next time
Downloaded Cerberus
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Unfortunately, the thief had already switched it off and Google cannot locate it because its offline and switched off
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Let me get this straight. You're mad at Google because they don't have the ability to locate your phone that is turned off? Apple can't do that. No manufacturer can do that. It is impossible. The phone is off. Radios, GPS, data, sim. All of that requires power to function.
If it's turned off, there obviously is no way to track it.
In Cerberus, you can disable the ability to turn off the phone while it is locked, as well as quick settings while locked (no airplane mode). This way, the thief has to stay online. It all works without root.
I´m sorry for your loss but you cannot blame Google or LG or anybody else for the lost phone. Let me guess, you´re one of the guys who puts his phone, wallet or other valuable items in his back pocket ? This is a invitation for every scumbag to snatch it...
I use Cerberus and even this App is not 100% safe if the thief knows how to get rid of it. On the other hand, Cerberus can send you a Email with the new SIM details but in order to function properly, your device needs to be rooted.
Better luck next time. I see people on a regular basis who don´t seem to care about losing their stuff.
I like that cerberus can hide itself from the Apps menu. A careless thief might not be aware the app is loaded and running, and taking a SNAPSHOT of his face
Remote wipe is a nice last resort option.
call your carrier or service provider to block your IMEI No or file a police report about stolen phone with IMEI and they will track it when ever thief put any SIM card in it this is the best way to get your phone back provided police & service provider helps you ( there is very thin chance of it )
At least in Germany, the police won´t do anything to track down a stolen phone. You can fill a report but this will only waste your time. There is one exception where the police MIGHT track a stolen phone: You have to be assaulted by the thief and let him beat the living cr*p out of you before he runs away with your phone, wallet etc...
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At least in Germany, the police won´t do anything to track down a stolen phone. You can fill a report but this will only waste your time. There is one exception where the police MIGHT track a stolen phone: You have to be assaulted by the thief and let him beat the living cr*p out of you before he runs away with your phone, wallet etc...
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Well then just get a friend to punch you in the face and thats it... Like in 25th hour lol
This is why I use cataclysm which blocks the power off, reboot, etc menu when secure.
Although if the thief is knowledgeable of holding power for 30 seconds it will reboot but still, not easy to turn off.
jb91 said:
If it's turned off, there obviously is no way to track it.
In Cerberus, you can disable the ability to turn off the phone while it is locked, as well as quick settings while locked (no airplane mode). This way, the thief has to stay online. It all works without root.
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and if you hold down the power button for 8 (10) seconds? it turns off anyways. hardware level bypass of the software.
Gorgtech said:
I´m sorry for your loss but you cannot blame Google or LG or anybody else for the lost phone. Let me guess, you´re one of the guys who puts his phone, wallet or other valuable items in his back pocket ? This is a invitation for every scumbag to snatch it...
I use Cerberus and even this App is not 100% safe if the thief knows how to get rid of it. On the other hand, Cerberus can send you a Email with the new SIM details but in order to function properly, your device needs to be rooted.
Better luck next time. I see people on a regular basis who don´t seem to care about losing their stuff.
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Nope I keep it safely in my front pocket with my hands in the pocket. But here, the public buses are so overloaded that you cant stand with your hands in your pockets.
The thief found this to be the best opportunity and slipped the phone out of my pocket.
jineshpatel30 said:
call your carrier or service provider to block your IMEI No or file a police report about stolen phone with IMEI and they will track it when ever thief put any SIM card in it this is the best way to get your phone back provided police & service provider helps you ( there is very thin chance of it )
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Hmmm this sounds like a very good idea. Blocking the IMEI itself. I did lodge a complaint with the police, so I am going to raise a request to block the IMEI as well. But will I be able to unblock it IFFFF I ever get my phone back?
dr.eXntriK said:
Hmmm this sounds like a very good idea. Blocking the IMEI itself. I did lodge a complaint with the police, so I am going to raise a request to block the IMEI as well. But will I be able to unblock it IFFFF I ever get my phone back?
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Yah you will IF YOU OFFICIALLY FILE COMPLAIN to police.. when they track your phone..but i think there will be some legal process u need to follow for claiming it back
If you already lodge a complaint then talk to them freely about blocking & unblocking..they will give you proper details.
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Gorgtech said:
At least in Germany, the police won´t do anything to track down a stolen phone. You can fill a report but this will only waste your time. There is one exception where the police MIGHT track a stolen phone: You have to be assaulted by the thief and let him beat the living cr*p out of you before he runs away with your phone, wallet etc...
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Same case in India also but it's still worth to try...and it's best way to recover if you got lucky with police
I hate it that in lollipop one can enable airplane mode while the device is locked.
Also, the power menu is accessible.
This basically makes the tracker useless.
Enviado do meu Nexus 5
Has anyone tried and compared the note 8 facial recognition and google's trusted face, and can tell which one is better.
Though there is advantage for google's trusted face to improve face recognition, by adding face data in different lighting, but samsung's face recognition can be used in AppLocks.
If there is a post about it do refer to that post.
Face Recognition isn't the most secure device unlocking feature for a mobile device. As it can easily be curcumvented using a picture. I would recommend using either Iris, Fingerprint or password unlocking. As those methods of device unlocking are the most secure. Even the pattern unlocking method can be easily and quickly solved.
iceepyon said:
Face Recognition isn't the most secure device unlocking feature for a mobile device. As it can easily be curcumvented using a picture. I would recommend using either Iris, Fingerprint or password unlocking. As those methods of device unlocking are the most secure. Even the pattern unlocking method can be easily and quickly solved.
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Never trust anything from Google!
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Does anybody use mobile payments via NFC on X2 Pro? I cannot make it work on my EU version. Tried a few places and the terminal always says that it can't use this card.
I am using it every day with no problems. Maybe you have badly set your Google Pay.
Can you suggest how to set up nfc in gpay im unable to set it up
It works for me aswell, i did just enter my card info in gpay app, and it worked.
Check with your bank and se if your card/bank can use gpay.
perfectly working
Sadly there are no payment apps that support NFC in India
It was my fault. I wanted to pay via my banking app, but it turned out they deprecated hce payments. Gpay works well.
I also used mobile payments via NFC and I can say that there were always problems with this, which did not end. Seriously, as soon as they fixed one problem, another one would appear. Then I was looking for an online gambling payment for myself, so I needed an option that would be a little more reliable.It just pisses me off when nothing depends on me and makes me wait. Not that I'm a big IT specialist, but every time you fix something that you don't have to fix it quickly gets tired and annoying. Hopefully they'll do something about it or they'll just lose customers like they did in my case.
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Sadly there are no payment apps that support NFC in India
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SBI Card pay (for SBI cards) works just fine with NFC. Not sure about other cc issuing companies.
I found a SAMSUNG A71 after wipedate/factory reset the phone still asking the pin unlock or Google account ,its any solution to can use this phone again?
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I found a SAMSUNG A71 after wipedate/factory reset the phone still asking the pin unlock or Google account ,its any solution to can use this phone again?
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You "found" a Samsung A71 that isn't yours? Lol yeah you just triggered it's Factory Reset Protection, you won't be able to use it without knowing the original PIN or Google account.
no method to use the phone again?
No, it can only be unlocked by the original owner
Its need to be some method to hack this protection ,with program or ??
There isn't. And even if there was, such programs are forbidden to be discussed in XDA.
A fix the problem and now the phone is unlocked without problem
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A fix the problem and now the phone is unlocked without problem
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Yeah, sadly there are ways to go around FRP.
Usually it involves opening the keyboard settings and triggering webview from the 3rd party licensing disclaimer ... then a somewhat longer trip depending on the OS that finally brings you to the main Settings app where you can remove other Google account and do whatever.
FRP in Android is kinda a flop, in the end the only thing that it manages to protect is your account.
Some of these FRP and Webview security holes have been fixed by Google with A9 and A10, but many still remain in OEM custom android OSs.
I myself had to do this in many occasions for old folk that don't remember their passwords/pins (password recovery not an option) and want to give the phone to someone else. Never did it for a "found" phone tough.
ban.codrut said:
Yeah, sadly there are ways to go around FRP.
Usually it involves opening the keyboard settings and triggering webview from the 3rd party licensing disclaimer ... then a somewhat longer trip depending on the OS that finally brings you to the main Settings app where you can remove other Google account and do whatever.
FRP in Android is kinda a flop, in the end the only thing that it manages to protect is your account.
Some of these FRP and Webview security holes have been fixed by Google with A9 and A10, but many still remain in OEM custom android OSs.
I myself had to do this in many occasions for old folk that don't remember their passwords/pins (password recovery not an option) and want to give the phone to someone else. Never did it for a "found" phone tough.
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Was difficult to break through my girlfriend for got her pincode and made it worse for got her Google account password now it's lock.any hints or break to get started or unlock even better thanks