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My nexus 5 recently crapped out on me and I picked up an at&t s6 edge that I unlocked to use on tmobile.
Obviously, its night and day compared to my nexus as far as development..
Anyways, when I go to at&t software update on the phone it says I am up to date, but im on the old OE2 build and want to update.
Will it only update if Im using at&t sim? or is something else wrong?
I'm 99% certain you need an AT&T SIM installed for AT&T Software Update to see updates.
milkit said:
My nexus 5 recently crapped out on me and I picked up an at&t s6 edge that I unlocked to use on tmobile.
Obviously, its night and day compared to my nexus as far as development..
Anyways, when I go to at&t software update on the phone it says I am up to date, but im on the old OE2 build and want to update.
Will it only update if Im using at&t sim? or is something else wrong?
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I just got a AT&T unlocked LG G2 and updated Android with no sim in phone just turned WiFi on and check for updates.To check addition update after successfully update set clock 1 day ahead and check updates again and so no sim is needed.
Perhaps you can Odin your updates without an ATT sim.
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Perhaps you can Odin your updates without an ATT sim.
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OK.The first time it worked without a AT&T sim.I set my phone back to factory and it said it's not registered yet.So I just took a unactivated AT&T sim,put it in phone and check updates and it downloaded the update.So you do need a AT&T sim card to get the updates.
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I also believe you can root your phone and get the updates from here on the forum and flash the update on your phone. What kind of phone you got and are you willing to root your phone or buy a AT&T sim from somewhere but I think that sim has to be active. I have a AT&T sim from Go Phone service that cut off but it still worked for updating my phone.
yeah, I updated finally with a friends att sim. such a pain. i hate how locked down they have this phone.
Yes I agree.
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Yes I agree.
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Thank you. Using an Att sim worked for me too
akhilnaidu7 said:
Thank you. Using an Att sim worked for me too
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No problem.
I have read several threads already and was pretty sure any of them would work but came across a couple posts saying Tmobile and AT&T versions were giving people problems.
I am looking to buy one off Swappa but most of the available phones are with carriers other than Sprint.
I know all US Note 8s have identical hardware so can I purchase any carrier version Note 8, unlock it, flash Sprint rom and be good to go?
Thanks for any help.
jzan said:
I have read several threads already and was pretty sure any of them would work but came across a couple posts saying Tmobile and AT&T versions were giving people problems.
I am looking to buy one off Swappa but most of the available phones are with carriers other than Sprint.
I know all US Note 8s have identical hardware so can I purchase any carrier version Note 8, unlock it, flash Sprint rom and be good to go?
Thanks for any help.
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It is still better to buy the version you intend to service with...unlocked if you want better resale and better switching...but if you get a better deal...any carrier can be switched...the IEMI just has to be added to carrier for all functions, in some cases...and that's where the issues arise...not all techs will do it...Sprint is the most lenient...
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It is still better to buy the version you intend to service with...unlocked if you want better resale and better switching...but if you get a better deal...any carrier can be switched...the IEMI just has to be added to carrier for all functions, in some cases...and that's where the issues arise...not all techs will do it...Sprint is the most lenient...
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ok thanks for the info.
anyone have personal experience trying to do this? most of the phones I see for sale are Tmobile or AT&T.
jzan said:
ok thanks for the info.
anyone have personal experience trying to do this? most of the phones I see for sale are Tmobile or AT&T.
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Check the device's specs to make sure it uses the same bands as Sprint
If it dont then no cause LTE or 3g may not work properly
Most "GSM" phones dont pick sprint up to well
Search switching carrier guide and BlueFox721 on XDA and you will see many
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TheMadScientist said:
Check the device's specs to make sure it uses the same bands as Sprint
If it dont then no cause LTE or 3g may not work properly
Most "GSM" phones dont pick sprint up to well
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False...all Note 8s hardware are same...only issue is unlocked firmware not getting VVM and WiFi calling from ATT and Verizon...which is fixed by flashing complete carrier firmware...T-Mobile devices are running Verizon firmware and Sprint devices are running T-Mobile firmware...
Check it out switching carrier guide xda...google...
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Search switching carrier guide and BlueFox721 on XDA and you will see many
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False...all Note 8s hardware are same...only issue is unlocked firmware not getting VVM and WiFi calling from ATT and Verizon...which is fixed by flashing complete carrier firmware...T-Mobile devices are running Verizon firmware and Sprint devices are running T-Mobile firmware...
Check it out switching carrier guide xda...google...
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Thanks will do!
I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
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I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
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To be truthful, there is most likely no downsides of using a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. You should be good to go! :good:
It won't work unfortunately. I also believed it was as simple as sticking an Activated Sprint SIM in the T-Mo N8, but Sprint has a different system. Another user was having issues with a VZW N8, so I did some research, and even though hardware wise they are all the exact same phone, Sprints system will only accept IMEIs from Sprint N8s and factory unlocked N8s. An IMEI from any other carrier will not activate.
So glad I have T-Mobile.
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cmdauria said:
I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
It won't work unfortunately. I also believed it was as simple as sticking an Activated Sprint SIM in the T-Mo N8, but Sprint has a different system. Another user was having issues with a VZW N8, so I did some research, and even though hardware wise they are all the exact same phone, Sprints system will only accept IMEIs from Sprint N8s and factory unlocked N8s. An IMEI from any other carrier will not activate.
So glad I have T-Mobile.
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There have been others that successfully activates...it will just show a generic pic and some features may not work...otherwise Sprint's byod would be a bust...some iemi's might not be accepted do to contract issues, or being internationally unlocked instead of SIM unlocked...other issues may be the cause as well..but others with ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile devices have activated on Sprint or other carrier with just a SIM...adding IEMI to Sprint database just ensures working features...although, some have had to use a non-active Sprint IEMI to activate their non-Sprint device...still, less fuss with swapping out to a Sprint or factory unlocked device...good luck
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There have been others that successfully activates...it will just show a generic pic and some features may not work...otherwise Sprint's byod would be a bust...some iemi's might not be accepted do to contract issues, or being internationally unlocked instead of SIM unlocked...other issues may be the cause as well..but others with ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile devices have activated on Sprint or other carrier with just a SIM...adding IEMI to Sprint database just ensures working features...although, some have had to use a non-active Sprint IEMI to activate their non-Sprint device...still, less fuss with swapping out to a Sprint or factory unlocked device...good luck
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Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
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Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
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Sprint's website states that BYOD is only accepting IMEIs from the Special Edition of the Note 8...no carrier restrictions...same as S8 and S8+...that restriction may lift after acceptable number of sales of Sprint devices...(1yr later)...but no help now...
Changing imei as I suggested before does not work for Sprint either...just gsm carriers...at least the paid service....and I do research all the time...and if you get a rep that will do it...they can...they just won't because of proprietary sales restrictions...according to Sprint's internal whitesheets...more reliable than online blogs...I have gotten Sprint to Activate a Verizon S7 edge when they weren't supposed to...you just have to go through hoops....they are picky with newer devices though...power with persuasion....
If anyone is still wondering, if you flash the (all carrier no bloat ware) unlocked version of the Note 8 firmware it will work with Sprint. You just need a compatible Sprint sim card. That sim card model number needed is 416Q, same as Galaxy S8 sim.
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If anyone is still wondering, if you flash the (all carrier no bloat ware) unlocked version of the Note 8 firmware it will work with Sprint. You just need a compatible Sprint sim card. That sim card model number needed is 416Q, same as Galaxy S8 sim.
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Awesome
I did read Reddit , posts were from January I think.,and still no solid answer. The byod website says my TMO Note 8 device is compatible with Sprint. But how does one truly know? I don't want to port out to Sprint then find out that it doesn't work.
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Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
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I just had a chat with Sprint online support. They we're able to load my Unlocked Tmo branded Note 8 IMEI to the system. They said it is ready for activation. I will pickup a Sprint Sim card later today or tomorrow and report back.
I can confirm that T-Mobile Note 8 will work on Sprint. When I put the new Sprint Sim in it change the splash page and add Sprint apps. It removed all T-Mobile apps
Do you have access to all the Sprint bands?
Which SIM did you buy and where?
Just ordered my two Sprint Kickstarter Sim cards. Should be here on Tuesday, porting in from T-MOBILE. Will be using them on our TMO Note 8 devices.
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jinftw said:
Do you have access to all the Sprint bands?
Which SIM did you buy and where?
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I think the phone has all bands. I also tried my Verizon Sim card from my work phone and the Note 8 downloaded all of the Verizon apps and I was able to make calls. It even showed the Verizon splash screen when I turned it on.
Here is a pic of the Sim card packaging. I got it from my local Sprint store.
All works fine. Or so it seems. Connected to band 41 I think currently. Amazing how the Note 8 reconfigure itself.
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All works fine. Or so it seems. Connected to band 41 I think currently. Amazing how the Note 8 reconfigure itself.
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So far I haven't had any issues. How is it going for you?
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So far I haven't had any issues. How is it going for you?
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Not bad, not as fast as TMO but then again not as expensive. $15 is $15 , right?
Sometimes, my browsing slows right down. Even on hand 41. Loading pages like BBC etc, it stalls.
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Limeybastard said:
Not bad, not as fast as TMO but then again not as expensive. $15 is $15 , right?
Sometimes, my browsing slows right down. Even on hand 41. Loading pages like BBC etc, it stalls.
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I must agree with you. The network is a lot slower than T-Mo. I have a Sprint branded G7 I got from Swappa and it performs the same as T-MO Note 8 I ported over. For $15 per month I can't complain either.
Indeed, we get what we pay for. I'd however never spend $60 plus on Sprint unlimited plan if it were like this.
Moral of story, Sprint ain't worth more than $20 per month.
cert15z said:
I must agree with you. The network is a lot slower than T-Mo. I have a Sprint branded G7 I got from Swappa and it performs the same as T-MO Note 8 I ported over. For $15 per month I can't complain either.
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I have a T-Mobile Note 8 on boost. I just had to buy a new sim from Boost!
I see on samsung.com that if you buy the AT&T version there, it is $300 off at 699. If I were to buy this, would it come from AT&T or Samsung? Would it have the uninstallable AT&T bloatware, facebook, etc?
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I see on samsung.com that if you buy the AT&T version there, it is $300 off at 699. If I were to buy this, would it come from AT&T or Samsung? Would it have the uninstallable AT&T bloatware, facebook, etc?
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Well. They ALL come from Samsung. If you order it from Samsung.com it will be shipped directly from Samsung.
As far as bloatware, are you looking at the ATT branded N960U or the factory unlocked N960U1?
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Well. They ALL come from Samsung. If you order it from Samsung.com it will be shipped directly from Samsung.
As far as bloatware, are you looking at the ATT branded N960U or the factory unlocked N960U1?
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I understand Samsung makes them all. If you order from AT&T, they ship it from their stock. If you order from Samsung, I would expect it to come from Samsung. Common sense.
My question was if I order the AT&T version (not the unlocked version) from Samsung, are they already all set up with the uninstallable AT&T bloat? I imagine it would be the same as you would get ordering from AT&T, just trying to get clarification. This is just one of the points I'm weighing now that I'm looking for a new phone.
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I understand Samsung makes them all. If you order from AT&T, they ship it from their stock. If you order from Samsung, I would expect it to come from Samsung. Common sense.
My question was if I order the AT&T version (not the unlocked version) from Samsung, are they already all set up with the uninstallable AT&T bloat? I imagine it would be the same as you would get ordering from AT&T, just trying to get clarification. This is just one of the points I'm weighing now that I'm looking for a new phone.
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You asked if it would come from Samsung or ATT. I was clarifying of you order from Samsung.com, it would ship from Samsung. Likewise, if you order from ATT, it ships from ATT. So I guess I don't understand why you asked if it would come from Samsung or ATT.
As far as bloatware, it depends on which one you buy. If you buy the ATT branded N960U from Samsung.com it will ship directly from Samsung, but it will be the same as buying from ATT. It will be an ATT branded N960U with all the bloatware.
If you order the Unlocked by Samsung N960U1, it will ship directly from Samsung and have no carrier bloatware.
That's why I asked which one you were looking at buying.
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You asked if it would come from Samsung or ATT. I was clarifying of you order from Samsung.com, it would ship from Samsung. Likewise, if you order from ATT, it ships from ATT. So I guess I don't understand why you asked if it would come from Samsung or ATT.
As far as bloatware, it depends on which one you buy. If you buy the ATT branded N960U from Samsung.com it will ship directly from Samsung, but it will be the same as buying from ATT. It will be an ATT branded N960U with all the bloatware.
If you order the Unlocked by Samsung N960U1, it will ship directly from Samsung and have no carrier bloatware.
That's why I asked which one you were looking at buying.
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lol, in my mind i was asking something different in that first part. Anyhow, you answered the question. So I guess it's $699 full of bloat or 899 no bloat...hmm. Another point for OP6T.
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lol, in my mind i was asking something different in that first part. Anyhow, you answered the question. So I guess it's $699 full of bloat or 899 no bloat...hmm. Another point for OP6T.
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buy the AT&t version for 699, and then flash the U1 firmware on it with Odin to get rid of all the bloatware.
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buy the AT&t version for 699, and then flash the U1 firmware on it with Odin to get rid of all the bloatware.
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So is that a thing now? Using odin for that? I stopped buying Samsung phones when they started locking the bootloaders. Couldn't pass up the 8+ though with the newer design, but have hated that it's stuck with all that bloat. Disabling apps helps a little. I was under the impression we were pretty much stuck with stock firmware. I guess I haven't looked into that lately.
Any cons to flashing the new firmware? I bet there a thread somewhere, huh?
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So is that a thing now? Using odin for that? I stopped buying Samsung phones when they started locking the bootloaders. Couldn't pass up the 8+ though with the newer design, but have hated that it's stuck with all that bloat. Disabling apps helps a little. I was under the impression we were pretty much stuck with stock firmware. I guess I haven't looked into that lately.
Any cons to flashing the new firmware? I bet there a thread somewhere, huh?
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LOL. It's been a thing for a while now. You could even flash the unlocked firmware on the S8/+. It won't unlock your bootloader and won't trip Knox, so you keep Samsung Pay.
I'm actually using an ATT 512GB N960U, running the U1 firmware, on T-Mobile. No issues at all. And yes there's plenty of info here on the forum on how to do it.
The most concise write up is actually in the Note 8 forums. It's the carrier switching thread. Same method. Just different files for the Note 9 vs the Note 8 obviously.
I am using N960U1 firmware on AT&T Note 9 and using T-Mobile SIM. Even Wifi calling works. Firmware was flashed via Odin and I recieved 2 software updates from Samsung after I started using N960U1 firmware. I use VMWare Work profile for work emails and I can confirm Knox had no breach. Samsung Pay works as usual.
Cashreedhar said:
I am using N960U1 firmware on AT&T Note 9 and using T-Mobile SIM. Even Wifi calling works. Firmware was flashed via Odin and I recieved 2 software updates from Samsung after I started using N960U1 firmware. I use VMWare Work profile for work emails and I can confirm Knox had no breach. Samsung Pay works as usual.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
LOL. It's been a thing for a while now. You could even flash the unlocked firmware on the S8/+. It won't unlock your bootloader and won't trip Knox, so you keep Samsung Pay.
I'm actually using an ATT 512GB N960U, running the U1 firmware, on T-Mobile. No issues at all. And yes there's plenty of info here on the forum on how to do it.
The most concise write up is actually in the Note 8 forums. It's the carrier switching thread. Same method. Just different files for the Note 9 vs the Note 8 obviously.
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Awesome. Thanks guys! Got a little bit more research to do.
But we warned if you buy a U1 from Samsung don't expect all ATT features to work out of the box. If I were you I'd buy the ATT branded one from Samsung. Then flash to u1 should you decide to do so.
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Limeybastard said:
But we warned if you buy a U1 from Samsung don't expect all ATT features to work out of the box. If I were you I'd buy the ATT branded one from Samsung. Then flash to u1 should you decide to do so.
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Yeah, that's the only way I'd do it. It's only $699 for the AT&T version. Honestly, that's the only reason I'm considering this phone now. I was trying to decide decide the OP6T and the Pixel 3, then I saw this sale price today. If I were to get this phone, should I avoid doing any updates before i flash to U1, or possibly the new beta?
PuffinNugz said:
Yeah, that's the only way I'd do it. It's only $699 for the AT&T version. Honestly, that's the only reason I'm considering this phone now. I was trying to decide decide the OP6T and the Pixel 3, then I saw this sale price today. If I were to get this phone, should I avoid doing any updates before i flash to U1, or possibly the new beta?
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If I didn't have one already, I'd jump on that ATT version for 699. But I think I did pretty good with a brand new ATT 512GB for $750 off FB marketplace.
It doesn't matter if you accept updates or not. You can still use ODIN to flash to through U1 firmware.
PuffinNugz said:
I see on samsung.com that if you buy the AT&T version there, it is $300 off at 699. If I were to buy this, would it come from AT&T or Samsung? Would it have the uninstallable AT&T bloatware, facebook, etc?
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My dude, it will have a **** ton of bloatware on it but you can use an app like Package Disabler pro to get rid of it. Also, if you get the AT&T 960U version, it'll have all of the awesome carrier features. You can still accomplish this with the unlocked U1 version which I have but you'll have to flash the U firmware then have an AT&T rep change the IMEI to match an actual AT&T branded phone. It's simple to do but you'll have to most likely make an in store appearance. You can skip all of that with the branded AT&T version but again you'll get a ton of bloatware! Good luck!
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My dude, it will have a **** ton of bloatware on it but you can use an app like Package Disabler pro to get rid of it. Also, if you get the AT&T 960U version, it'll have all of the awesome carrier features. You can still accomplish this with the unlocked U1 version which I have but you'll have to flash the U firmware then have an AT&T rep change the IMEI to match an actual AT&T branded phone. It's simple to do but you'll have to most likely make an in store appearance. You can skip all of that with the branded AT&T version but again you'll get a ton of bloatware! Good luck!
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The easier thing to do is to buy the ATT version then flash the U1 firmware. As far as bloatware, there's no difference between buying the U1, or buying the ATT U and then flashing the U1 firmware. It will get rid of ALL the carrier bloat and it will be the exact same as having a U1.
Then later if he wants to install the ATTA firmeare to get those carrier feetures back, there's no calling in and switching IMEIs or any of that garbage, because he already has an ATT device with a registered IMEI. And he saves $200.
It's why I bought an ATT version. I got it crazy cheap and knew I could just flash the U1 firmware, which I did immediately, then stuck my T-Mo SIM in it. Then if I ever switch to ATT (which I'm considering because of FirstNet), then I can just flash the ATT firmware and it will all work no problem.
There's literally NO advantage here to buying the U1.
Pulled the trigger. $699 was a pretty good deal. At $999, I would have bought the OP6T, but at only $120 more, I figured why the hell not?! I did go to Best Buy and 2 corporate stores to see if they would match, but no luck. The wait is going to be rough, as expected shipping date is next wednesday. I guess it gives me time to get a case or 2 and maybe some tempered glass.
Thanks for all the info.
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My dude, it will have a **** ton of bloatware on it but you can use an app like Package Disabler pro to get rid of it. Also, if you get the AT&T 960U version, it'll have all of the awesome carrier features. You can still accomplish this with the unlocked U1 version which I have but you'll have to flash the U firmware then have an AT&T rep change the IMEI to match an actual AT&T branded phone. It's simple to do but you'll have to most likely make an in store appearance. You can skip all of that with the branded AT&T version but again you'll get a ton of bloatware! Good luck!
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Negative. I preorded the AT&T version directly from Samsung.com. It came with maybe... 3 AT&T branded applications. They were actually usable ones. Samsung bloat FAR out numbers the carrier bloat. I was actually curious about this. I remember buying the Note 4 and Note 5 and there were at least 10 AT&T branded bloatware apps. So either they reduced them, or the ones directly from Samsung aren't loaded as much as ones directly from AT&T.
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Pulled the trigger. $699 was a pretty good deal. At $999, I would have bought the OP6T, but at only $120 more, I figured why the hell not?! I did go to Best Buy and 2 corporate stores to see if they would match, but no luck. The wait is going to be rough, as expected shipping date is next wednesday. I guess it gives me time to get a case or 2 and maybe some tempered glass.
Thanks for all the info.
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Yes the wait SUCKS! My first Note 9 was a 128GB T-Mo model I got from eBay for $700. Then an ATT 512GB showed up on FB Marketplace for $800. I don't need 512GB storage or 8GB RAM, but I just have to have the biggest and baddest so I offered him $750. It had some narly scratches on the screen, so he did an insurance claim (he worked for ATT), and got a brand new replacement device and sold it to me for $750. Both times though I had to wait for the device to be delivered. The waiting sucks, but oh so worth it. And at $699, it's a no brainer.
The OP6T is an intriguing phone and a great value. But so is the Pixel 3 XL IMO. But neither one does what the Note 9 does.
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Negative. I preorded the AT&T version directly from Samsung.com. It came with maybe... 3 AT&T branded applications. They were actually usable ones. Samsung bloat FAR out numbers the carrier bloat. I was actually curious about this. I remember buying the Note 4 and Note 5 and there were at least 10 AT&T branded bloatware apps. So either they reduced them, or the ones directly from Samsung aren't loaded as much as ones directly from AT&T.
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Nope. The ATT version shipped from Samsung.com are identical to the ones shipped from ATT. The carrier bloat is getting better across the board. Although I'd say ATT is still the worst. T-Mobile has the least carrier bloat. And of course if you flash the U1 firmware, all the carrier bloat goes bye-bye.
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Negative. I preorded the AT&T version directly from Samsung.com. It came with maybe... 3 AT&T branded applications. They were actually usable ones. Samsung bloat FAR out numbers the carrier bloat. I was actually curious about this. I remember buying the Note 4 and Note 5 and there were at least 10 AT&T branded bloatware apps. So either they reduced them, or the ones directly from Samsung aren't loaded as much as ones directly from AT&T.
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Not in my case, I purchased the U1 and before I flashed the U firmware, I noticed hardly any bloat other than the usual gathering if Samsung apps like S Health, S Notes, Smart Switch etc. Now after I flashed the AT&T firmware the floodgates opened. Maybe it was just my luck but I got ride of everything I didn't want with Package Disabler Pro but I was simply warning the man. The bloat on my end was tremendous. At least 10 + carrier apps.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
The easier thing to do is to buy the ATT version then flash the U1 firmware. As far as bloatware, there's no difference between buying the U1, or buying the ATT U and then flashing the U1 firmware. It will get rid of ALL the carrier bloat and it will be the exact same as having a U1.
Then later if he wants to install the ATTA firmeare to get those carrier feetures back, there's no calling in and switching IMEIs or any of that garbage, because he already has an ATT device with a registered IMEI. And he saves $200.
It's why I bought an ATT version. I got it crazy cheap and knew I could just flash the U1 firmware, which I did immediately, then stuck my T-Mo SIM in it. Then if I ever switch to ATT (which I'm considering because of FirstNet), then I can just flash the ATT firmware and it will all work no problem.
There's literally NO advantage here to buying the U1.
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I agree in the case now that I've been introduced to flashing firmware. Good call!
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PuffinNugz said:
Pulled the trigger. $699 was a pretty good deal. At $999, I would have bought the OP6T, but at only $120 more, I figured why the hell not?! I did go to Best Buy and 2 corporate stores to see if they would match, but no luck. The wait is going to be rough, as expected shipping date is next wednesday. I guess it gives me time to get a case or 2 and maybe some tempered glass.
Thanks for all the info.
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Definitely a good call. I did the same so by the time the phone arrived I already had the tempered glass protector, case, wireless charging pad, etc.
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Wow, they shipped it already! However, it won't get here til Tuesday even though Brightpoint, where it shipped from, is literally 15 minutes down the road from me. It's stuck in fedex's crummy paws til then...
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
plainbum said:
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (960U ?) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon?
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I don't think so.
plainbum said:
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
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dave678 said:
I don't think so.
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no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
plainbum said:
Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
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no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
youdoofus said:
no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
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btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
bober10113 said:
btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
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yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
youdoofus said:
yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
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but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
bober10113 said:
but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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fell free its just that saying that a korean n9500 is a snapdragon device is wrong in many ways.
plus the correction of saying its a korean n950 snapdragon is also wrong. a typo is a mistake that dosen't really change anything in a statement. being wrong across the board needs to be adressed or at least corrected especialy when this information was supposed to serve as help and be informative to another user(which in this case had 2 problems in the statement). I'm not trying to nit pick at you, more at the relevance and correctness of your posts so that others get the correct information.
the only bootloader unlockable snapdragon devices are the Chinese and south American n9500, n9600, etc.. and so on
the korean n950n, n960n and so on are exynos.
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
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Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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on n960u and n960u1 devices, which are multi sim, have all US carriers csc files already. it will just switch.
on international devices such as the n960f for example, this behavior will not happen since the region of the device doesn't contain USA (XAA) csc.
but that's just talking about csc.
if we talk about modems and the technology used to connect to bands, Verizon uses CDMA. all n960u and n960u1 have the hardware to use both cdma and gsm. on the other hand, the n960f ( and F/DS or even n960n) unfortuanlty do not have the hardware required to connect through CDMA networks. so F devies wont even connect at all to provider.(neither F/DS or n960n)
this is pretty common knowledge and is not new. search and read.
one caveat would be the intl. Chinese or South American N9600 devices. they have the ability to connect to both CDMA and GSM networks plus having the ability to unlock the bootloader(custom recovery/rooting). the advanced carrier options will probably not work completely( csc). but that being said ,calls and data will work fine. uppon rooting, some of the xda community have made flashable zip files to try and restore these missing csc festures.( volte, wificalling ...etc)
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
iceepyon said:
I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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dave678 said:
Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
wow ...lol
lost cause.
dave678 said:
I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
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Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
cmatg said:
Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
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Did you read the whole thing? Or you're just jumping to a conclusion?