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Hi! Former Note 4 owner here, about to switch from One Plus 3T to Note 8. It has been a sweet ride with the OP3T but I am getting Note withdrawal already ! I just realized I buy (and lose) cheap styluses (styli?) every other week as I spend a lot of time editing pictures on the fly for our home business FB and IG ads.
Have a simple question:
In my country we have 2 variants available, N950F and the Korean N950N. almost same price, gladly both Exynos which is what I want. However, I would like to know if there is any advantage for any of them regarding system updates timing from Samsung, security updates and the like. Also, any chances of Oreo being rolled out for one of them earlier than the other?
I dont feel a need to root at the moment although just in case I would like to know if there are any major differences or ease of doing that for any of them . I did some research before posting the question and looks like N950F has more dev support but correct me if I am wrong.
I just need to decide on this "XDA world problem" to pull the triger. No one I know understand my conundrum and they look at me like I am from Mars.
Garoto1973 said:
Hi! Former Note 4 owner here, about to switch from One Plus 3T to Note 8. It has been a sweet ride with the OP3T but I am getting Note withdrawal already ! I just realized I buy (and lose) cheap styluses (styli?) every other week as I spend a lot of time editing pictures on the fly for our home business FB and IG ads.
Have a simple question:
In my country we have 2 variants available, N950F and the Korean N950N. almost same price, gladly both Exynos which is what I want. However, I would like to know if there is any advantage for any of them regarding system updates timing from Samsung, security updates and the like. Also, any chances of Oreo being rolled out for one of them earlier than the other?
I dont feel a need to root at the moment although just in case I would like to know if there are any major differences or ease of doing that for any of them . I did some research before posting the question and looks like N950F has more dev support but correct me if I am wrong.
I just need to decide on this "XDA world problem" to pull the triger. No one I know understand my conundrum and they look at me like I am from Mars.
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Updates will be released in tandem. One after other. So not much delay
950N , yes I said it.
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Limeybastard said:
950N , yes I said it.
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Lol...you might as well give OP a reason why you suggest one over the other
sefrcoko said:
Lol...you might as well give OP a reason why you suggest one over the other
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It believe you have better color options and memory?plus made in Korea. LOL
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n950n = no possible OEM jail time issue. F's are a hit or miss. Uk seem ok but the rest of asian and Oceania seem to have the dreaded 7 day jail time.
bober10113 said:
n950n = no possible OEM jail time issue. F's are a hit or miss. Uk seem ok but the rest of asian and Oceania seem to have the dreaded 7 day jail time.
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Really? Why is there no possibility of "jail time" on the SM-N950N? Kindly elaborate.
MrElectrifyer said:
Really? Why is there no possibility of "jail time" on the SM-N950N? Kindly elaborate.
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because the OEM unlock is there by default. My first attempt at a note 8 was a dual sim 950F and OEM unlock was not there. Not being able to root/flash twrp for 7 days and possibility of jail time every time a new rom or csc is flashed is not my cup of tea.
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because the OEM unlock is there by default. My first attempt at a note 8 was a dual sim 950F and OEM unlock was not there. Not being able to root/flash twrp for 7 days and possibility of jail time every time a new rom or csc is flashed is not my cup of tea.
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Well then, that makes me better appreciate my 256GB SM-N950N.
I was on the lookout for the 256GB SM-N950FD 'cause I wanted a globally unlocked, Multi-CSC supported, and unbranded bloatware-free Exynos device with support for OTAs. The Dual SIM support is a welcome added bonus. However, never came across a 256GB version of the SM-N950FD, only 64GB version, which I'm not willing to settle for, especially as I plan on keeping this device (my first ever Samsung Smartphone) for the next 5+ years (unless something a whole lot more useful becomes available) and I'm using it more and more as a full-fledged Pocket PC.
After you've rooted, do you always clean install via Odin in order to install the monthly security updates? Or how do you update the device? Please and thank you.
MrElectrifyer said:
Well then, that makes me better appreciate my 256GB SM-N950N.
I was on the lookout for the 256GB SM-N950FD 'cause I wanted a globally unlocked, Multi-CSC supported, and unbranded bloatware-free Exynos device with support for OTAs. The Dual SIM support is a welcome added bonus. However, never came across a 256GB version of the SM-N950FD, only 64GB version, which I'm not willing to settle for, especially as I plan on keeping this device (my first ever Samsung Smartphone) for the next 5+ years (unless something a whole lot more useful becomes available) and I'm using it more and more as a full-fledged Pocket PC.
After you've rooted, do you always clean install via Odin in order to install the monthly security updates? Or how do you update the device? Please and thank you.
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for monthly updates, no need to be rooted.
If you root then chances are you have twrp and probably are on a custom rom. the dev which makes the rom will update their Rom(monthly?) and then just flash that in twrp.
only thing you need to do is maintain your bootloader and modem up to date via odin. never flash these 2 firmwares that might be provided within roms or as seperate files as they are almost always for n950F.
I too have a 256gb version and it has been nothing but smooth sailing!
bober10113 said:
for monthly updates, no need to be rooted.
If you root then chances are you have twrp and probably are on a custom rom. the dev which makes the rom will update their Rom(monthly?) and then just flash that in twrp.
only thing you need to do is maintain your bootloader and modem up to date via odin. never flash these 2 firmwares that might be provided within roms or as seperate files as they are almost always for n950F.
I too have a 256gb version and it has been nothing but smooth sailing!
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Thanks for the information. I don't have a custom ROM (frankly, I really like Samsung's feature-packed stock ROMs), I rooted so that I could switch the CSC to the Canadian Fido CSC (FMC) to enable WiFi Calling and also native call recording. Unfortunately, haven't figured out how to get either of those working yet, but also using Magisk root for other handy root applications like Titanium Backup, DisableService, etc., all while keeping Safetynet happy
In this situation, how would you suggest I do the updates without losing system data? Is there a way via PrinceComsy Odin? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for the information. I don't have a custom ROM (frankly, I really like Samsung's feature-packed stock ROMs), I rooted so that I could switch the CSC to the Canadian Fido CSC (FMC) to enable WiFi Calling and also native call recording. Unfortunately, haven't figured out how to get either of those working yet, but also using Magisk root for other handy root applications like Titanium Backup, DisableService, etc., all while keeping Safetynet happy
In this situation, how would you suggest I do the updates without losing system data? Is there a way via PrinceComsy Odin? Thanks in advance.
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updates meaning CSC ? just flash the note 8 CSC pack from tkkg1994
you can also manualy extract the files to your device(dont forget to set file and folder permissions after. I acctualy post updates for the Canadian xac region file in that dev,s thread so he can incorporate them in his flashable zip.
Regarding csc options for wifi calling, unfortuantely Fido is Rogers. they blacklist foreign imei codes. meaning that you need a device sold by them which is total BS.
this is the only "downside" of having a non-carrier branded device
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updates meaning CSC ? just flash the note 8 CSC pack from tkkg1994
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Thanks again for the information. Sorry for not being clear, I meant entire firmware updates, like the security updates and the upcoming Oreo update. How would you flash them on the SM-N950N without losing data? I once attempted updating via Odin with HOME_CSC of the SM-N950N in the CSC slot, but it factory reset my Note 8. I then re-attempted with the HOME_CSC of the SM-N950W (the Canadian Note 8), but Odin threw back an error. Again, I'm not on a custom ROM, only changed the CSC.
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Thanks again for the information. Sorry for not being clear, I meant entire firmware updates, like the security updates and the upcoming Oreo update. How would you flash them on the SM-N950N without losing data? I once attempted updating via Odin with HOME_CSC of the SM-N950N in the CSC slot, but it factory reset my Note 8. I then re-attempted with the HOME_CSC of the SM-N950W (the Canadian Note 8), but Odin threw back an error. Again, I'm not on a custom ROM, only changed the CSC.
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stock csc firmware will wipe your fone at first but once its changed then it should not wipe after. it wipes when carrier/region is switched. flashing stock firmware from an F device to a N is not going to work.
logically is you flash the next korean full firmware update(bl,ap,cp,csc) it shouldint wipe. anyways if i remember right once csc was switched on your 1st attempt then it shouldint wipe on your subsequent tries. only thing that dies wipe is when sim triggers region to change.
if you have trwp then flash the CSC pack. it won t wipe that im sure of.
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...it wipes when carrier/region is switched...
only thing that dies wipe is when sim triggers region to change.
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So given that logic, it would always wipe my Note 8. 'Cause after flashing the official SM-N950N (SKC) firmware via Odin (which makes it now the SKC CSC), I again changed CSC to FMC via @Tkkg1994's CSC Selection tool. Attempting to flash future updates would again trigger a CSC change from FMC to SKC, right?
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if you have trwp then flash the CSC pack. it won t wipe that im sure of.
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I understand and can confirm that. However, that's used after flashing the official firmware updates, which results in a wipe in Odin as it's changing from FMC back to SKC, if I understood correctly. I'm looking for a way to avoid the wipe when doing the firmware update.
just don't flash csc part in odin next update. always use the CSC packs. of course since you flash AP then you have to reflash twrp each time and prolly have to format storage?
but all things put aside, you really should try his Iron man rom! make a trwp backup of your current state incase you want to go back.
So what about SM-N9500, the last update I received had Android January Security fix.
I jave the F edition.
Never went to jail. Flashed over 30 times different roms.
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I jave the F edition.
Never went to jail. Flashed over 30 times different roms.
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you are part of the 1%
maybe not literally 1 per cent but alot of F owners have had issues with "jail" time. there is a whole thread dedicated to the OEM unlock issue.
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So what about SM-N9500, the last update I received had Android January Security fix.
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your on chinese snap dragon. totally different beast.
not sure if that makes updates come faster or not.
n950n just got an update 1 day before the Fs.
the rest are trailing at lest 10 days behind.
so id say the update speeds is:
Ns
Fs
U's
0's
W's
time = X quantity of space... lol
Upgraded to oreo on note 8 n950n
Volte and video phone deleted from dialer as they have on any past update. No biggie. Get into ims settings. Either through hidden kt menu or shortcut lite
But now ims settings requires a one time passcode
And supplies a key code that correlates to a password
No idea where to get key from.. please help!
T Mobile sucks without volte
In my country, the carrier requires you to take the device to activate VOLTE, maybe you need to go in person with your device to your carrier service center
When I was on Oreo I couldn't even access IMS settings on my F. Phone INFO/Shortcut Master wouldn't find the IMS settings menu for me. But I'm rooted & T-Mobile CSC still activated VoLTE & Wifi calling fine for me. But whatever, I'm back to Nougat & won't be running Oreo until things get worked out.
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When I was on Oreo I couldn't even access IMS settings on my F. Phone INFO/Shortcut Master wouldn't find the IMS settings menu for me. But I'm rooted & T-Mobile CSC still activated VoLTE & Wifi calling fine for me. But whatever, I'm back to Nougat & won't be running Oreo until things get worked out.
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How did you go back to Nougat from Oreo? Wouldn't that trip the Knox flag?
I know you are rooted, however just asking if I downgrade will I hit the Knog flag. I am extremely concerned as I am registered to my Org email and other apps which requires no trip of Knox flag along with no root.
Please suggest.
Thanks.
deepakrsarangi said:
How did you go back to Nougat from Oreo? Wouldn't that trip the Knox flag?
I know you are rooted, however just asking if I downgrade will I hit the Knog flag. I am extremely concerned as I am registered to my Org email and other apps which requires no trip of Knox flag along with no root.
Please suggest.
Thanks.
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You can flash back to Nougat & flashing official FW in Odin should not trip Knox but I'm not taking any responsibility if somethig happens.
I have Exynos with TWRP installed so my Knox is already tripped. I switch back & forth from Oreo & Nougat with nandroids in TWRP.
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You can flash back to Nougat & flashing official FW in Odin should not trip Knox but I'm not taking any responsibility if somethig happens.
I have Exynos with TWRP installed so my Knox is already tripped. I switch back & forth from Oreo & Nougat with nandroids in TWRP.
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Thanks. Unfortunately I read from somewhere that even downgrading ROM trips knox. Not sure though. In case someone who has already tried please confirm.
Additionally if I flash G950U1 official ROM on a G950U phone would that still trip knox?
deepakrsarangi said:
Thanks. Unfortunately I read from somewhere that even downgrading ROM trips knox. Not sure though. In case someone who has already tried please confirm.
Additionally if I flash G950U1 official ROM on a G950U phone would that still trip knox?
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I've never heard that either. Generally if you are are flashing official FWs in Odin Knox will not be tripped. And as you probably know you can't flash anything in Odin that is not for your specific device so Knox shouldn't be tripped.
I didn't realize you have a S8 since you are posting in the Note 8 forum but it should be the same. You can flash the unlocked FW on a carrier device but you have to use the PrinceComsy modified Odin to do so. Still it should not trip Knox. What's mainly important is you have to flash FWs with the same version bootloader you are on now. You can not downgrade BL, even if you tried Odin will not let you.
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I've never heard that either. Generally if you are are flashing official FWs in Odin Knox will not be tripped. And as you probably know you can't flash anything in Odin that is not for your specific device so Knox shouldn't be tripped.
I didn't realize you have a S8 since you are posting in the Note 8 forum but it should be the same. You can flash the unlocked FW on a carrier device but you have to use the PrinceComsy modified Odin to do so. Still it should not trip Knox. What's mainly important is you have to flash FWs with the same version bootloader you are on now. You can not downgrade BL, even if you tried Odin will not let you.
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Thanks a lot. Since Note 8 and S8 has almost similar in everything apart from few hardware enhancements in Note 8, from firmware prospect both should be considered as same..
But I read in one of the thread in XDA forum that after Oreo upgrade the bootloader has been changed and you can't downgrade.
As you confirmed if the Odin doesn't even allow FWs which would not be officially compatible then that is an awesome idea. My fear is and always be with KNOX trip since a lot is dependent on that including my work profile email and stuff.
If you/someone knows a way to turn on IMS service switch in Oreo then I won't require downgrade. Essentially I need the VoLTE to turn ON.
Tuff luck it is.
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Thanks a lot. Since Note 8 and S8 has almost similar in everything apart from few hardware enhancements in Note 8, from firmware prospect both should be considered as same..
But I read in one of the thread in XDA forum that after Oreo upgrade the bootloader has been changed and you can't downgrade.
As you confirmed if the Odin doesn't even allow FWs which would not be officially compatible then that is an awesome idea. My fear is and always be with KNOX trip since a lot is dependent on that including my work profile email and stuff.
If you/someone knows a way to turn on IMS service switch in Oreo then I won't require downgrade. Essentially I need the VoLTE to turn ON.
Tuff luck it is.
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Yes Oreo has a new bootloader but you can still go back to Nougat, but latest Nougat. When they say you can't downgrade BL, you can't downgrade versions.
I don't know what variant you have but for example, I have F. Latest Nougat is 3BRB5 or 3BRA8. Oreo is 3CRC1. The 5 digit from the end is the BL version. If the number is the same, you can flash. If the number you have now is higher than a FW you wish to flash tbat has a lower number, you can't, that's what is meant by can't downgrade BL.
Oreo, IMS setting, yes I do know how to launch it. I'm assuming you are Using Phone INFO or Shortcut Master & can't launch. But with Shortcut Master you still can. Instead of launching 467 as you normally would, click on Explore instead to open App Explorer. From there click the second option, IMS Settings will launch.
If you have a N & have the passcode issue as mentioned in this thread, that I don't know anything about. Although I believe I remember a post somewhere that someone posted the codes.
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Yes Oreo has a new bootloader but you can still go back to Nougat, but latest Nougat. When they say you can't downgrade BL, you can't downgrade versions.
I don't know what variant you have but for example, I have F. Latest Nougat is 3BRB5 or 3BRA8. Oreo is 3CRC1. The 5 digit from the end is the BL version. If the number is the same, you can flash. If the number you have now is higher than a FW you wish to flash tbat has a lower number, you can't, that's what is meant by can't downgrade BL.
Oreo, IMS setting, yes I do know how to launch it. I'm assuming you are Using Phone INFO or Shortcut Master & can't launch. But with Shortcut Master you still can. Instead of launching 467 as you normally would, click on Explore instead to open App Explorer. From there click the second option, IMS Settings will launch.
If you have a N & have the passcode issue as mentioned in this thread, that I don't know anything about. Although I believe I remember a post somewhere that someone posted the codes.
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Thanks for this detailed info.
Apologies for being so naive. Mine is 2CRC5 Oreo. Unfortunately I don't know which variant you referred when you say F or N.
But going by your instructions I tried and got an error while invoking the 2nd option i. e. imsserviceswitchactivity. I assume this is related to rooting as it says " su not found. "
If yes, then please suggest me something without rooting to enable the ims switch.
Attached here the screenshot of the error message. Please help.
deepakrsarangi said:
Thanks for this detailed info.
Apologies for being so naive. Mine is 2CRC5 Oreo. Unfortunately I don't know which variant you referred when you say F or N.
But going by your instructions I tried and got an error while invoking the 2nd option i. e. imsserviceswitchactivity. I assume this is related to rooting as it says " su not found. "
If yes, then please suggest me something without rooting to enable the ims switch.
Attached here the screenshot of the error message. Please help.
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Ah I forgot you have S8, that's why I'm not familiar with 2CRC5. F & N are international models. You have a U which is US.
Says su not found which means you need root access to open it. I don't know of any other way. Be sure to verify with the S8 guys before trying to go back to Nougat. Guys on Note 8 have done it but I wouldn't want you to brick your phone in case something is different with the S8.
Since you have a U, that's got me thinking. Are you using your carrier's firmware? If yes VoLTE should already be enabled if they support VoLTE.
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In Settings/About Phone under Service Provider SW Ver, what is you CSC (XXX/XXX/XXX)?
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Ah I forgot you have S8, that's why I'm not familiar with 2CRC5. F & N are international models. You have a U which is US.
Says su not found which means you need root access to open it. I don't know of any other way. Be sure to verify with the S8 guys before trying to go back to Nougat. Guys on Note 8 have done it but I wouldn't want you to brick your phone in case something is different with the S8.
Since you have a U, that's got me thinking. Are you using your carrier's firmware? If yes VoLTE should already be enabled if they support VoLTE.
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In Settings/About Phone under Service Provider SW Ver, what is you CSC (XXX/XXX/XXX)?
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Yeah mine is US model G950U S8 Sprint branded, officially network unlocked by Sprint.
The CSC in my case is SPR/XAA/SPR. I haven't changed the carrier firmware yet in fear of Knox trip. SPRINT does have VoLTE but through their CallingPlus app in beta, not native VoLTE calls.
Moreover after network unlock I moved to India and through IMS settings I did enable VoLTE and enjoyed native calls with Indian operators. After upgrade to Oreo on March 16th, the IMS switch was auto disabled and the ims application didn't get invoked. So now stuck in a no man's land.
Is there any other method (adb or something else) to enable VoLTE?
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Yeah mine is US model G950U S8 Sprint branded, officially network unlocked by Sprint.
The CSC in my case is SPR/XAA/SPR. I haven't changed the carrier firmware yet in fear of Knox trip. SPRINT does have VoLTE but through their CallingPlus app in beta, not native VoLTE calls.
Moreover after network unlock I moved to India and through IMS settings I did enable VoLTE and enjoyed native calls with Indian operators. After upgrade to Oreo on March 16th, the IMS switch was auto disabled and the ims application didn't get invoked. So now stuck in a no man's land.
Is there any other method (adb or something else) to enable VoLTE?
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Oh man, totally didn't expect that one. Unfortuantely in your case the only way I know is to root which is out of the question. I could be wrong but I don't think there is anything that can be done through adb, generally it's enabled by CSC. Hopefully the dev for Phone INFO/Shortcut Master will figure out how to get the secret codes working with Oreo.
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Oh man, totally didn't expect that one. Unfortuantely in your case the only way I know is to root which is out of the question. I could be wrong but I don't think there is anything that can be done through adb, generally it's enabled by CSC. Hopefully the dev for Phone INFO/Shortcut Master will figure out how to get the secret codes working with Oreo.
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The other way could be downgrading to 7.0, where the IMS setting was accessible. My fear is knox trip, if not I can downgrade. What would you suggest?
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The other way could be downgrading to 7.0, where the IMS setting was accessible. My fear is knox trip, if not I can downgrade. What would you suggest?
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Yeah, the knox part is the questionable part as obviously it can't be reversed if tripped. I don't want to say something & mistakenly have it trip. But as we talked about flashing in Odin back to Nougat should not trip knox however you stated you read otherwise?
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Yeah, the knox part is the questionable part as obviously it can't be reversed if tripped. I don't want to say something & mistakenly have it trip. But as we talked about flashing in Odin back to Nougat should not trip knox however you stated you read otherwise?
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Thanks. I tried the app earlier too. The VoLTE option is not there. I don't want to downgrade unless I find a way to enable it.
I have searched over internet a lot and found mixed responses about KNOX tripping during downgrade or any unofficial try related to firmware.
I will wait for next few days for any help regarding the VoLTE enabler app or procedure. If not, I have the Nougat latest firmware ready with me(as you suggested earlier - same bootloader version). Eventually I have to go back. VoLTE is a must for me use this device in India with 4G connections.
Hope you may show some new light towards this fix.
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Yeah, the knox part is the questionable part as obviously it can't be reversed if tripped. I don't want to say something & mistakenly have it trip. But as we talked about flashing in Odin back to Nougat should not trip knox however you stated you read otherwise?
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Finally I downgraded to the latest Nougat ROM available for this device. Everything was smooth. I was able to enable VoLTE as we discussed. Thanks to you for providing me confidence.
I'll still wait for anyone confirming IMS app invoke on Oreo (without Root) before upgrade. Till then Happy with Nougat ROM.
Thanks again.
deepakrsarangi said:
Finally I downgraded to the latest Nougat ROM available for this device. Everything was smooth. I was able to enable VoLTE as we discussed. Thanks to you for providing me confidence.
I'll still wait for anyone confirming IMS app invoke on Oreo (without Root) before upgrade. Till then Happy with Nougat ROM.
Thanks again.
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Nice, good to hear! :good:
I did ask the dev for Phone INFO/Shorcut Master about Oreo support for the secret codes. He's aware of the issue & said he'll try to find a way to fix it. Hopefully he figures it out.
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Nice, good to hear! :good:
I did ask the dev for Phone INFO/Shorcut Master about Oreo support for the secret codes. He's aware of the issue & said he'll try to find a way to fix it. Hopefully he figures it out.
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Thanks. Many of us are waiting for this fix btw. There are several threads on this on XDA.
I too hope for an efficient fix soon.
Hi, I have cracked the password for the otp key, you can get the java program from below
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnEZ2ptLoUQKgfV6fNSZIyQlf-cC5Q
Your pc must have Java installed.
1. run the java program by:
java OTP_Cracker yyit4(replace this key with your otp key)
the program output should be：
key:yyit4 pwd:1406604358
key:yyit4 pwd:1405418437
key:yyit4 pwd:1404232516
key:yyit4 pwd:1403046595
key:yyit4 pwd:1401860674
key:yyit4 pwd:1400674753
One of the pwd should be ok for the key. Entering the pwd in your phone then you can get in the volte settings.
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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Yes you can root Oreo to easy if you have exynos version you cant update to Oreo if you already on Nougat rooted you must first unroot and flash stock firmware than update to Oreo and than root...in other case update to Oreo than root
with root you lose warrianty and samsung pay, knox and you cant update firmware until you not unroot.....about other apps like camera or something you dont need worry root not break it its work normal.
about root if you dont know why you need it than you not need it. I root my phone because need it for few mods and apps which need root. i thinking now to go back to stock and update to May security patch than root again.
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kanej2006 said:
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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^ Thank you so much for your response. I am not at all bothered or interested to use Samsung pass & security, will never use either, just further bloatware I intend to get rid of!
I ordered my dual sim Note 8 from Middle East, 99% will be the Exynos version. I shall confirm once received the model number. I'm hoping it's the Exynos version as performance and battery life is even better than the Snapdragon one.
There are a number of apps that I use which require access such as root explorer, titanium backup and Adaway.
After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?
JC37 said:
After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?
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Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.
wisefreakz said:
Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.
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Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?
JC37 said:
Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?
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Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)
BluePhnx said:
Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)
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Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!
JC37 said:
Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!
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Try the rom threads for note 8 for custom roms. Look at weta rom for music type rom if you're into music for eg. But make sure it say for n950F and Not n950u.
I've just been reading haven't rooted mine yet.
Try them out and see what you like.
Titanium backup is good for backup of apps and there data.
Adaway great for system wide ad blocking.
Make sure to backup your efs partitions first!! Lose that and no imei and no cell network.
Hi!
Can anyone tell me what do I need to downgrade from Android 9 to Android 8 without rooting my Note 8?
I have Odin 3.13.1, also I found original firmware on Samsmobile - PDA N950FXXS5CRK4 and CSC N950FMSR5CRHA
Currently installed is N950FXXU5DSC2
Do I need anything else?
Do I need first to do factory reset and then revert back to Oreo or it can be done straight away?
I don't like Pie because call recording doesn't work. I already knew that, but some users reported that it still working on their devices after Pie update, so I wanted to try myself.
Call recording is one of the features that I use every day and I need it, but I'm using Samsung pay, so I can't root my device.
Thanks!
georgekg said:
Hi!
Can anyone tell me what do I need to downgrade from Android 9 to Android 8 without rooting my Note 8?
I have Odin 3.13.1, also I found original firmware on Samsmobile - PDA N950FXXS5CRK4 and CSC N950FMSR5CRHA
Currently installed is N950FXXU5DSC2
Do I need anything else?
Do I need first to do factory reset and then revert back to Oreo or it can be done straight away?
I don't like Pie because call recording doesn't work. I already knew that, but some users reported that it still working on their devices after Pie update, so I wanted to try myself.
Call recording is one of the features that I use every day and I need it, but I'm using Samsung pay, so I can't root my device.
Thanks!
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You don't need anything else, I believe. The firmware you found will be able to downgrade to Oreo, so you're in luck.
Downgrading and going back to Oreo via Odin might potentially factory reset your device which includes formatting your internal storage. Just be aware of that and backup all your files and important stuff.
Yes, I know that internal storage can be formatted
I asked just to check myself, because I didn't do anything for years, since I had Note 1 [emoji16]
Thanks!
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Please tell me.
Have you downgraded from PIE to Oreo. I'm also interested to downgraded from PIE to Oreo due to below mention reason.
After updating to PIE, i'm note able to use hybrid sim slot on my Galaxy Note 8. When i insert hybrid in Galaxy note 8 Pie, POPUP appears says sim card tray slot problem, but phone has read both behind and memory card. Pop does not get disable and stuck on the screen. Forcefully i need to remove the slot and reverse back to 1 sim and MC
I downgrade to this version n950fxxs5csb3 without problem, all working perfect and in this version dont have the update notification to pie
Just make sure to full wipe your device and use de csc file, not the home scs; by that way will make a full erase into the proces to device
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I keep getting a fail
sw rev check fail bootloader device 6 binary 5
Does anyone know what i should do?
alter3go said:
I keep getting a fail
sw rev check fail bootloader device 6 binary 5
Does anyone know what i should do?
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You ****ed up
You can not downgrade with bootloader 6
Reaper1337 said:
You ****ed up
You can not downgrade with bootloader 6
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Did I do something wrong?
Technically
You updated to the Version 6 Bootloader
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Did I do something wrong?
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You have updated to bootloader ver. 6
N950FXXU "6" DSE3
OERO stopped at bootloader ver. 5
N950FXXS "5" DSC2
Their is nothing you can do to downgrade now! The bootloader 6 won't allow itself to be downgraded to ver. 5 only will go UP in ver. 7, 8, etc....
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You have updated to bootloader ver. 6
N950FXXU "6" DSE3
OERO stopped at bootloader ver. 5
N950FXXS "5" DSC2
Their is nothing you can do to downgrade now! The bootloader 6 won't allow itself to be downgraded to ver. 5 only will go UP in ver. 7, 8, etc....
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There isn't a way to wipe the entire phone?
This sucks big time.
Can I at least still root my phone?
alter3go said:
There isn't a way to wipe the entire phone?
This sucks big time.
Can I at least still root my phone?
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You are stuck with that bootloader. No way around it.
Yes you can still root. Just make sure you know what you will lose by doing so, like Samsung pay and secure folder, will never ever get these back as it trips the Efuse (it would require a motherboard replacement to fix)
Thanks for the advice. I really want the phone recording capability back that got disabled with the Pie update. You wouldn't happen to know of a workaround to make phone recording work again on Android 9?
alter3go said:
Thanks for the advice. I really want the phone recording capability back that got disabled with the Pie update. You wouldn't happen to know of a workaround to make phone recording work again on Android 9?
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The thread below claims "Pie Call Recording Working"
It is not something that I have used or even looked into, hopefully it will help you...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/pie-call-recording-wip-t3905737
alter3go said:
Thanks for the advice. I really want the phone recording capability back that got disabled with the Pie update. You wouldn't happen to know of a workaround to make phone recording work again on Android 9?
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If you're going to root and have to factory reset your device anyway, you might as well flash a custom ROM. I would recommend Dr. Ketan's ROM. It's pretty good with very little to no problems, and has call recording added by default and enabled.
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You are stuck with that bootloader. No way around it.
Yes you can still root. Just make sure you know what you will lose by doing so, like Samsung pay and secure folder, will never ever get these back as it trips the Efuse (it would require a motherboard replacement to fix)
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Wichtig Guide do I have to follow to root to use with the newest bootloader?
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If you're going to root and have to factory reset your device anyway, you might as well flash a custom ROM. I would recommend Dr. Ketan's ROM. It's pretty good with very little to no problems, and has call recording added by default and enabled.
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Thanks. But does the custom rom also allow me to keep usng the S-pen and apps that come with it?
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Thanks. But does the custom rom also allow me to keep usng the S-pen and apps that come with it?
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Depends on the custom rom
If it is a note rom, then all spen features are still intact
If it's a s9 rom for example, then not.
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The thread below claims "Pie Call Recording Working"
It is not something that I have used or even looked into, hopefully it will help you...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/pie-call-recording-wip-t3905737
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It does work,tried it,used INS.
Only thing was there was no 'choice' to do a recording.
You either have to record all or just certain numbers.
There was no 'start' recording button,at least not in the rom I used,stock/standard default UK rom.
May be it is different feature if flash different rom or different csc like THL maybe?
Also inserting and booting with a sim that has call recording feature,INS-India,THL-Thailand works.
Basically does the same as the link.
I also flashed oreo but couldn't stop the update nag so just let it update back to pie.
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Thanks. But does the custom rom also allow me to keep usng the S-pen and apps that come with it?
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Despite what Reaper1337 said, all ROMs are based on the stock Note 8 firmware, which means all the included SPen functions and features are intact and working. You can't flash S9 ROMs to the Note 8 and I'm not aware of any ROMs that were directly ported from the S9, thereby removing SPen features. All ROMs that are "S9 ports" just bring certain apps and things from the S9 over while still keeping the base Note 8 features intact.
In short: all ROMs will work like the stock firmware, with the exception of the one project which's name I forgot that's essentially stock Android. But it's incompletely and terribly unstable and buggy, so I wouldn't suggest that anyway.
Hello, I have a medical condition that requires an app to keep in touch with my doctors, but the latest version of Android (Android Pie) has broken the app.
When I try to downgrade using the oreo firmware, however and obviously, it fails with a binary error as Samsung has changed the phone's binary number from 2 to 3.
I was wondering if there is a way to use TWRP to flash the binary onto the phone, because I am in no position to buy or trade in for a newer phone (No money, No service center). If not then that sucks balls.
My Phone:
Samsung Note 9 Exynos model (SM-960F), Australasian Unlocked (XSA)
Baseband N960FXXS3CSG2
Thanks for helping.
RetLITE said:
Hello, I have a medical condition that requires an app to keep in touch with my doctors, but the latest version of Android (Android Pie) has broken the app.
When I try to downgrade using the oreo firmware, however and obviously, it fails with a binary error as Samsung has changed the phone's binary number from 2 to 3.
I was wondering if there is a way to use TWRP to flash the binary onto the phone, because I am in no position to buy or trade in for a newer phone (No money, No service center). If not then that sucks balls.
My Phone:
Samsung Note 9 Exynos model (SM-960F), Australasian Unlocked (XSA)
Baseband N960FXXS3CSG2
Thanks for helping.
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You could root the phone and then downgrade it.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
You could root the phone and then downgrade it.
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If thats true, can you point me in the way to do it?
That is if its true.
You can't move back from ver. 3 to 2
Fingers crossed maker's of the apk correct the issue on pie