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[Question] ¿The best nougat stock/debloated/light rom?

EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.

Wence-kun said:
EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
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Aex official Oreo or pixel experience

Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.

Google search Loup 14.1 for santoni.
It is by noyer,father of development on santoni.
For some reason he isn't on XDA but his ROM is what you need you can follow him on github and twitter though.He even managed to port Sailfish Os for Santoni. I'm using Loup 14 with clarity kernel and experience is awesome.

peron said:
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
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correct..i thought to suggest the questioner...but you did before me. by the way, once rooted the Stock ROM? all bloat-wares from google and Mi can be removed...Battery and Phone performance everything is good.
even i tried a some recent official releases of Oreo 8.1 for R4x , first few days everything good, later Battery life tarts in consistency. so, i back to stock but removed all Google and Mi's apps ..only very few mi services still existing on my rom, if i delete them my phone gets locked and i need to do everything from scratch again, so i let them persist... Go for stable miui global 9.2 and keep remove the stock bloatwares.
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Question Downgrade Android 12 to 11

Hey whatsup!
Im currently on Pixel Extended 4 Android 12 and the rom is really great. However, I still miss many features from the Miui camera so I want to go back to Miui. Whats the proper way to do it?
Regards

You can flash the recovery rom if you need your bootloader unlocked even after flashing miui but if u don't need that you can flash the original rom from mi flash tool

Thanks alot..i already tried and it worked. Thought I couldnt flash MIUI in Recovery due to encryption. But it worked flawless. I still need to get used to the "slow" experience on MIUI compared to Pixel Extended 4. But I want to use the camera to its fullest content.
Thanks

romuser87 said:
Thanks alot..i already tried and it worked. Thought I couldnt flash MIUI in Recovery due to encryption. But it worked flawless. I still need to get used to the "slow" experience on MIUI compared to Pixel Extended 4. But I want to use the camera to its fullest content.
Thanks
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You can try the European miui rom, it has better speed than the other ones

Im using the EEA europe version right now. you mean the xiaomi.eu rom? Thats even slower and stuttering is pretty common opening apps.

I should have said this earlier but there is an mi camera port called anx camera. But not sure it will work or not

Theres no working ANX for Android 12 as far as I know. And IF, theres no 1080 MP sensor. But nvm..Ill stick with Miui for now. Maybe theres some upcoming stuff in the future.
Thanks

Ok good luck

Question Is there no OS that really stable for this phone?!

I've tried MIUI 12 and 13, they're both trash!! There must be some shortage for each version!! Even the last version of MIUI 12!! Come on Xiaomi!!
Actually I like the hardware, but the OS???!!!
Any body could give me a suggestion for which OS is the most stable??

MMX custom rom, debloated, still based on MIUI
i m Wait pixel experience stock rom without root.

If u want performace, i will suggest oxygen os or if u have a low end phone, you can try roms of other devices having same chipset as yours. but u need to modify them a bit.

MIUI is terrible, yeah.
I recently switched to PixelExperience GSI and it's pretty good.
Auto brightness is a bit finicky and logging into your Google account can be annoying if you use SMS for 2FA, because SMS don't work by default (it's just one switch in settings).
But there are no crashes and it's way less buggy than stock.

A beginner who needs help said:
If u want performace, i will suggest oxygen os or if u have a low end phone, you can try roms of other devices having same chipset as yours. but u need to modify them a bit.
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Where i could download this OS? are you sure this os could be use for Xiaomi 11T Pro?

Cubiss said:
MIUI is terrible, yeah.
I recently switched to PixelExperience GSI and it's pretty good.
Auto brightness is a bit finicky and logging into your Google account can be annoying if you use SMS for 2FA, because SMS don't work by default (it's just one switch in settings).
But there are no crashes and it's way less buggy than stock.
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Could you explain to me what GSI mean? Whats the difference between non GSI and with GSI PixelExperience?

IvanR8 said:
Could you explain to me what GSI mean? Whats the difference between non GSI and with GSI PixelExperience?
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GSIs (Generic System Images) are universal for all devices supporting Treble. All devices released with Android 9 and later are required to support it.
"Classic" ROMs are built for specific device only.
Here's a guide on how to install one:
How to install custom roms (GSI) 11T > Pro
How to install a gsi onto your Mi 11t > Pro This will wipe your phone and I'm not responsible for any bricked device's. you can always go back to stock and try again. Clean install suggested! 1.0 Start with downloading things Latest...
forum.xda-developers.com

Same here
The is an urgent need for a good software

I´m having crashes and reboots like every hour since I got MIUI 12.5
Does anyone else have this problem?
Would you recommend to flash the firmware again or to go with a Custom Rom?

chafamexxx said:
I´m having crashes and reboots like every hour since I got MIUI 12.5
Does anyone else have this problem?
Would you recommend to flash the firmware again or to go with a Custom Rom?
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Never had this problem with this version.
Try to reset the phone.
Flash firmware with Miflash.
Flash a Xiaomi EU rom.

Waiting for paranoid for 11tpro, as of now magisk is not working normal so switched to Stock OS

If I were you, I prefer flash custom rom like: Xiaomi.EU
Much more stable!!

Question stock Android 13 for Redmi Note 11 ?

Hello,
after two month of normal using without any experiments or flashing / rooting my Redmi Note 11 stuck in an endless bootloop similar as descriped here: Xiaomi Note 11 stuck to rebooting into recovery mode 5.0 after unlocking the screen
I was not able to do any recovery so I ended up to wipe all data and now the phone is booting normal and can be used again.
But befor I'm going to start setting up my phone again from the scratch (because Google backup did not work) I would prefer to use a custom rom without all of these ****ty MUI apps like cloud, video and pdf viewer and round about 7 billion other apps which are anoying me with endless popup messages and registration requests.
This will be my first try to install a custom rom but I already found this tutorial: [GUIDE] How To Install A Custom Rom On Redmi Note 11
First of all thanks for the work of this tutorial I think this will help me doing the first steps.
So here is the question:
Is there any working stock Android 13 custom rom for the Redmi Note 11 without any unneccessary extra stuff?
seems that crDroid could be close to what I want: [ROM][OFFICIAL][12.1-13.0] crDroidAndroid 8.x - 9.x [SPES|SPESN]
what would you suggest to me?
thanks and regards
Stefan

Hi Stefen,
Seeing as how long it has taken Xiaomi to get Android 12 to our devices via OTA, and even there it appears most have STILL not recieved A12 via ota and have had to force the update...
It's unlikely we'll see Android 13 / A13 anytime soon.... I reckon we won't see stock Android 13 for at least another year or more...
Not to say we won't get it, as our devices are supposedly supported to A13 and Miui 14.... but based on timescales, we're a long way off yet...
Cheers, Lister

ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Android 13 is possible yet.
So I guess the right question is: is there a clean stock Android 12 for the phone?

Hi Stefan,
No probs, depends on you're build of current official stock rom. The easiest way to find out, is download the Miui Downloader from PlayStore.
Then head to this page, and find the appropriate rom for your current rom.
This Windows app, will also help you find what you need....
Thanks, Lister

I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui

thomas1991_12 said:
I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui
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Xiaomi.eu performs better than stock MIUI but worse than AOSP custom ROMs. Based on my experience with 13.0,5, it took almost a minute to boot whereas with Evo X 13 and PE+13, it boots half a minute

Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?

thomas1991_12 said:
Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?
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not yet, there develops and mods, but not completly functional

Question I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?

I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?

sgajardoz said:
I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?
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DONT exist nothing like "best" in android, the "best" rom is that one than suit your needs.

sgajardoz said:
I am a new user talking about rom and i wanted to know which the best and stable rom for my Redmi note 10s?
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The last Stock miui 12.5 is the most stable and bug free IME.

I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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he is asking for "best" and "stable" rom not a buggy one xD

tutibreaker said:
he is asking for "best" and "stable" rom not a buggy one xD
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I think you don't know how hard I had to look after a at least working ROM for this phone.
And I'll say, it was a lot. This PE ROM is the best and stablest from the Custom ROMs that ain't Modded MIUI and ain't GSI.
So I keep my comment, PE , right know is the best and stablest Custom ROM for Redmi Note 10s, even though it has some features missing.

XInflict7 said:
I think you don't know how hard I had to look after a at least working ROM for this phone.
And I'll say, it was a lot. This PE ROM is the best and stablest from the Custom ROMs that ain't Modded MIUI and ain't GSI.
So I keep my comment, PE , right know is the best and stablest Custom ROM for Redmi Note 10s, even though it has some features missing.
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having bugs dont means stable :v

tutibreaker said:
having bugs dont means stable :v
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Well, I think you're right. But the system doesn't suddenly closes or gets laggy, it's smooth, and the main features of a phone works flawlessly. At least I brought some info for this phone community, because it lacks a lot.

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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I would give an ETA if I didn't have these assignments overwhelming me. Otherwise, I also am suffering from the bugs I myself have, on which I'm working whenever I can of course. IMS seems like an easy fix as all I think I need is the APK from MIUI 12.5. Otherwise, I suspect BT media will be harder to handle.
Another bug I was reported and could confirm was offline charging just like on all GSI ROMs so yeah, lots to fix, lots to tinker around.

windowz414 said:
I would give an ETA if I didn't have these assignments overwhelming me. Otherwise, I also am suffering from the bugs I myself have, on which I'm working whenever I can of course. IMS seems like an easy fix as all I think I need is the APK from MIUI 12.5. Otherwise, I suspect BT media will be harder to handle.
Another bug I was reported and could confirm was offline charging just like on all GSI ROMs so yeah, lots to fix, lots to tinker around.
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So far I'm enjoying the ROM, and I thank you a lot for providing it! If you need any help i can try my best to do it (I'm using it as my daily drive so some stuff I'll not be able to do).
I have one question about the ROM though, does this ROM is GSI or is a full custom ROM, and what's the difference?
Thanks for the hard work man!

XInflict7 said:
I'm using Pixel Experience ROM, downloaded from the official Pixel Experience site, it's android 13, it's a pure Android experience and works smoothly. BUT Bluetooth audio and IMs Services doesn't work, despite that it's a pretty reliable ROM! I'm loving it!
The maintainer said that'll solve those errors on the next builds, but without an ETA, so we wait.
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XInflict7 said:
Could you please share the link of that pe rom for 10s. I appreciate it man. Been looking for that so long. Thanks
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
download.pixelexperience.org

alpine1502 said:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S (rosemary) - PixelExperience
download.pixelexperience.org
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Thanks for that man i really appreciate it. But iam on miui 13 Indian varient rom. And it is asking for bootloader ver 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM and it's a global ver. What should I do to install it

Drewtaggart01 said:
Thanks for that man i really appreciate it. But iam on miui 13 Indian varient rom. And it is asking for bootloader ver 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM and it's a global ver. What should I do to install it
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"Your device must be on bootloader version 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM... The current bootloader version can be checked by running the command getprop ro.bootloader in a terminal app or an adb shell from a command prompt (on Windows) or terminal (on Linux or macOS) window."
The Warning sign says "12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM" So I'd recommend you install the global version first, and then de PE ROM, but I think you could do it right away, from your Indian MIUI.
I myself had the Indian MIUI, but I messed a lot with the phone and ended up with the Global MIUI. My path was changed to ARCANE MIUI, LitE MIUI (both custom MIUI) and then back to global and then Pixel Experience since my device bootlooped after I depleted my battery one day.
Complementing the PE ROM again, my battery depleted one day and I just put it to recharge then everything worked as it should. (Traumatized by MIUI bootloops)

XInflict7 said:
"Your device must be on bootloader version 12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM... The current bootloader version can be checked by running the command getprop ro.bootloader in a terminal app or an adb shell from a command prompt (on Windows) or terminal (on Linux or macOS) window."
The Warning sign says "12.5.16.0.RKLMIXM / 13.x.x.x.SKLMIXM" So I'd recommend you install the global version first, and then de PE ROM, but I think you could do it right away, from your Indian MIUI.
I myself had the Indian MIUI, but I messed a lot with the phone and ended up with the Global MIUI. My path was changed to ARCANE MIUI, LitE MIUI (both custom MIUI) and then back to global and then Pixel Experience since my device bootlooped after I depleted my battery one day.
Complementing the PE ROM again, my battery depleted one day and I just put it to recharge then everything worked as it should. (Traumatized by MIUI bootloops)
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Well for now iam on V13.0.3.0 SKLINXM Android 12. Would it be fine if I just install pixel recovery and then just install the pe rom. What's your thoughts on battery life of pe13 rom is it good like miui 13 or so and what are the major bugs.

Drewtaggart01 said:
Well for now iam on V13.0.3.0 SKLINXM Android 12. Would it be fine if I just install pixel recovery and then just install the pe rom. What's your thoughts on battery life of pe13 rom is it good like miui 13 or so and what are the major bugs.
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I'm using it since launch and it's holding down pretty good. The percentage drops "faster" (not a huge thing) apparently, but the phone withstand better on the latest 10%, I've noticed. And overall it lasts a whole day, and a bit of the next day morning (daily use, not gaming or any heavy task). If gaming, or some heavy task as, music, camera, video/photo editing, it drains more, but nothing out of the ordinary.

I will wait for it to be more stable for now or I'll try the final build.1 last thing to ask iam on miui 13.0.3.0 SKLINXM how should I go for installation of pe13 rom on my 10s? Plz let me know.
thanks.

Drewtaggart01 said:
I will wait for it to be more stable for now or I'll try the final build.1 last thing to ask iam on miui 13.0.3.0 SKLINXM how should I go for installation of pe13 rom on my 10s? Plz let me know.
thanks.
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Before I answer your question I'll ask something off topic. Does your phone gets some audio stuttering when listening to music?
Now to the question. First I ask to you, do you have a unlocked bootloader? Are you using any Custom Recovery?

Well i do get some stuttering when I listen songs on speaker.No i haven't unlocked my bootloader yet but i do have permissions of unlock.and iam on stable miui 13 v13.0.3.0 A12 Indian varient rom

Perfect. Before we start I want to say, I'm no professional, I'm just a enthusiastic user LOL.
First thing to do is backup your sensitive data (so much important)
Then unlock your bootloader, you can use the official ways (MI Bootloader Unlocker), no need to seek the MTK tool way, that is used for bricked phones and to avoid the timer.
After that you can use official MiFlash Tool to flash the Global MIUI 13 ROM. JUST REMEMBER TO CHECK in the inferior right side "flash_all" not the "flash_all_lock" otherwise you'll relock your phone after the flashing process (a huge pain).
Then I'd recommend installing a custom Recovery such as TWRP os Orange Fox (googling you'll find how to do, it's a 4 steps process, but you can find guides out there)
Then follow the PE guide on how to install, and you're good to go!