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There are several DAB options for MTCB head units :
1)The RTL type DVB-T/FM dongle and the Wavesink app, see this thread in the hardware mod section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...development/adding-dab-functionality-t3208344
2) Use DVB-T card or module specifically for MTCB head units and use the "radio" function. These can be bought with the head unit or purchased separately. Some manufacturers like KGL/HuiFei use and add on box, others like Klyde, use cards mounted inside the unit. In factory settings, at the last count, there were about 12 different types of TV tuner that can be selected.
3) Or use general Android USB DVB-T dongle and use the "radio" setting on its accompanying app. If this method is chosen, obviously you dont need to go into factory settings and pick a tuner, as these settings are only for DVB-T tuners bought with/for MTCB head units.
(Radio through a DVB-T card IS digital (using either MPG2 or MPG4 depending on the type of DVB-T tuner you have) but it is not DAB. Its also dependant on what radio channels your country chooses to transmit over DVB-T, for instance in the UK in my local area, none of the local stations are transmitted and not all of the national ones are either.)
4), 5) & 6) Dension sell 3 Android DAB products, one that uses BT to connect (which may prove a problem with the BT implementation on MTCB head units, edit: May 2016, the BT type seems to no longer be available), one that connects via USB and 1 that uses FM modulation (which means station names/info displayed via RDS in the FM/AM radio app, but a separate controller for the DAB for changing channels is needed) see here : http://www.dension.com/products#dab-radio-solutions
7) Navall sell a DAB module for their units, they sell both KGL (Hui Fei) units and also the Ownice head unit (the Ownice is NOT an MTCB type unit) see here : http://navallstore.com/Options/DAB -DAB-plus(Digital-Audio-Broadcasting)
8) Joying sell an add on DAB box (its not L band compatible though) : https://www.carjoying.com/joying-di...iversal-android-car-auto-radio-head-unit.html
9) FIAMM make a DAB antenna with built in tuner and BT, so youd simply install the antenna and use BT on your head unit to connect to BT (there is an app available), how it would work with the BT on MTCB head units, however, is unknown :
http://www.smartantenna.it/en/page-product.php
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiamm.sm2&hl=en
10) And finally Klyde sell a DAB module specifically for their units (I ve just bought a new Klyde head unit with it). They use a DAB module made by Shinwa who also supply DAB modules to Blaupunkt, Pure and Philips. I m told it is not retro fittable as modifications are needed to the board, I ve tried to make it work on my non DAB Klyde unit. but I ve had no luck, so far at least. Its a separate module, but its quite small (approx 10cmx4cmx5cm). Its small enough to be mounted inside the unit, something I intend to do with mine. It uses the DAB app that started appearing in ROMs from June (2015), although they have recently updated it. I ve added pictures of the module and the new app. It works quite well, although I m not over keen on the interface of the app personally, but it can be modded like any other MTC app. As the DAB app appears in ROMs since June, its been developed by MTCB (who develop ALL the software for ALL the MTCB type headunit, which is why they are so similar and have interchangeable software, WHICHEVER manufacturer version you have) this may mean that the other manufacturers will have OEM DAB options soon - I m sure MTCB have not developed the DAB app just for Klyde. So far at least, Klyde is the only company selling DAB units that use this app, AFAIK Navall use a different app and set up.
Sweet! I may replace my current hu in the near future then; quad core and dab+ would be worth it
Does the app not give you channel list? Only next/prev?
Brendo said:
Sweet! I may replace my current hu in the near future then; quad core and dab+ would be worth it
Does the app not give you channel list? Only next/prev?
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Soz for delay, I m not getting emails when my posts get replies, for some reason.
Yeah, there is a channel list, you press the menu button on the top left I think, its hard to tell cos I using it with horizontally mounted DVB-T antennas so I only get that channel currently, I need to get a proper DAB antenna !
I ll change this thread to a general "DAB for MTCB Headunits" thread soon and list all the DAB/digital radio options - basically the Navall DAB module, RTL DVB-T tuners with Wavesink, this DAB module from Klyde and using a DVB-T card/module/usb TV dongle to receive digital radio through digital tv).
FYI, there's already a DAB thread started in the hardware section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...development/adding-dab-functionality-t3208344
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Soz for delay, I m not getting emails when my posts get replies, for some reason.
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Did you check that you are subscribed to the thread?
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FYI, there's already a DAB thread started in the hardware section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...development/adding-dab-functionality-t3208344
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I've also been thinking about merging this into the other one. What do you, @typos1, think about that? As this is a new thread it would work...
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Did you check that you are subscribed to the thread?
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Lol, I AM subscribed because I started it ! Still I got an email for your reply, I think t may be to do with the changes at XDA recently.
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I've also been thinking about merging this into the other one. What do you, @typos1, think about that? As this is a new thread it would work...
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FYI, there's already a DAB thread started in the hardware section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...development/adding-dab-functionality-t3208344
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I saw the other thread, but that was specifically for using the Wavesink app with RTL dongles, which is technically a hardware "mod" as you are adding hardware, whereas this was meant to be a general DAB/digital radio guide, hence putting it in the "general" section, also, if you buy a unit with DAB already, its not a "mod". I ve added a link to the Wavesink DAB thread. Maybe you could re-name that thread "Using Wavesink for DAB" or something ? I think you d have to re-name this one as well, as I dont think threads can be re-named by non mods (take it youre a mod now Alex ?!), can you re-name it "Guide to DAB on MTCB headunits" ? And if there are threads about DVB-T dongles, the Dension DAB options and DVB-T tuner supplied with MTCB head units (I know all have been discussed in the original thread) I can add links to them in this thread also.
(Need to reply to your pms BTW Alex, I will do soon)
@dark alex - I found out how to edit the thread title - double click to the right of it before you go into the thread, changed title !
is there somewhere to get an updated apk for the DAB app for the pumpkin headunit, the one on it at the minute is dross....it wont store stations and if you switch screen views it dumps all it had 2 seconds before
Hi sorry for my english.
I'm italian. Dab is not diffuse.
My problem is mct radio because the AF not work. So i think to buy an external FM USB receiver.
Aswers:
1 Which i must buy?
2 can i connect car antenna directly to usb receiver?
Inviato dal mio SM-G920F utilizzando Tapatalk
@typos1 - would you please share your Klyde DAB apk ? From the picture it seems you have some newer version than I do. Thanks.
Sure its on the fileserver in the "apps" section.
Volume
has anyone using the new DAB app found out how to lower the volume so you can hear the navigation voices? the volume seems too loud and all other sounds are quiet?
This Klyde DAB+ unit sounds through Android or just you can control over Android and sounds trough MCU like the FM radio?
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This Klyde DAB+ unit sounds through Android or just you can control over Android and sounds trough MCU like the FM radio?
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It should be MCU controlled like the FM/AM radio app.
@typos1 , have you had any luck on using the DAB module from Klyde with your other headunit?
It would not be that the module are using a usb port along with an analog input??
It wont fit on my JY unit because it lacks the 2 sockets on the back that KLD units have. Theres no usb on it, just those 2 plugs and an SMA for the antenna.
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Is the DAB App Version from the Fileserver the only one you have? It has to work with the DAB+ Module from Klyde. Does anyone know, how to use the app? At the first start I found national stations (like ENERGY) AND local stations (like hr). I'm living in Germany, so sorry for my bad english. After a factory reset, I only get the national stations, either with L-Band turned on or off. What can I do to get all stations?
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Is the DAB App Version from the Fileserver the only one you have? It has to work with the DAB+ Module from Klyde. Does anyone know, how to use the app? At the first start I found national stations (like ENERGY) AND local stations (like hr). I'm living in Germany, so sorry for my bad english. After a factory reset, I only get the national stations, either with L-Band turned on or off. What can I do to get all stations?
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I had the same problem, but got a new DAB.apk from the seller . Where could I upload it?
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I had the same problem, but got a new DAB.apk from the seller . Where could I upload it?
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Whats it called ? I got DAB (2) app from Klyde. PM me and I ll send you my email address then I ll upload it to the fileserver.
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Is the DAB App Version from the Fileserver the only one you have? It has to work with the DAB+ Module from Klyde. Does anyone know, how to use the app? At the first start I found national stations (like ENERGY) AND local stations (like hr). I'm living in Germany, so sorry for my bad english. After a factory reset, I only get the national stations, either with L-Band turned on or off. What can I do to get all stations?
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I just have the DAB app that appeared in "OEM" app in June and the DAB (2) app that I put on the fileserver, just go through all the settings and play about with it. Are you sure its not the signal ? Do you have a boosted antenna ?
I have tested all settings with no luck. I don't think that it is the antenna because I am using the stock antenna wich is delivered with the DAB+ module.
In your Fileserver I can only find the dab(2).apk. Where can I find the oem version of the app?
TPMS has beenn mentioned a few times in the original thread, but AFAIK no one has managed to find out how/if any TPMS modules will work. I bought a TPMS module from Klyde, it comes with 4 valve caps and a strange mini USB thing that I assume allows you to plug another mini USB device into the unit at the same time.
Unfortunately I cant get it to work with the built in TPMS app that started appearing in ROMs from June either on my old unit or my new one, I ve tried searching for the device in the BT app and the BT in settings but I get nothing, I m awaiting a response from Klyde.
If anyone has any ideas on how to get it to work then let me know, but its good to see TPMS hardware available for these devices - even if its not working . . yet !
Can you share link from TPMS module?
My brain is stuck what is TPMS? I am sure I should know but i don't get it
Guess youre talking about Tire Pressure Metering Sensor?
would you probably add a hint to your OP and title so others know what you mean? Remeber the non-english-speakers here
Yes this is it (Tire Pressure Metering Sensor).
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My brain is stuck what is TPMS? I am sure I should know but i don't get it
Guess youre talking about Tire Pressure Metering Sensor?
would you probably add a hint to your OP and title so others know what you mean? Remeber the non-english-speakers here
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Yes, its Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, sorry @dark alex.
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I simply bought it from Klyde, there was no link, I guess you have to ask them.
It turns out it cant be used with DAB, which is why I cant get it to work - the cable to attach it is the same as the DAB module they sent me.
I m not sure if its BT or maybe NFC or something. I ll report back with results when I get it to to work
Does anybody try this TPMS solution with his HU?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smar...77_80_61,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_10
Does the app work in landscape mode?
Can the app start with background mode?
Does the external (valve cap) sensor show accurate value?
I have been using this TPMS system in Volkswagen Polo and my MTCB head unit since 3 months now and couldn't be happier with it.
It activates when you press the button because it invokes the reverse camera display source every time you call it into action.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stee...1644_2_79_78_77_82_80_62_81,searchweb201560_6
I have tried these two models purchased at Amazon and they work perfectly. I have them installed on my cars.
The only drawback is that you need Bluetooth 4.0 and HuiFei radio does not have it. I have commissioned an RX USB Bluetooth for Android on Deal Extreme, to see if it works.
So far I'm seeing it in my S5 Galaxy.
All the links:
http://www.amazon.es/Sensores-Inter...2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448974215&sr=8-2&keywords=tpms
http://www.amazon.es/Sistema-Sensor...?ie=UTF8&qid=1448974381&sr=8-67&keywords=tpms
http://www.dx.com/es/p/v40-usb-2-0-...s-android-os-black-silver-250228#.VoqxKORgnDc
http://android.myapp.com/myapp/detail.htm?apkName=com.eckom.tpms
Turns out you need a special lead that I wasnt sent orignally, it plugs into one of the sockets on the back of the unit, theyre sending me one, I ll post again when I get it.
Anyone have a idea if this would work with a joying head unit.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wire...61,searchweb201560_8,searchweb1451318400_6150
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Anyone have a idea if this would work with a joying head unit.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wire...61,searchweb201560_8,searchweb1451318400_6150
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Dont know, ask the seller.
But in any case if it works with a Joyous unit it will work with ANY MTCB head unit. There is no such thing as a "Joying" head unit - Joying/CarJoying are simply re-sellers of Shenzhen Joyous head units.
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Anyone have a idea if this would work with a joying head unit.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wire...61,searchweb201560_8,searchweb1451318400_6150
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Yes I think.
It looks made specifically for these HUs. So I supposed they tested them.
And screens look like built-in TPMS app that I got preinstaled on my HU (KGL). So I supposed it should work.
But I would preffer ecternal sensors, not ibternal ones. I have 4x4 which reqiires regular tire rotation and ibternal sensors are not suitable as I would need to remove and refit them on every tire rotation.
Is there external versio? I couldnt find it on AlliExpress.
The one I mentioned in my first post has valve mounted sensors and obviously works with MTCB head units
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Yes I think.
I would need to remove and refit them on every tire rotation.
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Why? Sure, if they are somehow hard coded to location its sort of funny when they might not match the picture, but you only have 4 tires. Its pretty easy to check them when they are low.
You want internal sensors for TPMS. Less chance for losing them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cable-Bueto...Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-/271315933336
I understand the point about tire rotation and internal sensors. Would it be possible to make the same rotation in the app, since all sensors are doing the same thing anyway? Eg. If you rotate your right front to right rear, make the same in the app to correspond with the sensor location?
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Yes, mapping is possible. Depends on product.
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Anyone have a idea if this would work with a joying head unit.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wire...61,searchweb201560_8,searchweb1451318400_6150
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Hi All,
I have also interest for this. Somebody could give some information ? It works, or any other bluetooth type, using with external attached bluetooth 4.0 dongle ?
Well, I found out most of the connections for the TPMS as Klyde didnt send me a lead - power and ground were easy same as the DAB box, then, as its just a mini usb connection its just data + and data -, I know where the one of those wires goes, and narrowed it down to 2 pins for the other, I ve tried both pins and several versions of the TPMS app, but cant get anything. I ve tried looking for BT devices on my phone I thought I found 1 but my phone wouldnt connect and the headunit's BT wouldnt see it, my phone wouldnt connect and after removing all the batteries on the TPMS it still showed up so it couldnt be that. Totally stumped, just cant get it to work.
TPMS-Type
Let me inform you that for some time I'm trying to find a TPMS system that works well with Android auto MTCB-C I have made several purchases and placements from various vendors I will mention my experience to help future stakeholders.
For GS, KD, and JY machines, the following set works very well:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-for-SilverStrong-Android-CAR-DVD-Car-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-4-Sensors-Alarm-Tire-Temperature/32803916037.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.IU13AC
It has its own very friendly app and it works with automatic start-up in the background and immediately informs if something goes wrong with the tires of the car, I recommend it for the above!
But last time I discovered another type with external valves that works very well with a Klyde machine and that's it:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car-Tire-Pressure-System-TPMS-Only-for-Klyde-Brabd-Car-DVD-Radio-display-the-tempreature-and/32806152062.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.0.pPlup1
OR
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Tyre-Pressure-Monitoring-System-For-Car-Android-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-Car-Stereo/32808928613.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.0.OJcJUk
I believe I helped my friends.
spirosme said:
Let me inform you that for some time I'm trying to find a TPMS system that works well with Android auto MTCB-C I have made several purchases and placements from various vendors I will mention my experience to help future stakeholders.
For GS, KD, and JY machines, the following set works very well:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-for-SilverStrong-Android-CAR-DVD-Car-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-4-Sensors-Alarm-Tire-Temperature/32803916037.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.IU13AC
It has its own very friendly app and it works with automatic start-up in the background and immediately informs if something goes wrong with the tires of the car, I recommend it for the above!
But last time I discovered another type with external valves that works very well with a Klyde machine and that's it:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car-Tire-Pressure-System-TPMS-Only-for-Klyde-Brabd-Car-DVD-Radio-display-the-tempreature-and/32806152062.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.0.pPlup1
OR
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Tyre-Pressure-Monitoring-System-For-Car-Android-DVD-GPS-Radio-Player-Car-Stereo/32808928613.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.0.OJcJUk
I believe I helped my friends.
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Thanks for your post - I have the Last type, Klyde themselves supplied me with it, but they did not send me the lead and they did not reply to me when I asked for it, so I had to make one, but I still cannot get it to work, could you post a picture of the lead (the end that plugs into the head unit) so I can see which wires go where (I have seen the picture in your 3rd link before, but I cannot see where all the wires go) ?
Hi, I am looking to buy a new double-din head unit for my car. I was wondering what the best way to mirror my s6 edge to my car and basically controlling the phone through the head unit using touchscreen? i want to be able to use google maps on my head unit. Should I be looking for a head unit that is mirrorlink ready or am i looking for a head unit that is compatible with chromecast (Pioneer's appradio from what i've read)?
Welcome @hackaveli, you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451980
There aren't going to be many options to control too much of the phone via the head unit, unless you're talking just using BT to control synced things like the phone, and streaming radio. AppRadio aside - if you do find android-based head units, or at least head units with app capability, that are wifi capable, and if you have a hotspot feature on your phone, you could do that, tether the head unit to your phone to access the data for your Google Maps and whatnot.
All that aside, I had a 3-series that I put exactly that kind of aftermarket head unit into. And after the initial play factor wore off in a month, I used exactly one of the fancy options on the head unit - Pandora. I would tether my phone, and start the app. And that would've been just as easy to bluetooth the phone to the HU for sound instead of running it from the unit itself. I just found that it was much easier to just do maps on my phone (my mount was vent-mounted so perfect viewing angle and reach), as well as any other things that I THOUGHT I wanted all those goodies on the head unit for. So obviously your mileage may vary on that.
Hello,
Possessor of a A3 Sportback 8P of 2009, for which I have neither GPS nor Bluetooth (that it is of the AD2P or simply for the telephone communications), I wish to replace my current car radio by a system that embarkes all, Android type to get more multimedia features and Bluetooth phone (I currently have a Audi Concert 3 double DIN).
I do not want Audi original mount that adds the additional box to get the bluetooth, expensive to bring this one feature. I do not want a kit Fiscon or Dension either.
I have spotted these different items, do you have any feedback or experience with this type of material?
- http://xtrons.com/pb78aa3p-android-...-7-display-custom-fit-for-audi-a3-s3-rs3.html
- https://www.eonon.com/Android-Car-G...re-32G-ROM-Split-Screen-PIP-Multitasking.html
- https://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd...uchscreen-with-gps-navigation-dvd-player.html
- http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car DVD GPS Navigation for Audi A3 S3_438.html
Do you have returns? Which brand would be the strongest? The most effective? The most stable? Do you have other models to propose to me?
Thank you in advance.
See you soon.
I am in a similar place as you. I have an audi A3 2007. I was thinking of getting the following:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.1.2a404ef6kaXG26
What have you decided on?
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I am in a similar place as you. I have an audi A3 2007. I was thinking of getting the following:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.1.2a404ef6kaXG26
What have you decided on?
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Hi,
I do not know which model to buy, I have to check what subwoofer I have in the back.
On the Xtrons website it is mentioned:
"This head unit is compatible with your car's original BOSE system; you just have to connect the amplifier control cable in the ISO wiring harness with the amplifier control cable in the RCA cable.
Please note that if your vehicle has no BOSE system, but it has the audio port, you need to ask a professional technician to make some modifications of the wires connection; otherwise, your rear amplifier speakers will NOT have sound."
There is information about it here:
https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/audi-a3-8p-aftermarket-android-problems.274954/#post-3284371
I am looking for more information before deciding.
Have a good day.
Thanks for the feedback fireburned. I have Bose in my car so probably the best option my be the Xtrons. I might go ahead and bite and order it. Will let you know how the upgrade goes.
Hi guys, I am new to programming and classic cars. I recently have the chance to buy a 80 model toyota and decided to make a head unit with my old samsung S3. I won't use it to control music or make calls. I just want head unit to show temperature, compass, fuel level etc. By the way, car does not have OBD or ECU, most of the reading would be analogue or through new sensors. Is it possible to attach new sensors to my old phone and read results on the screen? I believe this can be done using a raspberry pi but I am on a tight budget and if I can use what I have at hand for this project it would be really great. I add a sample image of what I have in mind to build. I want it to look genuine and proper for a classic car. Any help is greatly appreciated and I can even offer a test drive with my old beauty if you happen to swing by my vicinity
buy a Bluetooth odb2 adaptor and use the torque pro app.
I simply do not have anything to connect to OBD all the readings regarding the car are old fashion analogue. there is no central command or control.
yeah I forgot about the "classic" part. My bad. Torque will still let you use your phone sensors, so gps speedometer, and gyro based drag timer and hp estimate, but I dont know of anything else you would be able to use. Not that something doesn't exist, I just dont know what it would be.
thank you man I guess I will use the app and look for temperature on my phone.
When did 1980 start being classic, I was thinking pre-70 at least. Which model do you have? I'm trying to remember if the standard DIN size was being used then - I know it was on my mid-70s VW, but that was German, which is where the DIN came from in the first place. Dropping in a 1-DIN android head unit might be easier that rigging up something with your phone.