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List of bugs on Note 3

I love this device but it has a couple of issues. I thought it would be helpful to list bugs in this first release of the software. I'm not rooted. These are mine:
Haptic feedback on menu keys sometimes stops
Air Command has stopped working. Its intermittent.
Sound controls sometimes don't allow me to make changes (right now I can't change notification sound level)
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I myself have not encountered the haptic-feedback, air-command, or sound-control problems.
The one problem I've found is that Google Hangouts won't do video calls via LTE. It pops up a message saying a WiFi connection is required instead. (The Note 2 used to have the same problem on ATT, but it was fixed about a month ago.)

Another annoying bug is that AVRCP 1.3 does not seem to be implemented properly.
Song/Media metadata does not get properly sent via bluetooth to receiving devices. This has been seen as not working at all to song information getting stuck on display and not changing when tracks change.
I'm definitely looking forward to a big fix for this one.
This has been seen on ATT, Tmobile, and Sprint variants.
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Gary02468 said:
I myself have not encountered the haptic-feedback, air-command, or sound-control problems.
The one problem I've found is that Google Hangouts won't do video calls via LTE. It pops up a message saying a WiFi connection is required instead. (The Note 2 used to have the same problem on ATT, but it was fixed about a month ago.)
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You have to edit some code to allow video call on LTE. changing a 0 to a 1. Google to learn how. Can be fixed

wdkingery said:
You have to edit some code to allow video call on LTE. changing a 0 to a 1. Google to learn how. Can be fixed
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But the workaround requires rooting, doesn't it? (For me, the disadvantages of rooting at this point outweigh the benefit of Hangouts via LTE.)

Gary02468 said:
I myself have not encountered the haptic-feedback, air-command, or sound-control problems.
The one problem I've found is that Google Hangouts won't do video calls via LTE. It pops up a message saying a WiFi connection is required instead. (The Note 2 used to have the same problem on ATT, but it was fixed about a month ago.)
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Edit. Just saw you dont wanna root
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Gary02468 said:
But the workaround requires rooting, doesn't it? (For me, the disadvantages of rooting at this point outweigh the benefit of Hangouts via LTE.)
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Whats the disadvantages to rooting?

The only bug that I have noticed is sometimes when I get an email notification from the stock email app, it appears in the status bar and then disappears within a couple of seconds. I've seen this a couple of times.
I guess we have to expect some issues since this is the first device out of the box with 4.3.
I really wish they would allow the widgets on the lock screen while having a pin for security. At least read only.

Unhived__Mind said:
What['re] the disadvantages to rooting?
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Some of the disadvantages are:
* If I screw it up, I could brick the phone, or at least make the phone unavailable while I have to spend a lot of time fixing it.
* Rooting will wipe my existing setup, requiring more time than I want to spend to re-initialize my phone.
* There may be security, stability, or performance problems that have not been discovered yet.
* If my phone exhibits any subsequent problems, even if they're not actually due to rooting, I won't have any easy way of knowing whether that's the case.
* I don't know whether rooting may interfere with subsequent OTA updates (unless I go to the trouble of flashing back to stock first).
* No one can rule out the possibility that rooting will void the phone's warranty.

screen and sound
has anyone noticed occasional brightness flickering? I thought it might be adaptive display or something like that, and i disabled it all, but I still see it.
also, I'm not sure what in the world happened, but my phone started randomly playing music. the music player didn't open, I had air gestures, off, and it wasn't ringing. I turned off wifi and the music stopped. In fact, i don't even think I have the song that was playing saved to my phone.

nespid said:
has anyone noticed occasional brightness flickering? I thought it might be adaptive display or something like that, and i disabled it all, but I still see it.
also, I'm not sure what in the world happened, but my phone started randomly playing music. the music player didn't open, I had air gestures, off, and it wasn't ringing. I turned off wifi and the music stopped. In fact, i don't even think I have the song that was playing saved to my phone.
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Ghost in the machine....
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Gary02468 said:
Some of the disadvantages are:
* If I screw it up, I could brick the phone, or at least make the phone unavailable while I have to spend a lot of time fixing it.
* Rooting will wipe my existing setup, requiring more time than I want to spend to re-initialize my phone.
* There may be security, stability, or performance problems that have not been discovered yet.
* If my phone exhibits any subsequent problems, even if they're not actually due to rooting, I won't have any easy way of knowing whether that's the case.
* I don't know whether rooting may interfere with subsequent OTA updates (unless I go to the trouble of flashing back to stock first).
* No one can rule out the possibility that rooting will void the phone's warranty.
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Rooting any device voids warranty. It does not trip the flash counter or Knox. Just flash back to stock or supersu unroot.
As for the other stuff, no issues here. Phone is as stable as it was on stock. Runs even better because debloated it myself.
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Gary02468 said:
Some of the disadvantages are:
* If I screw it up, I could brick the phone, or at least make the phone unavailable while I have to spend a lot of time fixing it.
* Rooting will wipe my existing setup, requiring more time than I want to spend to re-initialize my phone.
* There may be security, stability, or performance problems that have not been discovered yet.
* If my phone exhibits any subsequent problems, even if they're not actually due to rooting, I won't have any easy way of knowing whether that's the case.
* I don't know whether rooting may interfere with subsequent OTA updates (unless I go to the trouble of flashing back to stock first).
* No one can rule out the possibility that rooting will void the phone's warranty.
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Good summary!
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Using Google Music over headphone aux cable, setup eq the way you want, listen for a sec and slide the track knob to another part of the song. The eq turns off. If you go in to the eq settings, it is showing on. Toggle off and on and you will hear the difference.
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I don't have any of the bugs being list here. However, when I have S Voice on for wake up when the screen is off, it will sometimes turn on randomly even when nothing is said. Happened in a movie theater for me and it was embarrasing. That feature is now off.
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Anyone else having problems using whatsapp with pen window?
It seems that when I minimise it from a conversation I then can't open it again or move the icon around on the screen.
Works normally if I press back to the conversation window first though

S voice gets weird with me too. Had it in hands free mode and it kept telling me something about my safety while it simultaneously read my text out loud. it kept getting stuck in that loop for any new messages.

lax_22 said:
Anyone else having problems using whatsapp with pen window?
It seems that when I minimise it from a conversation I then can't open it again or move the icon around on the screen.
Works normally if I press back to the conversation window first though
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Same here

Screen brightness and
Screen brightness issue: occasionally, when brightness is set low (not auto), when phone is turned on, screen turns on at full brightness for a split second then go to low setting level. Happens about 25% times.
Haptic feed back when screen off: after I turn screen off, if I move phone, I get a haptic feed back once. Doesn't repeat until I turn screen on and off again.
Edit: this is caused by 'smart alert'. Under Controls -> Motions. It vibrates when you pick up the phone and you have a notification and the screen is off to let you know there is something you missed.
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Anyone having internet problems? When I'm on wife or 4G lte, the stock browser will get halfway through loading a Web page, then it will just hang there for a little.
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Laggy keyboards

On my first Note 7 the Samsung keyboard was really laggy. I switched to the Google keyboard and everything was ok with the speed of typing (accuracy is still bad with Google keyboard). Now with my Note 7 replacement both keyboards are laggy. I type and the letters appear 0.5-1 sec later from time to time. The vibration of the keyboards is also off. Has anybody the same issues?

I did when I used Smart Switch to do a full swap on my device... my new device I moved over data via alternative methods and only restored Settings, Call history, S Note, and Messages with Smart Switch... it's working allot better this time I did a similar thing on my Note 4 when I temporarily reverted during the recall and saw a similar performance improvement
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gguy1 said:
I did when I used Smart Switch to do a full swap on my device... my new device I moved over data via alternative methods and only restored Settings, Call history, S Note, and Messages with Smart Switch... it's working allot better this time I did a similar thing on my Note 4 when I temporarily reverted during the recall and saw a similar performance improvement
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Hmmm. I did a complete clean install after I got the replacement and I got the OTA update. I even installed all the apps newly. I didn't restore anything. Might try another factory reset.

Almost every Samsung phone I had has had a leggy keyboard, my note 4 was really bad. Even after flashing different roms and what not on my note 4, it was still Larry. My note 7 has been pretty decent actually

Do you guys know what's going on with mine? I notice sometimes I'll get a notification and for a split second the notification doesn't fully load at top. Here's a screen shot to show you what I'm talking about. I also just put it side by side my other note that I'm returning and got the same notification while same app open and it didn't do it on the other note. Wtf.

google keyboard lags, samsung keyboard lags aswell.
just installed swiftkey. well see how that turns out.. seems OK so far

I turned off nova accessibility and it fixed the issue for good for me.

DeMi-GoD said:
I turned off nova accessibility and it fixed the issue for good for me.
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Where can I disable that?
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Nougat 7.0 bugs - problems

I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.

norbarb said:
I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Mine had issues when I first upgraded to nougat with mirroring but it magically fixed itself lol
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.

norbarb said:
I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Hi Norbarb,
Last weekend, I was on QA4 then I Odin'd back to APK1 and took the Official ATT OTA update to Nougat 7.0.
I just tested screen mirroring and it worked without any problems. Sorry, I don't have a Samsung BluRay to test.
Now the issue that I've been having is reboots. In the beginning, when I was first on N7.0 I had no problems whatsoever for a few days.
- On Feb. 20th, I kept getting a message that one of my apps unexpectedly closed. Now this app is old and wasn't even supported on MM (it's called Webcams widget) but it had worked flawlessly on MM and Nougat QA4.
- Then on Feb. 21st I had a couple of reboots happen, I went into a solid Bootloop that started in the afternoon and kept rebooting for around 10-15 times! It stopped long enough for me to actually Power Off my S7E down in the normal manner and I left it that way for around 5 minutes.
- I searched for solutions and finally ended up clearing the Cache Partition like this:
Wipe cache partition
Turn off the device.
Press and hold the Volume Up key, Home key, and Power key at the same time.
When the phone powers on, the Android System Recovery screen appears approx. 30 seconds later.
Release all of the keys.
Press the Volume down key to highlight "wipe cache partition."
Press the Power key to select.
Press the Volume down key to highlight “yes” and press thePower key to select.
When the wipe cache partition is complete, “Reboot system now” is highlighted.
Press the Power key to restart the device.
My phone went without a reboot for almost 2 days then yesterday afternoon I had one single reboot. My next test (if needed) will be to clear each app cache/data. Unless it gets really, really bad again, only then will I resort to a complete reset.
The only difference between using my phone on the official QA6 and the sideloaded QA4 is that I had turned off auto-updating for my Play Store apps when on QA4 (and earlier). I had a lot of updates occur when updating to QA6.
Doing more research today, I found an article talking about some common Nougat problems and possible fixes here.

antizombie said:
Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.
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Did you preform factory reset ?
It help me with lot of problems. Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.

Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.

antizombie said:
Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.
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What App did you use to disable it?

manny05 said:
What App did you use to disable it?
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Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.

I switched to OnePlus 3T today, and here are few observations guys...
Compared to Nougat on S7E... different level of speed and responsiveness, way different.
I used CM and AOSP roms in the past, on different phones, I know they fast, but this... speed demon out of the box, with MM or Nougat.
Feel bad for leaving S7E forums, but believe me guys, it is a flagship killer indeed. Unbelievable.
I will go back to Sammy with S8 only if they will be able to keep up with this kind of speed, plain and simple.
I was hoping with every generation that Sammy will get rid of touchwiz lags... new phones and new chipsets were piling up, but it never changed, unfortunately.
Touch wiz nougat is a bloody mess next to 3T nougat...
Yes yes, I know. But I never used edge panels... or OOD that much.
Peace out guys!

norbarb said:
Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.
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Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.

[email protected] said:
Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.
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Sorry. Samsung switch will work too.

antizombie said:
Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.
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This... Just figured out ez disabler pro no longer works with Nougat
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Quickvic30 said:
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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I have this issue also, it keeps dimming constantly, and my blind self can't read it without manually turning up the brightness.
(Eye exam on Fri LOL)

Hello. My first post here. I have been lurking & reading for years.
I have a few of the minor issues that others have, like the colors will be washed out sometimes, pull down notifications are a bit harder to read. My main issue with this update is that my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need. That is why I got this phone in the first place. Now apps that I need to go back to later & continue working are gone. Very annoying. I assumed it was a new performance setting activated without any explanation of how it will affect normal usage. I can't find where to change that particular setting, if it is changeable at all now.

Brine! said:
my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need.
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settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage

Gary02468 said:
settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage
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Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Brine! said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Just go to settings and search for battery. Then you will see what apps you can stop to have better battery live
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Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.

darthmalus said:
Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.
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Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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norbarb said:
Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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once samsung gives us 935U nougat maybe ill go back to it.

Audio playback stopped on 8.1

I am having an issue where audio stops after about 30 minutes of playback, the only way to get it going again is to unlock the device and go into the app. This happens with audio books on Audible and podcasts through Podcast Addict with wired and Bluetooth headphones. The issue only starred after the full 8.1 update. I had no issues with 7.1, 8.0 beta, 8.0 full release or 8.1 beta. I tried a full wipe and it still happens. Is anyone else seeing this? Any ideas on a fix? It's as if Android is killing the app.
I tried tweaking a couple of things in developer settings but nothing worked. So I tried playing Audible and Podcast Addict using Android Auto and both played for well over 30 minutes without stopping. This was with the screen off and over bt. But having to fire up AA to play something isn't ideal.
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I have had Poweramp stop just like that as well using 8.1 stable and Bluetooth headphones

Same for me with any audio apps.
Could be a background killing service after 30 min of srenn off.

Mastamike said:
Same for me with any audio apps.
Could be a background killing service after 30 min of srenn off.
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Good to see I am not alone. Let's hope HMD are on this and we see a fix next update.
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Its just happened to me twice while i was walking somewhere, not ideal having to get your phone out to get the music going again when it is banging it down with snow.

Same here

me too, it happened twice using "music folder" app.
it happened since I've oreo 8.1 stable version.

I have tweeted Nokia Mobile and i have seen people have posted about it on the official community forums (probably us lot lol) so lets hope they hear this, clearly it isn't a one off and i haven't stumbled across a simple fix.

MrBelter said:
I have tweeted Nokia Mobile and i have seen people have posted about it on the official community forums (probably us lot lol) so lets hope they hear this, clearly it isn't a one off and i haven't stumbled across a simple fix.
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Yeah, I created the thread on Nokia Care. The issue is pissing me off so I want HMD to address it.
I will have a better test of using Android Auto to initiate audio playback when I go for a run tomorrow. Having to stop every 30 minutes to restart a podcast isn't good.
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Well it stopped twice for me in a 4 mile walk, it's a bit of a pain in the arse to be honest.

Press and hold battery, go to background activity manager, find your app, grey out slider switch.
This will allow any app to work forever and a bit longer.

TeddyBeers said:
Press and hold battery, go to background activity manager, find your app, grey out slider switch.
This will allow any app to work forever and a bit longer.
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Cheers, trying now will report back. I was looking for a setting like this but what I found in developer settings didn't work.
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Been playing audio for 45 minutes now with no issues. Thanks Teddybears.
Just hope that it doesn't rape the battery and Nokia fix it properly.
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I'm blind. Teddybeers. Doh.
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TeddyBeers said:
Press and hold battery, go to background activity manager, find your app, grey out slider switch.
This will allow any app to work forever and a bit longer.
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Maybe i have the wrong end of the stick here but I don't have the background activity cleaner enabled and all of my apps are on the whitelist and shouldn't be restricted anyway, i also have Poweramp set to have no battery optimisation since google fannyed around with how Bluetooth works and the audio still stops at around 30 minutes.

MrBelter said:
Maybe i have the wrong end of the stick here but I don't have the background activity cleaner enabled and all of my apps are on the whitelist and shouldn't be restricted anyway, i also have Poweramp set to have no battery optimisation since google fannyed around with how Bluetooth works and the audio still stops at around 30 minutes.
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It needs to be greyed out, not blue. Imo this is a bug. After changing it to grey solved the problem
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Toedwarrior said:
It needs to be greyed out, not blue. Imo this is a bug. After changing it to grey solved the problem
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So you have to remove it from the whitelist essentially blacklisting it even if the actual background activity cleaner is turned off which is the exact opposite of what it was in 8.0?
That's just bonkers.

MrBelter said:
So you have to remove it from the whitelist essentially blacklisting it even if the actual background activity cleaner is turned off which is the exact opposite of what it was in 8.0?
That's just bonkers.
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This is dumb but yeah it fixed the problem
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Bizarre and a bug that needs correcting sharpish really, when you turn it off (or make it grey which ever term you prefer to use) you can even see the number of allowed apps that can run in the background decrease so android is even telling you you have just restricted its ability to run in the background lol

Seems there is some aggressive background app optimisation. Better if hmd unlock the bootloader so that devs can utilise the full potential of the device.

Background processes killing. Is it problematic for you?

Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decide for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.

gorman42 said:
Reading this https://dontkillmyapp.com/oneplus I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
For instance, I've been using for several years this app, Stay Alive: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synetics.stay.alive
It gives you the option of having the screen not turning itself off when charging. It's crucial in the car, where I have a dock mounted and use the phone for navigation, music playback, etc.
On my previous Nexus 6P the app worked flawlessly. With 6T sometimes the screen turns off and then it turn itself on once more, as if the process got killed and then restarted.
I have the "don't optimize" option activated for Stay Alive.
There are other strange behaviours I'm seeing, with Tasker for instance. And the nagging feeling that they might depend on background process handling at the OS level.
I recently did turn off Battery/Battery Optimisation/Advanced Optimisation/Deep Optimisation and Sleep standby optimisation, hoping to get better results. I still haven't reached a conclusion about it.
I have to say that it's pretty annoying to have the phone decides for you what should be happening for apps. For instance, I had Firefox in the "Don't optimize" category but it still had problems with opening new pages after a while. Turning off the above two options seems to have cured the problem but if that is needed I wonder what the heck "Don't optimise" mean for OnePlus.
I hope to get to the bottom of this as, quite frankly, not having the phone "act on his own" behind the scenes is exactly why I chose Android as my OS.
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Thank you for this.
I've been feeling stupid having all these issues of pass getting killed in the background.
For me proper working phone is more important than battery life. I can easily get one whole day 6AM-11PM with around 30% battery left.
I would be ok if the apps won't get killed and I have say, 10% battery left at the end of the day.

I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?

rmaathuis said:
I also don't understand this, it's what I really dislike about the OnePlus phones. In earlier Android versions it was always adviced not to use app killers because the Android OS knows best when to kill an app. Now OnePlus is doing exactly this, and then call it an optimization... [emoji848]
But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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I want to say you're right but it's not only OnePlus that has too aggressive background killing. Google put optimization into Android a couple of years ago and they can't seem to hit a perfect medium between both. I'm sick of switching apps and then going back into an app a couple of minutes later to just have to start at the top of the feed again. It's annoying and it's happened with my 6t, Moto z, Droid turbo, lg g4, and my Galaxy s6 when they were all in their "prime". I think it boils down to Google ultimately

Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.

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But @gorman42 are you aware of the option System - Developer Options - Stay Awake?
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Yes, I am. But the screen dims. It doesn't turn off but it dims. For in car navigation that is clearly undesired.
I wonder whether rooting would give me back the control I need through some third party modification...

Aridon said:
Turn off adaptive battery and on your apps you absolutely want untouched selectDon't optimize under battery > battery optimizations. After doing that I have what is consider a normal experience.
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But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.

Whats solitions.
İ open accebility settings for any app and closed automatical..
Whyy
I'm sorry for my bad english

gorman42 said:
But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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You find solitions ?
I'm sorry for my bad english

gorman42 said:
But if you read my post... I do have "Don't optimize" selected for relevant apps. It still doesn't seem to solve the problems I'm having.
Now I've turned off Adaptive Battery too. Let's see if it makes any difference.
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What most of the times work for for me is open the app, then go to recent app management, click on the 3 dots in the upper right corner above the app and choose lock.
And thanks for the tip of this app, because of company policy "stay awake" was disabled on my device and this app overrides it (Earlier I tried 2 or 3 similar apps but they didn't work, this one does).

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You really shouldn't have to modify your phone to, by chance, fix what OnePlus did (same could be said about other OEMs too, but that's besides the point right now). OnePlus needs to fix this issue, which has been an ongoing thing in their ROMs for over two years.
It's a shame that it takes a few app devs getting bad reviews on their apps to come up with a website pointing out the offenders of aggressive app management, with OnePlus being number 2 on the list for this issue to pick up traction, despite numerous users reporting about it on their forum and via in-app feedback for so long.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: Compared to OxygenOS on the 3T, OxygenOS nowadays has become so nice to use on the 6T that I don't have a need to root anymore. It's just this issue that really hampers it.

I fell in love with OnePlus when I bought my very first OnePlus phone, the OnePlus 3T. I've since then owned the OnePlus 5T and 6T. Unfortunately I've been disappointed with both because of this specific issue. If they don't resolve this issue within the lifetime of my 6T I feel obligated to start looking for something other than a OnePlus phone next Such a shame, as I love everything else about OnePlus and OxygenOS.

While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.

gorman42 said:
While investigating this I stumbled upon a setting in Developer Options.
Here’s the description and explanation: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-android-pie-standby-apps/
Problem is, with 6T all apps are stuck to ACTIVE status, you can’t modify their status. I guess this could point to OnePlus messing with regular Android power management.
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Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.

wilpang said:
Are you sure you can't modify the settings, I've tried it and let's me change as per the link you posted?
I agree with you guys the app management is pretty aggressive.
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Yeah, I tried before writing here.
It happens when you disable Adaptive Battery. If Adaptive Battery is enabled, those settings are active.

I have the same issues with several apps (Tasker, Gravity Screen, Whatsapo (Web)...). The apps was running perfectly on my old lg g4 but on the OPO 6T they gets killed too often. Also disabled adaptive Battery and set those apps to dont optimize. But this doesnt helps....
In previous OOS on the 5T there was an setting for background apps count in developer options, this is sadly gone on our 6T. Is there a way to use this option also when removed from dev options?
(maybe editing some files).
Thx
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Yes this is very unfortunate.. sometimes I even miss calls and they straight to voicemail

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Reading this I'm left wondering if some strange behaviour I'm seeing could be motivated by this.
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Yes, it is a problem for me. Never had a phone with such aggressive battery management. It even periodically kills my wifi for no reason.

There are 3 settings under Settings > Battery:
1. Battery Saver
2. Battery optimization
3. Adaptive Battery
I have been able to get a somewhat 'normal' experience after turning all 3 options off for Whatsapp, Tasker, etc... For some programs, it seems that it needs to be started, and left running without closing the program in 'Recentd's..
I am rooted and use Greenify to close programs that I want killed when in the background..

@gorman42
Why do you need this staying-alive app?
Google Maps and Waze already make the device's screen stay awake while navigating...