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This thread is somewhat different from others. I am fully aware that overclocking requires a custom kernel however with the Application "Galaxy Tuner" my CPU on my SGS i9000 can go 1.2GHZ with a custom Voodo Kernel not supporting Overclock. I am not sure what method the guy uses and he only allows it to be used 2 minutes at a time, so I was wondering if this would be just as risky / safe to do as going into a new kernel and doing such.
If the first is not possible and I would have to use a custom kernel as it is safer, please PM me some kind of contact information as I am afraid I will break my Phone as I use a custom Voodo kernel + DArkys EXTREME ROM 9.X
Still need to know wheter or not it is safe to overclock the way the application "Galaxy Tuner" does or if its SAFER to do it with a custom OC'ing kernel.
If last, I need some help over Skype / msn
I expect an answer when so many viewed this thread....
cocopara said:
I expect an answer when so many viewed this thread....
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I wouldn't expect anything, just because people like me view it doesn't mean we know anything about it.....why don't you email the author of the app.
spectre85 said:
I wouldn't expect anything, just because people like me view it doesn't mean we know anything about it.....why don't you email the author of the app.
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Exactly, views don't mean answers! It can be frustrating seeing a lot of views and no answer, but you must acknowledge that viewers may be looking for the answer themselves or just plain don't know. Be patient.
Well. Still, I am wondering about the overclocking that The application uses (Galaxy Tuner) because it manages to overclock a phone WITHOUT a custom OC'ing kernel. Hence i am wondering if it is just as SAFE to do as using a custom kernel.
If not, I need some guidance as I dont know how I can switch my kernel and update my ROM
The code to overclock existed on stock kernel sources apparently, it was just commented out.
When OC in this app is enabled, the CPU governor is changed to performance, and the clocks were changed. So I'd wager it's equivalent in terms of safety to a custom kernel.
Why only do the above for 5 minutes at a time when a custom kernel allows you to always have an overlclock? Just use a custom kernel..
I'm using a custom kernel to overclock to 1.2ghz and my battery is exactly the same as it's always been. I'm also underclocking to 100mhz with setCPU when the phone is idle so that's a big help. It's perfectly stable on mine but CPUs can differ so I suggest that if you do flash a custom kernel with overclock that you start lower and stress test just to make sure there are no issues. Also, don't save any voltage control settings as default until you have applied and stress tested.
Also, make sure to keep a spare kernel in zip form and always have backups.
I use super optimized kernel. Though I am looking for a 500-1000 HZ OC kernel. Any suggestion?
I don't know what method this app is using, but just due to my own paranoia I would say using a kernel with OC is safer. Too many horror stories of apps bricking phones due to small errors or badly written instructions.
Beyond that, it just takes experimenting. I am currently using DamienGTO's Ultimate Kernel OCed to 1200 and have had no problems with it, but there are a lot of high quality kernels available down in the Android Development forum. I suggest you install SGS Kernel Flasher from the market (a great app, makes kernel flashing painless and dead simple), download the newest versions of each kernel that says it supports OC, and spend a day flashing and testing. Just remember to disable any OC/UV, lagfixes or tweaks between flashings.
hello..
i am currently using primeHD v8.0 custom rom and i am on STOCK kernel..
i want to make my x8 more fast like while scrolling or app open/close etc.. , with better gaming, and more better battery life.
i have the following enhancements in my mind... i have read enough of reviews but seriously i wanted to collect them at one thread and ask about opinions..
1. primeHD v8.0
2. oc at like 710Mhz
3. v6 supercharger
4. chainfire3d with powervr plugin
5. smartass v2 cpu governor
now i came to a personal conclusion that the above 5 are certainly good and will definitely boost performance [i havent tried any of them yet except the first one obviously]
and then i see some other threads or tweaks/mods like
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621808
2. e15 optimiser [i read t reviews.. and unfortunately it doesnt seem well]
3. jimdem droid tweak.. [this has particularly good reviews.. please take this into consideration]
now i have the following questions:
1. do i need the above mentioned 5 ? i mean all of them or some of them..
2. if i install all 5 mentioned, will there be bugs, forceclose, or any problem like rebooting .. if used TOGETHER? [exclude the overclock while answering this, as i know it depends on the hardware.. so..]
3. if anyone has installed or tested all of them please give a reply.. based on performance with games and at the same time improved battery life and day-to-day multitasking.
4. i mentioned 2 other tweaks too.. do i need them if i already installed the v6 supercharger?
5. does jimdemdroid tweak does any better thing at primehd v8.0 for PERFORMANCE and issues??
6. i know these scripts and mods involve libraries which at the system level do therir work.. how.. i dont know.. i a noob.. but anyway.. please provide a concise list of the things which are significantly good and will seriously yield!
if any better mod/tweak is available, please do share.. and remember i am on STOCK kernel with a custom rom!
does chainfire3d realy support the x8 gpu? i think not
Use Crazy home launcher, it has few features, but its the BEST for speed
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SafiXS said:
does chainfire3d realy support the x8 gpu? i think not
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Yes its support
I thank you for nothing sorry lol
-=PrimeHD=-8-=Alfs Kernel=-
chainfire3d works on x8.. as per this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294198
..and please can someone relevantly answer all my questions??..
a lots of questionlets give a shortest.Here what i do to maximized my phone
1.stable rom-primeHD is quite stable
2.oc not more than 700-higher oc not make big diff except eat ur batt.
3.play with others cymod performance setting for best result
4.use smartassv2-balancing between batt life and performance
5.use RAM manager pro instead superchager for easy switch RAM requirement
6.use swap for more RAM
7.turn off unused funtions for more batt life only on when i need it.
8.use Titanium backup to freeze or uninstall any system apk that me dont use
God willing,ur phone will be fast,stable & have good battery life.many custom roms has build in tweak so install others will bring more harm unless u know what u doing
cheers
zmuhammx said:
a lots of questionlets give a shortest.Here what i do to maximized my phone
1.stable rom-primeHD is quite stable
2.oc not more than 700-higher oc not make big diff except eat ur batt.
3.play with others cymod performance setting for best result
4.use smartassv2-balancing between batt life and performance
5.use RAM manager pro instead superchager for easy switch RAM requirement
6.use swap for more RAM
7.turn off unused funtions for more batt life only on when i need it.
8.use Titanium backup to freeze or uninstall any system apk that me dont use
God willing,ur phone will be fast,stable & have good battery life.many custom roms has build in tweak so install others will bring more harm unless u know what u doing
cheers
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so that means that i dont need v6supercharger.. rom manager pro is a good alternative..??..
and do i need chainfire3d??.. to play hd games etc.. and the point you said about cymod performance settings.. i did not get it.. i mean how to use these settings??.. please tell..
and swap wouldnt be possible on stock rom i suppose...
bhavneesh said:
so that means that i dont need v6supercharger.. rom manager pro is a good alternative..??..
and do i need chainfire3d??.. to play hd games etc.. and the point you said about cymod performance settings.. i did not get it.. i mean how to use these settings??.. please tell..
and swap wouldnt be possible on stock rom i suppose...
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Its up to you man,
1.both of it is RAM manager but u cant install both in 1 time.I cant tell which one is good but the easy and safe one is RAM manager PRO.
2.Chainfire basically is Graphic card emulator to run games for other card.also its can reduce games quality to minimize RAM usage.so its nothing to do to boost up ur performance.use it only if u want to play certain games
3.Its Cyanogenmod setting like cpu setting,compcache RAM usage,WM head size,etc options.
in my opinion these setting is the best:
a)in cpu setting,use smartassv2 governor & set cpu below700
b)Comp RAM=26%
c)use JIT,Eneble surface,use 16bit,allow purging,lock home=ON
d)VM heap size=32
options may vary for diff.ROMS by default setting but u always can check for fully options by make shortcut for cyanogenmod setting.
long press on homescreen>shortcuts>cyanogenmod settings>Performance settings.
4.yes,some ppl says its no use to swap on stock kernel but if u on costum,believe me,its worth it
cheers
zmuhammx said:
Its up to you man,....
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thanks a lot.. i got all my answers.. um.. actually i got a prob here... i was trying the v6 supercharger.. but i couldnt install it .. it said i had crappy version of busybox.. so i went to android market.. got busybox installer 7.9.2 [latest] and installed it... which while installing said that it couldnt correctly be installed as some old version of busybox was hindering it.. and it said to remove any version of the previous busybox... after that.. i anyway.. tried to run the v6 script through Terminal emulator.. NOTHING HAPENNED!!.. i exited terminal.. did a reboot.. what i get is a soft brick!!.. i was on primehd rom and stock kernel!
edit: i got the prob.. i used 1.20 version of busybox.. which bricked my phone.. any way i have installed ram manager pro now... and am not suffering from any problem now.. thanks !
and 1 more thing.. i couldnt find the comp ram settings anywhere.. others i have done..
npglad to help
Not sure about stock kernel.maybe stock cant support or rom itself
sometimes dev will set it to 26% by default & remove the option to prevent somebody mess up with it.not sure about primeHD.use search button to have some answer.If u couldnt find a satisfaction answer,u always can open new thread maybe some advance users or dev himself can confirm it.
zmuhammx said:
npglad to help
Not sure about stock kernel.maybe stock cant support or rom itself
sometimes dev will set it to 26% by default & remove the option to prevent somebody mess up with it.not sure about primeHD.use search button to have some answer.If u couldnt find a satisfaction answer,u always can open new thread maybe some advance users or dev himself can confirm it.
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thanks.. i installed the rom manager pr.. it works like a charm... but another prob arose.. i tried to do smartass v2 governor module via terminal.. with the steps written as to how to do it... it gets incorporate in the cpu settings also.. but only for sometime.. ie .. when i restart my phone.. the smartass governor is deleted.. i have to again and again do that.. i don know if ram manager is hindering with it... i have set it to balance!.. any solution??..
sorry,bro...
cant help u with this one.Never had the chance to play much on stock kernel(unlocked bootloader after 3 days bought it).If search button cant helped,I think u need a new thread.many Ppl here actually read only a title.they only step in if they got something to share.Good Luck!
Alright. I've searched the forums for 4 hours trying to find different answers to my questions and I haven't had success in all. So, in case I'm that much of an idiot for asking a question that's been answered 1000 times, I'll be happy if you point me in the right direction instead of "politely" asking me to use the search button .
My GF bought an Ace which we were unable to root until we stumbled across the fact the 5830M differs from other models in some ways. We finally got it done yesterday with the help of this thread (I should add the her sole intention of rooting the phone was to expand her Ace's internal memory to be able to install more apps). and we are supposed to partion her SD card (32GB) today. However, after going through so many threads, and deciding CWM will do the partition, we are now unsure about wether we should switch ROM's or keep stock.
So, my question is: Is there any disadvantage of having a rooted phone with its stock ROM? Or better yet: Is there a reason as to why I SHOULD change ROM's?
Thanks in advance.
Hey there,
At this time, there are 3 custom ROMs that are truly different: Razodroid, Retribution ROM and the rest of the deodexed ROMs (2 or 3, I believe).
Let's take each on its own:
Razodroid offers the following:
EXT4 File System
Link2sd
New lock screen
Hard root
Bravia engin
14toogle
Galaxy SII CloCk
New icon pack
Custom bootanimation
Defult *ICS* theme
Ext4 script
Msg limit increased n skins added
Tweaks added
Miui music player added
New google play
All apps updated
New tw Modded
Busybox(latest)
New Launcher
ICS keyboard
Deodex
Zip Aligned System Apps
Sign all apk n zip
Swipe To Clear Notification
Battery saver Tweak
Better Performance
Battery Life increased
Faster SDCARD Read/Write Speed
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In other words, it will bring you a slight performance boost, more juice, a different look and some (currently buggy/not so smooth) new features such as swipe to clear or 14 toggles.
Retribution ROM has less features. It's mostly about performance, but it's still in a beta stage, so there's more to come:
Smooth Scroll Mod
Build.prop tweaks
Flash Player pre-included
Beats Audio Mod pre-included
Updated libs and modules for better perfomance
Completely ad-free
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Both of these ROMs come along with Rafael's kernel, which adds support to init.d, iptables and cpu governors, among other features. They're useful for running scripts at boot, using firewalls (e.g. DroidWall) and changing the phone's governor (as the name suggests).
Last comes the deodexed ROMs that have no additional features. As any deodexed ROM, they remove odex files, giving you some extra internal space (at the cost of a slight performance hit) and allow easier theming, allowing you to get, for example, an ICS (deodexed) theme for the S5830I (it's made by rajrocks, search for it if you're interested).
To sum it up, there are no disadvantages of having a rooted phone with the stock ROM. Actually, you have almost no reason to get a custom ROM unless you're interested in the new features they bring, especially that performance/battery tweaks can be applied using scripts or manually without needing a custom ROM, if you know what you're doing.
EDIT: You should however consider getting Rafael's latest kernel for the reasons mentioned above: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818830
Very detailed answer. Thanks!
TBH, I think we'll just keep the current ROM (if it was up to me, I'd be tweaking the hell out of the phone) seeing that it isn't really necessary. If we do, we'll be picking option # 1.
Thanks again.
The only disadvantage of installing a custom rom (i think) is the bigger chance of losing your phone's warranty
GermainZ said:
Hey there,
At this time, there are 3 custom ROMs that are truly different: Razodroid, Retribution ROM and the rest of the deodexed ROMs (2 or 3, I believe).
Let's take each on its own:
Razodroid offers the following:
In other words, it will bring you a slight performance boost, more juice, a different look and some (currently buggy/not so smooth) new features such as swipe to clear or 14 toggles.
Retribution ROM has less features. It's mostly about performance, but it's still in a beta stage, so there's more to come:
Both of these ROMs come along with Rafael's kernel, which adds support to init.d, iptables and cpu governors, among other features. They're useful for running scripts at boot, using firewalls (e.g. DroidWall) and changing the phone's governor (as the name suggests).
Last comes the deodexed ROMs that have no additional features. As any deodexed ROM, they remove odex files, giving you some extra internal space (at the cost of a slight performance hit) and allow easier theming, allowing you to get, for example, an ICS (deodexed) theme for the S5830I (it's made by rajrocks, search for it if you're interested).
To sum it up, there are no disadvantages of having a rooted phone with the stock ROM. Actually, you have almost no reason to get a custom ROM unless you're interested in the new features they bring, especially that performance/battery tweaks can be applied using scripts or manually without needing a custom ROM, if you know what you're doing.
EDIT: You should however consider getting Rafael's latest kernel for the reasons mentioned above: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818830
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Will those ROMS also work on s5839i?
Hello!
Can u guys give me tips about which combination of rom/karnel is for you the best for gaming....Gta:vice city etc...
I try so many different roms and karnels, but even now i dont find real one.
Thanks in advice
Nemivsek said:
Hello!
Can u guys give me tips about which combination of rom/karnel is for you the best for gaming....Gta:vice city etc...
I try so many different roms and karnels, but even now i dont find real one.
Thanks in advice
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Well, if you don't care about the camera, you can use one of Diablo's performance kernels (some are very experimental, though) - that would give you somewhat more RAM, for now you can overclock it up to 1881,600 Mhz, you can also set CPU governor to performance (watch out, you can melt your phone . From my observations, GB and JB roms (in general) are much less laggy than the ICS ones when it comes to games, IMHO there are few JB roms that are enough for daily use, just search the ones with some GPU tweaks implemented. For now, you can't get much more than this.
Sorry for my English
Now i have CM10 and devils karnel but game like is vice city does even not start. I have black screen. Before i have some Gamerz Rom and there i was smooth playing Gta but screen was flashing so i decide to search other roms.
About overlocking. If i overlock cpu in devils manager or anyelse similar program my phone crash. The only program which i sucessfull OC my phone was Tegrak.
Strange, when flashing rom and kernel, did you do a full wipe / factory reset, wipe cache / dalvik, fix permissions etc.? If not, try it. You can also have some hardware issue - every phone is a bit different, maybe yours can't handle some lower voltages / higher freq. that's why it crashes, but it's very strange that Tegrak can OC it without problems, and other apps can't.
Anyway, do a full wipe, relfash rom and kernel step by step, it should help.
Will try Thanks anyway :good:
It's not all about rom and kernel. Try latest LazerDroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978061 I'm sure it'll make a difference. All those tweaks have huge impact on gaming performance.
Hi there, I have question how you guys speed up your jelly bean performance on ace?
Maybe u will tell something new for me
For example I:
* Use memory managment - zRam to max, allow purging of assets ON, kernel samepage merging ON
* Limit background processes to 2-3 (in dev options, unfortunately after every reboot that needs re-apply)
* After reboot I try to force stop every non-system app, whats running
(using task manager to see whats running)
* Using only one widget
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And at this moment my task killer shows 140mb free on CM10.1 (bieltv.3, RC2 release)
Maybe you should flash Adrenaline Engine and install Seeder + Greenfy to keep ram usage to low level. The first two things I mentioned works very well on stock GB and make the phone really fast. Also you can use CAREFULLY Pimp my rom to apply mods to speed up more the rom. Be aware that you can't do that much because the phone is very not powerful and the rom is not optimized at 100% so above some level of smoothness you can't go. P.S. You can also use a swap partition or the kernel patcher Memod+Swapall.
Inviato dal mio GT-S5830
Pushing free mem into 50 or 75MB, smartassV2 or smartassH3 + sio, Greenify, replacing Launcher2 with the launcher from XperiaZ.
For swap I use Swapper 2 from Google Play.
Is it best of kind? and how good is performance?
angelus636 said:
Is it best of kind? and how good is performance?
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I am sorry. I did not see your post.
Do you mean Swapper 2?
It is just an interface. You need a kernel which supports swap (like the one of the Cm 10.1 builds or erikcas' AOKP ROM). The performance depends on the kernel. The app just invokes busybox commands.
There are few apps that manage swap. If you want a simple one for swap files, use this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.azasoft.free.swapper
If you want it to have more features and/or support a swap partition (which is faster and better as it is mounted even if the phone is connected to a PC). The biggest advantage besides that is its feature to clean the swap partition when it gets full. If the app does not (like the first one), it will be lagging like hell.
So I recommend Swapper 2. :good:
However, make sure that you have a class 10 SD card. Other classes will slow down the phone. And the life of the card will be decreased due to the many read and write actions.
You can transform you rom on a Bareboned Rom to make it as fast as possible, e.i. deleting all useless apps!! instead of using apps to freeze others as Greenify, TB, AndroidTaskers... that of course is runnig in background, so the best way to stop all background processes is removing the app that produce these processes xDDD
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You can transform you rom on a Bareboned Rom to make it as fast as possible, e.i. deleting all useless apps!! instead of using apps to freeze others as Greenify, TB, AndroidTaskers... that of course is runnig in background, so the best way to stop all background processes is removing the app that produce these processes xDDD
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Yes, probably one of the best methods. However, you will have to do that again for every new release.
angelus636 said:
Hi there, I have question how you guys speed up your jelly bean performance on ace?
Maybe u will tell something new for me
And at this moment my task killer shows 140mb free on CM10.1 (bieltv.3, RC2 release)
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JB is already faster than GB.
Thats enough for ace.
Sent from my GT-S5830 using xda app-developers app
lol but gb is much more stable i think.. thats why some users prefer stock roms instead latests jb roms