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Anyone work atm on a port of TWRP for Note 8? I cannot wait anymore for a custom rom hehe

Can we use the twrp from S8??
I think its the same hardware. Only more RAM.

Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?

ZiprLips said:
Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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Huh? Why would that be? I haven't had a note for a while but had twrp and root on my note 4, spen worked perfectly and saw daily use.
Edit: oh I see what you mean. You mean ported version from the s8 right?

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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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TWRP is a recovery image and a direct S8 TWRP port wouldn't affect the operating skin, so no S-Pen functionality would be lost.

But twrp don't give root.. I say let start a bounty

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Why would you want it on a note? If you want to root and run other os, get a s8+. Wouldn't the s pen become a paperweight?
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I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.

Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.

ZiprLips said:
I guess I've just been relatively happy with touch wiz so I never considered going that route. The last phone I ran a diff OS on was the n3 or n4.
My only complaints would be I'd like to be able to download torrents right to the sd card, and for them to fix the vpn bug.
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If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.

Torquemada288 said:
I think you've either misunderstood the question or don't understand the concept.
TWRP doesn't affect the OS at all but you can use TWRP to install a customised version of the OS that has more features, less bloat and still keeps all of the functionality of the official OS.
Before I had to move to a Lineage OS based ROM on my Note 3, I used ROMs that were based on Samsung firmware and the S-pen worked just fine.
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Torquemada288 said:
If the stock software suits you, that's all good. But you have to understand that it doesn't suit everyone and many people want to have more control over how their device looks and behaves based on their needs and personal preferences.
I'll probably keep my Note 8 stock until I either get fed up with TouchWiz or some fancy custom ROM catches my eye, but even then, I'll probably root it and install TWRP as soon as the opportunity arrives.
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Your absolutely right. This is one of those moments when I commented without anything of substance to add. My bad, carry on gents lol.

How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I'm getting the international Note 8, so I'll be having all the modding fun.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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I could not agree more. Every new phone I buy I don't expect a BL unlock. Especially Samsung. I expect someone will come up with a root method for the Note 8 eventually but if not, I'm still happy with my Note 8. I still have my unlocked Pixel XL to play with for ROM testing etc. I just wish Samsung would push Oreo out. I was in the beta and I think Oreo is much better than Nougat. I know it will likely be a month or more before we see it on the Note 8.

Death-Dealer said:
How many retarded Noobs are going to post and ask questions and rooting and roming on a locked bootloader N8? It's locked down, don't buy it than. ****, I ****ing can't stand members that don't read. We might get root in a couple months.....maybe. roming, well pretty much forget about it. I've been with xda for 10+ yrs, modding phones for 12 yrs, android for 7 yrs and haven't been without root for pretty much more than a couple hrs. But this note 8, even stock is amazing.
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Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^

TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.

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TWRP should be literally around the corner. Release date is this week, so TWRP and ROOT should be very close. ONLY FOR N950F and N950FD versions, EXYNOS. Snapdragon or USA or Canada variants are out of luck, just like the S8 snapdragons.
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This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?

maverickluke said:
This sound great. Many thanks for your info.
Do you have a link there we can check the availability of TWRP and/or Root for N950F/FD?
Or can you post an update here then it is available?
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Wait 4 thread in Rom development hope twrp comes soon

Every phone I have had with a locked boot loader has gotten root eventually. Someone will get it running. Be patient the phone has not even official been released.
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What about my 950N? I'd hope that development for the European models would work on all the Exynos variants...

Bushido1992 said:
Why locked... I use the exynos version? crapdragon US version is locked, but with the F exynos version, bootloader is open and no problem to install TWRP / Custom rom so far^^
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Well im on Sprint, and I'm not stupid enough to spend $1000+ on a phone I can't get insurance on and switch carriers too. Voiding warranty I can care less about cause I always rooted n romed right away, but no insurance......hell no. Root will be good enough when it eventually comes long. Also I like SD chips over Exynos anyways. What we need is more of the old school devs back. The Chad Goodman's of xda. I wish Samsung would offer an unlock code that we would agree voiding warranty too like HTC did before.

Opinions? Community growth with Root/Roms

In your opinion will this phone community grow bigger far as amount of Roms? I never owned a note before. In regards to Tmobile current offering of phones. This phone is the best hands down far as features and build quality. I checked out all of the Newest phones on Tmobile and researched xda rooting for each phone. The Note/S8 had the most so far. Does knox really handicap this phone that much far as this?
I will be getting this phone next Friday. The quality and features of this phone outweigh it all for me. Just bonus if this phone root/rom community will get big. Owned an LG G5 and G4 by far the worst build quality I've ever dealt with. Will never buy an LG after that.
OnePlus 5T doesn't offer payment plans. Also doesn't have all the premium features of this phone. I feel like rooting and roms are dien. Over the years it seems like all phones have had less and less.

Years back, rooting gave you the possibility of doing many things, now, the newer versions of android incorporate many options, so the need of root has become less urgent, the prices of flagships nowadays are really high, so, less people are willing to risk/loose their hard earned devices, so yes, littler development these days

What @winol wrote is absolutely correct.
But I'm sure, latest if the warranty is ended more and more people will Root their devices. As well if the Rom support from Samsung side is ended. then you will need Root to flash higher android versions.
And the device is absolutely great. So I'm sure more and more people will buy it (maybe a used one), and also more developer will get this phone and develop Rom's for it.
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Yeah the days of rooting and custom roms are drawing to a close. As stated, things that required root in the past are now baked in. The risk to reward ratio is world's apart. And with the new security and biometrics, you now lose functionality with root. I actually enjoy the stock note 8 experience inside and out. I don't see anything I would want to root and change.

i dunno what y'all are talking about but when we get the ability to do a system wide adblock and on youtube, we gonna need root.
Y'all bough the snapdragon version didn't ya? lol

masri1987 said:
i dunno what y'all are talking about but when we get the ability to do a system wide adblock and on youtube, we gonna need root.
Y'all bough the snapdragon version didn't ya? lol
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I got to agree with the above post. And add that root is the only way to get rid of the carrier provided bloat-ware and spying crapulance. So I cannot use Samsung Pay - no loss. Worth it for me not to have all the embedded spy-ware crap that pops up on my wife's unrooted phone constantly.
But I am conflicted as the Renovate ROM developers dropped support for their fine ROM for the Note 8 for some unstated reason but keep on with the S8. Very sad.

Don't misunderstand me. My phone is rooted since October where I bought it. I only want to show how the most note 8 owners are thinking. There are also many new android users where the note 8 is there first device. Or they switched from iPhones to Samsung. The most of them are not interested in rooting for now, or not even know what that is.
I have the exynos version and I rooted 2 weeks after I bought it.
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Flame Red said:
But I am conflicted as the Renovate ROM developers dropped support for their fine ROM for the Note 8 for some unstated reason but keep on with the S8. Very sad.
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Why unstated reason? He wrote the reason. He haven't time to support 3 devices (S7, S8, note 8). He's support is only paused until the next major update. And that's Oreo.
I'm sure the reason is, there are many more S7, S8/+ users then note 8 users.
Ok, there is a security update released since a few days. But also other developer's updated only the safety patch. Nothing more. I'm sure, you also don't get more support from Samsung in the next time until they will release Oreo. So also stock Rom users don't will get more support from Samsung directly (until Oreo release) .
I have tested some Rom's till now and the RICE Rom for me is still the best.
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I can see where all you guys are coming from. The risk is high, no one wants a $1k hard bricked paper weight. Stock has come far from the crap days. The battery life has gotten pretty close to Roms. I think you all are correct on Root/Rom dien breed. I think it will get to a point where you will only see it on OnePlus/Pixel/Few others.
But I do have to agree on pro root guy's here on a few things. Being able to rid yourself of bloatware is pretty awesome. The Adblockers for root work better. The UI is also better and customization. I know there's a bunch of Roms out there. Say for instance Res remix is UI/Custom heaven.
Appreciate everybody's input on this thread! But Note 8 you're to sexy to pass up, even without a large Rom collection Untill OnePlus has premium features and look. Also a payment plan! Judging from threads on xda and everybody input here. The Note has pretty decent size community for Rom/Root and will probably get bigger.
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i miss renovate so bad..
I'm on ironman right now but it ain't for me, gonna try dr. ketan.

masri1987 said:
Y'all bough the snapdragon version didn't ya? lol
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Which note 8 version is the one to get if we are looking to root, rom, & unlock bootloader?

First phone ever that I haven't rooted.
Secure Folder, S-Pay and S-Health are features worth it to me to not root.
The ROMs available here are not that enticing either. No offence meant to the devs, it's just my opinion man.
For ad blocking, I got a beta-test code for Adguard. Works pretty much perfectly.

CCJ22 said:
Which note 8 version is the one to get if we are looking to root, rom, & unlock bootloader?
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N950N if you want to not have the OEM unlock issue for certainty

masri1987 said:
i dunno what y'all are talking about but when we get the ability to do a system wide adblock and on youtube, we gonna need root.
Y'all bough the snapdragon version didn't ya? lol
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masri1987 said:
N950N if you want to not have the OEM unlock issue for certainty
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Thank you

masri1987 said:
i dunno what y'all are talking about but when we get the ability to do a system wide adblock and on youtube, we gonna need root.
Y'all bough the snapdragon version didn't ya? lol
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No, I have a 950F 128 GB, I used to root my devices, but now I do not feel the need to, I only miss viper4A

winol said:
No, I have a 950F 128 GB, I used to root my devices, but now I do not feel the need to, I only miss viper4A
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what about adblock? magisk modules? ad free and background youtube?

masri1987 said:
what about adblock? magisk modules? ad free and background youtube?
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Adguard works just as good. Magisk I miss. Ogyoutube goodbye ads.

yeah but you don't get pinch to zoom to fill in the screen on ogyoutube do you?

masri1987 said:
yeah but you don't get pinch to zoom to fill in the screen on ogyoutube do you?
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No but you get*
No ads-
Download videos or Mp3-
Black youtube (Sexy look, good battery life) -
A lot of other options-
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....module-og-youtube-adaway-magisk-t3606966/amp/

Any Custom ROM for Note 8 DUOS N9500?

Hello World,
I bought a Galaxy Note 8 DUOS (two SIM cards) with 256GB internal storage and Exynos CPU - its the Hong Kong Version of the China Model from Samsung.
I tried in vain to flash European Exynos Firmware for LineageOS respectively Resurrection Remix onto it, but it just won't take (flash works fine with TWRP, but phone never gets to boot past the initial loader screen).
Now before I put back that humongous (3+GB!) Samsung HK crap onto it, I wanted to check one last time if there is or isn't a custom Firmware available for this model?
I would prefer RR, but pure LOS would also do.

Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs

Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
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Please *not* in this patronizing tone.
You might think of yourself as the great "know it all", but your assumption that I am asking this question because I am too lazy (or too stupid) to utilize a search engine first, is truly denigrating.
And I have been an IT engineer for three decades, a Linux user for 15 and an Android user for over 5 years by now.
So I recon I already have "learned something".

charmz2k2 said:
Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.
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I went by the info that the Snapdragon is sold exclusively in the States (sorry, but the article is in German):
http://www.areamobile.de/news/43095-samsung-galaxy-s8-glaubensfrage-snapdragon-versus-exynos
And elsewhere I found the info that the Duos sold in HK is based on the Exonys.
I also "confimed" this via the device's ID number on an Asian website.
But given that I am currently not able to boot into the system (stuck @twrp), I might be assuming stuff here.
In any case, I located and tried two different custom firmwares I found on XDA for the N8 and they were all for various models of the N95xx *except* the 9500 (wasn't listed). And none worked.
I also searched for custom firmware specific to the N9500 Duos on XDA, Google and even some websites I normally wouldn't even want to download shabby videos from, but I found none.
So now I am about to flash back the stock Samsung HK firmware to it, but that would be my least favored choice.

Masinissa said:
I went by the info that the Snapdragon is sold exclusively in the States (sorry, but the article is in German):
http://www.areamobile.de/news/43095-samsung-galaxy-s8-glaubensfrage-snapdragon-versus-exynos
And elsewhere I found the info that the Duos sold in HK is based on the Exonys.
I also "confimed" this via the device's ID number on an Asian website.
But given that I am currently not able to boot into the system (stuck @twrp), I might be assuming stuff here.
In any case, I located and tried two different custom firmwares I found on XDA for the N8 and they were all for various models of the N95xx *except* the 9500 (wasn't listed). And none worked.
I also searched for custom firmware specific to the N9500 Duos on XDA, Google and even some websites I normally wouldn't even want to download shabby videos from, but I found none.
So now I am about to flash back the stock Samsung HK firmware to it, but that would be my least favored choice.
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Oh no... What a pain...
I think HK and China ones for 9500 are Snapdragon...
Hope you get it sorted.

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charmz2k2 said:
Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.
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One more info: I tried the Notorious kernel and its install screen specifically lists the compatible model versions and the N9500 is *not* in that list.
Since the XDA Lineage OS & RR ports are based on the Notorious kernel, it seems all but certain now that the HK model isn't supported by the XDA custom firmware.
So I'll stop with Notorious now and will instead flash myself all the way back to the shores of Honk Kong bay

Masinissa said:
One more info: I tried the Notorious kernel and its install screen specifically lists the compatible model versions and the N9500 is *not* in that list.
Since the XDA Lineage OS & RR ports are based on the Notorious kernel, it seems all but certain now that the HK model isn't supported by the XDA custom firmware.
So I'll stop with Notorious now and will instead flash myself all the way back to the shores of Honk Kong bay
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N9500 IS Snapdragon! Try downloading "systeminfo" from Google and that should confirm!
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Dejan Sathanas said:
Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
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The fact you take the time to post this says alot. Why don't YOU try to use the search function to the question that was asked and see what YOU learn, jackass.

robmeik said:
N9500 IS Snapdragon! Try downloading "systeminfo" from Google and that should confirm!
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I first have to flash myself back into a working system with the latest HK firmware.
But by now I am all but certain, that the info from that tech article (in German) was wrong, where they stated that N8 models sold outside the States were (all) based on Exonys. Well, they actually said, that only models sold in the US were based on Snapdragon. Fact is that I could not find *any* Exonys custom firmware that would be flashable onto my device - and I did a lot(!!) of searching about this. For me that means it must be Snapdragon.
Now my plan B is to get back to firmware, keep the darn thing rooted and then rip out as much of the Samsung crap as possible manually.
Is there any list which services and system apps are safe to remove on a stock firmware N8 9500?

Masinissa said:
I first have to flash myself back into a working system with the latest HK firmware.
But by now I am all but certain, that the info from that tech article (in German) was wrong, where they stated that N8 models sold outside the States were (all) based on Exonys. Well, they actually said, that only models sold in the US were based on Snapdragon. Fact is that I could not find *any* Exonys custom firmware that would be flashable onto my device - and I did a lot(!!) of searching about this. For me that means it must be Snapdragon.
Now my plan B is to get back to firmware, keep the darn thing rooted and then rip out as much of the Samsung crap as possible manually.
Is there any list which services and system apps are safe to remove on a stock firmware N8 9500?
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From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
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From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
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As a power user I happen to disagree as far as the usefulness of "rooting" is concerned.
Whilst that should never be a concern for "normal" users, even something as basic as changing those abysmal write blockages on the external SD card requires access to the stuff under the hood.
The same goes for using many of Chainfire's tools or being able to perform true full device backups *locally* (I would never entrust my data to the Samsung cloud).
And as far as the Snapdragon charging issue is concerned, last thing I read was this is now at 95-98%.
And since I used an official Samsung method to unlock the BL, I might not be affected by that at all.
In any case, I am sure I could compensate for those 5-3% in loss with a proper CPU governor (=root access).

Masinissa said:
As a power user I happen to disagree as far as the usefulness of "rooting" is concerned.
Whilst that should never be a concern for "normal" users, even something as basic as changing those abysmal write blockages on the external SD card requires access to the stuff under the hood.
The same goes for using many of Chainfire's tools or being able to perform true full device backups *locally* (I would never entrust my data to the Samsung cloud).
And as far as the Snapdragon charging issue is concerned, last thing I read was this is now at 95-98%.
And since I used an official Samsung method to unlock the BL, I might not be affected by that at all.
In any case, I am sure I could compensate for those 5-3% in loss with a proper CPU governor (=root access).
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As a power user who uses my phone normally I feel that the latest developments in the operating system don't need endless tweaking! It seems that so many users now just tweak for the sake of tweaking rather than enjoying what their communication device has to offer!
I bought a 256Gb dual sim device as I didn't want problems with sd cards and I'm OK with backing up to the Samsung cloud ... but hey, that's just me a simple normal user who has been using Android since it began and was very much into tweaking in the early days as there was so much improvement to be had through rooting.
OK I use Nova rather than Touchwiz (but that's improved dramatically) and my main grip of adverts is now minimised by using "paid for" apps where possible and Samsung's own Internet app is very efficient at stopping adverts!
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robmeik said:
As a power user who uses my phone normally I feel that the latest developments in the operating system don't need endless tweaking! It seems that so many users now just tweak for the sake of tweaking rather than enjoying what their communication device has to offer!
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It got nothing to do with "tweaking", but with overcoming intentional crippling of the device done by Google and Samsung together.
And for me a "power user" is not defined by someone who use his device often or has a lots of software on it, but by someone who insist on getting every ounce of possibility out of the hardware he paid good money for.
W/o root I can not decently mount ISO images or foreign file systems via SSH. W/o root I can not link across file systems or mount folders where *I* want them to be. W/o root I got no chance to alter the boot up behavior of the phone and I most certainly have no influence over anything running on it with "system" privileges.
I paid enough cash for my N8 for three new Laptops and in return I am supposed to be a devout little penguin who accepts any data stealing crap running in the background, any forced update Samsung pushes down my throat, learn to live with any security hole they won't patch and not be able to use my phone in ways *they* don't want me to?
If it be up to Google I wouldn't even be allowed to save YouTube Videos locally. For me being a "power user" means "being in power" - nothing more, nothing less.

since you are on snapdragon and you have been trying to flash exyno stuff, just wipe and you will be able to boot phone. i doubt any files were acctualy flashed. also any odin firmware you may have tried would have also failed.
by not having a custom recovery and probably not root either i do not see why your device is non operational.
looks like you probably used thisor should have)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-n9500-unlocking-bl-twrp-t3696103
anyways flashing back stock FW and following the steps in that link to gain twrp and root/magisk and xposed is all you need. custom roms have all of this baked in so you are not missing anything. maybe a few unique settings some have via rom control but nothing big.
but in the end its a shame a novice mistake was done by buying a snapdragon and tripped knox so you cant return it for a exynos.

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bober10113 said:
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but in the end its a shame a novice mistake was done by buying a snapdragon and tripped knox so you cant return it for a exynos.
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Buying this phone wasn't a "novice mistake", as I looked for the HW specs first.
There are specific things I want to do with this phone - like using it as a portable PC replacement and building a cluster with my tablet and my CuBox - thus I went for the top HW specs.
And that model is the only one with DUAL SIM (or SDXC card), and 256 GB internal storage. Naturally I needed to root the darn thing to install all the stuff I want. Tripping KNOX was never an issue for me, as getting rid of stock firmware is always one of the first things I do. 64GB internal storage just wasn't enough for me, as I plan to install quite a few qemu and other "alternative" systems on it. I work as a consultant in Enterprise IT and I got to travel all the time because of that.
Now whenever I am not required to work with a company laptop I prefer to travel as light as possible.
Honestly speaking, the modern high end smartphones have at least as much computing power as a middle class laptop, the only limitations usually being storage speed and RAM size.
With the flagship N9500 these limits no longer exist so why should I still slug around another laptop (even if its a small one), if I can use my smartphone plus a WiFi cast dongle for private browsing, code testing and writing my invoices?
The mistake I made was to not take the time to verify the info from that tech article and thus to assume that, because my phone wasn't sold in the US, it couldn't be a snapdragon (and yes, originally I tried the firmware from that XDA post).
So now I gotta do it the hard way, flash back to stock Firmware and then "customize" that one manually.

Last info on this thread:
I was able to flash myself into a working phone, by downloading the latest Hongkong firmware from sammobile.
Then I used twrp to flash the extracted boot and system images (both are required, once you were foolish enough to try and install Exonys based firmware to it).
Now I am installing Magisk and just rip out anything "Samsung" from the darn thing by hand.
BTW, the BL unlock & TWRP install method for Snapdragon China phones (not US!) described here on XDA does not seem to have that battery issue described elsewhere, as it is not based on SAMfail.

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From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
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It will charge up to 80%.

To root or not to root?

Hi everybody,
I’ve prereserved my Note 9, and while waiting for the release date I’m scrolling through the news and forums just to get teased a bit more
A question I’m asking myself though, is: do I really need to root this phone? I’ll lose some functionalities by rooting it (samsung pay/android pay, safetynet apps, knox...) but I’ll surely miss others too (adaway, xposed, tweaks...)
I always rooted all my devices unconditionnaly, like it’s part of my default setup, but do you guys think it’s still needed those days? Is there really a benefit, or can you live without root?

I use to be an avid 'root my phone asap' kinda guy, but the main reason was for wireless hotspot. It's included in most plans now, so I don't feel the need to. I liked getting a cleaner build, less bloatware. To each there own, but with a locked bootloader here in the US it may be a while as you'll need a unlocked version. Carriers here will have it locked down.

the first thing i'm going to do with the phone when i get it is rooting it, hopefully there is a working twrp and there is no oem timeout for unlocking the bootloader.
i can't live without adaway and titanium backup.
releasedate is thursday next week in sweden, can't wait, i have preordered the 512gb model in blue.

Not worth it anymore. Used to be mandatory when Android wasn't as feature rich and mature, but no reason for me to anymore.

In my case root would be needed only for app data transfer from the old phone. After that I don't see the need of root.
Anyway.. how about knox fuse trip and warranty?
Is this still a thing today? Was it in Note 5 7 8?
I know it was in Note 4. But what about later models?

I used to root, but not any more. I get the US unlocked version to cut down on the bloatware. Samsung has made it sooo easy to theme and skin the phone that it's pointless to root for that. Samsung pay is awesome and I use it more and more every day. Smart Switch has taken the place of Titanium back up, and it's free and very simple to use. Also with the 512gb version I ordered , not too worried about the few programs that I dont like but are included.
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I used to root the second i got a device, however since the 8 and also with the 9 i dont bother any more, all the reasons before were to get better battery life slim down etc, i just use package disable pro now and im done. Besides no point in tripping knox loosing secure folder and faffimng around to get google pay working etc. I love to tinker but the benefits are just not there any more imho

Most probably first phone i will not root. especially for warranty purpose with the know feature

Thanks for the input Now that I have some answers I can give my insights too. I think I'll (be able to) wait a few days before being tempted to root it, but I'm pretty sure there will be a day, especially when Samsung will drop updates and I'll have to use custom ROMs if I want to stay up to date or maybe get the Note 10 port
The things I would miss if I don't root are: Adaway, TWRP (flashing and full backup/restore), MyBackup Pro, debloating, Xposed probably, Viper4Android maybe.

I have been a root on day one guy myself forever. Interesting that people here have not mentioned the privacy issues with all my carrier's supplied bloatware. That crap goes immmmmediately. That was the main reason for rooting for me.

Flame Red said:
I have been a root on day one guy myself forever. Interesting that people here have not mentioned the privacy issues with all my carrier's supplied bloatware. That crap goes immmmmediately. That was the main reason for rooting for me.
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Ultimately, you don't necessarily have to root to debloat. You can just flash and use TWRP for this. Although when you boot into TWRP it triggers Knox and you lose those related functionalities.

This will be the second phone im not gonna root. First was the pixel 3 i need samsung pay in my life and plus im getting the locked sprint version. Im scared tho i really do want a clean build. Going with sammy since the s6. I dont want a phone with a notch so i figure i use my upgrade this year

I will always root the 1st day. Titanium backup, ad-away, TWRP, custom roms with 3minit battery, ability to customize volume buttons, VIPER4ANDROID, sooo many more reasons why. Stock is boring and dull. No reason to be on XDA if you are not rooting and using developers creations.

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I will always root the 1st day. Titanium backup, ad-away, TWRP, custom roms with 3minit battery, ability to customize volume buttons, VIPER4ANDROID, sooo many more reasons why. Stock is boring and dull. No reason to be on XDA if you are not rooting and using developers creations.
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Viper4android is the only reason I still root.

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Viper4android is the only reason I still root.
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Yup. Sounds so much better!

I personally stopped rooting since the Note 7 / S7E. I now find Samsung experience to offer me more than enough to keep from rooting. I've rooted all my phones since from the Dream G1 to Galaxy S1, Note 2, to the Note 4.

I root day 0 or I don't buy. Phone is worthless without Titanium backup, ad-away, TWRP.

i'm leaning towards no root. but it may be difficult to swallow at first, i think i've rooted the last 4 galaxies i've had... before that was a Nokia. I will undoubtedly miss ad-away, and i've made good use of Xposed on my recent Note5, but many people mention TitaniumBackup and i just don't use it much anymore. I have done a couple full backups with TWRP and used restore from it a couple times, but lets face it... those are things i wouldn't need if a hadn't broke something in a Root function in the first place! All in all, hoping for the best without Root - I want Knox intact. If you guys don't hear from me in the next week or two, i drowned in advertisements.

I've not rooted since my note 5, after being an instant root and Rom girly. It was previously much more needed, but these days not at all for me.
Best things I've found about not rooting -
- No worries at all about trading in, selling on, warranties, insurance etc.
- No worries about keeping the system ROM up to date, and over the air updates are sooooo easy
- No glitches or issues with radios and hardware etc from non standard roms
For me, the level that the current software and hardware is at has wiped out the need for rooting and flashing custom roms

Dayzee said:
I've not rooted since my note 5, after being an instant root and Rom girly. It was previously much more needed, but these days not at all for me.
Best things I've found about not rooting -
- No worries at all about trading in, selling on, warranties, insurance etc.
- No worries about keeping the system ROM up to date, and over the air updates are sooooo easy
- No glitches or issues with radios and hardware etc from non standard roms
For me, the level that the current software and hardware is at has wiped out the need for rooting and flashing custom roms
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THIS!
I'd rather have the option, but, no such animal for US Samsung devices.
I can deal w/o it on Samsung devices, thanks to Package Disabler Pro & the ad blocking app Block-This.
Is it a perfect substitute for root?
No, but, this gives me the best of what's important to me with the minimum of compromises.
No interest in non-Samsung based ROMs for this phone, why bother picking up a Note to strip it of its unique features........
Currently using a VZW Note 5 using Package Disabler Pro & Block-This..... Doing just fine, the pragmatic part of my twisted mind (on life support, LOL) tells me to save my money & wait until next year, but, I bought this particular phone in great condition @ a great price, to use solely as a trade-in for T-Mobile"s $500 bill credit.....
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Planning on purchasing a new Note 9, some questions...

Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.

No
No
Very good
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Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)

Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.

If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.

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If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.

Nah just this phone

ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.

No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.

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No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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bat0nas said:
Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.

I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates

dave678 said:
Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.

There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.

Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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bat0nas said:
Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.

gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.

When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.

gruuvin said:
When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?