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Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
iamwyim said:
I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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IT depends on the country where you live, but in most places you can get a Sony Xperia xz1 or honor v10 for the same price. Both with better standby battery life and unlockable bootloaders. The cameras of those phones are also a bit better.
Everything is great here , even the camera if you use google camera you will get very nice pictures , but the only thing i dont like on this device is the design, I like the new screen aspect ratio
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
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To be honest, the camera is not as good as the flagship phone available in nowadays (or even at the time it released). The noise on the photo is visible at night time (sometimes even in day time). I can only say that the camera is just about average compare with the mid-tier phone.
The battery life is okay to me, but I always turn on the battery saved mode and turn off the Glance.
I hope this answers might help you to make up your decision.
I bought mine a few weeks ago and have been loving it since. I came froma Moto Z Play so I had a lot to consider before buying. First, battery life, no Snapdragon 8xx can come close to the Snapdragon 6xx series. And also stock Android experience is the best experience for me. So I'm left with Honor View 10, Nokia 8, or wait for Nokia 7 Plus.
Nokia 7 Plus will have a great battery life nut has gorilla glass 3 and no OIS.
Honor View 10 has better camera and battery life but has EMUI and a Kirin processor (even though it's a at Snapdragon 8xx level). However it does support project Treble, so if you wanna root around it should be easier.
The Nokia 8, which is good but has subpar camera and subpar battery life. But considering how small the battery is and how powerful the processor is, it does have a better battery life but would've been better if Nokia added more. And camera is fine at least better than my previous phone as I just needed some decent photo. Google Pixel camera app made it waaaaaayyyyy better.
I hope it helps you decide.
I find the battery life superb, most days i have over 70% left with moderate use or 40%'ish with heavy use without WiFi using data only.
Here in Chile it's price is way affordable than other flagships from Samsung, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. So, having that in consideration, plus it's hardware and software is the best deal for what you get.
Battery life is great
Screen quality and brightness in sunlight also great
Sound i find it really good
Camera is good too, maybe it isn't way good at night as other flagships with lower apertures, but it gives really decent pictures. Video is good also, very good quality and stabilization is decent enough. And it's surround recording sistem is really nice.
So hardware wise is one of the best options you can get here for it's price. It's a Nokia so you would expect a sturdy phone, almost unbreakable lol.
In software you get the latest updates really quickly.
Maybe it doesn't have unlockable bootloader easily as other phones with Snapdragon SoCs, but having cutting edge updates almost same as Google pixel devices I would say maybe it's not necessary to have much development. Things I've noticed over the years is that most developments that triumphs are those that make ROMs as stock as possible.
So if you like stock Android go for it I don't thing you'll get disappointed. But if you are a camera maniatic , maybe you should consider some other device
I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
Considering batter life and camera performance its most probably the P20 pro. But if you want to install custom roms and have a great developer scene you should stick with the OP6.
BTW I've never heard the op6 had a terrible battery life really.
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
varignet said:
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
freddyttt said:
Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
varignet said:
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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With 4h of very light tasks, on P20 Pro you'll end up with 50% battery remaining or even more. With heavy usage (a full day in 4g,high accuracy location always ON, 2 hours of music streaming, 30 mins of heavy gaming, taking pics etc...) I got 4-5h of sot with 15-20% left.
The screen latency was fixed with updates. I overall recommend it! If you're looking for great battery and a great camera in a smartphone, this one is the best right now. Some review adresses poor camera performance, but in real life it's outstanding: zoom, low light and the large amount of setting makes it the most versatile camera out there.
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I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
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Very tough one that.
Camera is better on the p20 pro besides video which is superior on the oneplus 6
Battery is a tough one, the p20 pro has a huge battery but at the same time it's not the most efficient device in the world, i average about 8 hours SOT per full charge, where as with my oneplus 5 i used to average 10 hours maxing out one time with a mental 14 hours SOT, the pro simply can't beat that, with that being said though the oneplus 6 hasnt upgraded it's battery afaik so it would probably even out with the p20 pro or perhaps be worse.
in regards to software, with a few tweaks the p20 pro is a very well customized device with all the options you'll ever need.
The oneplus is really minimal which is superb for pace, but you'll have more ROM's to flash than you'll know what to do with.
Aftermarket development is totally one sided with the Oneplus 6 getting a lot of attention and some great developers whereas the p20 has erm ? 2 i think
CPU / GPU: Oneplus 6 hands down, the 845 is a crazy processor which will never slow down plus it's very efficient and seldom overheats, you'd have to throw a lot at it.
The P20 on the other hand gets warm at times when very little is going on.
If i had the choice now? I think i'd probably get the oneplus 6 although i'd probably be looking over the fence at the p20 pro, it's camera is just amazing.
Depends what you want pal, i don't think theres a wrong decision here, they're both great devices.
Just to confuse you even more, why don't you wait for the pixel 3 xl, it's looking decent.
P20 Pro is definitely the one to get if you're looking for great battery life+cameras, I've heard about the battery issues on the OP6 too, OP pushed an update that disabled the always on display because of poor battery life the P20 Pro should fare much much better. Definitely get the P20 Pro if you can, it's just a better phone overall, speakers are top notch, performance is great and the chin is smaller in person, haven't had any issues so far.
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
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Yes p20 pro... my short lists of phones
v30
s9+
note8
op6
u12+
ive got zero regrets choosing this phone. the battery and camera are amazing. the Op6 was in the running until i looked at phots posted from real users and NOT professional review sights. I use Nova pro and glance plus to handle my notifications and AOD. in short. amazing. love the blacks(screen) this phone produces.
Sample indoor low light
This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.
Three months is a long time. I was getting impatient and got it after 30 days. I'll say I agree with the speaker being easy to cover, that being said you can just turn the phone upside down.
1) just turn device upside down.
2) weird thing indeed
3) pretty okay for the price, not best display ever, but not uncomfortable to me..
4)there's a choice here, if you make it too wide, you make it hard to use with a single hand...
5) pretty great here, I don't know what you call "medium use", but here I'm getting all day long (lasting around 25% in the end of it) with 7 hours of screen on... I consider it as hard use. It is not great compared to what, exactly?
6)never used it, can't opine...
7)I used to be a vanilla guy, miui stock is just awful for me. But, xiaomi.eu rom is pretty great, I believe you could give it a try. It is just what miui should be...
Cheers
I wasn't pleased too when i went from Galaxy s8 to one plus 5t about the display but you will get used to it believe me , it's a good display you will not notice any pixel after some time , almost every phone nowadays comes in FHD+ except high end Samsung , besides it's 6'4 inch it's really big
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And you're completely wrong about the battery life maybe you have a faulty unit because the battery is amazing I'm getting 7 to 9 SOT
In my opinion:
1) Agree with you, but although I always (almost) use headphones it doesnt bother me. But, you can flip the phone to avoid this scenario...
2) Never noticed.
3) It is really not an ultra sharp display, but it is far from S3, which was ~300ppi, K20 is ~400ppi. Amoled pentile will hardly give an sharp display on FHD+ displays.
4) You are a long time whitout upgrading, thin phones are a trend since 2018. Last decent 16:9 phone was Huawei Mate 10.
5) Luckily you didnt buy other phones as this one have a great battery life on today standards.
6) It is necessary some time to get used and increase accuracy on gestures.
7) Having had mainly Samsungs, LGs, Motos, Huaweis and Xiaomis, I think MIUI is on par with EMUI (Huawei) and better than Samsung/LG/Moto.
Edit: Item 5. According to GSMArena, battery on K20 stands ~45% longer than Note5 for video playback. ~15% more for talking time, and ~25% more for browsing.
I don't know if the K20 Pro is different from the Mi 9T Pro but i can't agree on the unsharp display. Maybe with a magnifying glass but it is as sharp as any other phone i had before including my P30. Same for the battery life, i can easily hit 10 hours SOT in a day without having to charge it. Tried gestures, works well for me. The thin display isn't as good for videos, yes but overall it's quite nice to use/ handle. Also i'm okay with MIUI. It looks pretty nice and got some good customization options and it's certainly better than EMUI. But i can agree on it being a bit weird to use if you're used to stock Android.
Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?
Turbine1991 said:
This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.
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hmmm no way its comparable , fyi i still have mine retired S3 , a sammy user since galaxy S , size wise k20 pro its pretty standard , note series i is always consider a bigger size phone , similar one perhaps might be mi max ? battery seem good so far , sorry but older sammy phones model, battery life always fail me , gestures , never use , maybe i am old school , miui does take a while to get used to , just throw in a poco launcher ,never like miui messy home screen , and the price you paid for a sd855 , not sure what country you are from , a samsung comes with exynos chipset most of the time , cant expect top quality hardware in all aspect ?
1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant
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1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant
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+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.
I gotta say that I think the battery life is absolutely insane (I came from a jailbroken iPhone X, but had tons of Xiaomis etc before). I charge it every evening but sometimes I just dont, because I got 60+ % and it jsut doesnt feel right.
I use the MIUI 11 ROM from xiaomi.eu, and I really loved MIUI since MIUI 6/7. I enjoyed some extra features(really great dark mode, always on display, dual apps, ...) and the visual look of it. As far as I know there are already quite a lot of roms with stock android for the phone.
Robbo.5000 said:
+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.
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You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.
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You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.
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My main issues are
Data Harvesting - on a worse scale than Google
Ads - which are convoluted to turn off, though it's supposed to be easier in MIUI 11
Bloatware - There is an immense amount of bloat, most of which cannot be removed. Compare the running services of a freshly booted phone running MIUI with, say, an AOSP ROM and see the vast increase MIUI is running, the majority if which you have no idea what or why.
It was developed to be, and still is to some degree, an iOS clone.
There were others and if I were to revert back to MIUI I'd remember what they were.
Turbine1991 said:
Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?
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Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.
The screen doesn't seem pixelated to me. Perhaps you're used to higher resolution displays. I've upgraded from the OnePlus 5 and haven't seen a reduction in image quality.
Gestures work fine for me. I didn't need an adjustment period, they were pretty intuitive and back works pretty much every time (with no accidental back swipes), while recents works like 9/10 times.
I don't have a problem with covering the speaker. When watching YouTube I grip the phone by the middle section with one hand, I don't hold it with both hands like when you play games.
Battery life isn't extraordinary, but it's decent compared to my OnePlus 5.
You can debloat most MIUI ROMs using the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool.
Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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xiaomi.eu is the way to go
Okay, real talk
point 5 is straight up trolling?
I have to charge mine like once in 2 days and you're talking about not great battery life - what the hell
A full charge gets me like 11 sometimes even 12 hours SoT with medium/normal usage (youtube, spotify, browsing, mails etc. - basically everything except games).
Do you game all day long or what?
what battery life do you expect anyway? Theres not many devices which can even last that long as the K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro does (with somewhat similar pefomance obviously)
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Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.
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OP must have a defective unit (battery, display). There is no way the display is 'poor' quality, compared to my 6T its much sharper and vivid. Battery life is also one of the best I have seen (less than 2% discharge overnight) I have been playing games on Dolphin, PPSSPP, etc and a full charge can easily last 4+ hours, and that's using emulators which are extreme battery hogs. Xiaomi have been pretty transparent about how and when they collect our data by giving us optout options nearly everywhere, which is something I cant say about other shady companies out there who are in the same line of business. Besides, data harvesting and adds can easily be tackled by debloating/flashing EU rom, where the 1st done doesn't even need root.
Finally coming from OOS the MIUI can be a pain to use but now I am beginning to like the features that it offers, for example, full-screen mode and gestures which I never thought would make my life so much easier. All in all this phone has been a wonderful upgrade for me and I couldn't be any happier.
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Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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whats weird is many of mine country already gotten android 10 update , i didnt received any
Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
So I've had the phone for the better part of a month and my takeaway from owning the device is that whilst is not the best or does it have any killer features that stand out above any other phone I've used. It does everything that it does really very well
The auto brightness is basically perfect.
The camera is reliable, it's not the best. The video is a bit lacking, but everything else about it is very good.
Is probably not the fastest at navigating between apps and multitasking but when I use the device it's reliably smooth in operation.
The battery isn't as good as my previous device, Poco F3, however, it gets me through the day and it's reliable in battery drain.
Notifications work unlike MIUI
Signal is much better compared to my 7T Pro
I can use speaker phone in my car and the other side can hear me clearly, couldn't do this on the 7T or F3
The screen is accurate and well balanced
I could go on
The phone doesn't have anything amazing that will make you want to go out and buy it or talk about how amazing it is, but once you just use it day in day out as the tool phones are now, it becomes the best phone I've used as a package.
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So I've had the phone for the better part of a month and my takeaway from owning the device is that whilst is not the best or does it have any killer features that stand out above any other phone I've used. It does everything that it does really very well
The auto brightness is basically perfect.
The camera is reliable, it's not the best. The video is a bit lacking, but everything else about it is very good.
Is probably not the fastest at navigating between apps and multitasking but when I use the device it's reliably smooth in operation.
The battery isn't as good as my previous device, Poco F3, however, it gets me through the day and it's reliable in battery drain.
Notifications work unlike MIUI
Signal is much better compared to my 7T Pro
I can use speaker phone in my car and the other side can hear me clearly, couldn't do this on the 7T or F3
The screen is accurate and well balanced
I could go on
The phone doesn't have anything amazing that will make you want to go out and buy it or talk about how amazing it is, but once you just use it day in day out as the tool phones are now, it becomes the best phone I've used as a package.
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Thing is my oneplus is a better phone than the pixel
I am not trying to downplay the pixel its just for a new phone/upgrade its not what I thought it would be
If it works for you great and I genuinely mean that
Going to give it a few more days but I can honestly see myself switching back I miss the fluidity and charging speed of my oneplus
I only got the P7 because the carrier I'm with would only give me a better deal if I got a new phone. It's been nearly 3 months and still haven't used it other than to take pictures and see how it runs lol. It's a quirky thing.
I do have plans for it down the road, once it's rooted with a custom ROM, but won't be using it as a primary device. 128 GB without an SD card slot was what killed it for me. I know most phones don't have the slot these days, but with specs similar enough to my S10 with 512 GB and the card slot, I've just stuck with using that. I know the P7 has a better battery and charges faster, but the extra storage is more important for what I need. Not bad as a back-up device though.
I have a pixel 7 after almost 3 years with the OnePlus 7pro and I was the same... OxigenOS have a lot more stuff than pixel except for the exclusive stuff. I was missing my OnePlus a lot and hold this P7 for a month or more... After that I went back to the OnePlus and noticed the quality of the phone. OnePlus felt so cheap in my hand and idk, it was not the same. So yes I understand your feeling about OP7pro it was a hell of a phone but , I think pixel 7 is just more premium feeling and a "mature OS" nut fun but mature.
Oneplus have a great deal on the 11 at the moment I can get £180.00 trade in on the 7 pro plus - free buds plus if I link my device and a 5% student beans I have got the price down £400 very tempting
I went from the OnePlus 6t to the pixel 6 and I kinda felt the same way. I knew it was a better phone in theory with higher specs and all, but the 6t had a better screen to me and seemed faster in charging and smoothness at first. However, the camera on the pixel was waaaay better and I was happy with that trade off. Fast forward a year and I got a good trade in deal from the pixel 6 to the 7 and it is a way better screen than my 6. Not much else other than slightly lighter in the hand with better weight distribution (6 was top heavy). It is a much better overall experience though and I love a couple of features I've only found on pixels like the ability to copy text from your recent apps slider, amazing speech to text, and I will say the scrolling speed/smoothness has gotten way better with time. I think the software needs a bit of time to smooth out.
I came from the OP8. I did like the phone, but got really tired of the hit or mostly miss camera. I know there are better camera phones than the P7, but I'm not buying a phone I can't root plus I really like the smaller size. The OP11, IDK, like another said, my P7 does everything I want and does it really well. Also there's the whole Chinese and Spyware thing.
I get what everyone is saying!! I came from a Pixel 3XL. The 7 didn't blow me away, but works very efficiently. At least I can unlock my bootloader now.
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or does it have any killer features that stand out above any other phone I've used.
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That depends on if you use your phone as a phone, once you get used to not receiving spam calls and having call screening there is no going back.
Also the speech recognition is faster and more accurate than any device on the market.
Thing is phone's have been fast enough for years and you won't notice a huge difference between modern devices.
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Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
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I was in the same situation, upgraded from my oneplus 7 pro. I agree that the screen was better on the oneplus and looking at a spec sheet it is obvious that it is the better screen. Other than that and charging speed everything is better on the pixel 7. The NFC is more reliable, better sound quality, better networking, camera and so on. I think it is worth the upgrade if you do not mind the screen. I rarely ever used the dash charge and mostly stuck to slower charging for over night so I do not have issues with the charging and the battery lasts me the whole day anywaay.
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Had the pixel 7 for 4 days now and not that impressed with it
Actually thinking about going back to my OnePlus 7 Pro
The charging is poor on it and generally scrolling on webpages menu etc its no better than my oneplus
Dont know maybe I will persevere with it and it will get better
Got the pixel 7 on a killer deal with 5g coming from 4g with EE - I literally got the phone for free but not feeling it
Anyone else not buying into the hype?
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I've had my pixel 7 since late November, and I'll never buy another. I regret trading in my Galaxy S20fe for this turd of a phone. Google has locked down so much of the stock OS it's ridiculous. Very Apple -like. If I want that garbage I'll just buy an iphone.
But by far the most miserable part is the awful--and I mean TRULY, epically horrifically bad--fingerprint sensor. It's hands down the worst I have ever seen on any phone.
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I've had my pixel 7 since late November, and I'll never buy another. I regret trading in my Galaxy S20fe for this turd of a phone. Google has locked down so much of the stock OS it's ridiculous. Very Apple -like. If I want that garbage I'll just buy an iphone.
But by far the most miserable part is the awful--and I mean TRULY, epically horrifically bad--fingerprint sensor. It's hands down the worst I have ever seen on any phone.
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I can't comment on the OS because I just got the phone and rooted it right out of the box, but Samsung phones are fairly limited themselves IMO not to mention with tons of bloat. I went from an Honor View 10 to an S10(because ATT blocked my V10 from service last year) and the s10 is crap in comparison and has very restrictive OS.
Do you have a screen protector? Did you rescan your fingerprints after? Lots of issues have been reported for those who haven't rescanned after a screen protector install, even changing brands I would recommend it.
GL
I bought this in December after accidentally destroying the screen of my OnePlus 7 Pro. It's everything I loved about that phone, with the bonus of NOT having a curved screen. Best phone ever? Nah. But a damn good and reliable phone? Absolutely.
You need to give Pixels some time, as the software is supposed to be intuitive and adapt to your usage. Also, I think some people coming from a different OEM don't realize Pixels are pure android with no frills, so they don't always "wow" you right out of the box. Pixels aren't for everybody, but those of us who love our Pixels tend to be happy with them and enjoy special features that others may not get due to carrier software manipulation, etc.
At the end of the day, all devices are subjective and it just depends on what you're looking for. Don't like the Pixel? Cool. There are thousands of other options out there. Go find your happy place.
Pixels can run grapheOS, others phones can't. That's me reason to keep pixel phones.
I regret trading in my P3 for this phone
The OS is cleaner and it has some nice functionality, but even my Xiaomi mi 10 that I traded from feels like a better phone. And the battery life, which was the only reason I gave up the mi 10 (which had dropped to 60% battery), is **** on the pixel 7.
cannot talk about the OS, i immediately switched to LineageOS as i'm used to that.
i tend to agree to the general feeling, underwhelming it's a good summary for this device.
in my overall experience, it's a barely good device which could've been great if they wanted to.
Screen: 5/10
mediocre screen... it only looks good on darker colors, lighter ones look terrible with visible rainbow effects at very little movement.
minor, almost imperceptible, flickering on static images.
i completely fail to understand why pixel 7 has so many positive reviews about the screen.
thankfully xda and other reviewers made interesting insights about this issue, sadly we as the customers got a indecent panel.
Battery life: 8/10
usually allows me to do 5h of screen usage with ~50%, which is more than enough for me, just in time to put in charge for the next day.
Camera: 7/10
i expected more, considering the reviews.
i've tried it a few days on stock and gcam but i really don't see why all the praises.
anyway it delivers more than i actually need and care.
front camera is actual ****, really bad for video calls.
About the rest:
fingerprint sensors, odd enough, works ok for me: it always recognize my fingerprint. it's just a tad slow which isn't great.
stereo audio balance is weird.
i'll always complain about 3.5" mm audio jack lack.
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i'll always complain about 3.5" mm audio jack lack.
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It also doesn't have digital to analog conversion, soost USB-C to 3.5mm converters won't work.
Pretty much what title says. I'm planning to install an AOSP ROM, don't like MIUI at all.
javier87gav said:
Pretty much what title says. I'm planning to install an AOSP ROM, don't like MIUI at all.
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Hi, I don't like MIUI either.. Do it!
Jan Skokan said:
Hi, I don't like MIUI either.. Do it!
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But the main question was if the phone is still worth it in 2023, I'm planning to buy this one in the second hand market.
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But the main question was if the phone is still worth it in 2023, I'm planning to buy this one in the second hand market.
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what specifications matter for you the most (body, display, memory, cameras, connectivity, features, battery and overall perfomance)
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what specifications matter for you the most (body, display, memory, cameras, connectivity, features, battery and overall perfomance)
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As far as I know both body and display are some of the strengths of this phone. I guess connectivity is not an issue, it was a flagship and it was built in the most current versions of bluetooth, NFC, wifi, 5G, 4G, etc. About the camera, I know it doesn't compete with other flagship's cameras from the same year but I think it's more than OK. Of course I want it to take good overall photos but I'm not a photography nazi. I don't use to do gamming and I believe overall performance should be pretty good. My main concerns are MIUI, processor and battery. Snapdragon 888 was the best at that time but it came with lot of heat issues. I think 4600mah is ok on paper but I'm not really sure how it performs on the field. Probably the heat issues affect the battery performance. MIUI wouldn't help on this matter.. Finally, about MIUI, as long as custom AOSP ROMs are stable it shouldn't be a concern. This is an important point for me, I like custom ROMs.
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As far as I know both body and display are some of the strengths of this phone. I guess connectivity is not an issue, it was a flagship and it was built in the most current versions of bluetooth, NFC, wifi, 5G, 4G, etc. About the camera, I know it doesn't compete with other flagship's cameras from the same year but I think it's more than OK. Of course I want it to take good overall photos but I'm not a photography nazi. I don't use to do gamming and I believe overall performance should be pretty good. My main concerns are MIUI, processor and battery. Snapdragon 888 was the best at that time but it came with lot of heat issues. I think 4600mah is ok on paper but I'm not really sure how it performs on the field. Probably the heat issues affect the battery performance. MIUI wouldn't help on this matter.. Finally, about MIUI, as long as custom AOSP ROMs are stable it shouldn't be a concern. This is an important point for me, I like custom ROMs.
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ok, good points u got there
seems like connectivity doesnt matter to you, i can see, even though it has more recent tech. if its the case or something else that you are really fine with then youre good
you also would like to take photos by being more than average (id suppose some landscapes, sunsets, structures, monuments, etc?). the mi 11 offers a great sensor and a camera system, and you love to take good quality photos. if i put into perspective that maybe you just are a overall photo shooter, then it is just enough *
i never had a snapdragon 888 powered device, but from some sources the snapdragon 888 can withstand normal and daily tasks, but on heavier tasks it can throttle (thats the issue. when the socket reaches a high temp or overheats under heavy tasks, it can max out or temporarily decrease the potential of running at full speed and try to slow it down, getting you a decrease in performance till it cools down. from the web, it seems like it overheats easier, but keep in mind i am completely unsure and never used a 888 device)
since you dont game, id see this problem not occur frequently and you should be fine on daily tasks.
i know about MIUI and its low points and cons. miui seems to be a ruby at first touch, but forget about it after some months from my experience with 2 xiaomi devices. aosp is great to try out the max of the device potential speed (i never saw the difference between MIUI responsiveness till I got AOSP on my redmi note 9 pro)
the battery should be fine. my note 9 pro with an 5020mah battery that holds ~65% health gets me thru the day with 4h sot. i wouldnt see the Mi 11 have such a bad battery, specially if you are looking for a second hand, those should be above ~80% battery health and not reduce by alot.
regarding your doubt due to the socket affecting the battery, yes, the socket throttles, uses more battery as it runs hot and on its high speed. as it is hot, it might heat the battery by a bit too, affecting the life of it and the longevity whenever it overheats, reducing its lifespan and battery health. not by much, if it goes underneath on this situation for just minutes. but remember, if its only for daily tasks, then dont worry about it alot, shouldnt occur frequently in my opinion, and it wont get hot that high.
* now, if you really love taking just some average photos like those, and would like to have 108MP shots and other modes, then moving to AOSP can be a issue, since some of AOSP ROMs dont offer MIUI camera built in. ive done a bit of research and saw some maintainers build it into the ROMs, so it should work.
the reason that this is important is that, in my personal opinion, having a GCam port working for your device is kind of difficult, due to the tons of XMLs, versions, types of GCams everywhere, takes a ton of time to set up to your needs. if you dont care about it, then maybe a regular XML you could find would suit you.
a recommendation from my perspective could be an S21 series, specially the S21+ for a closer budget, and being released 1 year later than the Mi 11.
it offers about the same specs, only the camera being 64MP, but offering an telephoto lens including 3x hybrid zoom (yes, 64MP with 3x zoom), and a big difference in the screen sadly.
the perfomance is at the same level of the Mi 11, offering the snapdragon 888 on US models, or the global exynos 2100 (now, the big issue is, if you have ever gotten a samsung device running exynos that would easily overheat, then rip, because exynos sockets overheat alot easier lol, but should be average for your daily tasks to be honest, since it only happened alot more frequently in older samsung models of mine)
anyways, to its screen, it offers a much lower resolution (1080x2040 to 1440x3020) and PPI (394 to 515). as you referred, its a big strength in it, so reconsider it if you are already thinking about the S21.
now, in software level, samsung already offers good enough OEMs that there is basically no custom ROMs there. people adore the OEM nowadays by samsung (personally, me too as i loved custom ROMs, with my s10e too (well, kind of, before a one UI 5 port).
the stock os from samsung should fit you just fine in my opinion, but if you really love AOSP, then get the Mi 11. *you should also get the Mi 11 since Samsung camera app cant be built to AOSP ROMs, so you would lose the camera functionality without the use of appropriate GCam settings
so, if you prefer a good OEM software, but a lower screen quality and camera, then go for the S21+.
if you love an quality screen, better camera system, but concerned about MIUI, possibly keeping the MIUI camera on AOSPs, go for the Mi 11.
i hope i helped, sorry for any mistakes and if u dont understand anything just tell
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ok, good points u got there
seems like connectivity doesnt matter to you, i can see, even though it has more recent tech. if its the case or something else that you are really fine with then youre good
you also would like to take photos by being more than average (id suppose some landscapes, sunsets, structures, monuments, etc?). the mi 11 offers a great sensor and a camera system, and you love to take good quality photos. if i put into perspective that maybe you just are a overall photo shooter, then it is just enough *
i never had a snapdragon 888 powered device, but from some sources the snapdragon 888 can withstand normal and daily tasks, but on heavier tasks it can throttle (thats the issue. when the socket reaches a high temp or overheats under heavy tasks, it can max out or temporarily decrease the potential of running at full speed and try to slow it down, getting you a decrease in performance till it cools down. from the web, it seems like it overheats easier, but keep in mind i am completely unsure and never used a 888 device)
since you dont game, id see this problem not occur frequently and you should be fine on daily tasks.
i know about MIUI and its low points and cons. miui seems to be a ruby at first touch, but forget about it after some months from my experience with 2 xiaomi devices. aosp is great to try out the max of the device potential speed (i never saw the difference between MIUI responsiveness till I got AOSP on my redmi note 9 pro)
the battery should be fine. my note 9 pro with an 5020mah battery that holds ~65% health gets me thru the day with 4h sot. i wouldnt see the Mi 11 have such a bad battery, specially if you are looking for a second hand, those should be above ~80% battery health and not reduce by alot.
regarding your doubt due to the socket affecting the battery, yes, the socket throttles, uses more battery as it runs hot and on its high speed. as it is hot, it might heat the battery by a bit too, affecting the life of it and the longevity whenever it overheats, reducing its lifespan and battery health. not by much, if it goes underneath on this situation for just minutes. but remember, if its only for daily tasks, then dont worry about it alot, shouldnt occur frequently in my opinion, and it wont get hot that high.
* now, if you really love taking just some average photos like those, and would like to have 108MP shots and other modes, then moving to AOSP can be a issue, since some of AOSP ROMs dont offer MIUI camera built in. ive done a bit of research and saw some maintainers build it into the ROMs, so it should work.
the reason that this is important is that, in my personal opinion, having a GCam port working for your device is kind of difficult, due to the tons of XMLs, versions, types of GCams everywhere, takes a ton of time to set up to your needs. if you dont care about it, then maybe a regular XML you could find would suit you.
a recommendation from my perspective could be an S21 series, specially the S21+ for a closer budget, and being released 1 year later than the Mi 11.
it offers about the same specs, only the camera being 64MP, but offering an telephoto lens including 3x hybrid zoom (yes, 64MP with 3x zoom), and a big difference in the screen sadly.
the perfomance is at the same level of the Mi 11, offering the snapdragon 888 on US models, or the global exynos 2100 (now, the big issue is, if you have ever gotten a samsung device running exynos that would easily overheat, then rip, because exynos sockets overheat alot easier lol, but should be average for your daily tasks to be honest, since it only happened alot more frequently in older samsung models of mine)
anyways, to its screen, it offers a much lower resolution (1080x2040 to 1440x3020) and PPI (394 to 515). as you referred, its a big strength in it, so reconsider it if you are already thinking about the S21.
now, in software level, samsung already offers good enough OEMs that there is basically no custom ROMs there. people adore the OEM nowadays by samsung (personally, me too as i loved custom ROMs, with my s10e too (well, kind of, before a one UI 5 port).
the stock os from samsung should fit you just fine in my opinion, but if you really love AOSP, then get the Mi 11. *you should also get the Mi 11 since Samsung camera app cant be built to AOSP ROMs, so you would lose the camera functionality without the use of appropriate GCam settings
so, if you prefer a good OEM software, but a lower screen quality and camera, then go for the S21+.
if you love an quality screen, better camera system, but concerned about MIUI, possibly keeping the MIUI camera on AOSPs, go for the Mi 11.
i hope i helped, sorry for any mistakes and if u dont understand anything just tell
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Thank you so much for your time, this is really helpful. I think I'll give the mi 11 a try, the screen is like a siren call for me. I'll let you know!