Can hide root from banking app after latest update - Magisk

Hi,
As written in the title, after the new update (18.1) magisk no longer hides the fact that my phone is rooted from my banking app.
Ive done everything I could think of in order to fix it but it still doesnt works...
Does anybody else is having the same issue, know how to fix it or know an another app that can hide root from apps?
Thank you in advance

try zygisk in settings

I used the app Island (from Oasis Feng) and cloned the banking app. It no longer detected Magisk.

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How to hide root from an app?

Hi, my P10 B151 is rooted using SuperRoot_noverity_nocrypt.zip + phh's superuser.
How do I hide the root from certain app such as my banking app? I need both root and the banking app. I am much relying on greenify to hibernate heavy apps like facebook and messenger.
Thank you!
By using magisk
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-magisk-hide-troubleshooting-tips-t3561828/post71154562#post71154562
However I have no idea if it works correctly on EMUI devices, but it should.
I see you already asked in this thread .
No, no other workaround. Either you unroot or hide it.

Magisk hide no longer hiding root from Santander banking app

Good morning all
I recently updated the Santander mobile banking app and it appears to have become 'smarter' in detecting root. When I attempt to open the app I am presented with the following: It looks like your device has been rooted. I am using Magisk version 5.8.3 (129), Magisk Manager v16.0 and the root is systemless.
What I have tried so far:
Cleared the apps data/cache and reinstalled the app
Removed the app, rebooted, reinstalled the app, added back to Magisk hide before opening again
Used Magisks safety net check which has come back as true, which means SafetyNet hasn't been tripped
Please help guys, I use the Santander app regularly
Many thanks
That's the case with my banking app sparkasse. It does not start at all anymore. I had to resort to another older version.
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This has already been discussed for a few days (mixed results):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/5903?query=santander
Still no luck
I have tried the recommendations in the thread mentioned but still no luck and my phone got stuck in a boot loop which I narrowly escaped! The recommendation was to install Magisk 16.7.2 which didn't change anything. I hope someone finds a fix/workaround.
Thanks
Check this out peeps, i might be onto smt: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77240186&postcount=93
Only thing to do for now is use the Santander website for now?
There is now a permanent fix
To all those people who are having this issue, there is now a permanent fix to get around this. Please see the following post/thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77331765&postcount=99
Mo

Payconiq By Bancontact APP and Magisk Hide

Hi everyone,
I'm just hitting my head against the wall with this applciation...
I'm running OP6 with evolution X 4.5.
This app refuses to let me uses it saying that "There's an error, Check if usb debugging is activated. Check if you're rooted or if a custom rom is installed"
I've tried magisk hide, also hidding some google services, usb debugging isn't activated,...
It's the only app I knoiw so far that can detect root on my phone.
Can anyone help me find a workaround please?
thanks.
Same here...
I am using MicroG without Safetynet support and I think that is the issue, unfortunately.
Payconiq by bancontact / rooted device
Hello
I have the same problem with OP6 rooted ... magisk hide activated but when run the payconiq Bancontact app " There is an error " not possible to run the app.
Anybody for a solution ?
veronesi.n said:
Hi everyone,
I'm just hitting my head against the wall with this applciation...
I'm running OP6 with evolution X 4.5.
This app refuses to let me uses it saying that "There's an error, Check if usb debugging is activated. Check if you're rooted or if a custom rom is installed"
I've tried magisk hide, also hidding some google services, usb debugging isn't activated,...
It's the only app I knoiw so far that can detect root on my phone.
Can anyone help me find a workaround please?
thanks.
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I used to use an old apk of the app but now it doesn't let me use it and forces me to upgrade to last version.
My wife's app is working well but she has a lg g7 thinq unrooted.
So if someone can help, it would be very much appreciated as every other app is working well, safety net is passed, and this app is my only way to pay contactless because my banking app doesn't have a payement option in it.
I'm using it without issues. I hide it and just turn off USB debugging when I'm using it.
Just to make sure, did you just enable Magisk Hide in the options and nothing else?
Or did you also - after enabling - go into the Magisk Hide option that now appeared in the menu and placed a checkmark after all programs for which you want to hide Magisk from, in this case Payconiq ?
Clear Payconiq cache and data, reboot and setup Payconiq.
I have the same problem.
Magic hide is enabled. USB debugging is disabled.
In the Magic hide menu, the Payconiq app has a checkmark. All my other banking apps work fine.
Phone = Samsung J7 (2016)
Does someone have a solution?
Thanks
What's your problem with this app Can't you run it Can someone show what message is showing For me, this application is not available in my country, so I downloaded it from outside. I have Magisk 21000 root and Magisk manager 8.0.2 (307) (11) and it works for me and nothing is screaming about root etc :highfive:
It is the "Payconiq by Bancontact" app.
It worked on my phone without root. Since my phone is rooted, it doesn't work any more.
My phone is rooted with Magisk 20.4 (20400) and Manager 8.0.2 (307)
When I use the app: I receive this message. I hope this can help...
Date: 12 Oct 2020 15:23:47 GMT+02:00
Device: samsung SM-J710F
App version: 5.5.3
OS version: 8.1.0
App token: /
Failure code: ERROR_SDK_INTEGRITY (81)
Hello,
Problem solved.
Thanks to Spartacus500 .
I ’ve seen there is an other version of Magisk. I didn’t even know there was an update. :silly:
I did the following thinks:
In Magisk Hide menu, uncheck Payconiq app.
Stopped Payconiq app and Cleared data.
In Magisk Hide, place checkmark at payconiq app.
Installed Magisk 21.0 (21000) Beta.
Reboot.
Run Payconiq app, and it works fine
Hope it stay this way :fingers-crossed:
Veke123 said:
Hello,
Problem solved.
Thanks to Spartacus500 .
I ’ve seen there is an other version of Magisk. I didn’t even know there was an update. :silly:
I did the following thinks:
In Magisk Hide menu, uncheck Payconiq app.
Stopped Payconiq app and Cleared data.
In Magisk Hide, place checkmark at payconiq app.
Installed Magisk 21.0 (21000) Beta.
Reboot.
Run Payconiq app, and it works fine
Hope it stay this way :fingers-crossed:
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Which version of the app did you use?
Is it 5.5.3?
Can you share the apk?
I tried 5.8.3, 5.5.3 and 5.3.3 but there are all stuck at the start.
I am passing all checks on rootbeerfresh (root checker).
flotheking said:
Which version of the app did you use?
Is it 5.5.3?
Can you share the apk?
I tried 5.8.3, 5.5.3 and 5.3.3 but there are all stuck at the start.
I am passing all checks on rootbeerfresh (root checker).
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I use the "Payconiq By Bancontact" app. I don't know which version it was that worked before, but after an update I can not run it anymore on a rooted phone.
I will send you the apk of the "Payconiq by Bancontact" app. Hope you can find a solution.
I tried the other app (Payconiq) version 4.3.5.3 (latest) and it seems to be working.
flotheking said:
I tried the other app (Payconiq) version 4.3.5.3 (latest) and it seems to be working.
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sorry for bumping an old thread but what are you using now?
In my case I'm still using the old Payconiq and I don't know what I'm going to do when it gets finally phased out.
Well, I'll just pay in another way I guess.
seeschloss said:
In my case I'm still using the old Payconiq and I don't know what I'm going to do when it gets finally phased out.
Well, I'll just pay in another way I guess.
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thx for responding, what version are you using?
5.14.1 Payconiq app works for me Magisk hide root
Spartacus500 said:
5.14.1 Payconiq app works for me Magisk hide root
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sadly not working for me, when i hide app in magisk, launching gets aborted without error message
got it working again
latest magisk, latest riru, lsposed, gravitybox all installed without issues to payconiq
payconiq app hidden in magisk, magisk manager isn't hidden
the thing that got it working again was disabling magisk module G-visual mod, same for magisk module fullscreen immersive gestures. Apparently payconiq app doesn't like keyboard spacing to be changed ????
i'm quite happy that i found it, but if anyone could explain i'd very gratefull
Hello,
Can I also ask a question, please? How can payconiq detect that someone is using a custom-rom? I also get a message that I am using a Custom-rom and that it is not possible to install. However, I have not installed MAGISK and my phone is not rooted.
Thanks
Andi
Bergfex2 said:
Hello,
Can I also ask a question, please? How can payconiq detect that someone is using a custom-rom? I also get a message that I am using a Custom-rom and that it is not possible to install. However, I have not installed MAGISK and my phone is not rooted.
Thanks
Andi
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Could be detecting your unlocked bootloader, various prop values, etc. For a list of props that are common detectors, and that MagiskHide changes (which of course is removed in the next stable release) you can check here:
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/MagiskHidePropsConf#setreset-magiskhide-sensitive-props

Looking for some tips - Unable to get these two Belgium apps working with Magisk

Hi,
I live in Belgium and it's been years that I'm using Cyanogen, then now Lineage. Recently, I made a bargain and bought 2 Google Pixel 4a, one for me and one for my girlfriend.
I installed Lineage on both of them, and I have to say that it's the best Android experience I had so far. We both love our device. It's small, powerful enough, camera pictures are amazing.
However, we are unable to get any banking apps working. We would like to use 2 applications:
1. Payconiq: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.inthepocket.bcmc.bancontact&hl=en&gl=US
2. Keytrade: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.keytradebank.phone&hl=en&gl=US
I succeeded to get Payconiq working on my phone, using Magisk 23 and Magisk hide. So far so good.
Since this morning, Magisk has been updated to 24.1, Magisk hide is gone and I have to use Magisk Zygisk... And Payconiq doesn't work anymore.
Regarding the second app "Keytrade", it never worked, with any version of Magisk. I don't know what they did in their app, but it seems that they were able to find a way to detect if a phone has a custom rom pretty nicely.
Maybe this is something that the author of Magisk should be aware of? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Do you have any piece of advice for me? I don't want to be forced to re-install the official rom, I still want to use Lineage and have those apps working.
Thanks!
Edit 1: After installing Universal Safetynet fix (https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix), payconiq works, but not Keytrade.
Easiest way is to use a good browser like Brave to login to the bank's website bypassing the app.
I consider banking apps to be trash apps and never load them. The more needless apps you load, the greater the security risk.
Apps I sometimes use but don't like their behavior I package block when not in use and/or firewall block.
Rather than fight it, bypass it...
blackhawk said:
I consider banking apps to be trash apps and never load them.
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Not helpful, because thanks to EU rules many banks simply and mandatorily require their app as the second authentication factor - especially when you don't want to use their "real" banking app and use the oldfashioned web interface instead.
Ramihyn said:
Not helpful, because thanks to EU rules many banks simply and mandatorily require their app as the second authentication factor - especially when you don't want to use their "real" banking app and use the oldfashioned web interface instead.
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That sucks... so much for easy fixes
The Transporter said:
Hi,
I live in Belgium and it's been years that I'm using Cyanogen, then now Lineage. Recently, I made a bargain and bought 2 Google Pixel 4a, one for me and one for my girlfriend.
I installed Lineage on both of them, and I have to say that it's the best Android experience I had so far. We both love our device. It's small, powerful enough, camera pictures are amazing.
However, we are unable to get any banking apps working. We would like to use 2 applications:
1. Payconiq: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.inthepocket.bcmc.bancontact&hl=en&gl=US
2. Keytrade: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.keytradebank.phone&hl=en&gl=US
I succeeded to get Payconiq working on my phone, using Magisk 23 and Magisk hide. So far so good.
Since this morning, Magisk has been updated to 24.1, Magisk hide is gone and I have to use Magisk Zygisk... And Payconiq doesn't work anymore.
Regarding the second app "Keytrade", it never worked, with any version of Magisk. I don't know what they did in their app, but it seems that they were able to find a way to detect if a phone has a custom rom pretty nicely.
Maybe this is something that the author of Magisk should be aware of? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Do you have any piece of advice for me? I don't want to be forced to re-install the official rom, I still want to use Lineage and have those apps working.
Thanks!
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How to pass SafetyNet on Android after rooting or installing a custom ROM
It is possible to pass SafetyNet, even after extensive modding like rooting or installing a custom ROM. Check out how to do that here!
www.xda-developers.com
Austinredstoner said:
How to pass SafetyNet on Android after rooting or installing a custom ROM
It is possible to pass SafetyNet, even after extensive modding like rooting or installing a custom ROM. Check out how to do that here!
www.xda-developers.com
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Safetyfix passes on the phone... I don't know how the Keytrade app is doing to detect root on the phone.
blackhawk said:
That sucks... so much for easy fixes
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So true Unfortunately, that seems the way to go in Europe considering banking. If you want it online instead of running to the bank clerk all the time, you're stuck with at least some authentication app. Things get only worse when there's no classical webinterface at all and you're bound to use a complete banking app instead (there are some neobanks doing so already).
The Transporter said:
I don't know how the Keytrade app is doing to detect root on the phone.
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They simply recognize Magisk app in some way. I've read in some other threads here that a probable solution is to use the app called "Ice Box" to hide the Magisk app by freezing it. Might be worth a try for you.
Another way if you have zygisk enabled. Go to config denylist select play store play services gms you need to hit menu system apps first. And you apps you wish to hide. Then search magisk alpha telegram channel. Download shamiko module. Reboot your phone with enforce denylist selected. After reboot turn the enforce denylist toggle off and flash the shamiko module and reboot. If your app still does not work and you are using lsposed zygisk. You can download hide my applist Xposed module and further hide your app.
Pm me if you want to links to all as they are not supposed to be posted on xda
Have you managed to fix this?
I'm in the same boat.
My bank app 'keytrade bank' keeps detecting that I've rooted my device. This is what I tried
- I installed Magisk
- Installed module Shamiko
- Installed SafetyNet Fix v2.2.1
- Enabled Zygisk
- Configured DenyList
- Hide Magisk app
Awaces said:
Have you managed to fix this?
I'm in the same boat.
My bank app 'keytrade bank' keeps detecting that I've rooted my device. This is what I tried
- I installed Magisk
- Installed module Shamiko
- Installed SafetyNet Fix v2.2.1
- Enabled Zygisk
- Configured DenyList
- Hide Magisk app
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You have to disable Enforce DenyList in Magisk.

Question How do I hide root from certain apps?

Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
YayJohn said:
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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After force deny list did you've deleted caches of google play and google services and reboot? check also google play store inside settings if certified, if certified then it should work for your app too.
Maybe try installing Universal SafetyNet Fix?
GitHub - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix: Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - GitHub - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix: Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk
github.com
And some applications can be extra finicky. LIke for me, Google Pay always takes its time to get persuaded about not being rooted. Also there might be other components either of this app or for system apps that might need hiding. I would generally try following guides for making banking apps work.
YayJohn said:
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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I'm not familiar with that app, but I know that some apps also check for the presence of the Magisk Manager app. If you've already tried Zygisk and the deny list, then another thing to do would be to hide the Magisk app. It the Magisk Manager, go to Settings > Hide Magisk app.
What worked for me is installing Insular ( from Fdroid) and then clone the App that complains about root to the work environment.
I just downloaded musescore and installed it. It hasn't detected root on my phone. I use Shamiko to hide root. Get Fox's magisk module manager from fdroid. Then use it to install Shamiko. Make sure you turn off Enforce Denylist in magisk so Shamiko can enforce the deny list. Hide the magisk app using the feature in magisk. It works for me.
YayJohn said:
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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Oh yes I can't seem to open musescore too even with safety net pass. But it is because I am using MicroG. I tried it on my other phone with Play Services and it works fine with hidden root (shamiko and magisk disabled) and safety net pass.
BigChungus321 said:
Oh yes I can't seem to open musescore too even with safety net pass. But it is because I am using MicroG. I tried it on my other phone with Play Services and it works fine with hidden root (shamiko and magisk disabled) and safety net pass.
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I use MicroG as well. I can load the app and use it, I just can't subscribe because it requires GSF to make payment.
IrishJames said:
I use MicroG as well. I can load the app and use it, I just can't subscribe because it requires GSF to make payment.
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You can open it right? But can you select and open a random piano piece or something like that. For me, the piece loads up then detects something (root, safety net idk) then just tells me I can't for root reasons. I tried using shamiko too and all the root hiding methods I know and I still couldn't open a piece. It does load the main menu for me too on MicroG+patch playstore but can't open the contents.
It's been roughly a month. Has anyone found a fix for this issue yet? There was discussion about the issue here where a dev 'fixed' the app for someone with a rooted phone. However I cant tell what the dev did because all his messages are deleted, for all I know he could of shared an apk or something, guess I'll never know. I've decided to try to get in contact with one of the people whose issue managed to get fixed, although I don't know if he'll ever respond. Apparently in the forum, he told the dev that he assumed the block was intentional. Maybe this could hint us towards a fix because maybe the block doesn't target rooted users?
BigChungus321 said:
I tried using shamiko too and all the root hiding methods I know and I still couldn't open a piece.
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If thats the case then perhaps the app isin't checking for root? Theres no way musescore has more sophisticated anti-root software than some banking apps out there. Perhaps it's detecting the os that the user uses instead? I can confirm this because my samsung s7 edge with the same lineage os version as my Xiaomi doesn't want to play any scores either. This issue also happens to people who have no custom rom or even no root, it has to do with the os that you use rather than being an issue with root.
So what, did I type 2 paragraphs on a one month old forum just to rant? No. I will find the issue (well, I already found the reason in the text above), and I will try to fix it, not by making any workarounds such as cloning the app but getting the app to reliably work on a rooted / custom rom phone.
EDIT: Maybe using something to spoof the OS to make apps think it's a different OS?
POTENTIAL FIX: So in new versions of magisk, the developer decided to remove magiskhide. Turns out that having magiskhide turned on makes musescore actually be able to function. I tested this on my samsung s7 edge (didn't want to brick my Xiaomi phone by accident just yet and it worked. However I labelled this 'POTENTIAL' as downgrading magisk isin't really a plausible fix and could still be considered a workaround.
RoboNinjaR said:
It's been roughly a month. Has anyone found a fix for this issue yet? There was discussion about the issue here where a dev 'fixed' the app for someone with a rooted phone. However I cant tell what the dev did because all his messages are deleted, for all I know he could of shared an apk or something, guess I'll never know. I've decided to try to get in contact with one of the people whose issue managed to get fixed, although I don't know if he'll ever respond. Apparently in the forum, he told the dev that he assumed the block was intentional. Maybe this could hint us towards a fix because maybe the block doesn't target rooted users?
If thats the case then perhaps the app isin't checking for root? Theres no way musescore has more sophisticated anti-root software than some banking apps out there. Perhaps it's detecting the os that the user uses instead? I can confirm this because my samsung s7 edge with the same lineage os version as my Xiaomi doesn't want to play any scores either. This issue also happens to people who have no custom rom or even no root, it has to do with the os that you use rather than being an issue with root.
So what, did I type 2 paragraphs on a one month old forum just to rant? No. I will find the issue (well, I already found the reason in the text above), and I will try to fix it, not by making any workarounds such as cloning the app but getting the app to reliably work on a rooted / custom rom phone.
EDIT: Maybe using something to spoof the OS to make apps think it's a different OS?
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Its not opening for me because I'm using MicroG. Like banking apps, MuseScore checks for specific Play Services version. Since microg uses idk android4.4 play services, it will fail to load any Banking Apps or apps of the same kind that uses that check regardless of root 'cause that version's too old and a potential for security. For the OS check, I guess it does check it too. I tried on two emulators and both failed to load a piece as well (might be because of safetynet cuz emulators can't pass it). There are xposed and magisk modules that can spoof OS and even prevent the app from seeing user installed apps. I haven't tried that method because I switched ROM now and got MuseScore working fine even without hiding root.
BigChungus321 said:
Its not opening for me because I'm using MicroG. Like banking apps, MuseScore checks for specific Play Services version. Since microg uses idk android4.4 play services, it will fail to load any Banking Apps or apps of the same kind that uses that check regardless of root 'cause that version's too old and a potential for security. For the OS check, I guess it does check it too. I tried on two emulators and both failed to load a piece as well (might be because of safetynet cuz emulators can't pass it). There are xposed and magisk modules that can spoof OS and even prevent the app from seeing user installed apps. I haven't tried that method because I switched ROM now and got MuseScore working fine even without hiding root.
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Weird. I have microG and I managed to get musescore working without switching roms. All I did was use safety net fix, enabled zygisk and added it to the deny list. Tried it before and it didn't work, probably because I didn't install safetynet fix. Who knows, maybe it's related to what type of GApps you install. I guess this issue is fixed for now.

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