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My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
Don't know if cheaper but I'll be moving to LG g4 pro hopefully if it has what I want. Contract expires soon
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Galaxaster said:
My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
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Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
I've also read that the Nexus 5 (15) is going to have the 620 snapdragon.
Yes... The Moto X PE
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sirobelec said:
Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
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I don't think we're going to see a phone with the Snapdragon 820 until 2016. I'd love to be proven wrong though. It just got announced.
Best hope we have is a G4 Pro with the full Snapdragon 810 that doesn't overheat and with all we wanted in the Note (removable battery, SD card) and of course what you would expect in a flagship (awesome screen - probably with LG it will be IPS, top end camera, and the other features). I'd love for a return to a Nexus with a removable battery and storage but I don't think that is happening.
The last LG G pro, the LG G pro 2 wasn't released for the US market. Maybe the LG G pro 3 will be different.
The LG g4 isn't really an option because it has inferior graphics performance vs the note 4 and almost no development support.
Anyway I'm going to give the Note 5 a try. If I don't like it, I have 14 days to return it.
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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HTC and Motorola have both done the same thing. They both removed expandable storage and then restored it.
The HTC M7 and Moto X both lacked microsd card support. The HTC restored expandable storage in the M8 and M9 while motorola restored it in the Moto X style.
The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
With that said, if you really don't need the Wacom pen (I do), I'd also have suggested the LG G4 or the Moto X Style/Pure if you can also do without a removable battery, with the latter's strongest selling point being that it works on just about any network you can imagine, no countless variants with locked-out bands like everyone who isn't Apple or Google tends to do.
I still don't believe the LG G4 Pro is a thing until it gets officially announced, but if they stop faffing about with capacitive styluses and put a proper Wacom digitizer in there, they're gonna steal all of the Galaxy Note users ticked off by the Note 5 in one fell swoop.
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The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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Really I think it will be a good phone, one of the best on the market but for note4 and s6 owners this phone won't be a straight upgrade more of a sidegrade, where you sacrifice some functionality for other functionality. It shouldn't have been, it should have a clear upgrade
The Note 5 has a lot of competition
The Huawei Mate 8 is launching next month.
Add this to the growing list of Note 5 alternatives:
http://vinereport.com/article/huawei.mate.8.mate.8.to.be.officially.released.in.ifa.new.phone.will.have.front.facing.led.flash.for.front.cam/2344.htm
That mate 8 phone sounds really impressive but these phones need to have some kinda pen especially since their bigger .. I hope the g4 pro ends up releasing
Biggest problem is every damn phone out there have somefunction wich is missing compared to N4
Exempel. Most phones dont have IR like moto
Removabale battery
The S pen and muti window
Support for my Gear S
No wireless charging
And other small stuff... So whatever damn phone i look at is missing functions
Im stickning with my N4 and dont know why we all Gotta chnage phones..mine is great.
Btw. Note 3 owners. Uppgrade to N4 i have them both at Home and n4 is better and worth it.
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For me, the main festure I want that Samsung has now failed on with both the Note 4 and Note 5, is a larger screen than my Note 3. All the things they did taking steps backwards with the Note 5, is just adding insult to injury for me. I don't care what the hell was in the phone, if it still a has a "small ass" 5.7 inch screen, I don't want it. Now I'm completely ready to jump to another manufacturer, after having the original Note and then Note 3, as long as someone comes out with a high end phone with a larger screen than 5.7 inches.
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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I definitely agree in that the Note 3 was the biggest leap forward, given the jump to 1080p, USB 3.0, S800, IR blaster and so forth.
The Note 4 lost USB 3.0, ambient temp and humidity sensors for whatever dumb reason, but I do like the fast charge, pen tilt sensitivity and Gear VR it brought to the table. It probably helped that I was coming from an S3 (would've been a Note 2 if I had my way); coming from a Note 3, you'd gain a lot less, even losing a little.
But you'd lose a lot less than going to the Note 5. Samsung really screwed us this time, and I can only hope they realize their error by bringing back everything with the Note 6.
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hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
Won't recommend it this late, especially when the likes of OnePlus 3 is out there, sorry. Also there is HTC 10. The only reason you should get the Note 4 is if you are getting it at a really low price. I love my Note 4, but a phone running TouchWiz, well it still runs TouchWiz. But if S Pen is a mandatory thing to you then you can't go anywhere else except the Note 4, that's true too.
Exynos all the way, if you don't wish for them AOSP based ROMs.
I don't agree, this is my fourth Note 4. Thought I could replace it with LG G4, no way. Thougth I could replace it with Oneplus 3, no way. Yeah, The OP3 is snappier, but thats it, everything else is better on Note 4.
OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.
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I voted yes. I actually just ordered one yesterday, Due to arrive tomorrow. I was between a rock and a hard place when I made my decision. Seeing as the new notes all have a lot of nice features and speed improvement. The reason I decided on the note 4 is of course the note features as compared to other things like the lg g4 the oneplus etc. And my second biggest reason is that it's the last of the note series to have svlte. Meaning if i'm at a store and someone calls me I can still use data without needing wifi. All newer phones "at least on verizon" do not allow this unless you have volte I think. Problem is I use all my phones on prepaid and verizon won't allow prepaid users to use advanced calling. So if you're on verizon prepaid then the note 4 is for you. If you're on contract or just don't care about svlte then I say get a newer note. note 5 major drawbacks to me. no svlte. no sd card. no removable battery. note 7 drawbacks. no removeable battery and still very expensive.
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I agree, the only reason why i dont choose the note 5 over the note 4 is for the sd card slot, and i dont get the note 7 becouse it is too way expensive.
I would choose the OP3 over the note 4 of course, but it doesnt have sd card slot, and there is only a variant of 64 gb
And i dont buy phones with mobile contract lol
Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?
I've had my N910C for about a year now and it's probably the best device I've ever had. I got it shortly last year after the SGS6 series was released and when the specs of the Note 5 were announced. If I do end up upgrading it will probably be to a Note 7 as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Ohh and another question, which is the variant tag of the note 4 exynos octacore?
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C and U are the tags which stated that you have a Exynos 5433 Octocore device.
I recently bought a refurb TMo Note 4 that went for cheap to use as a backup phone to my Nexus 6P. The last Samsung phone I had was a S4 and I was disillusioned with Samsung since the S3 and very critical of their software, so I only used Motorola and Nexus since. I have opened many phones brands to see their internals including Huawei, HTC, Motorola, ZTE, Samsung and Apple. I'm never impressed with Samsung internal build quality including this Note 4, which I think is cheap considering how much it cost during release. (My opinion, you don't have to get offended.)
I didn't expected to like the S-Pen features so much, along with multitask and pop out feature. This is pretty important to me, to be able watch a video while doing something else at the same time. I can do this with third party apps on the Nexus, I like the fact it's built in for the Note. With Root, Adaway, Nova Launcher, XPosed (reluctantly) the phone is pretty smooth and while not super snappy as my Nexus 6P, it certainly isn't slow. Another important Samsung feature I like is the Game Tuner and this pretty much eliminate the performance issue since I can play games at 720p/1080p and get good framerates. Again I can lower the screen res on my Nexus as well, except this is built in and it only affect selected apps which is much more convenient. Basically, the Note have all the features I wanted built in that I would have to go through extra steps to make available on my Nexus. Did I mentioned removable battery, sdcard and IR blaster?
The only downside for the phone is the finger print scanner is crap, but Smart Unlock works for me so it's not a problem. Other minor issue is the GPS sucks, I had to open up the phone which scared me a bit actually, but I managed to bend that GPS gold contact point upward a bit, now the signal is great.
So I sold the 6P to pay some bills and using the Note 4 as my daily driver. I think the whole Note 7 recall might work in my favor if it cause the phone price to go down faster, then I might upgrade to the Note 7 rather than getting the the new Google Pixel phone.
I forget to mention T-Mobile WiFi Calling works perfectly and stays connected all the time with this phone, a huge deal. For whatever reason it's always disconnect on the Nexus 6P and with Android 7 update it got worse.
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as Note 4 are now very hard to find in brand new condition.
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Disagree, I recently bought 2x Note 4's for around 260€ a piece plus shipping and both are as new! So if you look around carefully you can find them for a reasonable price in as new condition...
Looking at ebay.de/co.uk and you will find good examples.
I would even go further that if they have some minor scratches on the frame, go and buy yourself a new frame. Replacing the frame is easy as is replacing the display assy...
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hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Hi there,
I voted "YES" too.
I have one already (one Month old) and two more for the rest of the family coming this way. Why you may ask?
I need the S-Pen features, I wan't to be able to replace the battery (switch it in 2 min and 100% battery again), I'm using the SM-N9100 dual sim together with the MicroSD card (can't do that with Note 5 or Note7).
Finally the main reason (Price), I have friends in China that can buy it at 280€ , although locked to China SIM's but with a 10min call (using China SIM) and no problem at all using other Region SIM's ever.
It has a CHC rom (China and English) but using ODIN we can easily load the TGY Multi Language ROM with Gapps (Stock) and not triggering the KNOX warranty flag...
PS: The only downside points (by choosing the DualSIM N9100 version) are :
- The lack or Custom Roms (for example 6.0.1 not yet available "officially" in the TGY variant, maybe a few weeks from now since the CHC is "Finally" out).
- Smaller battery (3000 vs 3220).
- Less storage (16GB vs 32GB).
- Only Snapdragon, no Exynos option for dual sim.
- No FDD LTE band 20, but on the plus side we do have more bands for TDD side (traveling).
but unfortunately I really need the "DualSIM" feature .
PS: In China I saw the non-dual sim version at a even lower price (250€). Imagine buying three units at the same cost of the latest Note7. Can't beat the features/price ratio, especially packed with a amazing 5.7 inch 2K super Amoled screen . And I'm not talking about Refurbishing units.
Thanks,
Regards,
OcainD said:
hey guys, i need some of your help, i will buy a note 4 in these days, is still worth buying?
If yes, what model? the snapdragon quadcore or the exynos octacore? which of them have more development for stable roms like a note 7 port to the note 4?
Please i need your opinions, thank you
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Depends ... the note 4 has a fine hardware, but the software (espacially updates) sucks. The note 4 is the first smartphone I never would get again. Don't get me wrong - really, the hardware is awesome, but the software (even with alternative) is just so bad. I came from a google nexus 2 years back and will get a nexus again.
Also I guess the note 4 won't get any more software updates, after the note 5 and 7 are out by now. I would suggest you wait till google releases their new nexus / pixel phones and look at the 6p then. My wife has the nexus 6p and I'm quite jealous - all that what I wanted the note 4 to be if you dont calc in the missing pen. Even the cam is better then the note 4 IMHO. And it will drop in price then.
Oh, and for what I don't like about the software ... it's slow and hangs from time to time. Also some Apps from Samsung are just bad like SVoice ... google now is much better in comparsion. If you ever used a pure android, you know what I mean. Also the additional apps like FB are something I don't want. Then there's the problem with the knox triggering when rooting (could result in a warranty dismissal) and so on. Or some random restarts with stock firmware (right now stock DBT snapdragon). Or the really bad finger print sensor. The Pen stuff is awesome and the OCR works like magic. But I use it quite rarely so it doesn't outweigh the cons.
Also I couldn't find any alternative rom that was working for me (too much stuff in it, too slow, to instabile, you name it) or with cm the health sensors not working and some other samsung stuff.
And to be a bit more clear, after I had some other samsung devices in my hands ... never again a samsung for me personally. Only the best phones get updates for more then like 6 months and new features don't reach the phones ever. Also it seems like there are 20 software engineering camps withing samsung, all working against each other...
But really, this is my personal, strong subjective feeling about the phone - if you like it or not, depends on how it works for you. For me there are too many things that anger me, mostly small things like I mentioned above. Might be it's different for you. Read some more reviews on amazon, even the bad ones.
You could set your priorities and then decide, OP.
Hardware: Note 4 is still decent, but much newer chipset and better chipset are out there.
Software: As far as TouchWiz goes, no comment there. But with a little bit of tweaking (by choosing performance over battery) you could the nice enough performance. But never to the level of HTC 10 and OnePlus 3. Read Anand's review of Note 7 and see the section where they compared the frame rates with HTC 10. TouchWiz lags mate, its as simple as that.
Camera + Display: Display is excellent, and camera is decent enough too.
S Pen: No competition there, again.
Build: Note 4 is the very LAST phone in Samsung's lineup where Samsung used practical materials to come up with a mobile phone. Now all of them are jewellery.
Price: Like I said in my previous comment, if you could get it at good price, which is somewhere around 25-30% lower than OnePlus 3's then "maybe" you could get it.
The note 4 is still a great device I still have my tmo 910t device i just ordered the 910c for exynos which is a little snappier than the snapdragon all the devices in my sig. i still own and use but for a few. I haven't added another note 5c and s6 edge plus to my sig yet. But the note 4 will keep up with those other devices for the age. if you want a loud ringing phone note 4 is it.. The note 5 isnt as loud as the note 4 or the note 3 for that matter..
I currently have a Note 4 on the Verizon network.. Plus it is snapper than most, plus it can handle anything I throw at it app wise.. Never over heats or crahses.. The Note 5 and seven both have none removal batteries, and that is a draw back for me.. Plus it still has volte, and the newer ones do not.. I also have the Droid Turbo on Verizon.. What I do not like, is before I installed a custom rom, the battery would drain, and constantly needed to be charge.. Plus it would over heat a lot and freeze.. I would consider another Note 4 if I needed one.. But when the Note 4 is payed off, I plan on getting any Samsung device or another brand all together.. It will depend on price, and development..
Is it me, or have literally NO phones come out that are worth upgrading to?
It is not you ?
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You are not alone my friend, I was thinking about note7 but I'd prefer my house not to burn down.
I even heard of 1 instance that the s7edge started on fire in guys pocket so i dunno.
Note 5 is still a beast and with note 7 roms, not much reason to upgrade. Keeping my eyes on those PIXEL phones tho....maybe
S7 edge made me jump. As much as I loved using the Note 5 as my daily, the battery life and compact body is what brought me to the S7 edge. Still have the note 5 kicking around though.
One thing that annoys me about the s7 edge is the lack of any really competent and worthwhile screen protection. Even wet application is peeling for me. But I much prefer the micro sd expansion and larger battery to care.
No. My rooted Note 5 runs just fine, so I'll stick with it. I'll wait for the Note 8 or 9 before I upgrade.
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So... The Note 8 is out... Its a great Device! But 1000€ its exaggerated!!
How many Note 4 users will go to the 8? I think not so many...
I'm still happy with my 3 years old Device... (Already with Dr.Ketan's Rom)
Can we hope to a Note 8 porting or witch Rom can you recommend?
Or should i start to save money? [emoji39]
I just ordered a Mate 9 from Newegg today. I seen the price of the Note 8 and my thought was the same ($1200 + tax Canadian here). I'm on my 2nd Note 4 now and this one has the eMMC issue too. So from the reviews the Mate 9 seems like a close contender with the S8 (At this point I don't care about custom roms for it)
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So... The Note 8 is out... Its a great Device! But 1000€ its exaggerated!!
How many Note 4 users will go to the 8? I think not so many...
I'm still happy with my 3 years old Device... (Already with Dr.Ketan's Rom)
Can we hope to a Note 8 porting or witch Rom can you recommend?
Or should i start to save money? [emoji39]
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I like Samsung note, but I'll don't pay this price to got it...
Too is too!
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i will go N8 if same price with N4 lmao
is too expensive with 128gb or 64gb
or i must wait until my N4 die forever
I was going to buy one but I really think the Note 4 is still doing the business for me and can not see the benefit
Note 4 is doing great job for me for now. Even if my phone dies, wont give so much money for a phone.
i ended up preordering the n8 at 12:01 AM on the 24th. I love my note 4, and now even more so since I picked up the 10000 mha zerolemon extended battery. But I really want a new phone. I will hang on to the note 4 for a long time, it has a special place in my heart.
Was happy with my Note 4 (running Norma V20) untill my girlfrien got a Samsung S8+.
Then my note suddenly was crap
Bought the Oneplus 5, and daaaaaaamn this phone is fast and smooth! Kinda miss the S-Pen and bigger screen but daaaaaaamn the speed on the Onepluss overweights everything. Much faster than the S8+ to my girlfriend also.
i have the motherboard freezes and reboots and my camera front glas is damaged. i realy need a new phone
i paid for the N8 600$ with provider bonus, i think thats a nice price.
Well my note 4 is still better , infrared is an essential tool for me and note 8 dont have it... I guess I will wait until note 9[emoji14]
Way too overpriced, so I am gonna pass on that. My note 4 is still running like day one, minus the battery which can be replaced easily replaced.
I'm extremely disappointed with Note 8.
Curved edges (without any alternative) mean that the screen will be much more fragile, and will give you glares on the edges. It is both more fragile AND more expensive to replace than flat screens (we've seen that since S7 edge). If that's not enough, the back is now not durable, it's made of glass and you can break it too.
For me personally, one of the biggest NOs of Note 8 is its heavy weight: 200 grams is much more than already too heavy 167 grams of Note 4. About 3 years ago i have changed Galaxy S3 (100 grams) to Note 4 (176 grams) and the change was drastic... It hurts to talk half an hour or more on Note 4, and in general it's too heavy. I sense its weight all the time, every day, and every day wish it were lighter.
The battery is not removable, and it's real PITA. In my Note 4 a battery fully lasts only 1 year, then starts degrade like crazy (overheating during charge; phone turns off at 5, then 10, then 30% etc). I have got my 3rd battery already! With Note 4, maybe would be able to replace it via service center, but it will be more time consuming, more expensive, you will get your device disassembled so it will no longer be like new (lots of glued parts inside), and you will have to trust all your confidential or sensitive data to be given to the service center with your phone.
Why only QuickCHarge 2 is supported (like in Note 4), why not at least QuickCharge 3??
Where are real innovations? Like no bezels screen (Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, or Sharp Aquos Crystal 2), or stereo speakers (last years' ZTE Axon 7)???
This phone costs 500€ or less. 500€ is an absolute maximum one should pay for note 8 at the start of the sales (assuming all the abovementioned minuses), and then the price should drop. I would probably pay no more than 300€, as curved screen and non-removable battery just impose so much programmed obsolesce, that i refuse to invest more.
Realistically, i'm still on Note 4 with a refreshed battery, with an optimized rooted rom and efficient kernel (android 4.4.4), everything flies, and i do not upgrade as i have seen too many negative complaints about 5.x and 6.x ROMS. The device is fast and fits my needs (except being too heavy), however I really want a new, faster device with more modern OS, preferably Android O.
In the short term, if an Android O ROM will become available for N910F, i'll give it a go.
In the long term, i guess i will be migrating to a reasonably price edgeless device (must be QHD Amoled, preferable 6.2-6.3), very likely Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.
Samsung just leaves no other options, it does ignore its customers' needs.
I'm begrudgingly moving to the Note 8 because I have no other penabled smartphone options on the market; this is a niche Samsung has all to itself until someone dares to compete.
Normally, I'd keep the Note 4 still, but I'm in a bit of an unusual predicament: an unofficially SIM-unlocked Sprint N910P variant on T-Mobile since the end of January, largely because we all know what happened to the Note 7 and I didn't want to chance buying another Note 4 with all this talk of eMMC failures. Lately, I can't even get 3G on T-Mo for some reason despite it having worked before (4G never worked because Sprint locked out the bands on their variant), and my call quality's turned to crap.
In short, my hand was forced due to a carrier switch resulting in subpar network performance on my current phone, and had my family heeded my advice two years ago, we would've switched that much sooner.
At least Samsung will take $200 off for trading in an old S5 in working order, and we've got a pair of Sprint S5s not doing much anyway since the switch. That makes the cost of the Note 8 a bit easier to stomach, alongside the pre-order promo... but only a bit. (Ironically, they wouldn't take Note 4s for trade-in, but there's no way in hell I'm giving up mine like that anyway. I like having an IR blaster for those things I didn't get remotes with!)
As a bonus, I won't have to deal with any carrier branding BS this time. If there's an unlocked variant that costs as much as all the major carrier-locked variants anyway, sometimes even a bit less, why the heck would anyone NOT get the SIM-unlocked version? (Bootloader unlocking is probably a pipe dream for North American models now, though. Thanks a lot, Samsung... if not for import models being even more expensive for a litany of reasons, I would've gone that route.)
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Was happy with my Note 4 (running Norma V20) untill my girlfrien got a Samsung S8+.
Then my note suddenly was crap [emoji14]
Bought the Oneplus 5, and daaaaaaamn this phone is fast and smooth! Kinda miss the S-Pen and bigger screen but daaaaaaamn the speed on the Onepluss overweights everything. Much faster than the S8+ to my girlfriend also.
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Note 8 will be faster
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ubigred said:
Note 8 will be faster
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And? Price justified? I think no!
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Lektrik-7 said:
And? Price justified? I think no!
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Relax. Calm down
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I have a note 4 910c model, i love this phone. I havnt rooted it as yet. Hopefully there will be a note 8 rom soon.
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Relax. Calm down
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Lol. That the problem with messaging. I'm relax.
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I'm still on the original Note 4 and also have a brand new spare one that I have never had to use. That may be going on eBay!
Think I'm gonna wait until my upgrade is due in December to see how this pans out. Not too sure about the lack of capacitive buttons but the dual 12mp camera is a biggie for me. Hopefully a working root will be in place to disable Bixby and all the other Samsung crap.
Found out today I have a permanent 25% discount with Vodafone UK so £45 a month is acceptable.
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Note 8 will be faster
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No. Note 8 has the same hardware as the Oneplus 5, but has bloatware OS instead of "stock" android.
So it will be slower.
So simple question is note 8 would be worth it i am upgrading from my old s5 or should i wait for note 9 or s10
From S5 coming, e.g. note 4 it's worth to upgrade,too. [emoji28]
If you have enough time, you also can wait for note 11 or S12. they will be even better
The note 8 it's an "up to date" high performance device. But in the smartphone section a 1 year old device is an old device .......*crazy world*.
If you have enough money for a few new features and want an 1 year more up to date device, wait for the upcoming devices.
Every new coming device will be a little bit more faster or better as the predecessor model........ every year!
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But how should we know if you should wait for the note 9 or s10 ? We don't know what you want or need. All we know till now are rumors, nobody knows how the end product will be. So you can check those rumors yourself. And for the note 8 there are tons of reviews out there, so be sure to check them out too and decide what you need or want. It's really pointless that we discuss here what is already all over the web. Just my opinion.
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I recently bought a Note 8 as it was an amazing price. Dual sim, 64gb midnight black colour, only 540 EURO, brand new. Considering it cost almost double that when released, it was amazing value. 95% as fast as a Note 9. You can see on Youtube the speed test, even faster than iphone X in most cases.
Note 8 with the Exynos processor is a BEAST. If you can purchase the Note 8 for a good amount, go and buy one. You won't be dissapointed. It is VERY fast especially with a custom kernel and rom.
Logel said:
From S5 coming, e.g. note 4 it's worth to upgrade,too. [emoji28]
If you have enough time, you also can wait for note 11 or S12. they will be even better
The note 8 it's an "up to date" high performance device. But in the smartphone section a 1 year old device is an old device .......*crazy world*.
If you have enough money for a few new features and want an 1 year more up to date device, wait for the upcoming devices.
Every new coming device will be a little bit more faster or better as the predecessor model........ every year!
Greetings, Logel
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Hhhh i know s5 is very old but i heard some rumors that note 9 won't that different than note 8 i just got an offer for 570$ note8 dual sim international and i think that's good however thanks for reply
kanej2006 said:
I recently bought a Note 8 as it was an amazing price. Dual sim, 64gb midnight black colour, only 540 EURO, brand new. Considering it cost almost double that when released, it was amazing value. 95% as fast as a Note 9. You can see on Youtube the speed test, even faster than iphone X in most cases.
Note 8 with the Exynos processor is a BEAST. If you can purchase the Note 8 for a good amount, go and buy one. You won't be dissapointed. It is VERY fast especially with a custom kernel and rom.
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Thanks a lot i have got an offer for note 8 dual sim 570$ so according to your reply it is really great deal
I was forced to upgrade from my Note 4 N910C to the Note 8 N950N with 256GB of internal storage a few months ago, and I have to say that is probably my best purchase of this year! As my N950N is a beast of a device and will run anything without any issues whatsoever. The camera takes excellent shots, which are just as good as those taken on my N910C.
I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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You should absolutely buy it... It's a one time investment phone from my perspective.. It has everything you need in a premium phone... (telling you after using it for 8months)
dieselhazza said:
I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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Pure speculation. You don't know the Note9 will have a 4000mah battery or even what new features the S-Pen will have.
I think the Note8 is the best device I've ever had and probably will be for a while to come. I doubt the Note9 will offer anything of worth to me.
I'd wait to see a couple of price-points about the Note 9 first. The first one is obviously phone's cost. It's likely to be 1K. Is that worth it for the dual speakers and larger battery? Bear in mind screen is bigger and brighter so I'd be wary to assume battery life will be significantly better.
Then there is that upgraded pen. OK it's got bluetooth in it. But how much is that going to cost to replace now? At least with the N8 you can use N7 pens and they are relatively cheap.
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I would definitely wait for the Note 9
Much better battery life expected with the 4000 mah battery.
Also a few nice tricks with the S pen.
You would regret your purchase if you end up buying the Note 8 especially when the 9 is just around the corner
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And it will be almost a 1200$ phone while note 8 is under 600$
AmirPriNcE1 said:
So simple question is note 8 would be worth it i am upgrading from my old s5 or should i wait for note 9 or s10
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If you could put up with the satisfactory Battery Life and the lack of dual speakers , this device is definitely worth your money !!
If you can afford to wait, then kindly do wait and check the Note 9 before making the final decision as the announce date for Note 9 is less than a month away.
Cheers !!
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Pure speculation. You don't know the Note9 will have a 4000mah battery or even what new features the S-Pen will have.
I think the Note8 is the best device I've ever had and probably will be for a while to come. I doubt the Note9 will offer anything of worth to me.
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Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3300mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3200mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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lol I wish it had a bigger battery too. Considering it's size.
dieselhazza said:
Someone is cut haha.
I had the Note 8 and returned it as it had poor battery and wasn't fluid due to touchwiz. I wouldn't give more than 500 to 600 for the Note 8 especially when you know the Note 9 is out in a couple of weeks. You will regret purchasing the Note 8 for sure.
Wait for the Note 9 aa it will have great internal upgrades making it worth while.
The Note 8 has a 3200mah battery which is a laugh on its own on a phone with 6.3 inch display.
I suggest you wait and make the ideal purchase
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3300 mah
A device is worthy depending 0n what it will cost, and what you expect to obtain, pure an simple , note 8 devices are droping their prices, the difference in price against a note 9 may be some 300 dlls or more , so in the end it is a matter 0f the kind of money you are willing to pay…. And what you expect to obtain…
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A device is worthy depending 0n what it will cost, and what you expect to obtain, pure an simple , note 8 devices are droping their prices, the difference in price against a note 9 may be some 300 dlls or more , so in the end it is a matter 0f the kind of money you are willing to pay…. And what you expect to obtain…
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You are missing the point.
Most people buy the Note range over the Samsung S series for the added benefit S pen, bigger screen and business usage.
In other words it should last much longer than others
im also going to probably buy a exynos note 8 tomorrow. i have a s9 plus but the battery life is pretty terrible and there at least root for the note 8.
According to all phone companies it's worth the upgrade no matter the year shut up and give them your money lol