Rooting, does it break anything? Can Oreo be rooted? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.

kanej2006 said:
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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Yes you can root Oreo to easy if you have exynos version you cant update to Oreo if you already on Nougat rooted you must first unroot and flash stock firmware than update to Oreo and than root...in other case update to Oreo than root
with root you lose warrianty and samsung pay, knox and you cant update firmware until you not unroot.....about other apps like camera or something you dont need worry root not break it its work normal.
about root if you dont know why you need it than you not need it. I root my phone because need it for few mods and apps which need root. i thinking now to go back to stock and update to May security patch than root again.
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kanej2006 said:
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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Logel said:
For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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^ Thank you so much for your response. I am not at all bothered or interested to use Samsung pass & security, will never use either, just further bloatware I intend to get rid of!
I ordered my dual sim Note 8 from Middle East, 99% will be the Exynos version. I shall confirm once received the model number. I'm hoping it's the Exynos version as performance and battery life is even better than the Snapdragon one.
There are a number of apps that I use which require access such as root explorer, titanium backup and Adaway.

After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?

JC37 said:
After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?
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Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.

wisefreakz said:
Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.
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Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?

JC37 said:
Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?
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Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)

BluePhnx said:
Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)
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Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!

JC37 said:
Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!
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Try the rom threads for note 8 for custom roms. Look at weta rom for music type rom if you're into music for eg. But make sure it say for n950F and Not n950u.
I've just been reading haven't rooted mine yet.
Try them out and see what you like.
Titanium backup is good for backup of apps and there data.
Adaway great for system wide ad blocking.
Make sure to backup your efs partitions first!! Lose that and no imei and no cell network.

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Samsung Galaxy S7Edge [SM-G935A] [Android 7.0] Root Is Ready..!

Here Is PROFF OF Some Testing Of Root In Android 7.0 Nuggets..! We Test Root In Make Backup Of EFS From Phone..!
Its Show The Phone Is Rooted..!
The Root Is Working Till Today Updates Like Charm..! Without Tripping Knox Or Without Voiding Warrenty..!!
Have A Look In Image On Adroid Version Is 7.0 Nuggets..! &
Checking Superuser right.....True..!
Here Is Images As [Proff]-->View attachment 4061161
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So....link to how you did it?
How was this achieved? Engboot for nougat?
samung frp removal said:
Here Is PROFF OF Some Testing Of Root In Android 7.0 Nuggets..! We Test Root In Make Backup Of EFS From Phone..!
Its Show The Phone Is Rooted..!
The Root Is Working Till Today Updates Like Charm..! Without Tripping Knox Or Without Voiding Warrenty..!!
Have A Look In Image On Adroid Version Is 7.0 Nuggets..! &
Checking Superuser right.....True..!
Here Is Images As [Proff]-->View attachment 4061161
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Will it be perm root and be able to have use of Recovery like TWRP? i assume system less root? Please share this method with TWRP devs and other big root devs you can find on this forum so we can hopefully get AOSP on S7 AT&T edge if you think that is possible with this. Tired of SAMSUNG UX Lag
no need twrp or su install its temp root safe root..! and best root..no void knox..no void warrenty..! its best root eng boot root. @TheSCorpian420 this is temp root safe root best root.
eng boot root by samsung official..!
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samung frp removal said:
no need twrp or su install its temp root safe root..! and best root..no void knox..no void warrenty..! its best root eng boot root. @TheSCorpian420 this is temp root safe root best root.
eng boot root by samsung official..!
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Dude...are you going to link to how it's achieved or what..
You could try this
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767141717
thescorpion420 said:
You could try this
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767141717
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Have you tried this? Is there nothing that says this is for N and not MM? I guess I'll try it since i have the luxury of this being an extra phone...ill let you know how it goes.
Can any one confirm if it work and what issues does it have
bluemooncityzen225 said:
Have you tried this? Is there nothing that says this is for N and not MM? I guess I'll try it since i have the luxury of this being an extra phone...ill let you know how it goes.
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Let us know. This whole thing seems fishy lol.
muppetmaster916 said:
Let us know. This whole thing seems fishy lol.
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So...I guess it technically works. I flashed this linked file with modified version of Odin then ran root.bat. Samsung phone info app says i have root and i even get the prompt to deny or grant access to apps but have yet to actually get one of the apps requiring root to open. Flashfire has been sitting on loading for about 10 minutes now. One thing for sure is, it is SUPER laggy. I.don't recommend it. Not worth it in my opinion, ill probably go back to MM if i want root.
There was "Onion root" for 6.01 in the T-Mobile area. Has anyone tried that? Will it work for this Nougat test kernel?
no any root work in Nuggets
also Nugget Root Never Relased It..! We Have The Temp Root Which We Got From Korean Samsung Devlopers Team who Devloped The Files..!
We Have The Root S7Edge At&T Nugget I can Help You Inbox Me..!
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rlewis312010 said:
There was "Onion root" for 6.01 in the T-Mobile area. Has anyone tried that? Will it work for this Nougat test kernel?
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Onionroot is just an automated process to flash the engboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-method-nougat-t3566978
buggy bout the same as mm
I guess if someone required payment we can consider it lol
But please ......
Could someone consider providing a full system dump from AT&T Galaxy S7 Edge with N ?
I'm told that this should be able to be done without root using a root explorer app or with an abd pull command
We would greatly appreciate the files in order to get VoLTE and proper CSC for our SM-935F devices!
We do not have proper CSC
Thank you!!!!
I knew from beginning this was a BS post to gain thanks etc his account is disabled any moderator please disable and delete these threads he made in s7 news and here.
Root without an unlocked bootloader ends with N. The wise saw this coming. I doubt anyone will "leak" the tools to unlock bootloader. I'm staying on MM with exposed and lucky patcher.
rlewis312010 said:
Root without an unlocked bootloader ends with N. The wise saw this coming. I doubt anyone will "leak" the tools to unlock bootloader. I'm staying on MM with exposed and lucky patcher.
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im rooted using n eng kernel
I just ran across this root method which appears not to use the engboot and apparently works on the AT&T SGS7 edge. I have yet to read the rest of the thread, but it has been mentioned in a couple Android sites.

Note 8 new user

Hello everybody
Back to android os after many years using note 8 (exynos)
Have many questions want answers
1-My battery sucks so does flashing a custom kernel will preserve the battery??
2-After flashing a custom firmware can i be back to official rom anytime and continue to recieve official updates anytime as i may need secure folder option which is only found on official roms
3-any recommendation for a rom that is stable or a note 9 port for exynos note 8??
Thanks in advance and sorry for the silly questions
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Custom firmware only after root, which will trip knox and thus the end of secure folder (irreversible)...
Congrats! This dwvice is really good, about your batt, why do you say it is bad? How much SOT it is giving you? Average SOT around here is from 5 to 6 hrs, it depends on how many apps you have, and which ones are those, facebook is famous for beeing a batt hog , there are some threads about this, now about flashing some kernel, I think that would help, but regarding the secure folder, once you root, or flash any custom firmware, you will trip knox, and samsung pay and secure folder will be gone FOREVER, there is no going back, no way to revert the knox 0x1 to original 0x0, so, think about it carefully, if secure folder is really important for you, you can only flash official unmodified firmwares, besides, if you trip knox, SHealth will stop working too, although there is a patch to make it work
winol said:
Congrats! This dwvice is really good, about your batt, why do you say it is bad? How much SOT it is giving you? Average SOT around here is from 5 to 6 hrs, it depends on how many apps you have, and which ones are those, facebook is famous for beeing a batt hog , there are some threads about this, now about flashing some kernel, I think that would help, but regarding the secure folder, once you root, or flash any custom firmware, you will trip knox, and samsung pay and secure folder will be gone FOREVER, there is no going back, no way to revert the knox 0x1 to original 0x0, so, think about it carefully, if secure folder is really important for you, you can only flash official unmodified firmwares, besides, if you trip knox, SHealth will stop working too, although there is a patch to make it work
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I can get back to official and get updates but wont get the secure folder back right??
About SOT average is 4 hours although i followed many threads switching off alot of stuff like edge lighting and onscreen display and location service
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You will get OTA when you flash an official firmware, some buddies report that it must be a firmware intended for the country where you use the device, and in some cases a specific firmware for the carrier that issued the sim card installed, but some others get OTA with only the firmware beeing official, I think it is carrier related, you will get OTA, just choose the firmware for your specific conutry and carrier to be sure, and if you tripped. Knox, no, no secure folder and samsung pay
winol said:
You will get OTA when you flash an official firmware, some buddies report that it must be a firmware intended for the country where you use the device, and in some cases a specific firmware for the carrier that issued the sim card installed, but some others get OTA with only the firmware beeing official, I think it is carrier related, you will get OTA, just choose the firmware for your specific conutry and carrier to be sure, and if you tripped. Knox, no, no secure folder and samsung pay
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Thank you so much for your reply
Any recommendations for specific root/kernel/recovery/rom??
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I really would not know, I bought my note 8 in october 2017, since then I installed bk disabler pro, to avoid updates,, and I did not have intentions to root, so, I am running stock 7.1.1, for me it was more important to control running services and disabling unwanted apps, I heard rummos back then that samsung was blocking bk disabler with the updates, so I blocked OTA, my device runs very fine this way

What's remaining wrong after unroot

Hi, I want to root a Note 8 and then do something and flash with stock rom.
I just want to know what i'm going to lose if I do it like battery 80%¿? Or loss Samsung pay, etc
Hewell said:
Hi, I want to root a Note 8 and then do something and flash with stock rom.
I just want to know what i'm going to lose if I do it like battery 80%¿? Or loss Samsung pay, etc
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You'll lose Samsung Pay, Secure folder and Knox(?) Once you are rooted no getting them back, If your on Exynos models. On Snapdragon models (sm-n950u/u1) you'll lose them when rooted but once you'll go back to stock you'll get them back.)
The 80% limit is only for the root method for the snapdragons models (sm-n950u/u1/w). BUT you'll have to be on bootloader version 3 and below to get root!!! Once on bootloader v4 and higher NO MORE ROOT!!!(Samsung patched the exploit!
On Sm-n950F/N/F/DS (exynos models). You can root away but one thing to be careful of is the missing OEM switch in developer options and no more Samsung pay, secure folder when Knox is tripped. Once missing you'll have to flash stock firmware and wait for 7 or more days for the OEM switch to appear again. You can search xda for possible solutions that may or may not work for the OEM switch issue....

Is rooting with Magisk possible?

Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!
I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
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F0rbidN said:
Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!
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If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.
Misterxtc said:
If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.
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I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.
zerolock said:
I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
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Will I have to do a factory reset in order to root my device?
F0rbidN said:
I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.
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You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.
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Banking apps will work once able to flash Magisk, simply using a system-less root method will allow for work arounds such as Magisk hide etc. which will definitely allow for such apps to work. Exactly as has been seen for the past few generations of devices using Magisk! Anyway... on another note, yes bootloader will very likely be unlockable on Exynos variants allowing for TWRP and custom rom installation but highly unlikely on Snapdragon variants.
Misterxtc said:
You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.
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Are you sure about permanent block ?!
A0_o said:
Are you sure about permanent block ?!
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Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.
Misterxtc said:
Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.
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i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.
Wish SuperUser root XDA god 'Chainfire' hadn't retired!
A0_o said:
i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.
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Are you talking about sig. spoofing like Firegapps and stuff?
I'm waiting for anyone who has enough guts to try, all I really want is v4a.
This is the last galaxy I buy I think, prolly go one plus next time. But yea this is a waiting game. I'm waiting for someone to bribe the dev's to prenstall v4a for us in an ota update. Hey be a great April fools joke ....heh

How to completely remove root and relock bootloader from note 8?

I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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srjsrajan said:
I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.
jonny908 said:
Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.
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Googlepay is working. Samsung is not. Btw thanks for replying bro.
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I agree with Jonny908. You will need to buy a new phone, or change the board (resulting in a mismatched IMEI) as there isn't any way to "un-blow" a fuse.

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