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I mean seriously... I installed the Google clock app and Google calendar because the Huawei apps fail at the basic controls and after Android 7 they force their crap controls on other apps? Honestly, I am super passed.
I wish they could keep the alarm clock from Android 6/EMUI 4. The alarm clock on 7 looks so crap and undone.
I'm going to give a slightly more in-depth review of the new Android release for our phones, and why you should _NOT_ install it. In fact, I think EMUI 4.X blows 5.X out of the water.
Breaking down my major gripes with the system:
Battery life is terrible. I am yet to pinpoint the source of the drain, and without rooting I don't really have the ability to do a whole lot about it. Exact same settings and usage that I had on EMUI 4.X and instead of being able to go two days without a charge, I'm having to charge it constantly. It appears to be a mixture of software and hardware, which in my opinion, means that Huawei put very little effort into optimizing this software for their hardware.
Notifications are trash. Seriously. They're ugly, and not nearly as functional as their prior iteration. Spotify for example had a decent lockscreen functionality in EMUI 4.X -- That's now gone, replaced with a banner style widget. The default Google banner-style widget. So... Huawei pretty much left everything stock. This has been slapped together hastily. My gripe in this particular situation? Googles default banner widget is so thin, you can barely use the seek/play/pause functionality without accidentally mashing something you're not meaning to. --- Beyond that, there are bugs with text notifications. Example: If you get a text while you have that persons text conversation open in the stock messaging app, and they send another text, even though you're looking right at it you get a banner. The banner stays until you tap it. ...Seriously Huawei?
Apps, UI, other issues. Messaging, again. They've added an emoji icon into the text input area. You can't get rid of it. It wasn't there before, but now it's a permanent fixture. How about two more emoji icons on your keyboard? Sound annoying? It is. The "obvious" solution is to install other software to appeal to my pedantic needs. Or Huawei can stop making superfluous changes to their software. Black background on notification drawer, white banners... very sexy. Can't move certain icons in the app drawer (IE: You can move "Mobile Data" toggle, but not "Settings").
I won't keep ranting on and on, but Huawei seriously, seriously dropped the ball on this one. It's almost embarrassing in fact. There's a reason this upgrade hasn't been released worldwide, and if Huawei can't iron out their problems, I would never recommend it to any user who enjoyed anything about EMUI.
Verdict, in my opinion: Stick with EMUI 4.X - Root it. Enjoy.
Jonestown said:
I'm going to give a slightly more in-depth review of the new Android release for our phones, and why you should _NOT_ install it. In fact, I think EMUI 4.X blows 5.X out of the water.
Breaking down my major gripes with the system:
Battery life is terrible. I am yet to pinpoint the source of the drain, and without rooting I don't really have the ability to do a whole lot about it. Exact same settings and usage that I had on EMUI 4.X and instead of being able to go two days without a charge, I'm having to charge it constantly. It appears to be a mixture of software and hardware, which in my opinion, means that Huawei put very little effort into optimizing this software for their hardware.
Notifications are trash. Seriously. They're ugly, and not nearly as functional as their prior iteration. Spotify for example had a decent lockscreen functionality in EMUI 4.X -- That's now gone, replaced with a banner style widget. The default Google banner-style widget. So... Huawei pretty much left everything stock. This has been slapped together hastily. My gripe in this particular situation? Googles default banner widget is so thin, you can barely use the seek/play/pause functionality without accidentally mashing something you're not meaning to. --- Beyond that, there are bugs with text notifications. Example: If you get a text while you have that persons text conversation open in the stock messaging app, and they send another text, even though you're looking right at it you get a banner. The banner stays until you tap it. ...Seriously Huawei?
Apps, UI, other issues. Messaging, again. They've added an emoji icon into the text input area. You can't get rid of it. It wasn't there before, but now it's a permanent fixture. How about two more emoji icons on your keyboard? Sound annoying? It is. The "obvious" solution is to install other software to appeal to my pedantic needs. Or Huawei can stop making superfluous changes to their software. Black background on notification drawer, white banners... very sexy. Can't move certain icons in the app drawer (IE: You can move "Mobile Data" toggle, but not "Settings").
I won't keep ranting on and on, but Huawei seriously, seriously dropped the ball on this one. It's almost embarrassing in fact. There's a reason this upgrade hasn't been released worldwide, and if Huawei can't iron out their problems, I would never recommend it to any user who enjoyed anything about EMUI.
Verdict, in my opinion: Stick with EMUI 4.X - Root it. Enjoy.
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Wish you told me before I read your review..lol
I don't mind it so far, notifications are pretty crappy. Currently, I am using Google Keyboard a lot better than the built-in one.
My annoyance is that I use LastPass, Yaste and DoubleTwist apps, which should stay in the notification panel if I am using them even though the phone locks and it closes then on lock.
I have checked the power management and rebooted as well, but LastPass etc.. disappear from the nofication panel.
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Wish you told me before I read your review..lol
I don't mind it so far, notifications are pretty crappy. Currently, I am using Google Keyboard a lot better than the built-in one.
My annoyance is that I use LastPass, Yaste and DoubleTwist apps, which should stay in the notification panel if I am using them even though the phone locks and it closes then on lock.
I have checked the power management and rebooted as well, but LastPass etc.. disappear from the nofication panel.
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Haha, well I had to try it for a couple of days at least to make sure I was justified in disliking it so much.
I'll be rolling back today though, if I run into any issues with this I'll be sure to post any potential work arounds.
Jonestown said:
Haha, well I had to try it for a couple of days at least to make sure I was justified in disliking it so much.
I'll be rolling back today though, if I run into any issues with this I'll be sure to post any potential work arounds.
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PM me on how you roll back, I might do the same after you have.
Cheers fellow kiwi
Jonestown said:
I'm going to give a slightly more in-depth review of the new Android release for our phones, and why you should _NOT_ install it. In fact, I think EMUI 4.X blows 5.X out of the water.
Breaking down my major gripes with the system:
Battery life is terrible. I am yet to pinpoint the source of the drain, and without rooting I don't really have the ability to do a whole lot about it. Exact same settings and usage that I had on EMUI 4.X and instead of being able to go two days without a charge, I'm having to charge it constantly. It appears to be a mixture of software and hardware, which in my opinion, means that Huawei put very little effort into optimizing this software for their hardware.
Notifications are trash. Seriously. They're ugly, and not nearly as functional as their prior iteration. Spotify for example had a decent lockscreen functionality in EMUI 4.X -- That's now gone, replaced with a banner style widget. The default Google banner-style widget. So... Huawei pretty much left everything stock. This has been slapped together hastily. My gripe in this particular situation? Googles default banner widget is so thin, you can barely use the seek/play/pause functionality without accidentally mashing something you're not meaning to. --- Beyond that, there are bugs with text notifications. Example: If you get a text while you have that persons text conversation open in the stock messaging app, and they send another text, even though you're looking right at it you get a banner. The banner stays until you tap it. ...Seriously Huawei?
Apps, UI, other issues. Messaging, again. They've added an emoji icon into the text input area. You can't get rid of it. It wasn't there before, but now it's a permanent fixture. How about two more emoji icons on your keyboard? Sound annoying? It is. The "obvious" solution is to install other software to appeal to my pedantic needs. Or Huawei can stop making superfluous changes to their software. Black background on notification drawer, white banners... very sexy. Can't move certain icons in the app drawer (IE: You can move "Mobile Data" toggle, but not "Settings").
I won't keep ranting on and on, but Huawei seriously, seriously dropped the ball on this one. It's almost embarrassing in fact. There's a reason this upgrade hasn't been released worldwide, and if Huawei can't iron out their problems, I would never recommend it to any user who enjoyed anything about EMUI.
Verdict, in my opinion: Stick with EMUI 4.X - Root it. Enjoy.
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I guess its all depends on how you use your phone and what apps you got. I have 0 issues with EMUI 5.0 and I actually recommend it over EMUI 4.x. Battery life for me is slightly better thanks to the improved Doze and Vulcan API. Performance has improved, especially in the touch responsiveness of the UI (again, thanks to native support to Vulcan). I have no issues with the notification since all of the apps I use is clearly visible and functions properly. In regards to Apps, UI and etc... Well, I am using Nova Launcher Prime and I have customized it to the way I like it and also using SwiftKey so I dont get any of the keyboard issues you are reporting and I use Textra for my messaging and works perfectly fine.
So I guess its all depends on what apps you have and how you like your interface set up.
TG09 said:
PM me on how you roll back, I might do the same after you have.
Cheers fellow kiwi
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Not gonna PM just yet. I've had a hell of a time thusfar, still trying to find a method to get back to absolute stock (which would require our stock oeminfo I think, which I don't have, honestly I'm not even 100% sure).
Right now it says I'm on software version C900B140 -- I don't know wtf this is lol -- I'll figure it out though, at least it's working after 3 hours of bootlooping.
Hi,
U can rollback with unbranding but, it's painfull I struggled with it most of the week end.
(will redo it cause i want a root most of my apps need it).
Cheers
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Not gonna PM just yet. I've had a hell of a time thusfar, still trying to find a method to get back to absolute stock (which would require our stock oeminfo I think, which I don't have, honestly I'm not even 100% sure).
Right now it says I'm on software version C900B140 -- I don't know wtf this is lol -- I'll figure it out though, at least it's working after 3 hours of bootlooping.
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How did you get one fella?
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How did you get one fella?
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It was ****, but I was able to rollback to a C432 build. You're stuck with this version now, but there's a rollback thread somewhere around here with the instructions that work. I can't find it off hand, but googling "P9 Rollback" or searching for it on here should help. You're basically following the rollback instructions and then following the debrand instructions up until the point where you're asked to use Huawei Updater 2.0.
I installed, got to 4.1.1 -- disabled updates. Plan on staying here for a while.
Jonestown said:
It was ****, but I was able to rollback to a C432 build. You're stuck with this version now, but there's a rollback thread somewhere around here with the instructions that work. I can't find it off hand, but googling "P9 Rollback" or searching for it on here should help. You're basically following the rollback instructions and then following the debrand instructions up until the point where you're asked to use Huawei Updater 2.0.
I installed, got to 4.1.1 -- disabled updates. Plan on staying here for a while.
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Do i need to unlock bootloader to perform a rollback?
C900Bxx is a hybrid from flashing one firmware, say C432, over another, say C02. It won't receive any updates but can be 'rebranded' by flashing new oeminfo.img
Android 7 is way, way better than 6 - snappier, more responsive, better battery life, and as for Huawei apps overdrawing Google ones - like Calendar, Clock, etc - it doesn't happen with me, period.
Still, YMMV, and everyone's got their own tastes and opinions - including me lol.
Peace.
It doesn't happen for you? Okay, maybe I should do a factory reset.
hello
I on my mate 10 pro I see only TIME ,DATE, BATTERY
but I dont have any whatsup/viber/messanger/email notofications
is there any way to setup it on my display ?
nowy57 said:
hello
I on my mate 10 pro I see only TIME ,DATE, BATTERY
but I dont have any whatsup/viber/messanger/email notofications
is there any way to setup it on my display ?
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I believe only default huawei apps work with always on notifications. Unfortunately there's no other options
Playstore>Glance Plus
Is there any way to run third party support natively?
Actually, I can't even seem to get native email notifications to appear either?
This is really starting to bug me.
Hello,
Same problem for me : I would like to receive notifications from other apps (Whatsapp, Twitter, ...) on the always-on display.
I tried Glance Plus but it's impossible to unlock the phone with the fingerprint scanner using this app.
Someone can help us ?
Thx !
The same question.
Maybe some root mods can help us?
Please realize that , just like Samsung, this is the first implementation of Huawei's Always On Display, it's just to tick a marketing box, and many months, maybe more than a year must pass until you see a really meaningful implementation. Samsung also didn't display 3rd party app notifications at first, just missed calls and SMS messages (not even their own email app was integrated). The only company that had a good Always On Display from the beginning was LG.
It's too bad, because the Mate 10 Pro looks to be a really great phone otherwise.
My only worry is that Huawei seem in no rush to update the Always ON Display like Samsung did after only the S7. Huawei have had this Always On Display with only stock app support on 3 different phones now with the Mate 9 Pro, Mate 10 Pro and now the P20 Pro so that's almost 2 years without any change. Maybe now that more people demand it and they want to get closer to Samsung then they'll maybe speed up that update?
It is disappointing and I too can only see sms on mine (stock email app does not show)
I love an AOD but IMO in it's current form it is just not worth using.
after 2 monthes is possible that this problem isn't solvable? i wrote to huawei assistance but they have no emails or requests.... only me!!!! if nobody ask to implement this funcion, the problem stay for all us... the modder of huawey are locked by emui system and few mod are develops
Hello,
I switched from Lumia 920 to Nokia 8 about a month ago. But it often freezes and hangs and apps crash (Chrome, Camera, System UI). It's my first Android device after years of Windows Phones and I don't know if this is an expected behavior of Android. Is it?
Could this be a faulty device? Or maybe app incompatibilities? I use the Microsoft Launcher and TrueCaller and it happens quite often that Chrome crashes when I open TrueCaller (although I don't even use Chrome).
And I don't like the camera. I always liked taking pictures, but with this camera it is so annoying. The app often freezes the phone for minutes and is laggy overall. I tried OpenCamera and the Google Pixel Camera app and although they are better, they still lag or crash sometimes. And it takes very long to take a photo compared to all my previous devices (Lumia 920, Lumia 925, Lumia 950), even with HDR turned off.
I mean, I really like the hardware of the device and there is much to like about Android, but I really hate the inconsistent performance and lagginess of the software and since there is no soft reset key combo (at least I couldn't find one) like on Windows Phones I don't have as much trust in it than I had with my old phones and can't do anything, when the phone freezes.
Any tips for me to get a better experience or something?
I didn't have any freezes or crashes so I would try factory reset and if didn't help then RMA the phone.
As for the camera - lag in other apps maybe cause by above problems (Nokia's app is laggy even on my device so it's normal in this case).
mKay00 said:
Hello,
I switched from Lumia 920 to Nokia 8 about a month ago. But it often freezes and hangs and apps crash (Chrome, Camera, System UI). It's my first Android device after years of Windows Phones and I don't know if this is an expected behavior of Android. Is it?
Could this be a faulty device? Or maybe app incompatibilities? I use the Microsoft Launcher and TrueCaller and it happens quite often that Chrome crashes when I open TrueCaller (although I don't even use Chrome).
And I don't like the camera. I always liked taking pictures, but with this camera it is so annoying. The app often freezes the phone for minutes and is laggy overall. I tried OpenCamera and the Google Pixel Camera app and although they are better, they still lag or crash sometimes. And it takes very long to take a photo compared to all my previous devices (Lumia 920, Lumia 925, Lumia 950), even with HDR turned off.
I mean, I really like the hardware of the device and there is much to like about Android, but I really hate the inconsistent performance and lagginess of the software and since there is no soft reset key combo (at least I couldn't find one) like on Windows Phones I don't have as much trust in it than I had with my old phones and can't do anything, when the phone freezes.
Any tips for me to get a better experience or something?
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I found one version of Pixel Camera app caused lots of issues with my camera crashing and hanging so switched to a different version which was fine.
I had the system ui crashes a lot recently using Nova launcher so unistalled it last week so used standard launcher and then MS Launcher and Action launcher and no issues since, I think it was a problem somehow with Nova so I will try that again soon - my point is the launcher could be causing some issues so install it and test with standard launcher for a few days to make sure the phone is performing as it should or if the launcher is making the problems due to somethng strange going on.
I tried uninstalling some apps now and it seems that the performance has improved. But I want to test a little longer and then I install again to see which app makes problems. I uninstalled "Microsoft Launcher", "ESET Security", "VLC" and "ES File Explorer File Manager", btw.
And I am playing around with Tasker to make little changes, like turning off the sound it makes when I plug in the charger or that a caller will be announced via Text-to-Speech or that the screen wakes up when I get a new notification.
I am quite sure that I found the reason for the laggy experience. It seems that the Microsoft Outlook Calendar widget makes problems when pinned to the homescreen, even on the default launcher. As soon as I add the widget, it starts to lag and as soon as I remove it, it works again - even on Microsoft Launcher. Although it seems that either Oreo 8.1 or the latest update for Microsoft Outlook resolved the issue. At least there where no problems the whole day today with the widget on my homescreen.
I thought I let you know if anybody else has this problem. Now I start to really like the phone, especially with Oreo 8.1. I really hope HMD can fix the default camera app in the near future, which is the only problem left. And more settings for the Glance screen would be nice as well, so that I can keep it always on and have the option to see if there are new WhatsApp messages.
Truecaller has a problem on Android 8 where chrome crashes when it's launched, it's not just Nokia.
mKay00 said:
I am quite sure that I found the reason for the laggy experience. It seems that the Microsoft Outlook Calendar widget makes problems when pinned to the homescreen, even on the default launcher. As soon as I add the widget, it starts to lag and as soon as I remove it, it works again - even on Microsoft Launcher. Although it seems that either Oreo 8.1 or the latest update for Microsoft Outlook resolved the issue. At least there where no problems the whole day today with the widget on my homescreen.
I thought I let you know if anybody else has this problem. Now I start to really like the phone, especially with Oreo 8.1. I really hope HMD can fix the default camera app in the near future, which is the only problem left. And more settings for the Glance screen would be nice as well, so that I can keep it always on and have the option to see if there are new WhatsApp messages.
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Strange for me I had zero issues with MS Launcher, it was the fastest and most reliable.
For a few days I had Nine calendar, Outlook calendar and normal calendar widgets on home screens at the same time as I was trying to test which one I like more and I had no slow down.
Nova is working great for me on 8.1 also - after I did a brand new setup from scratch.
I found some issues with Action Launcher - not for speed but every so often the side swipe screens caused issues.
Default launcher is very fast but I just don't like it - no customisation or icon pack support,
BleedBlue said:
Truecaller has a problem on Android 8 where chrome crashes when it's launched, it's not just Nokia.
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The latest update of TrueCaller has fixed this issue.
shaunydub said:
Strange for me I had zero issues with MS Launcher, it was the fastest and most reliable.
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I have now zero issues as well and I am happy about my phone now. Although pinning the calendar widget of Outlook to my homescreen still makes my phone laggy. I don't know why, but I use now the calendar widget of MS Launcher which doesn't make any problems.
Haven't had a samsung phone since the 6 edge... I don't see an option to have notifications wake screen? The edge lighting doesn't seem to work with any of the apps. I do not want to turn on "Always on Display". Did a quick Google search and looks like wake screen notifications are no longer a feature for Samsung phones? Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
I too have noticed this. Coming from a oneplus 7 pro, any time either google voice would receive a message or google messages would receive a notification or even gmail, my screen would briefly turn on notifying me. Now after having switched to the s20 fe, while I do get an audio notification, I do not get any visual notification on the phone itself. I DO get a visual notification for text messages IF I USE samsung messages. Google voice and other applications continue to be only audio.
While I'm sure there are other apps that can trigger a screen wake, I'd like to not have to use an app, to make an app work like it had on previous phones. If switching to say 'nova launcher' or another launcher may resolve this issue, thats one thing as I have done that in the past, but I'm in hopes to be able to not have to install any additional apps to make the s20 fe act like my previous phone. I'm thinking my daughter's s8 even has a screen turn on for notifications she receives (though I could be wrong)
Thanks,
E|
I will say, while I originally stated I did not want to use any additional apps. AODNOTIFY is a great app! As always we should thank any and all of our modders and devs.
Thanks,
E|
yeah, I had similar experience. All of my searching only lead me to third party apps to solve. I'm not crazy about having to use another app just to wake up my screen when a notification comes in, but Glimpse Notifications is what I landed on and so far it's working well. It works as described, even with my s view cover case. I'm not sure yet if it has an effect on battery life so I'm keeping an eye on that over the next couple days, but at least it works as designed.
Bummer, was trying to avoid another app too. I tried Glimpse, but prefer AODNOTIFY. Thanks for the responses!
For those of you who took the plunge and updated to Android 11: could you share your findings about this update?
Are there any hiccups?
How's the battery łife compared to Android 10?
How's the new One UI running for you?
And last but not least: is a downgrade to 10 possible if needed? Or is there a new bootloader to prevent this?
Thank you in advance for sharing your findings!
Could I get the android 11 on a cheap ass Samsung Galaxy A01
I found the update to be stable and not have any of the bugs that folks talked about online. No blurry images with the camera, no weird battery drain, wifi issues, etc... I did however notice that the visible screen does not extend to the top and bottom of the glass. There is an 1/8 of an inch black border of wasted space. Also widgets now have a margin around them and they do not go full width of screen. I did have one app that stopped working, Kin Screen. Otherwise, it's working.
Beyond that, the phone now looks too much like an iphone. i have the swipe bar instead of the 3 buttons at the bottom of the screen, the iphone volume control and even notifications and the lock screen scream iphone. I do not like like this and want to go back to android 10. I have taken a look online and am finding instructions regarding downgrading from android 11 beta, but this is not beta, it's an official update that Samsung pulled.
Is there a way to downgrade without deleting my data and apps?
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I found the update to be stable and not have any of the bugs that folks talked about online. No blurry images with the camera, no weird battery drain, wifi issues, etc... I did however notice that the visible screen does not extend to the top and bottom of the glass. There is an 1/8 of an inch black border of wasted space. Also widgets now have a margin around them and they do not go full width of screen. I did have one app that stopped working, Kin Screen. Otherwise, it's working.
Beyond that, the phone now looks too much like an iphone. i have the swipe bar instead of the 3 buttons at the bottom of the screen, the iphone volume control and even notifications and the lock screen scream iphone. I do not like like this and want to go back to android 10. I have taken a look online and am finding instructions regarding downgrading from android 11 beta, but this is not beta, it's an official update that Samsung pulled.
Is there a way to downgrade without deleting my data and apps?
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Thanks for sharing, I'll stick to Anrdoid 10
Regarding the downgrade to 10 from 11, maybe this guide can help you. Since the home_csc is used your data should be safe, however I would definitely make a back-up of your important files, pictures, WhatsApp-data/files etc before flashing the Odin-files!
I found that I can reload the android 10 firmware via Samsung smart switch. The only hixkup is that, doing so wipes data. I have backed up the phone using idrive. I'm just concerned that when I reload fro. Idrive it might restore Android 11. I'm not sure what files get backed up. Maybe I will look into oden if I can reload the firmware without touching apps and data.
Thankfully I froze the OTA updater 2 months ago. No Android 11 for me!
Hello,
After moving to one ui 3/android 11 on my galaxy s10 exynos, I'm now unable to change the icon set on poco launcher. It always default to system icons.
Any solution to this issue?
Anyone knows if the low microphone volume on call still exits?
I have s10+ exynos version and this problem since update to ui one 2.5 or 2.0 i can't remember.
After reboot is ok, if i made a call more than 20minutes the problem appear during the call.
Currently i have voice assistance turned off, all bixby updates uninstalled. But still have this problem. I also installed app Sound Analyser and calibrate microphone it works but after some time happen again.
The other person, on call, ear me so low or cant ear me at all. This doesnt happen if i use whatsapp, messeger, skype, etc.
The problem is described here:
S10+ microphone problem
Hi everyone, the S10+ is one hell of a phone. Fast, reliable, simple great. However, in the past month or so, i had telephone issues. People couldn't hear me clear, they said i sound like im passing trough a tunnel. After it got updated to android 10, the problem disappeared for a brief period...
eu.community.samsung.com
and here:
How to fix my mic after android 10 update? - Android Community
and here:
Since updating to Android 10, the volume is very low, approximately 50% of volume before the update. - Android Community
Android 11 still have this problem?
If anyone know how fix this, on android 10, please tell share.
Regards
there are some small changes/feature removals that I dislike in oneui 3.0
1. mirroring screen with chromcast is not possible natively. You need to install a third party app or google home. However, google home does not allow for screen resolution change, which was possible with the native mirroring feature in oneui 2.0
2. Split-screen seems to behave differently. When you habe two apps in split screen and you swipe up from bottom (home button), the whole split screen setup disappears and you return to your homescreen. In oneui 2.0, it minimized the upper split screen app and return home screen only for the lower app. Maybe this was due to good lock multistar addon, but even with that some addon on oneui 3.0, the behaviour is different, in my opinion worse compared to one ui 2.0.