I would like to say that i hope to make this thread a sticky, and that we as community, can help each other to eliminate the problem with standby drain or any battery related issue.
I would like to open with a recent issue related to Pie, rouge apps, which results in too much battery drain on idle and overnight.
I recently disabled powergenie to maximize performance of device and make sure that my apps won't auto dim(i'll post the commands here, so you won't have to search it):
pm disable-user --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
pm uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
I've been monitoring the battery life ever since, and noticed at first a faster drain on idle, that's because i had some rogue dating apps that i didn't think drain too much(PowerGenie might have prevented them from over draining, even though they ran in the background).
Which brings me to the next conclusion- On android PIE, media apps might drain more power than usual, as it wasn't the case with Oreo.
Since i use various dating apps like Tinder,Grindr,OkCupid, it all might contributed to that fact, mainly tinder which was draining battery even in silent operation.
Some here are some advices: If u use dating apps, at least tinder, make sure it's not running in the background.
Instagram is also a battery sucker, facebook app is the biggest sucker, u might use facebook and messenger light.
When you go to sleep, make sure that u have no active media apps in the background, as they'll try to connect to the net even if you have turned it off(Using Airplane mode kinda defeats the purpose of low idle drain), make sure to turn off all unneeded services such as Bluetooth, Wifi, Mobile Data, Location.
I'll update it, the more i'll find, i'll post some of my recent battery life(was using phone whole night, so it didn't overdrain in the night or idle time).
Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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jhs39 said:
Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.
Derpling said:
That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.
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I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
Darkat70 said:
Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?
cordonbleu said:
I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?
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The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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Darkat70 said:
The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?
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Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?
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Yes, it should prompt you the instructions when you start it.
Darkat70 said:
Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
There's also the difference between the LG and BOE displays. I had phones with both and kept the handset with the LG display because it was brighter, had much richer colors and noticably faster pixel response.
I did notice an issue with brightness dimming while certain apps were running but only on the handset with the BOE display.
jhs39 said:
Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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Indeed, I put my dating and social media apps on auto manage and brought powergenie back for now.
Results vary between different configurations, but social media apps needs to be kept eye on, in case you decide to doable powergenie
jhs39 said:
Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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Darkat70 said:
None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.
jhs39 said:
Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.
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Still irrelevant, since I have better performance and quality improvement. So you stating that it's not possible doesn't change the fact that it is.
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Since I updated to .187 I have a strange issue.
I booted into recovery cleared the cache, fully charge the battery at 100% I get 11minutes before dropping to 99%
If I Go to apps and manually clear the cache 1 by 1 fully charge I get 36 minutes before dropping to 99%
This is with or without powergenie. Which is currently disabled.
Very strange.
Why is it if I have uninstalled Power Genie is it possible to still be a running service.
Developer options/running service
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Yes, also running on mine even after disabling it.
Just stopped it now. Let's see the results. In any case, pretty happy with the battery so far. Also phone is snappier now.
i have tried both with and with out for weeks at a time same usage pattern same network same location, and settings and the only difference i notice is that on idle with out powergenie the phone discharges faster with powergenie enable it stays for a longer time with out losing juice in terms of SOT and usage it was basically the same with it on or off. At least for me.
I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
I had this problem first on 9.1.0.300, then 9.1.0.310 and now still on 9.1.0.320.
I really want a solution for this problem as I don't want to keep Powergenie installed. With Powergenie installed my screen dims in bright apps. So when I open an app like Whatsapp, Chrome, GMail, or even the calender or notes app, the screen gets dimmer. When you close the app, the screen gets brighter again. This is so terrible annoying and I don't like this behaviour at all.
As far as I know there is no other solution for this problem, except uninstalling Powergenie.... Before I found the Powergenie solution I was really thinking about returning or selling this phone, just because of the dimming issue. But now there is a new problem
Can anyone help me with this problem? Does anyone else have this same issue? Right now I'm even thinking about buying another phone... But maybe Android 10 / Emui 10 will fix the problem?
cordonbleu said:
I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
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I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.
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I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.
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I even had Powergenie uninstalled since around March I think. Never had a problem with it untill Emui 9.1 came.
I have not installed any new app. It surely is strange that a factory reset doesn't help. But when I enable Powergenie again, the battery behaves normally again. But then I have that horrible screen dimming back. :crying:
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In the last week or so I have picked up my phone three times and it has been dead.
The power button doesn't turn it on again.
I have to take the battery out and then restart it.
I'm running a rooted 2.35 JVT.
I have nothing untoward running ...
Settings
Sense analogue clock
DRM content
Software update
SnsService
Google Play Store
Samsung keypad
Apart from Angry Birds, there's almost nothing else, and nothing new for months except Bad Piggies.
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In the last week or so I have picked up my phone three times and it has been dead.
The power button doesn't turn it on again.
I have to take the battery out and then restart it.
I'm running a rooted 2.35 JVT.
I have nothing untoward running ...
Settings
Sense analogue clock
DRM content
Software update
SnsService
Google Play Store
Samsung keypad
Apart from Angry Birds, there's almost nothing else, and nothing new for months except Bad Piggies.
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Could it be a dead battery?
otherwise, tried to wipe and (re)flash a rom?
The battery is fine, and the ROM has been there for well over a year with no problems.
Finding the root cause of battery drain...
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In the last week or so I have picked up my phone three times and it has been dead.
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There are a number of standard steps to run through to find the root cause of battery problems, assuming the drain is caused by the OS or apps and not actually due to a physically failing battery.
I have been tracking a few battery issues myself recently and this is what I have learned from doing some reading on XDA:
There are two free apps on the app market that are typically used to diagnose battery problems:
Better Battery Stats
CPU Spy
I would recommend installing both apps. The third place to look is in the battery details in the system settings...sorry I can't remember what they look like on Gingerbread because upgraded to Jelly Bean a couple months ago, though I do remember there was less information in the stock battery info on Gingerbread.
IF you are not, indeed dealing with a physically dead battery, then the root of your battery drain is most likely caused by a background process or app that is keeping the processor in a partially active state even though the screen is turned off and one would assume the phone should not be using any power.
Android OS will automatically change the running speed of the processor in the phone based on the demand of the system. If only a few background tasks are running and updating information the speed might be 200 or 400 Mhz. If the system is running full out servicing a graphic intensive game the processor will likely be running at the full 1000 MHz speed. The speed of the processor will directly effect the battery drain.
The expectation is that when we turn the display off (not power down, just put the phone to sleep) the processor should need fewer resources and slow down, tending towards a state known as "Deep Sleep". At this point the processor us using very minimal amounts of power. Any app or process that is active in the background will prevent the processor from getting to Deep Sleep. The CPU spy app will allow you to check how much time the phone runs at various speeds. Once you install it and run it, then reset the timers in the menu and turn your screen off for about 10 or 15 minutes. Then 'refresh' the timers. Normally, you should see most of the time accumulated in Deep Sleep. There are standard background tasks such as syncing with the cell tower, updating time, mail, checking alarms etc. That will engage the processor momentarily but they should be relatively short compared to the deep sleep time. In my case, an errand process was keeping my phone at 100Mhz constantly preventing deep sleep.
Once you know that something is keeping the phone awake in the background, you can use Better Battery Stats to narrow down which process or app it is the cause. This app allows you to track the individual processes that are consuming the most time and preventing 'wakelocks'. Wakelocks are essentially an app preventing the sleep state and are very well explained in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
The battery info in the system settings can also be used to give clues though again, I can't remember how much detail was included in Gingerbread..
If your problem only started happening recently, then it could be a new app that you installed recently, a feature or setting you changed recently or possibly a recent update to an app that was already installed. Try to think back at any recent events that could have triggered a change in the system.
Common problem apps I have read about are:
- Facebook - seems to be bad at using lots of background processor time. (Don't run this app but reading several posts shows its a processor hog)
- Google Apps that sync - Gmail, Chrome (syncs browser history, tabs etc.), Google location stats.
The wakelocks link goes into a great deal of detail and is hugely valuable in nailing your issue down.
Good Luck, let use know via a post if you find the root cause...
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear about it being 'dead'.
The battery is 100% or thereabouts, no problems ever with the battery.
The phone looked as though it was turned off, but wouldn't turn on again with the power button.
I have to take the battery out and put it back again, then it starts on the button.
I've cleaned the contacts, and it still happened.
User error.
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To me, it sounds more like a rogue process messing up power managing or response, but it's hard to tell what it could actually be.
For instance, you might come a cross a game that leaves your phone locked in max cpu frequency, draining the battery without explanation.
If it was me, I'd re-flash the rom from Odin, perhaps with an sd card wipe too.
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Anyone using battery monitoring apps like BBS or GSam, can you share some of your stats here? I'm trying to figure out whether the seemingly massive amount of wakelocks I'm having is normal or not. The biggest problems seem to be coming from the kernel itself. BBS shows a lot of kernel wakelock time, and GSam consistently lists the kernel as the highest drain in its app sucker screen. Also, the Phone app seems to be waking the device a lot since upgrading to .5.51, which wasn't a problem on .3.374.
I've attached some screenshots that illustrate the problem. I'm already using ForceDoze and Greenify, which have been enabled via ADB, and I've restricted background activity and data for the vast majority of my apps. I'm really hoping there's something I can do about this given that it's impossible to use another kernel (LB and none available for this phone anyway). I've software repaired/clean flashed 3 times.
My battery drain is actually not bad at under 4%/hr (combined screen on/off) and about 1%/hour with the screen off overnight. Today I've logged over 4.5 hours SOT in a period of 17 hours and am sitting pretty at 36%. That's better than any phone I've ever used. But I worry that all the wakelocks are using my phone's CPU, raising its temperature, and might contribute to faster battery degradation.
Also, this is with bluetooth off and my Pebble not paired, but battery drain becomes substantially worse with that setup. My idle drain triples with my Pebble connected. I'm trying to troubleshoot one issue at a time and want to nail these wakelocks before moving onto the bluetooth issues.
If your battery stats looked like mine and especially if you figured out how to fix it, please share!
Given that Sony ended .5.51 deployment prematurely and is currently rolling out .8.49, I think you should update to .8.49 (or wait until your region gets the update if you don't have it yet) then recheck if your problem still persists.
Pouring time and resources into a version that Sony is no longer pushing isn't that great of an investment, especially since it's possible that it was fixed in .8.49.
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Given that Sony ended .5.51 deployment prematurely and is currently rolling out .8.49, I think you should update to .8.49 (or wait until your region gets the update if you don't have it yet) then recheck if your problem still persists.
Pouring time and resources into a version that Sony is no longer pushing isn't that great of an investment, especially since it's possible that it was fixed in .8.49.
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Everything except the phone app using more battery was the same on .374. And I fixed that after force stopping the phone app and rebooting. I've been trying to troubleshoot this for weeks but just upgraded to .5.51 a couple of days ago. I will flash it when it comes out for Customized UK, but I don't think .5.51 is the root of the problem.
(Oh cool, Xperifirm actually shows .8.49 available for Customized UK now. Time for some flashing!)
Edit: I'm seeing the same degree of wakelocks so far on .8.49.
Update: The battery drain from "phone" is actually Android System. There's a bug in Oreo where sometimes Android System is showing as Phone/RCS in the battery stats. Doesn't explain why Android System is using so much battery though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7f7jk2/pixel_2_rcs_battery_drain_is_there_any_way_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7edcav/rcsservice_draining_battery/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/rcs-draining-battery.657535/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/rcs-service.666045/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/found-way-to-end-rcs-sucking-battery-after-oreo.659711/
So I managed to get a lot of my battery drain figured out, but a few things are still bothering me.
1) Google Play Services and Android System and/or Phone (see my last post) are using the Significant Motion Sensor to wake my device constantly.
2) Sony's smart charger (com.sonymobile.smartcharger) is waking my device. I'm assuming this has something to do with Battery Care, which I find to be a useful feature. But why does it need to continue sending alarms to wake up our phones when not plugged in?
I've attached 2 screenshots from Better Battery Stats showing the first issue (Sensors/Play Services and Phone) and 1 showing the second (Alarms/Smart Charger). Note the "wakeup=true" and long times recorded for Significant Motion. This held true when I had my phone sitting face-down on a table for 6+ hours to do battery testing earlier.
Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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So I managed to get a lot of my battery drain figured out, but a few things are still bothering me.
1) Google Play Services and Android System and/or Phone (see my last post) are using the Significant Motion Sensor to wake my device constantly.
2) Sony's smart charger (com.sonymobile.smartcharger) is waking my device. I'm assuming this has something to do with Battery Care, which I find to be a useful feature. But why does it need to continue sending alarms to wake up our phones when not plugged in?
I've attached 2 screenshots from Better Battery Stats showing the first issue (Sensors/Play Services and Phone) and 1 showing the second (Alarms/Smart Charger). Note the "wakeup=true" and long times recorded for Significant Motion. This held true when I had my phone sitting face-down on a table for 6+ hours to do battery testing earlier.
Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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I'm with you on RCSService being main culpirt for me. No I don't think it's a bug, it actually does use lots of battery. I listen to 3+ hours of bluetooth music a day and when I saw that RCSService was using more power than my bluetooth, then I thought it was time to experiment. So I uninstalled Carrier Service and RCSService and suddenly my battery life jumped by 20%. There was something in the November update to these services that made them go nuts. Several people have noticed a jump in battery usage, but most people, myself included, thought it was down to the new firmware. Uninstalling these 'features' has made no difference to SMS for me, other than I don't get a read confirmation.
I don't know about smart charger, sorry.
Pretty sure the proximity sensor is always on and that must use some power, but I don't know what that would be called in BBS.
Didgesteve said:
I'm with you on RCSService being main culpirt for me. No I don't think it's a bug, it actually does use lots of battery. I listen to 3+ hours of bluetooth music a day and when I saw that RCSService was using more power than my bluetooth, then I thought it was time to experiment. So I uninstalled Carrier Service and RCSService and suddenly my battery life jumped by 20%. There was something in the November update to these services that made them go nuts. Several people have noticed a jump in battery usage, but most people, myself included, thought it was down to the new firmware. Uninstalling these 'features' has made no difference to SMS for me, other than I don't get a read confirmation.
I don't know about smart charger, sorry.
Pretty sure the proximity sensor is always on and that must use some power, but I don't know what that would be called in BBS.
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Thanks! I should clarify that when I say it's a bug, I believe something is using a lot of battery, but I don't know that it's necessarily Phone/RCS, because it shows up randomly as either that or just Android System. I think it might be something within Android System but being labeled as Phone or RCS. (Edit: Or the other way around; it could be 100% RCS and sometimes shows up as Android System because the phone is part of that umbrella.) I could be wrong but based my judgment on the links I posted above.
That being said, I disabled Carrier Services on your recommendation in the other thread because my carrier doesn't support VoLTE, VoWiFi, or RCS, I've never seen a "delivered" message, and I don't even use the Google Messages app anyway (I use Texra for SMS and keep Messages disabled). So like you, I don't need these services. And I do think there's been an improvement. Might be time to go through the rest of what you recommended via ADB. The only thing that concerns me about doing that is that I'll have to factory reset if I ever switch carriers and want those services, but I guess that's a small price to pay and an unlikely scenario anyway.
The smart charger thing is just weird. It shouldn't need to constantly check whether I'm charging since it kicks in when you plug in. Yesterday I disabled battery care during the day and re-enabled it at night to charge, and I had the best battery life since I've owned the phone: 4.5 hours of SOT over 18 hours off the charger with 30% remaining. I may have to look at idle drain with battery care disabled. I like the idea of battery care, but if it's draining my battery then it just defeats the purpose.
Regarding sensors, BBS has its own category for proximity sensor; this is a separate sensor for significant motion. Somehow Google Play Services and either Phone/RCS or Android System are using that particular sensor all the time. And not just listening to it, but causing lots of wakeups and doing so while the device is sitting on a table all night. I can only deduce that it's somehow seeing motion when there isn't any.
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Regarding sensors, BBS has its own category for proximity sensor; this is a separate sensor for significant motion. Somehow Google Play Services and either Phone/RCS or Android System are using that particular sensor all the time. And not just listening to it, but causing lots of wakeups and doing so while the device is sitting on a table all night. I can only deduce that it's somehow seeing motion when there isn't any.
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Do you have 'On Body Detection' enabled in smart lock? That would force the phone to affirm if it's moving/stationary regularly and quite often.
Didgesteve said:
Do you have 'On Body Detection' enabled in smart lock? That would force the phone to affirm if it's moving/stationary regularly and quite often.
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I never enabled that from the start, but just checked in case Google did something, and it's still off.
I also checked my app permissions, and the only ones with access to body sensors are Google Play Services and Tasker. None of my active Tasker profiles require the significant motion sensor. One of them does use the orientation sensor to turn the speakerphone on when it's face-up during a call, but I tried disabling that profile and the stats didn't change.
Maybe I have a messed-up accelerometer...do you know of a way to test that? (Edit: Found it in the Support app - my accelerometer, gyroscope, and proximity sensor are fine)
I think I might head to the Sony Mobile forums with the smart charger issue for that matter. It may be a bug that affects all phones with Qnovo features, or maybe they could at least give me an explanation.
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Might be time to go through the rest of what you recommended via ADB. The only thing that concerns me about doing that is that I'll have to factory reset if I ever switch carriers and want those services, but I guess that's a small price to pay and an unlikely scenario anyway.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you just "reinstall" those services via the same adb commands? Where you typed uninstall, just replace with install?
Maybe, but I don't know where I would be installing them from...? Since I don't have a backup of the package. I uninstalled a bunch of stuff via adb before and it didn't return with a dirty reflash. I had to flash userdata. So that's all I'm going by.
I'm not sure of the actual technical mechanics, but I believe uninstalling system apps doesn't actually remove the package from the system image, so you can reinstall them at any time.
I think it's like taking down a sign on a store, the actual store is still there, just all references to it are no longer there, so to the OS it's not listed - "uninstalled".
Hello - was there any solution found for this issue?
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Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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Hi there, what was the final solution to your issue?
Dean F said:
Hi there, what was the final solution to your issue?
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I gave up. I still have a ton of wakelocks. GSAM shows a bunch of them even when my phone is supposedly dozing. My battery life is OK, not nearly as great as I hoped I'd have with this phone, but it gets me through the day so I've just been living with it. I have noticed better battery on the latest firmware (July patch) than June. I also got rid of the RCS stuff, which helped a bit. And finally I traced a lot of my drain to an app I was using called "hide running in background notification" which the last few firmwares can do natively.
(Edit: Sorry for missing your previous post!)
Edit: I was sadly mistaken about better battery on the July patch. The battery is only better if I'm not on wifi. I posted in the wifi drain thread about it just now.
Hello!
I've owned a N960F for about 2 months now and recently I'm dealing with extremely high screen off battery drain. Looking at the stats offered by the battery tab in device care I am unable to pinpoint the cause.
Furthermore, accubattery shows very low deep sleep time. Last night it managed to achieve an incredible amount of deep sleep of 0 minutes and drain 12% in just 5h 20 minutes of screen off time.
Screen on time is not a problem, while using the phone the battery usage is normal and I am pleased by it's performance, but it is greatly affected by the screen of consumption.
Does anyone have an idea what might be causing the device to not enter deep sleep mode? Or how to find out what the problem could be that makes it use up so much juice?
Thanks in advance!
Screenshots (the accubattery is from yesterday, while the device care one I screenshot just now):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...25/Screenshot_20190712-024601_AccuBattery.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...05728/Screenshot_20190712-030220_Settings.jpg
Difficult to tell, possibility is an app in the background preventing deep sleep.
When you use device care and then select battery, followed by settings you get a further screen of options, you may be aware of this.
I have used these settings, it might help.
An alternative approach is to uninstall an app to see if the phone then goes into deep sleep
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Difficult to tell, possibility is an app in the background preventing deep sleep.
When you use device care and then select battery, followed by settings you get a further screen of options, you may be aware of this.
I have used these settings, it might help.
An alternative approach is to uninstall an app to see if the phone then goes into deep sleep
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I can't seem to pinpoint any app that could cause this problem and my settings were already as shown in your screenshots
jd14771 said:
i found a wierd bug recently. If you're google account has a sync error, like gmail, contacts, messages, ECT.. it will not enter deep sleep.
go to settings>accounts&backup>accounts> Google account>sync account>
Do you see anything with a circle formed by two arrows? those items can't snyc in the background for some reason. usually because the phone has put the app to sleep, optimized it, or restricted background data access. turns out my contacts arent syncing right now, glad i checked.
use this to try and help troubleshoot if you need help.
https://www.unlockunit.com/blog/google-contacts-not-syncing-need/
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this might actually have been it, I found a weird Office account that was not syncing (I don't even remember adding it) and I removed it, I'll update if it has fixed the issue
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for me, the problem was that my Contacts app was set to non-optimized ect ect... but the googlecontactsbackup app was set to optimized. I didn't even know that apps could have dependencies that show up as other apps. (i installed google contacts to replace samsung's people app).
i went from 1%-1.5% drain per hour, too .5% drain. significant change for me since im already heavily debloated.. thanks for making me look that deep lol. this is why people prefer iphones i suppose.
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Are you debloat with adb and console?
Which apps disabled?
I think that Note 9 exynos have problem with consumming battery in sleep mode.
My N9 always "drain" 3-4 % in night after little debloat but A5 without debloat and with more apps consumming only 1-0% per night.
After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
Thanks
I feel the same
Envoyé de mon VTR-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk
Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update?.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.
naissguy said:
After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
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I noticed faster battery drain on my ltr-09 as well. All is fine now. I noticed when i first upgraded location was turning on alot almost like it was learning when to turn on. Then it levelled out. Example opening google now at first it always turned on my gps now it doesnt. When i was on 9.01 i left my phone on battery saving for gps. You cant on 9.1 and i have seen alot of apps that used to be good with battery saving location now going for full with gps. Big bttery drain. Those were the differences i found. What I believe solved my battery drain was actually my battery getting all screwed up. I had this happen when i would switch roms and my battery stats would get all messed up. I solved it before and solved it this time with my p10 by running the thing right dead. Then pluging it in overnight with it turned off (no fast charging) Then I did it again the next night drained to dead , plug in charge with off ( no supercharging) and my battery life is better again. Hope this helps. EDIT After a few days of testing i still felt the battery was better but battery life still wasnt right. I did a factory installed minimal apps. Battery life was good until play store updated carrier services. I uninstalled updates to carrier services, disabled auto update. Then i actually disabled carrier services completely. Battery seems good now. From what i read carrier services is for next gen texting. Saw online others were having issues with this update.
djg269 said:
Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.
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Wrong, batteries get older with time and charging cycles. Updates have nothing to do with it and if you notice a drain right after one - it has nothing to do with the condition of the battery, it's the update's fault.
updates are huawei's way to convince you to buy a new phone
first they borked the camera, now they are messing with battery
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
Edit: It was dobble posted I don't know why, maybe a moderator could please delete on of the post
naissguy said:
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
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I have ran a couple of days with very good battery life. 11.5 hrs with 62 percent left. Seems like it used to be with Oreo. Overview of all I did was as follows. Clear cache partition, factory reset . Uninstalled Google Chrome (used Firefox instead) set carrier service to factory in apps three dots advanced. Disabled automatic update of carrier services in play store, then in settings apps disabled carrier services completely. Went through and disabled network access to every app that doesn't need it. I don't use Facebook or Facebook Messenger apps. I use them through my browser. Oddly chome on pie is a battery killer as well. I'm very satisfied with proformance of my P10 again.
My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.
majaczos said:
My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.
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Settings, apps, apps again, select three dots in upper right, select show system processes. You will find it there it's a little hidden lol.
Still no carrier services for Play Store.
Hey guys,
So i got my Ultra chunk on Jan 22nd (Italy shipments were early) and been testing it non stop on different scenarios on aprox. 10 charge cycles by now and i want to share some of them to find out which apps are draining it in standby idle and WHY CANT I GET MORE THAT 5.30hrs of SOT...i watch every Exynos battery life test on Youtube and I wonder why i cant get those kind of numbers on my phone... is it because of 512gb/16gb? is it because of apps/settings?
1st scenario NORMAL (before update)(with lots of apps on sleep) :
https://imgur.com/a/WDmsNZK
2nd scenario HEAVY (after the update) :
https://imgur.com/a/S5Etest
3rd scenario IDLE FOR 2.30hrs (after update):
https://imgur.com/a/p34u7WE
4th scenario without SS: There was a scenario where i only used camera for a day with lots of UHD and single take (which is heavy on cpu and takes lot of power and heats up the phone in cold weather) and it was around 20% with around 2hours of SOT and lots of camera time...
PS: also i want to add that i added every app and pic/video from my NOTE 8(which i got 4.30hr of SOT!!) and the app count with aprox~590apps (including system apps) and its only ~200gb after i copied bunch of movies to it. I cleared cached 2times by now, tried putting apps to sleep (around 260 of them) and then tried the same apps on deep sleep and today i deleted all of those to let system do that for me.
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
adamlee2012 said:
Mine lost 2% in 57min of not been used. Definitely not normal. Hopefully Samsung are aware and send an update asap.
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Which storage option and which variant? Exynos or SD?
what's your average SOT time when you're using it ?
Same issue
I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
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I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
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WQHD+ 120Hz
No reception here and i didn't put it on airplane mode but now im starting to do so i got 5.47hr of SOT this cycle
Wifi is 2.4ghz with good reception (not great), i had apps that i didn't use on sleeping (removed them) , then did kinda same selection on DEEP SLEEP (again removed them too) and wanted to system to configure it but now system is not putting anything to sleep so its 0 in all three sections.
i used emoji AR for the first time in that cycle so that's why its there and never appeared after that. Chrome beta makes phone heat up slightly but i like it and can't switch to other browsers because of numerous reasons...
and about smartthings, should i unistall it completly or should i disable something for it?
also i removed facedata and also found that FINGERPRINT SCANNER was on ALWAYS ON so i switched it off too.
deep sleep messed up the apps , should i put the apps on sleep again?
also my animation scales are all set at 0.5x in developer settings could that drain it too?
also i jumped straight from note 8 so i dont know about the tips and tricks that S20 users did, is there a specific set of settings that i should turn off/on?
EDIT: Wanted to add if you have goodlock on your phones too? i have everyworking goodlock mod on my phone from galaxy store ( they're available in store just like US), could one of them cause the drainings?
appreciate the replies !
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you're in Italy? can we return the phone? what's the return window? i dont know if it's because of IT rom / configuration / operator or other factors
also are you also using WQHD 120hz ?
mtm1401 said:
I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
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Sounds like your apps are the problem. Go in the settings and restrict background data and background operation of them.
Google Play Services, Google Backup Transport and Framework are prime suspects.
Clear the data for all three.
Try blocking them with Karma Firewall*.
This disabler may work:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
*Because your on 10 or 11 a lot of diagnostic tools available in Pie aren't available to you... so you need to guess.
Android >10 sucks... nothing like feeling secure and helpless. Woke or was that choked?
karandevilocs said:
WQHD+ 120Hz
No reception here and i didn't put it on airplane mode but now im starting to do so i got 5.47hr of SOT this cycle
Wifi is 2.4ghz with good reception (not great), i had apps that i didn't use on sleeping (removed them) , then did kinda same selection on DEEP SLEEP (again removed them too) and wanted to system to configure it but now system is not putting anything to sleep so its 0 in all three sections.
i used emoji AR for the first time in that cycle so that's why its there and never appeared after that. Chrome beta makes phone heat up slightly but i like it and can't switch to other browsers because of numerous reasons...
and about smartthings, should i unistall it completly or should i disable something for it?
also i removed facedata and also found that FINGERPRINT SCANNER was on ALWAYS ON so i switched it off too.
deep sleep messed up the apps , should i put the apps on sleep again?
also my animation scales are all set at 0.5x in developer settings could that drain it too?
also i jumped straight from note 8 so i dont know about the tips and tricks that S20 users did, is there a specific set of settings that i should turn off/on?
EDIT: Wanted to add if you have goodlock on your phones too? i have everyworking goodlock mod on my phone from galaxy store ( they're available in store just like US), could one of them cause the drainings?
appreciate the replies !
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If you have a WiFi connection and have turned on WiFi calling, you shouldn't need to go into aeroplane mode.
This YouTube video explains the different sleep bins so worth a watch (
), but I would also let it settle for a few days if you're moving everything around every 5 minutes.
If it's saved passwords you are stuck in chrome for, I recommend a manager like bitwarden (works across all devices and browsers).
Good lock and animations shouldn't impact battery too much.
Did you use smart switch? Would always recommend a clean install, at least of settings.
Try charging your phone to full before bed, then seeing how much it drains overnight when asleep and if anything pops up on the battery usage that shouldn't
My battery on my S21 Ultra, 512GB, Exynos model has been outstanding.
When WiFi is on, I turn mobile data off
GPS is off
FHD+ display with 120hz
Adaptive brightness
Mail sync off
I don't play games on my phone, so no games installed.
I'm at 30% battery with nearly 7hrs SOT.
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My battery on my S21 Ultra, 512GB, Exynos model has been outstanding.
When WiFi is on, I turn mobile data off
GPS is off
FHD+ display with 120hz
Adaptive brightness
Mail sync off
I don't play games on my phone, so no games installed.
I'm at 30% battery with nearly 7hrs SOT.
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Wow, so it's not about the 512gb... great battery!
1.Did you use smartswitch when you started it?
2.how many apps you have approximately? Did you set up secure folder/dual apps
3.did you install any goodlock mods on it?
4.why fhd+? The qhd and fhd has the same batterylife according to phonearena test.
5.is your fingerprint reader set to always on? Do you have AOD on as well?
Appreciate the replies! Enjoy it
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If you have a WiFi connection and have turned on WiFi calling, you shouldn't need to go into aeroplane mode.
This YouTube video explains the different sleep bins so worth a watch (
), but I would also let it settle for a few days if you're moving everything around every 5 minutes.
If it's saved passwords you are stuck in chrome for, I recommend a manager like bitwarden (works across all devices and browsers).
Good lock and animations shouldn't impact battery too much.
Did you use smart switch? Would always recommend a clean install, at least of settings.
Try charging your phone to full before bed, then seeing how much it drains overnight when asleep and if anything pops up on the battery usage that shouldn't
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I tried deepsleep before too, it messes up the apps completely unlike the normal sleeping method, so im back to using that. Put 265apps to sleep yesterday. Idle battery drain is almost fixed after turning off aod/fingerprint always on sensor and also deleting smartthings, i dont know which one did that
I used smartswitch at fisrt, but only for moving media and contacts/messages, i didnt move the settings.
Secure folder and dualapps make different googleplay services when you create them which is like having two phones at the same time... I wonder if those are the issues
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Wow, so it's not about the 512gb... great battery!
1.Did you use smartswitch when you started it?
2.how many apps you have approximately? Did you set up secure folder/dual apps
3.did you install any goodlock mods on it?
4.why fhd+? The qhd and fhd has the same batterylife according to phonearena test.
5.is your fingerprint reader set to always on? Do you have AOD on as well?
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I do have goodlock. Only the custom clock mod.
I have approximately around 80 apps installed (including the stock Samsung ones)
FHD+ because if the display is barely distinguishable at QHD as opposed to FHD+, you may as well save as much battery as you can while still having the same experience.
I used SmartSwitch when I initially came from the Oppo Find X2 Pro and that went smoothly.
Fingerprint scanner is constantly active.
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HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
Check them out:
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I've found
karandevilocs said:
HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
Check them out:
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Good or Bad?
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So I always used tap for AOD (with option for fingerprint sensor to show when AOD turns on) as well as a routine for AOD always on when charging, best of both worlds and its an unnecessary drain in my eyes anyway.
I was worried at the battery life I was getting (had the phone from the 28th) but does seem to be gradually improving. I also removed GSAM and Accubattery so I wasn't constantly checking (and they run quite heavy in the background, like 500mb between them).
The other thing to remember is when people are showing battery of over a day, there's like 7-8 hours where it just idles loses 3/4/5%, so the battery life isn't really much better, so 24 hours of usage with 6 hours SOT really isn't that different to 18 hours with 6 hours SOT
Hopefully the improvements keep coming, honestly I'd delete the battery tracking apps and just use the in built one seeing as there isn't a clear drain from anything, you'll stop worrying and checking it all the time, thus saving more battery lol
karandevilocs said:
HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
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I'm running on Pie with the factory load for Device Care. That may work well for you but not on the software I have.
I do best with all power management disabled.
Android Services battery use went nuts with power management enabled... and it got worse not better as the days progressed.
With AOD always on it uses less than 1% @ hour for my 10+ so I leave it on.
mtm1401 said:
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So I always used tap for AOD (with option for fingerprint sensor to show when AOD turns on) as well as a routine for AOD always on when charging, best of both worlds and its an unnecessary drain in my eyes anyway.
I was worried at the battery life I was getting (had the phone from the 28th) but does seem to be gradually improving. I also removed GSAM and Accubattery so I wasn't constantly checking (and they run quite heavy in the background, like 500mb between them).
The other thing to remember is when people are showing battery of over a day, there's like 7-8 hours where it just idles loses 3/4/5%, so the battery life isn't really much better, so 24 hours of usage with 6 hours SOT really isn't that different to 18 hours with 6 hours SOT
Hopefully the improvements keep coming, honestly I'd delete the battery tracking apps and just use the in built one seeing as there isn't a clear drain from anything, you'll stop worrying and checking it all the time, thus saving more battery lol
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i had that AOD option since the beginning and some on the other forums wrote that they had improvements after disabling AOD so i disabled that and fingerprint (which is almost useless since i dont need it to scan constatly when im not gonna unlock with my fingerprint anyways i use my mi band as my smartlock)
also i had to use GSAM since i didn't full charge it to prevent degradation and only charged it to 90% hence why the stats are only for 88% of usage. ill delete it after i get another full usage statics. wish the system battery tracker monitored the battery since UNPLUGGED and not since FULLCHARGE.
my phone is getting better imo, and less 1~2hr less than other guys is kinda acceptable since i know NOBODY has that many apps as me lol and also nobody uses both securefolder and dualapps as much as me too.
i really push my phones to extreme and if this one could get me around 7hr of SOT with my usage ill be happy,
but i still think that a software update is indeed needed for Exynos models
The Exynos model really needs a Firmware Update....
karandevilocs said:
i had that AOD option since the beginning and some on the other forums wrote that they had improvements after disabling AOD so i disabled that and fingerprint (which is almost useless since i dont need it to scan constatly when im not gonna unlock with my fingerprint anyways i use my mi band as my smartlock)
also i had to use GSAM since i didn't full charge it to prevent degradation and only charged it to 90% hence why the stats are only for 88% of usage. ill delete it after i get another full usage statics. wish the system battery tracker monitored the battery since UNPLUGGED and not since FULLCHARGE.
my phone is getting better imo, and less 1~2hr less than other guys is kinda acceptable since i know NOBODY has that many apps as me lol and also nobody uses both securefolder and dualapps as much as me too.
i really push my phones to extreme and if this one could get me around 7hr of SOT with my usage ill be happy,
but i still think that a software update is indeed needed for Exynos models
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Try Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker, that's all I use most times.
I never use the fingerprint scanner.
AOD was never an issue but Goggle Backup Transport, Framework and Google Play Services are.
Those can cause excessive usage when on AOD on my setup. AOD battery usage should be around .6-1% @ hr max.
blackhawk said:
Try Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker, that's all I use most times.
I never use the fingerprint scanner.
AOD was never an issue but Goggle Backup Transport, Framework and Google Play Services are.
Those can cause excessive usage when on AOD on my setup. AOD battery usage should be around .6-1% @ hr max.
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galaxy labs modules doesn't work on android 11,
also there is no Goggle Backup Transport, Framework in apps, maybe you're on older android/device so the methods are different for different devices and OS versions