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Hi,
I seem to have found a way to stop the ridiculous lag on the camera, although I'm not sure this will work for everyone.
I have a non-standard version of the Camera software installed (I think it's the Touch version from somewhere on here - not sure who, I'm pretty new here so please forgive me), but I've noticed that if I start the camera up, then put the device into standby for a few seconds, then turn it back on again, the camera is *far* more responsive, and this is for both still images and for video.
I have no idea why this is - someone more technically intimate with the Kaiser can probably shed some light on it, but it seems to work for me.
The only downside I can see is that it makes the low-light compensation stop working, but in situations with plenty of light there's no difference whatsoever in image/video brightness.
Andy.
Ya, weird how this works. This work around was discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365345
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my camera quality is so ugly i have one of the newsest camera software installed. i dont mean the lag or anything i just mean the camera quality is so blurry and unclear i have sharpness on high and styll :S
when i press a camera button to take a picture and it auto focuses before the green thing comes for juss like half a second everything is clear buh then becomes super blurry. any suggestions or is jus broken
I've just come back from holiday where I found myself taking quite a few snaps with the Diamond's camera rather than my usual camera simply because it was more convenient.
I don't normally bother with PDA cameras as they're pretty much rubbish but for quick snaps the Diamond's camera is not too shabby. However, I noticed some very strange quirks:-
1. It seems to try and detect the orientation of the camera using the G-sensor and rotates the image automatically. Most of the time it gets it wrong - is there any way to stop it from doing this so I can rotate my images manually? it really messes things up in Album!
2. In really bright light (such as shooting directly towards the sun) everything goes dark blue and grainy. It's actually quite nice (I have a Holga camera so quite into that sort of thing) but I can't think of an explanation for such behaviour!
See attached for an example.
Cheers
Dave
I got a very blueish picture on a bright day (though not against sunlight) too... Though taking a picture inside then yeilded fine colors (well, average quality). Dont know what cause it, must be a flaw in the color metering.
I really wouldnt use the camera for anything other than snapshots or when you dont have a camera around. Even at 3.2mpx like my old Canon A510 (a budget entry camera, hardly anything high end), the Canon beat the living snot out of it. I wont even begin to compare it with my F40fd (again, a budget cam).
Though I must say its much, much better than my old 1.3mpx K600i phone camera, lol.
I've certainly heard that overexposure can lead to a blueish tinge. So you might want to try manually cranking down the exposure and see if that helps next time.
In this case its more than a tint though, there is pretty much no red or green in the image and the contrast is off the charts. Interesting and fun pictures though.
The Diamond camera needs a UV filter as the chip is too sensitive to the high side of the spectrum. Mine is not as bad as yours- and I was taking photographs similar to yours, perhaps there are different back covers that provide filtering- I have the original Diamond cover.
i also had blue pics when taking pics against the sun but with my 4 megapicsel casio camera. last time it happened there where also ppl, (blue) in the pic lol. so, maybe it is not a diamond related problem.
have you tried using the inbuilt setups for exposure?
if i have no other choice an have to use the diamond as a camera i am always take out the back cover. another thing to try
Thanks all for the responses. I actually quite like the blue pictures, and since the behaviour is at least predictable I'm not too bothered. Instant Holga effect
With regards to the G-sensor guessing camera orientation however that is really bugging me. And also I've noticed that the camera on-screen controls don' t flip to portrait mode either.
Cheers
Dave
davew said:
Thanks all for the responses. I actually quite like the blue pictures, and since the behaviour is at least predictable I'm not too bothered. Instant Holga effect
With regards to the G-sensor guessing camera orientation however that is really bugging me. And also I've noticed that the camera on-screen controls don' t flip to portrait mode either.
Cheers
Dave
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Yes, also i am bugged of this. I've take a shoot of a contact image with the PDA in Landscape (the photo was right in this position).
Now i have my friend photo ALWAYS rotated of 90° and, if i rotate the pda, the photo rotate itself and it's NEVER aligned.
Now i can't assign the photo until i don't rotate it by the PC
Exactly - you take the shot and then try to view it in Album. Then you end up wiggling the Diamond around to get the orientation right. In slideshows the orientation is all wrong too.
The only way to fix it that I've seen is to go into the MS "Pictures & Videos" application after taking your shots and rotate each image manually.
Most digital cameras I have ever seen just leave the image alone
Mine is also very blueish (MDA Compact IV here) and it also auto-rotates for me
Hopefully we can find a way to at least turn off the auto-rotation, with some tweaks or new camera software!
The blue-ish tinge in a normal situation is probably just the white balance being off (or overexposure as another poster pointed out).
To get those mad blue shots I had to stand in the surf at the beach and shoot directly at the sun. When I tried the same shot at sunset I got normal colours (though still some vingette effect at the edges).
Attached is a shot from the same day, same place just at sunset.
I'll be honest, i haven't really looked for any alternate software very hard... but what i have found, is either incomplete, or does not have the feature set im looking for.
I was trying to take photos today, and i realized, Auto focus is great for objects at about 7in to infinity distance.
But what am i supposed to do for objects that may be closer? it seems to focus on everything around the object, and totally ignore the subject to be photographed.
Now I'm curious, is there an application that could allow you to manually focus the lens? I mean, it is an electromagnet... and is is controlled by software... and I've seen the auto focus bring the subject in to focus, then loose it... so it make sense that it should technically be able to do it, right?
if there is a software out there that allows the control of the electromagnet in the raph, any ideas?
-Wyefye
I know that on a digital camera when you take a photo ~7in or closer you use the macro feature. Im not sure what that entails but you could try starting from there.
there might be something wrong with your device. i just tested mine (brand new, not even 1 day old yet) and i can easily take pictures as close as 2inches away from the subject and they turn out extremely clear and sharp.
this is using the camera app that comes pre-installed on the phone
see the attached picture, it was taken approximately 2 inches away
the curvature of the lens on the camera make it impossible to focus on all 4 corners of the SD card at that distance, but as you can see the top edge is almost perfectly clear
I just "Warrantied" my Fuze. The new (to me as it is a re-furb) unit doesn't take sharp pictures any closer than about 6 inches. That is a pain as I am a big WorldCard Mobile user but cannot get decent resolution of business card shots any longer.
I think - based on what I hear as the camera is focusing - that there is some mechanical issue within the unit itself.
Don't know if this is any help to anyone, but I've noticed (although it's kinda like common sense, so I'm not going to act like I'm intellectual ) that when I take a picture with my phone close up, in macro mode, it only turns out clear when I'm pretty much straight on with whatever it is I'm taking a picture of. This of course has to do with the fact that when the camera needs to focus on an object, it needs to basically pick a spot that is one distance away from the camera. As you can see with the sd card picture, it focused on the top, so everything out of the distance range cannot be seen very well. We do have to remember though that these are extremely small smartphone cameras, and not dedicated digital cameras
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see the attached picture, it was taken approximately 2 inches away
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Verified. Stock HTC Touch no mods. See the pic.
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I recently took a picture on the plane with Nexus One, unfortunately the picture looks horrible (seems like the sensor does not give a consistent brightness, causing the picture to have some strange artifact).
Anyone know how I can salvage this picture? And how to prevent this from happening again in the future?
Here's the pix
http://i.imgur.com/ZEgPc.jpg
It's the aerial view of the Mekong Delta btw.
Thanks!
I've just received the phone and I'm noticing a LOT of distortion, specially when holding the phone vertically and close to my face.
There's some kind of distortion fix going, but it looks like it's optimized for landscape front facing pictures, and when you hold the phone at the maximum stretch of your arm.
When I open Instagram front camera (or I switch from the back camera to front), my face looks good for about a second, but then there's some distortion thing going on, some distortion animation like flubber that makes my face look completely distorted. It's like a squishing
Here they talk about it: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/21077564?hl=en
This also happens for videocalls, so I'll always look bad in videocalls because in a videocall you hold the phone vertically and close to your face and this distortion fix makes you look so bad.
Is there any way to disable this distortion fix and enable it just for landscape pictures and from far?
I believe what's happening here is that the distortion fix is optimized for landscape full arm stretch pictures and not for videocalls where it's portrait and zoomed in
That's really interesting... I remember hearing about some real-time perspective fixing with the camera but I take maybe one selfie per decade, so I don't really pay attention to it. But now that I'm looking at it, if I significantly change the camera mode, I can see it making a pincushion adjustment around my eyes. It happens outside of the default camera app as well, so it must be a low level thing affecting it. I can only imagine what it might be doing to your face when not working correctly.
I would imagine that to do perspective fixing like this, it would need to use some sort of method to determine depth. Is this done by a separate sensor? Is it possible you have some sort of screen protector or other thing obscuring the sensor array on the top of the phone? I can't decide if the phone is using only depth data or if it possibly is using face detection and would only happen for certain people where that detection is bad. I also can't decide if this is more hardware or software controlled.
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That's really interesting... I remember hearing about some real-time perspective fixing with the camera but I take maybe one selfie per decade, so I don't really pay attention to it. But now that I'm looking at it, if I significantly change the camera mode, I can see it making a pincushion adjustment around my eyes. It happens outside of the default camera app as well, so it must be a low level thing affecting it. I can only imagine what it might be doing to your face when not working correctly.
I would imagine that to do perspective fixing like this, it would need to use some sort of method to determine depth. Is this done by a separate sensor? Is it possible you have some sort of screen protector or other thing obscuring the sensor array on the top of the phone? I can't decide if the phone is using only depth data or if it possibly is using face detection and would only happen for certain people where that detection is bad. I also can't decide if this is more hardware or software controlled.
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It's definitely a low level thing
I believe what's happening here is that the distortion fix is optimized for landscape full arm stretch pictures and not for videocalls where it's portrait and zoomed in
When I just physically rotate the phone, I can see it changing the applied adjustments shortly after it stops moving. I wonder if your phone is incapable of properly detecting the orientation in terms of the camera and never applies the portrait adjustments. A faulty accelerometer? Though that would suggest that it has multiple and the camera and OS level ones are different? I assume you don't have issues with the OS not seeing you switch orientation.
Given how rare this issue sounds, it might require replacing the phone if there are no methods of altering the behavior. But it doesn't sound like Google is acknowledging the issue either. Though it would be hard for them to ignore picture/video evidence.
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When I just physically rotate the phone, I can see it changing the applied adjustments shortly after it stops moving. I wonder if your phone is incapable of properly detecting the orientation in terms of the camera and never applies the portrait adjustments. A faulty accelerometer? Though that would suggest that it has multiple and the camera and OS level ones are different? I assume you don't have issues with the OS not seeing you switch orientation.
Given how rare this issue sounds, it might require replacing the phone if there are no methods of altering the behavior. But it doesn't sound like Google is acknowledging the issue either. Though it would be hard for them to ignore picture/video evidence.
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Mine is doing that too, but I believe whats' happening is that it's physically impossible to optimize it good for portrait just because of how is the lense built.
I don't think it's impossible... I feel like mine does it just fine. If I wasn't paying real good attention, I wouldn't know anything was actually happening. Or are you saying that when it is working properly, it would still be below your standards? Considering how minute the adjustment is for me, I can't imagine it bothering anyone. So my assumption is your specific phone is doing it wrong somehow.
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I don't think it's impossible... I feel like mine does it just fine. If I wasn't paying real good attention, I wouldn't know anything was actually happening. Or are you saying that when it is working properly, it would still be below your standards? Considering how minute the adjustment is for me, I can't imagine it bothering anyone. So my assumption is your specific phone is doing it wrong somehow.
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It could be maybe because I'm comparing it side by side to my OnePlus 7 Pro?
I'm checking now the pictures on my computer side by side, and when it's vertical selfie, then the distortion compensation doesn't work that much good as when it's horizontal (and arm full stretched, then it's perfect)
Okay, maybe it's a subtle thing that I don't have an eye for. Your post made it sound really pronounced, so maybe I was expecting more.
I tried comparing with my Note5, but I couldn't see much of a difference. Are you supposed to see the difference in viewfinder mode, or only in processed photos?
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Okay, maybe it's a subtle thing that I don't have an eye for. Your post made it sound really pronounced, so maybe I was expecting more.
I tried comparing with my Note5, but I couldn't see much of a difference. Are you supposed to see the difference in viewfinder mode, or only in processed photos?
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It's so pronounced if you want to take a closeup portrait selfie.
Less pronounced when taking a full stretch arm portrait selfie
And almost no effect when taking a full stretch arm landscape selfie
The issue here is on apps like instagram (it's zoomed in and always vertical) or videocalls.
Both in the viewfinder and final file